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	<title>Comments on: H.O.F. Watch &#8211; Stephon Marbury</title>
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		<title>By: jj</title>
		<link>http://dimemag.com/2007/10/hof-watch-stephon-marbury/comment-page-2/#comment-142869</link>
		<dc:creator>jj</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 12 May 2009 21:39:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>in end of discussion</description>
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		<title>By: nycballa</title>
		<link>http://dimemag.com/2007/10/hof-watch-stephon-marbury/comment-page-2/#comment-37338</link>
		<dc:creator>nycballa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 May 2008 12:51:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>yo give him next season and even the next, if he puts up at least 17 and 7,and they make the playoffs and get past 1st round both times, he should get IN. steph your a beast, but if u put up the shit u did the last 2 years or if your dad or your fish dies again, then i&#039;m sorry ma ur out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>yo give him next season and even the next, if he puts up at least 17 and 7,and they make the playoffs and get past 1st round both times, he should get IN. steph your a beast, but if u put up the shit u did the last 2 years or if your dad or your fish dies again, then i&#8217;m sorry ma ur out.</p>
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		<title>By: PHILANTHROPIST</title>
		<link>http://dimemag.com/2007/10/hof-watch-stephon-marbury/comment-page-2/#comment-16445</link>
		<dc:creator>PHILANTHROPIST</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Dec 2007 20:33:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ARE U GUYS, STEPH WAS WITH A PHOENIX SUNS TEAM THAT HAD AMARE STOUDIMIRE WHO WAS THE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR IN THAT YEAR, THE SAME YEAR STEPH AND SHAWN MARION MADE IT TO THE ALL STAR ALONG WITH AMARE. AND WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT STEPH BEING A LOSER. WHAT ABOUT AI, HE NEVER MADE HIS TEAM BETTER, THE ONLY REASON WHY PHILLY MADE IT TO THE FINALS WAS BECAUSE AI HAD MUTUMBO, RAJA BELL, ERIC SNOW AND OTHER GUYS TO HELP AI. AND BY THE WAY IF U GUYS SAY STEPH HAS NEVER GONE PASS THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS ARE JUST HATING ON STEPH. T-MAC, GILBERT, CARMELO AND OTHERS HAVE NEVER MADE IT PASS THE FIRST ROUND SO WHAT THE HELL ARE U GUYS TRYING TO POINT OUT. PEOPLE JUST HATE STEPH BECOS HE IS NOT AN ASS KISSER, HE JUST BE HIMSELF. PEOPLE DON&#039;T REALIZE THAT STEPH IS STEPH HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE WHAT HE IS NOT WHEN HE IS IN FRONT OF CAMERA OR WHEN HE IS TALKING WITH THE MEDIA.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ARE U GUYS, STEPH WAS WITH A PHOENIX SUNS TEAM THAT HAD AMARE STOUDIMIRE WHO WAS THE ROOKIE OF THE YEAR IN THAT YEAR, THE SAME YEAR STEPH AND SHAWN MARION MADE IT TO THE ALL STAR ALONG WITH AMARE. AND WE ARE HERE TALKING ABOUT STEPH BEING A LOSER. WHAT ABOUT AI, HE NEVER MADE HIS TEAM BETTER, THE ONLY REASON WHY PHILLY MADE IT TO THE FINALS WAS BECAUSE AI HAD MUTUMBO, RAJA BELL, ERIC SNOW AND OTHER GUYS TO HELP AI. AND BY THE WAY IF U GUYS SAY STEPH HAS NEVER GONE PASS THE FIRST ROUND OF THE PLAYOFFS ARE JUST HATING ON STEPH. T-MAC, GILBERT, CARMELO AND OTHERS HAVE NEVER MADE IT PASS THE FIRST ROUND SO WHAT THE HELL ARE U GUYS TRYING TO POINT OUT. PEOPLE JUST HATE STEPH BECOS HE IS NOT AN ASS KISSER, HE JUST BE HIMSELF. PEOPLE DON&#8217;T REALIZE THAT STEPH IS STEPH HE DOES NOT HAVE TO BE WHAT HE IS NOT WHEN HE IS IN FRONT OF CAMERA OR WHEN HE IS TALKING WITH THE MEDIA.</p>
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		<title>By: dagwaller</title>
		<link>http://dimemag.com/2007/10/hof-watch-stephon-marbury/comment-page-2/#comment-11718</link>
		<dc:creator>dagwaller</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Nov 2007 21:34:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Eddo, I really like what you just said.  Championship or contending for one.  I would add guys that were on All-NBA teams and/or made MVP.

Allstars are obviously just the most popular guys.  An indication at best.

DPOY is just as one dimensional as scoring leaders.  Ditto all-Defensive teams.

