Comments on: Take Me to Your Leader http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/ Dime is your daily source for NBA News, NBA Trades, NBA Rumors, NBA Videos and Sneakers Mon, 13 Feb 2012 07:02:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.2.1 By: Youngfed http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17066 Youngfed Thu, 27 Dec 2007 17:24:58 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17066 LOL and LMAO at Myrie post#7. I gotta say no thanx to that one. Just keeping it real. Isaih eventually will fix things there in NY. You just gotta believe (LOL). LOL and LMAO at Myrie post#7. I gotta say no thanx to that one. Just keeping it real. Isaih eventually will fix things there in NY. You just gotta believe (LOL).

]]> By: Celts Fan http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17056 Celts Fan Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:59:25 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17056 ya myrie, he's average now (his rookie year) but give him a chance to develop. I've seen more low post moves from him than I've seen from anyone else on that roster and I see some potential. Troy Murphy has more of a face-up, midrange game, big difference. I saw Aaron Gray do a few up and unders and a hook or 2. He's also 2 inches taller and about 30 pounds bigger than Troy Murphy, which matters a lot when you're banging down low. Again, I'm not proclaiming the guy an all star, but he's a nice piece and a steal in the 2nd round who's definitely worth giving more minutes to to see if he can fill a role that they have no one else that can fill (long term, Joe Smith can supplement him this year while he gets used to the speed and physicality of the league.) ya myrie, he’s average now (his rookie year) but give him a chance to develop. I’ve seen more low post moves from him than I’ve seen from anyone else on that roster and I see some potential.

Troy Murphy has more of a face-up, midrange game, big difference. I saw Aaron Gray do a few up and unders and a hook or 2. He’s also 2 inches taller and about 30 pounds bigger than Troy Murphy, which matters a lot when you’re banging down low.

Again, I’m not proclaiming the guy an all star, but he’s a nice piece and a steal in the 2nd round who’s definitely worth giving more minutes to to see if he can fill a role that they have no one else that can fill (long term, Joe Smith can supplement him this year while he gets used to the speed and physicality of the league.)

]]> By: smity http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17054 smity Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:54:50 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17054 Celts Fan-i agree Myrie-i agree youngfed- i agree. ---however, you all shouldnt deny that signing ben wallace at the time wasnt a good idea (as it propelled my chicago's bulls from "good young team" to "possible contender") ---i really can't call it with this team. like i said before and like myrie just said, this team should have gotten that low post scorer (and not just a nazr but a pau) that they needed. but they didnt want to part with some of the players. if the season continues like this maybe the lottery will bring good news and then maybe they could get rid of kirk, wallace and one gordon for another gordon altogether... Celts Fan-i agree
Myrie-i agree
youngfed- i agree.

—however, you all shouldnt deny that signing ben wallace at the time wasnt a good idea (as it propelled my chicago’s bulls from “good young team” to “possible contender”)

—i really can’t call it with this team. like i said before and like myrie just said, this team should have gotten that low post scorer (and not just a nazr but a pau) that they needed. but they didnt want to part with some of the players. if the season continues like this maybe the lottery will bring good news and then maybe they could get rid of kirk, wallace and one gordon for another gordon altogether…

]]> By: doc http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17053 doc Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:54:24 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17053 The Bulls need a offensive stallion. All that D don't mean shit if you give up 85 and got 80. Ben Gordon is one of the most overhyped players in the league. Same game since college. They better not give him a lot of change. The Bulls need a offensive stallion. All that D don’t mean shit if you give up 85 and got 80. Ben Gordon is one of the most overhyped players in the league. Same game since college. They better not give him a lot of change.

]]> By: Myrie in NY http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17050 Myrie in NY Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:44:24 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17050 Celtsfan-- Aaron Gray is ok. I ain't hating. He's decent; but nothing to pin long term hopes to. He doesn't give you anything that you couldn't find in someone else. Troy Murphy has low post moves too ya know. Part of the reason (speculated) that Skiles was fired was because the players were not happy with the amount of minutes Gray was getting. They players thought he should be playing more. So....thats a good sign for Gray. His teammates want him on the court. But unlike you....I am not so impressed. Average. But...when your average, your always at your best. Celtsfan–
Aaron Gray is ok. I ain’t hating. He’s decent; but nothing to pin long term hopes to. He doesn’t give you anything that you couldn’t find in someone else. Troy Murphy has low post moves too ya know.

