WWGD? (What Would Gee Do?)
Give him 5 seconds in the lane to go to work?We told you about it in Smack this morning – today marks the launch of a new feature on Dimemag.com called “Pass the Mic” where we turn the space over to one of readers in an effort to give them a voice on the site beyond the “Comments” section.
If you’re a regular here, you know our first guest writer as “GEE,” the die-hard Rockets fan with a new nickname every day. Let’s turn it over to GEE …
“I surely appreciate it – whoo!
What you about to witness is my thoughts
Just my thoughts man – right or wrong
Just what I was feeling at the time,” – Artist: Jay-Z
First off I wanna thank the DIME crew for letting a dude speak on it for a minute. So DIME up on that and then as always … Houston up regardless!
These playoffs got ‘cha boi thinking fa real about the League in regards to rules that have changed the game for better or for worst over the years (and most of us are still married to it and love it anyway, right?). So I am thinking, “What if I was Sterny and could change some things? What would I keep, dismiss and bring in to better the game?” So I am going to run it for you all on how GEE would do it if they let me get a hold of the L for a minute.
What I would Keep:
No hand-checking – Surely you all remember this rule when they had guards on D using their hands to help in checking their opponent. I am glad it’s gone because it opens up the game and shows who can play D without his hands. Big men had to stop using their hands in the paint too, everything went to forearms.
Longer shorts – Say no to Nut Huggers! For real, how did John Stockton play in those?!?!
Dressing up – Yea! Yea! Yeaaaa! I know the dress code was possibly aimed particularly at black players (and I don’t like that). I still think it’s a good look for the L to have players in suits and nice clothing.
What I Would Dismiss or Change:
Fouling players on purpose without the ball – Seeing the Spurs go nuts with Hack-A-Shaq in the third quarter the other night was slowing the game down tremendously. To foul someone who doesn’t have the ball just to send them to the line is wrong to me. Outside of fighting for position and setting screens that are too hard, the only fouls with the ball should be called. Even if you have to stop the clock, you must foul the person with
the ball to me. Adds to the excitement chasing down the players with the ball rather than just grabbing someone.
6 fouls – I am taking it to five, pimpin! They don’t need six. This again adds to the excitement and causes players to really think about playing smart defense.
Three seconds – I would simply make it five seconds. A lot of players look for the three-second rule as a way out when they are in trouble on D. Man up and really play D now that your opponent has five seconds to live in the lane.
What I Would Add:
Three-point line – Move it back to separate those who really have range from just anyone jacking up threes (although we all know some are still going to jack it up still). Bring the line out.
Four-pointers – This is just GEE but any shot from half court and beyond should be worth four points. Those are amazing shots. So to answer that question in your head, it does mean that if a player gets fouled and hits a shot from half court or beyond, then yes, that’s a potential five-point play!
One coach’s challenge – I know I am going to catch heat for this (my dawgs already give me grief about it), but they have it in the NFL why not the NBA? Same rules apply that it will cost the team a timeout if the coach is wrong on the challenge. Think of some games (playoffs mainly) that were decided on bad calls. In the end you have the ref walking fast off the court followed by some players and a coach complaining. With the one-challenge rule they could throw or raise a flag and possibly get the right call made. Players feel vindicated, the right calls are made, and it helps the game.
I could go on about rules I would change – it’s a discussion I have with my dawgs from time to time and they have come up with some wild ish too (like raising the rim to 12 ft). Holla at ya boi, and let me know what you liked and didn’t like about my column and let me know what you would do?
– GEE
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April 24th, 2008 at 10:29 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
I am humbled to have my words out here like this. Thanks DIME.
Honored for real.
Hope all enjoy and for real let me know what you all would do?
Surreal fo real!
April 24th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Jah says:
GEE,
I agree on the coaches’ challenge. Especially after the referee controversy that was brought to our attention this past summer.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:36 am
Yooooo says:
You’re opinions are ridiculous. Im glad they’re gonna stay simply, you’re opinion
April 24th, 2008 at 10:36 am
steve says:
The four point play is just stupid. I agree with fouling people on purpose. They need to get rid of that.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:38 am
MoxWestCoastRep says:
Come on GEE, 4 pointers?? This aint the rock n jock!! lol You would have cats like Arenas pulling up from half court every game!
