The H.O.F. Watch – Paul Pierce
Photo. Gary LandEvery day for the next few weeks we’re gonna take one active NBA star with at least arguable Hall of Fame credentials and break down his chances of getting into the Springfield, Mass., hoops mecca. We’re looking at not just past accomplishments, but also how a player’s career realistically projects for the future. For a full explanation of the process, click here. Today’s candidate: Paul Pierce.
PAUL PIERCE (10th year, Celtics)
23.6 pts, 6.5 rebs, 3.9 asts, 1.7 stls per game
Why: The best Celtic to come along since Larry Bird, Pierce kept the League’s most storied franchise relevant way before KG and Ray Allen came along, until the franchise’s recent struggles. Boston went 19-31 in Pierce’s rookie season (the lockout year), but three years later “The Truth” had them in the Eastern Conference Finals in his first postseason foray. He’s stepped it up in the playoffs, too, averaging 24.6 points and 8.6 boards in ‘02, then putting up 27 points, 9 boards, 6 dimes and 2 steals per the following postseason. Not to mention hitting numerous clutch shots. The five-time All-Star has been one of the League’s most consistent and explosive scorers over the last decade, regularly hanging 30-40 points on his best competition, be it individually in matchups against guys like Kobe and LeBron, or against the League’s powerhouse teams. Last season he dropped 30-plus in games against the Spurs, Mavs, Suns and Jazz. And he’s far from done. Even though Pierce turns 30 this week and played only 47 games last year, he’s been pretty durable throughout his career. Winning a championship with Garnett and Allen is a very real possibility.
Why not: Playing for the Celtics brings certain expectations. Is Pierce better than some of the C’s already in the Hall? Definitely. Barring injury, this season he should pass Sam Jones, Bob Cousy and Kevin McHale to become the franchise’s fourth all-time leading scorer; John Havlicek, Bird and Robert Parish are the top three. (Side note: Of the Celtics’ all-time top 12 career scorers, only Pierce and JoJo White aren’t in the Hall of Fame.) But Pierce needs to win a ring — or at least get to the Finals — to get his name next to the other great Boston players in Springfield.
Our call: IN
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October 9th, 2007 at 12:12 pm
Lucky Lester says:
YOU’re telling me if P-Double finished his career tomorrow, he would find himself in the Hall of Fame? I don’t buy it. I think he’s a great player, and he’s gotten so much better over the last few years, and he has a better shot at it then O’Neal right now, but I still don’t buy it.
October 9th, 2007 at 12:31 pm
Celts Fan says:
You’re right Lester. I’ve been a season ticket holder his entire career, but he has to keep doing this for 3-5 more years at his current pace (or some reasonable drop-off due to his new teammates) AND, get to the Finals at least once before. If he wins a ring though, I think he’s in.
October 9th, 2007 at 12:42 pm
flyp says:
For Lester: “…also how a player’s career realistically projects for the future.” So tomorrow? Probably not. But by the end of his career, yes.
Since Pierce plays for the Celtics, with their storied/successful history, is it justified to DEMAND a finals win or appearance for him to make the grade as a HOFer? It’s not his fault that he’s had to carry the team for so many years.
October 9th, 2007 at 12:46 pm
fiyaman says:
Im a big P-Double fan but I think he needs to do more to be considered for HOF.. I think T-Mac has had a better career even though Pierce been past the 1st round because T-Mac has shown he can be a leader and make player around him better. Pierce has had better teams and done less. P-Double is a great Fantasy player(held my team up til he got hurt last yr) but he still needs to make himself stand-out in th L. There are a lot of good players at his position and the only think that really makes him stand out is his multi-stat ability.
October 9th, 2007 at 12:47 pm
Eric says:
I believe it says “the players past accomplishments and how the players career realistically projects for the future.” Pierce has become one of the best ALL AROUND players in the league that no one talks about enough. Now that he has the team to make a run all will take notice. He has seperated himself from the McGrady and Carter category, as Kobe and LeBron are the only wings you could have ranked ahead of him. But with 4 minutes to go in a decisive game who’d you rather have taking your big shots? Not LeBron, not yet. The guy has been a very clutch player for a while now and is the best wing rebounder in the league (I have Marion in my 4 man category) The fact that he plays for the greatest franchise in the history of the league really drives him as loves being a Celtic and as we will all soon see he and his new team have one priority, WIN.
