NBA / Feb 21, 2008 / 10:28 am
The Sports Guy’s Trade Machine
The Sports GuyAs today’s 3 P.M. trade deadline draws closer, we’re keeping up with any and all news, rumors and speculation. That includes what deals would work. Yesterday, Bill Simmons posted a bunch of major deals that, when put through the ESPN Trade Machine, would go through.
We’re sure that no GMs would look at these though, in most cases there’s too much common sense involved…
February 21st, 2008 at 10:42 am
Myrie says:
Not one of this dudes scenarios make any sense. Nice try Simmons.
Your just throwing players salaries together and forcing reasoning to make logic. I’m not buying it. Re-read your scenarios and see just how foolish your line of thinking is.
Please try again later.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:09 am
Flo Jo says:
Wow, this guy likes to go big with his trades. I think he has been messing with NBA Live Dynasty mode too much.
February 21st, 2008 at 11:30 am
Fabian says:
Simmons for Bucks GM! YES WE CAN!!!
hahaha
February 21st, 2008 at 11:37 am
Lee says:
I like his Washington / Clippers deal. Other than than not much made sence
February 21st, 2008 at 11:41 am
GEE...I woke up this morning and pissed excellence says:
That trade for the Rockets would work! I like Shane and all but with Artest you get same defense plus scoring and someone providing some intimidation. He was right, who really is scared of anyone on Houston right now? Not nobody!
I mean I know Shane is a good boy and all, and with Ron you never know what to expect, but as we all know, when you are winning, even the most hardest of heads act right.
DANG HOUSTON NEEDS TO DO THIS!
February 21st, 2008 at 11:50 am
Myrie says:
..on 2nd thought, I agree with LEE…
Simmons’ scenario trade with the Clippers/Wizards is the most interesting.
…by the way….
If there is still a city looking for an NBA team, why don’t they go after the LA Clippers?
I mean….does LA really need 2 professional basketball teams? especially when one (the Clips) remain an after thought?
February 21st, 2008 at 11:56 am
Prof. TX says:
I don’t think the Rockets have the tools to make Artest behave. They don’t have the right coach or veterans to get him to shape up. MJ could keep Rodman focused on the game, but I don’t see the same thing happening between Artest and McGrady or Yao.
Why not McGrady for Redd? That could be interesting. T-Mac isn’t the same attack-the-basket or 13pts in 35sec player he used to be, and Redd could score just as much without needing to hold the ball for so long. And Redd wants to leave, while T-Mac would look even better in the East.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:05 pm
dagwaller says:
The problem with Simmons trades in general is that they’re so big, in my opinion. Good ideas, but you can’t just make trades for the sake of making trades. If you traded half of your team for half of the other team just to make it work, I generally don’t think that it works. Although the Warriors did a good job last year after a similar trade.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:09 pm
GEE...If she got coot problems you better not mess with her says:
No I don’t want Redd. Keep Mac. You don’t give up Mac on potential alone. Mac has to much ability in every way to just let him go, for Redd.
I think Ron would act right cause of Rick. Rick has good coaching skills and could make it work I bet.
What can Redd do besides shoot?
February 21st, 2008 at 12:09 pm
mr.fresh says:
That shit was absolutely stupid…
February 21st, 2008 at 12:29 pm
Celts Fan says:
Interesting read at the very least. I agree some (most) of the trades are a stretch, but that’s the point. We’d all be saying it was way too boring and predictable if he trotted out “Sam Cassell to Boston for a late #1″ or even the Kurt Thomas trade that actually happened last night (which I hope burns the Suns in the Playoffs, if a legit title contender makes a salary/pick dump trade, they deserve to get that same guy traded to one of their rivals and have it bite them in the @$$ in the Playoffs.) This guy is made on being over the top. Funny thing is though, even though most of the trades look bad on paper, the explanations do kind of make sense even if you do disagree with the trades themselves (which I do on most.)