I like the 5 fouls rule too, good call.
I like the article and the whole concept.
congrats to GEE being the first,Nice work!
And to DIME- way to think outside the box fellas.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:42 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
LOL getting heat lol woooo! I guess now I know how the real DIME writers feel when folks go crazy on what they did and didn’t report.
It’s cool live and learn lol
Funny though, people are ready to diss but not offering no ideas of their own.
I am built fo it!
April 24th, 2008 at 10:45 am
control says:
First off, I would do anything at all to eliminate flopping as much as possible. There is nothing that pisses me off more and makes me throw stuff at my TV when I see a 7’1 300lb guy falling down when someone like AI runs into him, and then AI getting called for a foul. If you can’t cover the guy without pulling that cheap stuff, get off the court.
The whole charge/blocking issue being left up to the refs gives them way too much influence over the outcome of the game. There have been SOOOOOO many plays that could have went either way, and it has literally knocked teams out of the play offs.
Bottomline, it should be a block EVERY time someone leaves their feet, THEN you plant your feet hoping to take a charge. It should only be a charge if the offensive player karate kicks, elbows, or “Manu mid-air seizures” the defensive player. Bring the shit back to basics.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:47 am
What. says:
Disagree on the shorts length. The shorter the better. They are liberating, and freedom of movement is greater. Try them out before you bash them.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:48 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
Max thanks and finally some other ideas thanks Control!
Control I hate the floppin to, it’s funny at times that a dude can be so dramatic but for the most part I can’t stand it.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:54 am
foscheezeeee says:
Good stuff dawg…I almost fell off da couch lauging at the 4-pointer though… I could see Kobe taking at least 2-3 per game….. I think if you had 5-seconds in the paint, Shaq (even though he 36) would lead the league in scoring. Can’t guard him for that long… And I think the league gives 6 fouls to assure “Superstars” don’t fould out of the game that much, U know for television and stuff like dat. It’s all about the show baby!
April 24th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Prof. TX says:
First, have to give credit to a Rockets fan getting ahead, especially one who recognizes stars like Vernon Maxwell.
Second, what the league really needs is a control on flops. The problem is, how do you do it? It’s hard to separate the actors from the guys that are just clumsy or lightweight and fall with the slightest hit. And then what, a technical, a turnover? What’s the rule and what’s the punishment?
Third, ‘shooting’ fouls. Just because you threw the ball up a couple of feet two seconds after a ‘foul’ doesn’t mean you were really shooting. Guys are just tossing it toward the rafters any time there is contact and trying to act like it was a legitimate shot.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Daily boy says:
You has some good points Gee, I’m feeling gettin rid of that Hack-a-Shaq crap, just play the game. But the challenge thing is kinda far feched. But overall good work.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:02 am
nick says:
good column, like the call on getting rid of fouling off the ball. that ish pisses me off when i see that go down. The flopping has got to go as well.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:03 am
SWAT says:
LOL GEE its sounds like you’ve been listening to JVG commentary! Ha dude says some outlandish stuff onthe state of the NBA and their rules. JK GEE. I agree with you on some points like the dressing, sorry dudes you got dough stop rocking tall tees. I also agree with the coaches challenge…i remember a couple of years ago when the Rox played dallas in the playoffs and Finley was clearly out of bounds and made a pass that led to a big time 4th quarter bucket. The only thing I would change would be maybe the way the refs run the game…superstar calls. Ex: Dwade in the 4th a couple of years ago, everytime Manu drives, no more superstar calls.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:04 am
BALLZ says:
Holy shit. You let a reader write a column and this is what we get? Have you ever actually watched basketball Geetard? The 5-second lane? The 4-point shot? I seriously think I just lost 10 I.Q. points reading this.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:11 am
QQ says:
First of all, congrats GEE, for real.