Part of the reason (speculated) that Skiles was fired was because the players were not happy with the amount of minutes Gray was getting. They players thought he should be playing more. So….thats a good sign for Gray. His teammates want him on the court.

But unlike you….I am not so impressed. Average. But…when your average, your always at your best.

]]> By: Celts Fan http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17049 Celts Fan Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:41:34 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17049 and what you lose in defense with a guy like Gray, you can cover up w/ Thomas protecting the rim, and offensively, he's (potentially) your low post threat. Not saying they should do this immediately, but based on what they have on that roster right now, it seems to be the most viable long-term solution if they don't get anyone else in the draft/trades that could help. and what you lose in defense with a guy like Gray, you can cover up w/ Thomas protecting the rim, and offensively, he’s (potentially) your low post threat. Not saying they should do this immediately, but based on what they have on that roster right now, it seems to be the most viable long-term solution if they don’t get anyone else in the draft/trades that could help.

]]> By: Celts Fan http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17046 Celts Fan Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:37:03 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17046 Myrie, I like Aaron Gray. He's 7'0", 280, with some low post moves. He's a nice backup with potential to be a starter someday. The biggest problem w/ Ben Wallace there is that he doesn't fit. He and Tyrus Thomas are redundant. Both high energy, good defense, no offense type guys. Tyrus Thomas and Aaron Gray could be the low post starters of the future. Don't hate just cuz he's white. I saw him make some nice moves and leave KG in the dust a few times last week. I was impressed... Myrie, I like Aaron Gray. He’s 7’0″, 280, with some low post moves. He’s a nice backup with potential to be a starter someday. The biggest problem w/ Ben Wallace there is that he doesn’t fit. He and Tyrus Thomas are redundant. Both high energy, good defense, no offense type guys. Tyrus Thomas and Aaron Gray could be the low post starters of the future. Don’t hate just cuz he’s white. I saw him make some nice moves and leave KG in the dust a few times last week. I was impressed…

]]> By: Myrie in NY http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17038 Myrie in NY Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:17:03 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17038 YOUNGFED-- Give us (NY) Joe Dumars and we will give you back Isiah Thomas. Bet? YOUNGFED–
Give us (NY) Joe Dumars and we will give you back Isiah Thomas. Bet?

]]> By: YOUNGFED http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17032 YOUNGFED Thu, 27 Dec 2007 16:03:15 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17032 You said it Celts Glad we dump BIG BEN, Joe dumars is a genious just look at how he dumped Nazr on the Bobcats. Gotta love it. The Pistons will be nice for quite some time. Also Myrie the team talent isn't the problem its finding someone that can make that team work together. Those guys just don't wanna play there (Deng and BG). You can't expect them to when your GM is snubbing your best players in a contract year. The Pistons take care of their players thats why they play so hard most of the time above their talent level. You said it Celts Glad we dump BIG BEN, Joe dumars is a genious just look at how he dumped Nazr on the Bobcats. Gotta love it. The Pistons will be nice for quite some time.

Also Myrie the team talent isn’t the problem its finding someone that can make that team work together. Those guys just don’t wanna play there (Deng and BG). You can’t expect them to when your GM is snubbing your best players in a contract year. The Pistons take care of their players thats why they play so hard most of the time above their talent level.

]]> By: Myrie in NY http://dimemag.com/2007/12/take-me-to-your-leader/comment-page-1/#comment-17027 Myrie in NY Thu, 27 Dec 2007 15:58:12 +0000 http://dimemag.com/2007/12/27/take-me-to-your-leader/#comment-17027 Celtsfan-- Agreed. They didn't need Ben Wallace. They were already the best defensive team in the league before they got him (by virtue of opp fg percentage). Aaron Gray is average, but he will have his share of moments to shine; and he will. But average overall. They should trade Tyrus Thomas, Joe Smith and Kirk Hinrich to the Pacers for Jamaal Tinsley and Jermaine O'Neal. Celtsfan–
Agreed. They didn’t need Ben Wallace. They were already the best defensive team in the league before they got him (by virtue of opp fg percentage).

Aaron Gray is average, but he will have his share of moments to shine; and he will. But average overall.

They should trade Tyrus Thomas, Joe Smith and Kirk Hinrich to the Pacers for Jamaal Tinsley and Jermaine O’Neal.

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