I can’t wait for the season…
October 9th, 2007 at 12:50 pm
bliz289 says:
He’s a lock for the Hall. 100%. When he leaves the C’s, he’ll be #2 in career points behind only Havlicek – ahead of Larry Bird! If his career ended today, it’d be a close call. But give him another 4-5 years in green and it’s a sure thing.
October 9th, 2007 at 12:59 pm
fiyaman says:
I think another couple yrs he’ll get in but not now. Everyone keeps talking about him being on the Celtics. Well the fact that he’s on 1 of the most storied franchises and in big market but still gets little attention compared to the other big stars should say something about his career. I mean Eddy Curry gets more pub than P-Dub(granted Curry is in NY market but Boston is not that far off). That should say a lot.
Fan vote : IN
BBall un-biased vote: Out(pending couple more yrs)
October 9th, 2007 at 1:18 pm
Terrell James says:
Winning does count but, Pierces’ numbers can’t be looked over. That said, with KG and Shuttlesworth on his squad, his numbers will dip, but a finals appearance is in reach now. Add a finals appearance–and maybe even a ring–and Pdouble is a lock for the Hall.
October 9th, 2007 at 1:38 pm
fiyaman says:
agreed
October 9th, 2007 at 1:44 pm
The Jed says:
This is a tough one for me. I’m a Celtics fan through and through and statistically, Pierce’s numbers are going to be there. He just doesn’t really feel like Hall of Fame to me at this point in his career. I really think he needs to do something in these next two or three years to really make his statement in the League.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:34 pm
2 Easy says:
Now personally I dont like P2, Cant really explain y its just one of those things where u dont like a player however that doesnt stop me from respectin his game. I agree that he gets little to no love despite playing for the leagues best franchise and thats mainly due to bein outshined by Kobe and Bron all the time. Its also as a result of rarely bein on the national stage. The highlight of his career had to be that comeback against the Nets however many didnt see or hear about it for some reason and it got looked over cause the Nets eventually won that series. Now the problem here is many look at his career numbers and see all-star callibre but not HOF callibre. Thats still yet to be determined because if he has a couple more solid years he can still get in. THat argument about him carryin the Celts hurtin him is terrible cause if he had help then he wouldnt be so high on their all time scoring list and now wit KG and Jesus, if and when he adds a title to his resume its just gonna be academic for all 3 of them. I like this HOF watch, keep these tough ones comin
My call, IN only if he can maintain his high level of play
October 9th, 2007 at 2:46 pm
Mike says:
If the C’s can contend for the chip the next few years and make deep playoff runs, then Pierce may be able to sneak into the Hall.
But as of right now, no.
And that comment about Pierce separating himself from Vince and T-mac, that’s just idiotic.
Vince was the most significant player in the L for good 2-3 years when he was with the Raptors. And McGrady’s game is the one that most young kids coming up try to emulate.
Pierce may or may not have better numbers, but when it comes to straight impacting the game, he’s got nothing on Carter or T-mac.
October 9th, 2007 at 2:56 pm
NjAggie says:
who cares about whether or not he wins a ring or goes to the finals? this is not the pro football hall of fame and he’s not a quarterback. the basketball hall of fame Is comprised of the best individual players. a lot of yankee players made the hall cuz they played alongside dimaggio and those guys. if they woulda played anywhere but new york they woulda never smelled the hall… with that said forget about his teams accomplishments and where he has gotten/ will get them. as an individual player I think pierce is good. but I personally am not a fan of his game. numbers wise he’s one of the best of his generation though. because the basketball hall of hame is not a NBA exclusive club I think hell get in. I do think some of his numbers are inflated because he has played on some horrible teams. he can put up 30 on other squads because he chucks more than your average chucker… on another note when is dennis rodman eligible to be inducted? and does byron scott have a chance to get in as a player? dimemag u should expand this topic to players on the cusp who playd in yesteryear
October 9th, 2007 at 3:04 pm
Lucky Lester says:
stats – to the hall?
I don’t know.
I like Peirce, but I just think he needs to do more. Think, if it took Dominique Wilkins as long as it did to get in, how can you give PP the “IN” vote?
Thanks for the heads up on the “foreseeable future” thing, I guess I passed by that without acknowledgment.