Keep it up, brother, Cheers.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:11 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
SWAT that 1 play with Finley is when the whole coach challenge thing came up. That had me so mad.
BALLZ you did read it though lol. Sorry bout your I.Q.
Prof. TX Yea Manu does that a lot in throwing his hands up as if he was shooting when he gets fouled. I don’t like that either, specially when it’s a three, dudes really try to seem as if they were shooting then.
foscheezeeee the 5 second rule would lean more for your Shaq and D. Howards of the world but dudes and coaches be hoping for 3 seconds like life depended on it.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:13 am
Joe says:
Is this supposed to be journalistic writing??? The only time dawgs should be mentioned should be when there is talk of a pet – take all this supposedly “cool talk” elsewhere. Man, DIME has really, really slipped since it left Foxsports.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:14 am
BALLZ says:
Thanks for having a good sense of humor Geetard. Maybe TMac will get his first fourth quarter field goal of the playoffs tonight….
April 24th, 2008 at 11:18 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
LOL NOBALLZ maybe, they certainly need it.
Joe I wrote it as I would say it. The “cool talk” lol is how I would speak if we were talking about this in real life.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:25 am
DaPro says:
Congrats again soldier….
Back 2 the game,
4 pointers…right
The way 2 eliminate the flopping is to give guys techs for it. If you blatantly flop you get a tech. No one wants to be kicked out of a game for flopping.
The late game fouling will continue as long as cats continue to miss free throws down the stretch. I’m not opposed to the fouling, it’s all about strategy. The Suns should have fouled Duncan and make him hit free throws. Make adjustments and subs as a coach.
I get where you’re going with the challenge but that will slow the game down too much. It hurts the spirit of the game and the credibility of the refs in the NBA. The refs can make some bad calls but it’s easy to make a call if you’re sitting on the couch with the benefit of the replay. I will say that the Commish should allow the refs to look at the big ass jumbotron above their head and see what a dumb ass call they made.
Just my thoughts, I’m Swayze.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:28 am
nice feature but... says:
PLEASE don’t give a column to youngfed or anybody thats ever said “first” I may have to stop reading DIME if you feature anything by youngfed.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:33 am
hahns says:
outlandish flopping should be a personal foul..or maybe a tech.
4pt play? thats just crazy. and extending the 3pt line? thats just turning the nba into a carnival sideshow act. keep the 3pt line where its at..enough players haven proven that they can launch it from distance. moving the line back will open up the lane more too..which i think makes the game more offensively driven instead of defense..which isnt good. lowering to five fouls is bad too imo, bc ive seen way too many players get whistled for fouls that didnt deserve it..so that sixth foul kind of acts like a buffer and gives a margin of error for bad calls made by refs. refs arent perfect, so some errant calls will be made through the course of a game.
agreed that fouling on purpose (hackashack) should be banned. and i like the coaches challenge deal. a bad challenge=losing a timeout, would be huge in 4thQ crunch time (the only time challenges would realy matter), so thats an adequate disincentive not to be cavalier with challenges.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am
Billy Sunday says:
the 4 pointer aint crackin at all, the short length is good now. I dont know of anyone in the league that wears short shorts. The 4 pointer thing isnt crackin and moving the three point line back isnt crackin too. The 5 second in the lane is cool it should go both ways though, offense and defense. I like the fouling without the ball rule.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
DaPro but it’s going to be argued that a player really wasn’t floppin and he got knocked down for real.
I honestly don’t have a solution besides what some ref did in the UGA vs. Hawaii football game, I think it was, where he told the UGA kicker who pretended he got hit and laid on the ground “Get Up!” and the game resumed.
I don’t know about the giving them a tech but they certainly should tell them to just get up!
nice feature but Hey I can’t trip they gave me a chance. You know an article by him would be full of stuff about hovas and haters though lol.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:40 am
Smitty313 says:
Gee tell your boy if they raised the rim to 12ft the NBA would go out of buisness. There would be less dunks. I know there are tons of NBA players who could dunk 12ft rims. Go to watch a WNBA.
