Timmy has no shot of starting. Photo. Courtesy adidasLots of people are bent out of shape about this year’s NBA All-Star ballot either because guys have been left off (Devin Harris, Chris Wilcox) or because arbitrary decisions on player positions have changed the landscape of voting (Tim Duncan listed as a center where he can’t possibly win a starting nod over Yao Ming).
The Star-Telegram’s Jan Hubbard breaks down how the balloting works and how it can be that Devin Harris isn’t on the ballot but Erick Dampier somehow is:
In reading Mark Cuban’s blog today, I was stunned to find out that the owner of the Mavericks does not know how the All-Star ballot is selected. Cuban has owned the Mavericks for nearly eight years and he is one of the smartest, most thorough individuals I have ever met. So it’s difficult to believe that he has not taken the time to find out the makeup of something that he finds important enough to criticize.
For Cuban, the Issue is Devin Harris’ absence from the All-Star ballot.
It was serendipitous that I happened to write about that today in the Star-Telegram, so perhaps that will help. But as a service, I will go even farther.
The All-Star panel meets before the season because it has to to give the in-arena ballot time to be made and distributed to the 30 teams. The people on the panel have all covered the NBA for many years, most of them more than 20. This year, it consisted of USA Today’s David Dupree, the Chicago Tribune’s Sam Smith, TNT’s Ernie Johnson, Sports Illustrated’s Jack McCallum, the Charlotte Observer’s Rick Bonnell (president of the Professional Basketball Writers Association), ESPN the Magazine’s Ric Bucher and Mike Monroe from the San Antonio Express-News.
I have been part of the panel before and I can assure you that everyone takes the job quite seriously. There is lively debate and people sometimes even leave the meeting angry with the other guys because of disagreements over the fourth best player on the Clippers. So for anyone to believe that there was some sort of conspiracy to leave someone off, well, that’s silly.
Terry Lyons worked for the NBA public relations department for 26 years before leaving last summer. He has a blog and today, made a good point in responding to Cuban’s criticism. If you are going to put Harris on the ballot, then it is true. You have to take someone off.
The obvious candidate is Erick Dampier, but here’s the problem. The All-Star ballot requires that 12 centers be named from each conference. There are 15 teams in each conference and to be honest, there are not 12 All-Star centers in the entire league.
So the problem is that you have to have two players from each team but no more than five from any. With the center requirement, it makes it tough. There is little doubt that if the committee had not been forced into putting 12 centers on the ballot in each conference, then Harris might have made it.
If the committee made one mistake this year, it was arbitrarily moving Tim Duncan from forward to center, where he has no chance to start because the basketball citizenry of China will vote Yao Ming as a starter. That can be taken care of, however, by separating players in the future between backcourt and frontcourt. Each ballot could list 20 backcourt players and 30 frontcourt players. Yes, there might be years when three 6-8 forwards win the top three spots, but it is better than listing 12 centers.
If I do have an issue with Cuban, it is when he writes in his blog that the All-Star committee is “supposedly its a bunch of media members ( which may be all the explanation I need) who decide who is on or off. No matter, its a sure bet none of them has a future as a GM in this league.”
Interesting that Cuban is deriding the media. When he was on “Dancing with the Stars,” I got several emails asking the media to attend a practice with him and partner Kym Johnson. Cuban wanted us all to write about it so that he could get more votes. I did, in fact, write an article about it and I was happy to do it because it was legitimate entertainment news made by the owner of a local sports team. In that case, I guess, the media was OK.
Personally, Devin Harris not being on the All-Star ballot is not as big of an issue as having to put 12 centers on the ballot in each conference. Harris will be on the ballot plenty of times, and besides, if anyone truly believes that Devin is one of the top two guards in the Western Conference, it is very easy to cast a write-in ballot. But again, to paraphrase Allen Iverson, we’re talking BALLOT. Not the All-Star game, but the BALLOT!
No doubt, I have no future as a GM, but then after writing about “Dancing with the Stars,” I have no future as an entertainment writer, either.
– Jan Hubbard
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November 19th, 2007 at 10:43 am
penske1 says:
Hey Dime, how about a write-up on all the all-star caliber players who are not on the ballot. That would give some of us a little illumination on who our write-in votes should go to. Some of us don’t have time to go through that entire list to pick someone.
November 19th, 2007 at 10:48 am
Dime Magazine says:
penske1,
good call, we’re already working on it.
November 19th, 2007 at 11:22 am
Mox says:
Harris(15pts, 5ast) may have a case, but i think there are too many good guards in the west to put him on the team. Damp(5pts,8 boards) should have NO chance of making the all-star team. This is a good article. How does Cuban not know that??
November 19th, 2007 at 11:32 am
smity says:
interesting…
November 19th, 2007 at 11:38 am
2 Easy says:
lol ballot, not the All star game but the ballot? lmao that practise rant applies to EVERYTHING LMAO
November 19th, 2007 at 11:44 am
Myrie in NY says:
Ballots are for starters correct? Harris has no shot of starting. But I believe when the coaches select the reserves, they can select players who were not on the ballot.
I believe Sprewell made an all star team out in Golden State (mid ’90s) without being on the ballot.
Any why is Tim Duncan listed as a ‘center’? Who’s idea was that?….Joe Crawford? McGrady is listed as a guard some years and as a forward in others. Just like Vince Carter. This is pure sillyness.
The NBA might as well let Tim Donaghy come back for that game.
November 19th, 2007 at 11:50 am
Amar says:
it’s just a shame that ‘Toine Walker is listed as a guard, and not a forward, because guys on realGM.com’s message board were going to vote him in as an all-star.
November 19th, 2007 at 12:52 pm
Bxballer says:
DEVIN HARRIS DOES NOT DESERVE TO MAKE THE BALLOT.
November 19th, 2007 at 1:25 pm
Lucky Lester says:
Devin Harris does deserve to make the ballot - he just doesn’t deserve to get voted in… Same with Chris Wilcox. They start, they put up good numbers, and Dev even plays the point for a very good team - Bxballer, that’s just a dumb thing to say.
November 19th, 2007 at 2:55 pm
dank says:
yet even more proof that Mr. Cuban is perhaps the most incompetent owner in sports history. calling Devin Harris - a mediocre offensive point guard (with speed)- “the best defensive point guard in the league????”
is Cuban smoking crack by the pound???
the dude is insane. ill name you 2 guys better, quicker, and more efficient than Devin Harris…
ready???
Leandro Barbosa (who i hate)
and my boy Monta Ellis
although yes, the ballot is flawed (antoine walker, and dampier being on it is retarded), im not worried about those mediocre players, along with Devin Harris being in the all star game.
absolutely no chance
oh and thanks to cuban, now there is more reasons to believe maverick fans are terminally ill with some disease and therefore causes them to say delirious things.
November 19th, 2007 at 3:54 pm
djKianoosh says:
they should just eliminate the individual positions and just let the fans select the top 6 or 7 players they want to see. the gm/coaches can vote on the next 6, and the commish can vote one final player in. forget the positions. they don’t really play positions in the all star game anyway!
if anything, they can just select a PG, C, and then everyone else in between, since they’re all so interchangeable now anyway. or maybe bigs and smalls.. whatever, why complicate things just for ballots.. i mean, we talkin bout ballots man! not the game, not the game. we talk bout ballots! (this is like that Denny Green “they are who we thought they were!” it will live on in infamy…)