October 9th, 2007 at 3:07 pm
Lucky Lester says:
Also, I think in hoops winning should play a bigger role. Unlike the NFL, 1 guy does make that big of a difference. There are 5 starters in hoops and 22 in the NFL. I think its dumb to leave a guy out because he didn’t win it, but also, I think NBA players have more singular effect on their wins and losses than NFL players. Same goes for baseball. You can pitch around Bonds, Howard, or A-Rod – but you can’t pitch around Michael Jordan, right. He comes down with the ball, you trap him, if a dude can hit a jumper, you’re still okay.
I don’t know, just thinking about how wins and losses effect the hall – its dumb. Also way more dumb, is that storied franchise bull shit – so you’re saying if a guy is loyal to the team that drafts him and he stays in Toronto – his chances are lessened? That’s stupid, right?
October 9th, 2007 at 5:04 pm
illfil27 says:
Well, if he can win a championship now, I’d say he’s in. But gnerally I think it’s hard to judge on most players that are still active. In most cases it’d be a split decision.
October 9th, 2007 at 5:33 pm
Lucky Lester says:
Some guys still in the league: Shaq – in. KG – in. Kobe – in. AI – in. Duncan – in. Nash – in. Kidd – in.
Can you tell me that P-Double has a better shot than any of those guys? I know there’s a couple donkeys on these boards that will tell me Nash doesn’t belong, but his passing angles and percentage numbers offensively are dirty – plus, his teams have been very good over the years.
Not to jump ahead, but what do you guys think about these guys?
Rodman. Kemp. Larry Johnson. Alonzo Morning. Mutumbo. Tim Hardaway. Reggie Miller. David Robinson.
And who in the Hall, right now, shouldn’t be there?
October 9th, 2007 at 10:04 pm
Triple Threat says:
Right now, it would be tough to say if Paul Pierce would make the HOF. If you ask me though, I think he should be ahead of t-mac, VC, and JO. He carried the gang green to some awesome playoff runs. He is one of the best clutch players in the game today, no can argue that. However, the next year or two will decide if he does make it in the HOF. If P-dub can’t get in the HOF, he should get his number retired right next to Larry Legend, which is an accomplishment in its self.
October 9th, 2007 at 10:22 pm
Eric says:
Mike: Please explain how my opinion on Pierce seperating himself from McGrady and Carter is idiotic. Carter and McGrady are both extremely talented players. They are also two players who after things on their teams went bad turned into everything you don’t want in a pro athlete, a quiter. They both stopped playing hard and demanded publicly to be traded. Paul Pierce has never stopped playing hard despite his ups and downs in Boston. Carter is playing with one of the best point guards we have ever seen which is why he is still putting up numbers but he does not hold a candle to Pierce. McGrady has never gotten is team out of the first round, is constantly hurt, and does not play with the strength and will that Pierce does every night. Again, McGrady and Carter super talented, but there is an ingredient that Pierce has that those two seem to lack. Pierce gets to the line, rebounds like he is 3 inches taller and makes as many clutch shots as anyone in the league. As far as the HOF goes, like many have stated he needs 3 more really good years and some serious playoff runs to be a lock…
October 9th, 2007 at 11:40 pm
Triple Threat says:
Reggie Miller Yes, best three point shooter of all time. David Robinson Yes. the rest of them can take a ride in the back seat. Sorry, but these two players, carried their teams further than other players who are more talented than them. Yeah, TD helped David Robinson get a finals championship and the Dream showed him who was the real MVP in the mid-90s. But D-Rob stepped up big time after MJ left, he was the killing it, he even broke MJ’s season record for most points in a regular season game. He is a two time champ and won many other awards along the way. I don’t even know why I’m defending D-Rob, his career speaks for its self. Deke might get in there.
October 9th, 2007 at 11:59 pm
mic says:
first off – he’s NOT in as of today. No way. Here is a list of players in the league over the course of Paul Pierce’s career who have a better chance than him
D-Wade (early, I know but c’mon he’s got a ring already)
T-Mac (who shouldnt get in either)
Vince
Gary Payton
Garnett (Only on the list because he’s now a celt)
Kobe
Bron (early – but recognize)
Melo’
Ray Allen
Manu (who I personally hate but whateva – media darling)
Gilbert Arenas
AI (a stretch to compare him to PP, I know)
Bibby
I left alot of others off because they play different positions or are completely different types of players.