April 24th, 2008 at 11:46 am
Celts Fan says:
GEE, you missed the biggest change we need to make. Shorten the damn Playoffs. Why the hell do we need to wait 2 days between EVERY game in every series? I get the whole TV ratings thing, but it shouldn’t take 3 weeks to play 7 games!
I like all the ideas other than the 3 seconds (they barely call it anyway unless it’s egregious, so why bother, plus it gives a HUGE advantage to bigs) and shortening it to 5 fouls.
I think you got a great idea that could’ve been even better though. I like the 4 pt. shot behind half court, add a 5 pt. shot from beyond the opponents foul line and we’re set!
April 24th, 2008 at 11:53 am
James says:
Dont ever raise the rim to 12
April 24th, 2008 at 11:57 am
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
Smitty trust me we have already gave dude the work about that one!
Celts I had other wild ideas, but I could only write so much. I like the shorten the playoffs. I also wanted to make the preseason shorter.
LOL @ the 5 pt. For real I guess a lot of cats think dudes would be pulling half court shots a lot. I don’t think it would be any different except for when 4 points were absolutely needed.
Not like you have half court shots happen every night. Every other night perhaps, every night no.
Oh yea and they also need to do stuff for people who pad stats just to hit land marks like shooting and missin on purpose to get rebounds and crap.
I am still debating on whether having lady refs in an all dude sport is smart?
April 24th, 2008 at 11:59 am
Celts Fan says:
I don’t think they’d be gunning from 50 ft. either unless it was needed, but it makes full court heaves at the end of quarters that much more important if they drop.
Keep the girl refs, just make sure Violet Palmer is no longer one of them!
April 24th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
DIME where you all at? I also want to know what changes AB, Pat, Omi and whoever else would do to the game?
Get in.
For real in light of Atl’s playing. I am really thinking Sterny should go to the best 16 teams instead of 8 and 8 from the east and west.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
Jeffrey says:
Nice article. Very entertaining. Give me my own column
April 24th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
@Nice article but..
I concur!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 12:21 pm
WM says:
If someone without the ball is fouled the team whose player is fouled should be able to pick who they want going to the line. For example if the Spurs foul shaq then nash can shoot.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:27 pm
bliz289 says:
nice work Gee…and i agree with Control from way up in post #7. flopping is not a legit basketball play! if you tried that bs on the playground or in any pick up run you’d get laughed at and run off the court! flopping is not a substitute for defense!
April 24th, 2008 at 12:39 pm
control says:
GEE, you really say “ish” while talking in your everyday life? If someone told me that was “ish” I’d tell them to fuck off.
I’d like to also second/third/fouth on YOUNGFED not having a column. Ever. It would probably be full of references to him fucking fat chicks and shit about his penis. There would be so many stupid nickname and aliases that we wouldn’t have a clue who or what he is talking about, only that his dick is involved somewhere.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:42 pm
sans says:
Gee…all the L has to do is tell its refs to T up flops (which some of us do, it being unsportsmanlike and the equivalent of taunting an official) or have them call a blocking foul on their ridiculousness. Have real contact actually knock some one down.
Same with the hack-a-shaq nonsense. Call the player for what he is doing, intentionally fouling someone without legitimately making a play on the ball. Give that player two and the ball back. Put the kabosh on that ish. Nice column Gee.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:43 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
WM I am down with that, that would totally cut that mess down right?!?!
bliz289 yea a lot of these rules are not in the street game.
It cracks me up when I got to ball places and they are calling back-court, 3 seconds, and flopping. I honestly think I would have to chillin on balling for a second if I was ever in a pick up game and a dude called foul and then went to the stripe like he was actually about to shoot.
Hahaha I think I may try it just to get a reaction out of dudes next time I play…as a joke of course. I am sure they gone be like dude what the hell you doing?