ALL OF THE TRADES make more sense than the Pau Gasol trade, so let’s not dismiss them all as of yet.
As a guy that was firmly entrenched in the Chris Paul should be 1st overall camp 3 years ago (I’m sure most of you were too, it wasn’t hard to see he’d be amazing) I’m behind him. SIMMONS GM ‘08 YES WE CAN!
February 21st, 2008 at 12:36 pm
Brown says:
I agree with Dagwaller. Teams aren’t going to make drastic changes at this time of the year. At the trade deadlines, teams look to tinker with their lineups, not overhaul them, especially playoff teams.
If any of his trades made sense, they would be done in the offseason.
There’s so much BS in his logic, I don’t even know where to start.
February 21st, 2008 at 12:55 pm
dagwaller says:
Then again, I see what Celts is saying about the Pau trade. If only Simmons would focus more on REALISTIC trades that made sense, I could get behind him as a candidate more.
And by realistic, I don’t mean that Simmons is proposing trades more ludicrous than the Pau trade; I mean that history has shown that few GMs are willing to shake up half of their team! I sat for a minute or two to figure out why, and I genuinely can’t think of a good reason. If you have two mediocre teams that aren’t really going anywhere, there’s no reason NOT to do some of these trades. Some are better than others, obviously. All that having been said, though, it just doesn’t happen very often. Can’t explain it.
February 21st, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Celts Fan says:
dagwaller, as Simmons says, No Balls Association
February 21st, 2008 at 1:18 pm
YallAllReadyKnow says:
where did espn.com find this quagmieer?
that trade machine bullshit accepts any trade scenario.
and how come i can’t find dime magazine on any newsstand?
February 21st, 2008 at 1:53 pm
Kobeef says:
Is something up with Marion going to Cleveland?
I am hearing lots of news that Cleveland is looking at a blockbuster trade and that Marion is available.
February 21st, 2008 at 2:20 pm
GEE...If she got coot problems you better not mess with her says:
Marion Jones maybe but I can’t see Mia letting dude go just now for real.
Kobeef you for real? Link us up homey. If Marion went to Cleveland that would be a tandem for real.
I would hate that for Wade though, cause who they gone give the Heat for Marion for real? Wade would just be on a team with some lame dudes.
February 21st, 2008 at 4:17 pm
YallAllReadyKnow says:
i know yall dime mofo’s ain’t gonna like where this link is coming from, but that besides the point. this is a good read. check it out bitches:
http://slamonline.com/online/2008/02/the-real-franchise-players/
February 21st, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
The Cleveland Cavaliers appear to have beaten the NBA’s annual trade buzzer to get LeBron James some of the fresh help he’s been openly craving.
In a three-way trade with Chicago and Seattle that has been submitted for league approval, NBA front-office sources say that Cleveland will come away with four new teammates for James, headlined by Ben Wallace from the Bulls and sharpshooter Wally Szczerbiak from the Sonics.
The league office was notified of the deal before Thursday’s 3 p.m. ET trading deadline, sources said, and is currently reviewing the trade details as required for formal approval.
After Cleveland watched two longstanding trade targets land elsewhere — Mike Bibby in Atlanta and Jason Kidd in Dallas — sources say that the deal calls for the Cavaliers to receive Wallace, Szczerbiak, Seattle point guard Delonte West, Chicago’s Joe Smith and a future second-round pick from the Bulls.
The Bulls, apparently abandoning their gamble on Wallace less than two seasons into the lucrative four-year deal they used to sign him away from Detroit, would get Cavaliers forward Drew Gooden and swingman Larry Hughes along with Cavs reserves Cedric Simmons and Shannon Brown.
The Sonics, shedding Szczerbiak in the name of additional payroll flexibility, come away with the expiring contracts of Cleveland’s Ira Newble and Chicago’s Adrian Griffin as well as Cavs veteran Donyell Marshall.