personaly he is only a slightly younger version of
Mike Finley in my book. And simply being on a terrible team and being their main scorer (therefore inflating his stats vs. a player such as a Finley who played with talent around him…?)Pierce hasnt ever really been labeled a superstar or a bonafide winner.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:03 am
mic says:
Oh yeah, and he is aging fast… his production and games played has already begun to fall off. He will look like he did last year – or worse for the rest of his career and will only be around for three more years (declining years) tops. Celts DO NOT win the title. Danny Ainge is a white Isaiah Thomas(he helps other teams more than his own). Paul Peirce – Out.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:28 am
Triple Threat says:
Vince should not be ahead of Paul Pierce. Vince the choke artist, with the game on the line, game seven of the eastern semi-finals jacks up a three, BRICK. Never redeemed himself after that. On the Other hand, Paul never made much noise in the playoffs after his eastern finals appearances, but at least he improved on his game year after year. And comparing Mike Finly to Pierce is wrong, as good as Michael Finly was, he was never better than paul pierce. If Paul was on the same team as Nash and Dirk, shit their is a dynasty right there.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:52 am
Austin Burton says:
Mic, you’re letting last season sway your opinion too much. Pierce hasn’t been on a “terrible” team for long. He’s been to the playoffs 4 times in his 9 seasons. And his production/games isn’t “falling off.” Last year Pierce played 47 games. In the seasons prior to that, he played 79, 82, 80 ,79, 82, 82, 73 and 48 (the lockout year when teams played 50 games). Last year he averaged 25 ppg. How’s that falling off?
October 10th, 2007 at 7:36 am
KB24 says:
Eric, what do you mean Pierce has seperated himself from Mcgrady and Carter? If you were a gm and all 3 were available as free agents would you take Pierce 1st? Didn’t think so.
October 10th, 2007 at 8:53 am
Celts Fan says:
Vince Carter is a punk. Plain and simple. If you dog it to get out of a “bad” situation that you put yourself in by taking the $$$$$$, then step up and carry the team like they paid you to do. vince should NEVER get into the Hall. Period.
In terms of the list you guys asked:
Reggie and Robinson are locks.
Zo and Mutumbo are some of the best 5s ever, I think they have a good shot.
Rodman probably won’t, but in my opinion, if you lead the league in boards 7 or 8 times and win 5 rings as a vital part of all 5 teams, you should be in (I also think Horry should be in too. The role players don’t get enough love even though everyone knows you need solid role players around your stars or you end up w/ the ‘04.
Timmy, I would have said probably not before the “incident” last year. Really good player, didn’t win enough. Now, definitely not.
LJ – are you kidding?
Shawn Kemp – in, as the founding member of the Super Sperm HOF (Travis Henry is a first ballot HOF’er there too, as soon as he’s eligible!)
October 10th, 2007 at 8:54 am
Celts Fan says:
*Zo and Mutumbo some of the best DEFENSIVE 5s ever. my bad…
October 10th, 2007 at 12:07 pm
Mike says:
Pierce, Carter, and McGrady have career numbers that are too similar to determine who is definitely better. And yeah, Pierce’s 05-06 was probably better than any one of Vince or Tracy’s single season. But I can tell you one thing. I live in LA and I always used to circle the dates on the calendar when either VC or T-Mac was coming to play the Lakers. That’s because there’s really nothing as exciting in the current NBA as watching Kobe go up against other elite wing players. Pierce just never generated that kind of an excitement. It just didn’t feel like a superstar was coming to town when the Celtics visited LA, whereas it was a damn near circus when Carter (Raptors version) came to Staples.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:10 pm
Gee says:
In the future he will be IF he gets a ring. No ring means no H.O.F. for P-Doub. Now say like T-Mac he doesn’t need a ring to make it in. He just needs to get past the first round of the playoffs and do something significant and he will be H.O.F. P Doub. though…regardless of what he does in the future he won’t be H.O.F. till he wins a ring and even then he won’t be heavily considered. Still if he gets the ring he will barely make it in.
October 10th, 2007 at 12:48 pm
Eric says:
KB24: I would take Pierce without considering the other two…see Austin’s comment on his durability and the past comments about his clutch play, plus the other two have QUIT on their teams in the past, not an investment I’d make as a GM, Pierce the clear choice.
Mike: I respect the comment, but I gotta tell you the hype around Pierce and the Celtics 2 years ago when the game was on ESPN on a Sunday night was pretty hot…And Pierce dropped 39 or 40 against Kobe that night and the C’s won a thrilling game.