Imma be like 2 shots pimpin, respect the foul. LOL I’ll probably get cussed out or something till they realize I am joking.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:44 pm
BALLZ says:
Geetard, your writing style is very reminiscent of the hard-hitting, expose style of youtube sports anchor Kige Ramsey. Insightful, never afraid to take the story where others wouldn’t dare. If everyone would take a moment and head over to youtube and search for Kige Ramsey, you’ll see exactly what I mean. The two of you are like the new Costas and Schapp.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:49 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
control yea I don’t cuss in real life. I substitute letters and say ish. I went through phases where I cussed before and I real talk I didn’t like who I was becoming and especially working around kids I just quit. So things became letters like get the f outta here and ish. Corny I know but it works for GEE
sans I like what you got going with the hack-a-shaq.
What if the refs just no call at all on flops either way. If a dude is gone flop then just ignore the whole thing and let the balling continue. Now if someone gets hurt well that is legit, but just falling down and looking confused. Play through.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
NOBALLZ I think it was Craig Mac that said “My style is a style that’s not a style” I like to think of my writing more like that.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
doc says:
I dont like that rock n jock shit Gee.You should put a rule in that if T-Mac win 50 games he should be automatically put in the second round so when the real ballers getting it in in round 1.The tearing lazy eye bandit fans can talk about how he is not a pussy and he will be in the second round.
April 24th, 2008 at 12:58 pm
Juanito says:
Nice job GEE. I look forward to more of these Pass the Mics…just don’t let Celts Fan do one. We already have Bill Simmons out there to make us nauseous…
April 24th, 2008 at 12:59 pm
SunnyD says:
Ok…the only things I can really comment on deal with dress so…
1)Yes, to the longer shorts. Keep the package concealed please.
2)Every man looks better in a suit. If you’re ballin like that go ahead and show it pimpin!
On all the other “ish”…way to think outside the box, Gee!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
JDizzle says:
The two main things I would change would be the Playoff structure (best 16 teams regardless of conference), and the flopping (Derek Fisher and Ginobili are the worst offenders). As a Warriors fan, we really got screwed this year. Maybe the coaches challenge too. Does anyone remember the Lakers/Warriors game where Fisher pulled Monta Ellis to the floor right at the end of the game and the refs called Monta for the foul? It was awful Think of some of the Western conference teams that could have done some damage in the playoffs this year (Golden State, Portland…even Sacramento).
April 24th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
doc you lost me for a minute but ummmmmm ……………………………………………………………………….no.
LOL
Come on rock n jock (while that was enjoyable). So for real, those that oppose, you all don’t think a half court shot or beyond should be worth 4. I ain’t trying to go beyond that but again with someone guarding you that is hard to do, let alone do it without someone guarding you.
Plus it’s not like dudes are just going to be doing it on purpose. I like it and think it would work.
Shots like those deserve some type of credit besides a highlight on ESPN.
LOL @ the continuous Rock and Jock references.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:03 pm
Octopus Jonny says:
To those hatin on Dime for this, check how many replies there are to this post. I’d say this was a great idea that has already generated a ton of interest; numbers don’t lie.
GEE, big ups on getting this article.
I was just discussing the off the ball fouls the other day with some of the dudes and how bogus those are. Strategy? Come on, just play the game.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:05 pm
REE says:
I think they should lower the goals to 8 ft so playaz could do NBA Jam dunks.
I think players should wear doo-rags.
I think when a team is getting beat by 30 or more they should lower the 50 pt. basket.
I think the shot clock should be 10 seconds. That would make the game more exciting.
Players should be allowed to rock ipods during the game.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:07 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
SunnyD that is all I was doing was just going “outside the box” I guess I went way outside for some. LOL
JDizzle seriously I have seen so many plays since thinking of the idea that I was like, see that would be the perfect time for a coach challenge.
Yea longer shorts had to be one of the better things to hit the L.
Post 8 is hilarious!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:09 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
REE I did think about the shot clock being to long, but on second thought I figured it was straight. I was going to take it down 4 or 5 seconds, and speed the game up.
Doo-rags..good one lol.
Octo preshate it!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:19 pm
Willis says:
Gee some of those ideas are far out, like the 4 pt play thing, and I don’t really understand the reasoning behind extending the three point line. I mean NBA range is already pretty out there. Those are the only two I don’t like, so big ups for the rest of the column.
Also, Youngfed should never get a column, or anybody that says ‘first.’