Guys that put up big stats are the other side of the defensive players.  20 and 8 is impressive, until you realize that he&#039;s played for some terrible teams - when you&#039;re the number one/only option, you&#039;re going to put up a huge amount of points.  That&#039;s how the scoring leader has been for a while.  Kobe, T-Mac in Orlando, Iverson in Philly.  Assists are a little harder, especially when you&#039;re on bad teams, but the elite company his stats put him in is somewhat misleading...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Eddo, I really like what you just said.  Championship or contending for one.  I would add guys that were on All-NBA teams and/or made MVP.</p>
<p>Allstars are obviously just the most popular guys.  An indication at best.</p>
<p>DPOY is just as one dimensional as scoring leaders.  Ditto all-Defensive teams.</p>
<p>Guys that put up big stats are the other side of the defensive players.  20 and 8 is impressive, until you realize that he&#8217;s played for some terrible teams &#8211; when you&#8217;re the number one/only option, you&#8217;re going to put up a huge amount of points.  That&#8217;s how the scoring leader has been for a while.  Kobe, T-Mac in Orlando, Iverson in Philly.  Assists are a little harder, especially when you&#8217;re on bad teams, but the elite company his stats put him in is somewhat misleading&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Greg</title>
		<link>http://dimemag.com/2007/10/hof-watch-stephon-marbury/comment-page-2/#comment-11536</link>
		<dc:creator>Greg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 13 Nov 2007 23:13:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Stats or no stats, Steph has literally zero chance at the HOF. Zero. He won&#039;t get a single vote from those that make those decisions. For all his natural talent, his reputation is that of an immature, selfish loser who just doesn&#039;t get it. And as he approaches 30, he&#039;s still done absolultely nothing to change that rep. It&#039;s only getting worse.  

It&#039;s harsh, it&#039;s sad, but it&#039;s reality.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Stats or no stats, Steph has literally zero chance at the HOF. Zero. He won&#8217;t get a single vote from those that make those decisions. For all his natural talent, his reputation is that of an immature, selfish loser who just doesn&#8217;t get it. And as he approaches 30, he&#8217;s still done absolultely nothing to change that rep. It&#8217;s only getting worse.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s harsh, it&#8217;s sad, but it&#8217;s reality.</p>
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		<title>By: anthony</title>
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		<dc:creator>anthony</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 06 Nov 2007 17:16:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>no, he has only stats to offer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>no, he has only stats to offer.</p>
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		<title>By: billy</title>
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		<dc:creator>billy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 Nov 2007 04:41:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>how can SM can on this list, wasting time</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>how can SM can on this list, wasting time</p>
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		<title>By: Eddo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eddo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 28 Oct 2007 02:57:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Important thing is not winning a championship but actually challenged for one. Or at the very least, it is clear he improved the team. To be considered Great, you have to get a team to win, or be in contention. Thats the goal of basketball. A player shouldn&#039;t be HOF if they are in a losing team consistently, even if they score 40ppg. Greatness is watched, not measured. 

Problem with Marbury, his team isn&#039;t meeting Detroit or any of the Eastern Conference powerhouse nor the Western Conference powerhouse (except Spurs) in many occasions. 4 out of 11 playoffs? Considering he is the main player for most of those seasons, that is pretty terrible for HOF quality player as some here claims.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Important thing is not winning a championship but actually challenged for one. Or at the very least, it is clear he improved the team. To be considered Great, you have to get a team to win, or be in contention. Thats the goal of basketball. A player shouldn&#8217;t be HOF if they are in a losing team consistently, even if they score 40ppg. Greatness is watched, not measured. </p>
<p>Problem with Marbury, his team isn&#8217;t meeting Detroit or any of the Eastern Conference powerhouse nor the Western Conference powerhouse (except Spurs) in many occasions. 4 out of 11 playoffs? Considering he is the main player for most of those seasons, that is pretty terrible for HOF quality player as some here claims.</p>
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		<title>By: Air-run</title>
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		<dc:creator>Air-run</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Oct 2007 22:52:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m from Minny, been a wolves fan since their expansion debut.  I, along with MANY to all wolves fans, was disgusted by his selfish, stupid, short sighted, me first request to leave MN.  I mean, he and KG made the playoffs when they were both way before their primes.  They had so much potiential together!!!!  But steph took that all that promise and flushed it down the toilet! That was 98&#039;, fast forward to today...in retrospect, I, along with MANY to all wolves fans, couldn&#039;t be happier he chose to leave when he did, his no-class, virus-like attitude didn&#039;t get a chance to mess up our team.  (We just left that to Mchale. :)Steph does deserve credit with his shoes. I applaud him for taking the lead on fighting the battle of over-priced shoes. On second thought, how fitting is it starburys are as cheaply priced as they are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m from Minny, been a wolves fan since their expansion debut.  I, along with MANY to all wolves fans, was disgusted by his selfish, stupid, short sighted, me first request to leave MN.  I mean, he and KG made the playoffs when they were both way before their primes.  They had so much potiential together!!!!  But steph took that all that promise and flushed it down the toilet! That was 98&#8242;, fast forward to today&#8230;in retrospect, I, along with MANY to all wolves fans, couldn&#8217;t be happier he chose to leave when he did, his no-class, virus-like attitude didn&#8217;t get a chance to mess up our team.  (We just left that to Mchale. <img src='http://dimemag.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> Steph does deserve credit with his shoes. I applaud him for taking the lead on fighting the battle of over-priced shoes. On second thought, how fitting is it starburys are as cheaply priced as they are.</p>
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		<title>By: Duaneo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Duaneo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Oct 2007 22:19:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why should you have to win a championship to get into the HoF? That is ridiculous. I read in another comment somewhere than in the past 30 years, only 10 teams have won the championship.  So the great players of the 80s and early 90s, who ran into Magic, Bird, Zeke, Hakeem and Jordan should be left out? Right.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why should you have to win a championship to get into the HoF? That is ridiculous. I read in another comment somewhere than in the past 30 years, only 10 teams have won the championship.  So the great players of the 80s and early 90s, who ran into Magic, Bird, Zeke, Hakeem and Jordan should be left out? Right.</p>
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