October 10th, 2007 at 1:16 pm
jackass says:
P double??? Not even close man…
ppplllllease ladies, gimme a one reason that he deserves HOF??? getting his number retired??? ridicilous. I haven’t even heard of him last couple years. Sure he made a conference final run couple years ago. AND one time.
And since when that accomplishment counts as a HOF performance. P DOUBLE??? UNLESS HE WINS A COUPLE OF RINGS and LEADS THE CELTICS, along with KG he shouldn’t even be considered a HOF
October 10th, 2007 at 1:45 pm
KB24 says:
Eric, do you even think that if the Celtics offered Pierce for TMAC the Rockets would accept, no, but if the Rockets offered Tmac to the Celtics for Pierce they would accept that deal in a heartbeat. Handsdown Tmac is a better player than Pierce, and is also closer to HOF status than Pierce.
October 10th, 2007 at 3:21 pm
Ian says:
reggie and robinson(best center of the mid 90s) are in
tim hardaway no
but pierce is ahead of tmac for the hof
for the guy that said is pierce was in dallas instead of finley they would be a dynasty LOL
October 10th, 2007 at 8:16 pm
DOC says:
PP needs a couple more good years but I’d take him over Vince and Tmac on my team cause they soft. And the guy that said KG wasn’t being considered till he became a Celtic shouldn’t watch ball no more.
October 10th, 2007 at 11:10 pm
p-spezio says:
You gotta let him in on his numbers alone. He brings it against everyone. He can’t help that the Celtics haven’t put a team around him until maybe now!
October 11th, 2007 at 7:13 am
Joey Doremi says:
Kevin Johnson should be considered, too.
October 11th, 2007 at 12:53 pm
Gee says:
LOL T-Mac will make it well before P Doub. T-Mac has and is the official leader of his team hands down. P Doub. use to share his with Toine. Again P Doub., depending on the future, will baaareeelly make it in. Comparing P. to T-Mac though is funny (especially a healthy T-Mac). P. is good, please don’t get me wrong, but T-Mac is just naturally better. T-Mac will get in hands down while P. better cross his fingers, eyes, legs and anything else that will cross to hope he makes it in.
October 16th, 2007 at 1:19 am
J Bizil says:
If he retired today I say no. The guy just turned 30. Most Hall of Famers play at a high level at least until their mid-30’s. Now if you are Shaq, Jordan, Magic, and Bird they accomplished so much so early you knew they were getting in. All those guys redefined the game of basketball and won rings in their 20’s. The talent and numbers are their for Pierce to get in but he still has a good 5-7 great years to play. But when he retires I say yes because he will be among the all time scoring leaders for guards and has no weakness on offense. He can score anyway you want it, can play PG (don’t know if he can guard one though), SG, and SF, is maybe the most physical two guard in the league, and has been a multiple time All-Star. He also is playing in the best era ever for two-guards and is amongst the best of the era along with Kobe, Mac, AI, Wade, Vince, and Ray Allen.
So yes Pierce deserves to be in eventually.
October 23rd, 2007 at 12:09 pm
Julie Blank says:
Hey there, just wanted to let people know that they will have a chance to speak with PAUL PIERCE himself on this live radio show called HOOPSTALK on nikebasketball.com. You can submit questions at to the HOOPSTALK page, send a text to 36453, or email them to nikebasketball@nike.com. Include your name, email address and mobile number so that they can contact you if you are selected to ask your question on the live show. You can listen to the live show by calling in to (800) 603-6817 @ 7:45pm ET on October 31st but you must submit questions prior to the show in order to speak with Paul. Spread the word this show is gonna be off the hook.
October 27th, 2007 at 11:04 pm
Eddo says:
He shown he has the ability. Now he has to show his credentials. The next 3 seasons will decide whether he (and Ray Allen, KG is pretty much locked) deserves to be in HOF. He has brought punctuated success, but he just had a few too many below par season in terms of team performance.
He is now part of the best trio in terms of ability in the league. PP needs to be performing well and seriously contending for a championship now, otherwise he won’t cut it.