April 24th, 2008 at 1:23 pm
Bust Jlaze says:
definitely some “out the box” type ish…especially the “celebrity game” 4-pointers!? Wow…you musta KNEW you would get heat for that one lol.
Good job tho man, keep up the good work!
April 24th, 2008 at 1:31 pm
aj says:
I haven’t read any of the other comments but you can’t just get rid of off-the-ball fouls.
A foul is a foul is a foul. How the deuce would you distinguish between Hack-a-bad free throw shooter and someone trying to bully a post player out of prime post position or a wing trying to stop Rip from beating him off a curl screen. Doesn’t make sense at all. If a team wants run up their fouls and put guys on the line, make the freebies.
Don’t say “oh, you’re a horrible free-throw shooter, so we’ll give you a break for being awful and not let the other team maximize your weakness.”
Much props for getting to speak your mind though.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:32 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
Bust Jlaze I knew heat was going to come regardless. I could have said bout anything and someone would have been telling me that’s crazy. So that is just what comes with territory.
Still the main thing is aren’t a lot of you all glad I ain’t Sterny hahahah. I am telling you my Association woud be tight though.
April 24th, 2008 at 1:37 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
aj that is one way to look at it. If you just gone foul people for the sake of fouling though, then why not throw the whole team at Shaq. What that is about 72 fouls or so? I promise you, your viewers and fan support will die. Also your players will become upset and coaches. Straight turmoil homey.
I do agree distinguishing may be difficult.
Something could and should be done though in my view. I guess you cool with it though.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:06 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
People I’d like to see columns from
Celts fan
Kobeef
K dizzle
Doc
Octopus
Bust jlaze
MOX-WCR
I like all these posters
April 24th, 2008 at 2:21 pm
foscheezeeee says:
GEE, I think they should make head coaches shoot the technical foul shots. That bring a different aspect to the game.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
foscheezeee lol you have brought up a question in my mind though. Has there ever been a player coach? In college I coached and played on an intramural basketball squad.
As for right now the only one who I think could be a player coach is prolly Avery and possibly Doc.
Wonder who is going to get a tech. toniught?
April 24th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
McLovin says:
4 pt shot – no
5 fouls – no, they play a 48 min ball game, 6 fouls = 8 min/foul. College is the same 40 min 5 fouls, 8 min/foul. You have to give them an extra foul cause they are going to play more min
who wears short shorts?
I think there should be less timeouts/half
April 24th, 2008 at 2:41 pm
JoĂŁo says:
Straight from Brazil :
The hackashaq is ridiculous, give the FT to Nash, like somebody said
4-pt is Antoine Walker dream !!
Keep shorts long, I dont want see dudes legs
I Like the challenge thing
The 5 fouls is compatible with 40 minutes FIBA game, 6 fouls is better for 48 minutes NBA game
And my suggestion would be the best 16 records go for 1×16 , 2×15 , 3×14 ,,, in the playoffs
Overall, good stuff GEE
April 24th, 2008 at 2:42 pm
nao_diga says:
Disagree on the flopping.
It’s the ref’s fault. If the defensive player doesn’t flop, the ref’s never call charging. And the flopper has to have position, or he’ll get called for blocking or it will be a no-call. It’s just too bad that he has to flop after working hard enough to get good position and draw contact in order to get the call.
The ref’s should be able to call the offensive foul without the flop, they just never do.
Without letting the defense hand-check, calling flopping would give too much advantage to the offense.
What should be done, and would be a simple change, would be to not have charging be a personal foul. It should just be a turnover, like traveling.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:50 pm
foscheezeeee says:
Avery gotta get a tech tomorrow. Throw a chair if you have to, but Dallas need some life in them. A lot of it has to do with CP3 though, he is playing outta his mind right now.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:57 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
nao I like that no personal foul, but just a turnover deal.
I really like that one.
Jo(don’t know how you got that a that way)o thanks and yea 4 pts would most def. be fat boy’s dream lol.