November 5th, 2007 at 5:09 pm
emmett123 says:
I think that Paul Pierce is one of the best players in the league. Its been a long time for Celtics fans to have a reason for cheering, but Pierce has always been a bright spot in what seems like a century of darkness in Beantown. He has always been a solid player who can carry his team. Although he hasnt won a championship, he was never given a supporting cast or even another player close to his talent to play with. But now, with the edition of Garnett and Jesus Shuttlesworth, Pierce has weapons to dish to, and a shot a attaining one thing that he and his two other superstar teammates have not gotten yet…a championship…so, of course if his career ended tomorrow then yes he wouldnt be in…but in all reality, his career starts this season with KG and Allen ready to take the east by storm. Detroit and Miami better be prepared because any one of these guys can be the star each night, like Pip and MJ when they were playing.
November 5th, 2007 at 5:28 pm
emmett123 says:
wow, just reading jackass’s comments makes me glad i dont read things that often. are you serious about garnett just getting in????? He’s the best and has been the best power forward in the lead, and i would take him hands down over any big man just shy of a healthy Amare. Dude, you dont even understand…you didnt see him in high school at Farragut tearing rims down and dropping 40 like it was average. He was one of the first players to come out of high school into the pros without skipping a beat. theres a reason why he got paid 125 million jackass…there gonna win a ring this year so i guess your name works for you…jackass.
November 10th, 2007 at 5:10 pm
Ben says:
Pierce belongs in the HOF. He’s been under the radar because he has been on such crappy team. However, he has been probably the best 2 guard in the league in the last 5 years after Kobe Bryant and Dwyane Wade. T-Mac is better when healthy but he is too injury-prone. The only thing Pierce lacks is top-notch athleticism, but he’s still an above average athlete and he is the toughest and most physical 2 guard in the league. People will finally see how good Paul Pierce is this year now that he has some help.
November 27th, 2007 at 5:54 pm
Steve says:
I think all 3 (Garnett is already definite, but Ray Allen and Pierce will be in too as long as they keep up the good play. Pierce does it for 4 or 5 more years which is almost definite, and Ray does it for 3 or 4 more years which is almost definite…… all 3 of them will win a ring, and make the hall) will make it in when all is said and done.
December 22nd, 2007 at 12:01 am
dan says:
paul pierce is one of the most skilled all around player’s in the history of the game. while i agree at this point its tough to say if he should go to H.O.L. but if his remaining career he makes it to the finals and continue’s to put up his usual stats. then i dont think there’s a question that he should go to the HALL. IN his prime you could argue that pierce was in the top 10 players in NBA history.
April 8th, 2008 at 3:47 am
Tik says:
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first off – he’s NOT in as of today. No way. Here is a list of players in the league over the course of Paul Pierce’s career who have a better chance than him
D-Wade (early, I know but c’mon he’s got a ring already)
T-Mac (who shouldnt get in either)
Vince
Gary Payton
Garnett (Only on the list because he’s now a celt)
Kobe
Bron (early – but recognize)
Melo’
Ray Allen
Manu (who I personally hate but whateva – media darling)
Gilbert Arenas
AI (a stretch to compare him to PP, I know)
Bibby
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Melo
Wade
Manu
Bibby
You have to be kidding me. Have you ever watched the game?
You can’t compare T-mac with Pierce because they play two completely different games. Anyone who puts Carter on their HOF list should be drawn and quartered. Nobody has done less in this league than that man.
Side note…Being on posters and in commercials does not add to your HOF application.
June 19th, 2008 at 10:58 am
Jonny Drama says:
Well you guys wanted Pierce to get a ring, which he got along with a Finals MVP. Is that good enough to send him to Springfield?
June 19th, 2008 at 11:03 am
Jonny Drama says:
And I should also add Pierce outdueling Lebron in a game 7 and his defense on Kobe.
June 24th, 2008 at 12:20 am
baller23 says:
top 5 in his generation lots of heart and now a title hes in
January 17th, 2009 at 4:50 am
lamoni says:
if you put him in, you might as well put Kwame Brown in
he dont deserve it even though he has a ring
January 17th, 2009 at 5:05 am
lamoni says:
hey TIK are you Effin SERIOUS!
GIL?
T-Mac?
D-Wade?
VC?
Melo?
BIBBY!
MANU!!?
Ray?
they are No way near HOF eligible youve been watchin NBA for what A Week? your list must be based on favouritism
The only people who WILL BE HOF on your list are
1.Allen Iverson
2.Gary Payton
3.KG
4.Kobe
just because Wade has a ring dont mean he’ll be a HOF, look at Robert Horry he has 6rings SO WHY DONR WE PUT HIM IN!!!! see how stupid it is?