McLovin…is that you Greg Oden? LOL Nice breakdown on the minutes, didn’t think about that. I agree with less timeouts, but with a coach challenge I would be cool with the current number.
April 24th, 2008 at 2:59 pm
GEE...straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
foscheezeeee maybe he should try to do like G.K. and show them a video of Kimbo Slice lol. That has to be one of the weirdest tactics used to get players that don’t play NO D motivated.
I agree Avery needs to do something. They are playing worse than Houston to me. That is just Gee though.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
control says:
nao, it shouldn’t be an offensive foul unless you legitly knock a guy on his ass, hurt a guy or push off blatently. It’s just sad that kids playing in the 10-12 year old leagues are playing harder ball than most nba players.
I bet that 11 year old who was featured on this site (bebetterthanlebron.com) plays harder D than Manu. That kid would be giving Manu a stink eye and he’d hit the ground and lie there until he got a foul.
That shit has to be stopped, it cheapens the league in everyway.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Big Aaron says:
Good lookin’ out, Gee.
The coach’s challenge thing would be a great addition. It would certainly show which coaches just want someone else to blame when they fuck up and who actually knows the game.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:29 pm
ML says:
Good Post Dime. Good Job Gee.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
Reed Ewing Frazier says:
Look I’m on my grind cousin ain’t got no time for fronting sensitive thugs you all need hugs- Jay Z
Gee
I love that line it is perfect for internet gangsters(ITGs) but anyway I agree with everything except the 4pt, coach’s challenge and dress code. Somebody mention the best 16 instead of 8 from each conf I’m 50/50 on that because I think the league will swing back to the East in a couple of years I would go into detail but I’m at work keep it up I don’t always agree with some your comments on other blogs but anybody who can quote L.O.T.U.G and Outkast can’t be all that bad plus you make your point.
Bill Russell was a player/coach I don’t know if you was playing around but you had ask that quesion earlier.
Oh I almost forgot, control- calm down you are like angry man on “Martin” you the Madd Rapper of the blog just tell us why you mad sun I mean I got John Blaze ish too(lol)
April 24th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
fallinup says:
haha…good read, GEE! Nice to see dimemag giving back.
April 24th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
GayforRudy says:
#36…Control
your whole post had me rolling!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
GayforRudy says:
#36…Control
your whole post had me rolling!
April 24th, 2008 at 3:48 pm
control says:
Madd Rapper?
Well, since everyone is quoting:
I scrutinize every word, memorize every line
I spit it once, refuel, re-energize and rewind
I give sight to the blind, my insight through the mind
I exercise my right to express when I feel it’s time
It’s just all in your mind, what you interpret it as
I say to fight, you take it as I’mma whip someone’s ass
If you don’t understand, don’t even bother to ask
April 24th, 2008 at 3:58 pm
GEE..What goes up....Must come down..Not me clown! says:
Big Aaron thanks and I agree totally!
ML preshate!
R.E.F. what it do pimpin? Yea we don’t always agree, but then again I think weird as my wife says sometimes so many don’t agree with me often lol.
I was for real about the player/coach deal and yeaaa I had forgot about Bill Russell cause he sure did. Good looking out on that answer.
Nice Jay line too and yea that works for the keyboard thugs lol.
Seems like most don’t like the 4pt deal….I’m tellin yall it would be smooth. LOL
fallinup preshate it and yea DIME showed a young brotha love as Pac would say!
Aight nap time before I go to ball, I’ll holla at yall later tonight! For those I miss your love and hate is appreciated. Keep it 100!
…(mumbles to self) I am telling them the 4pt. ish would work…and the coach’s challenge…and the 5 se….
April 24th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
GEE..straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
Nice one control
April 24th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Celts Fan says:
“just don’t let Celts Fan do one. We already have Bill Simmons out there to make us nauseous…”
Juanito, I know a lot about basketball and wouldn’t even necessarily write one about the Celtics. Not to mention, you guys can call me a homer all you want, but my MVP list for the past 2 months hasn’t had KG any higher than 3rd (not to mention my skewering of the Patriots this morning responding to someone,) so relax. I am able to look at things reasonably and call out people on my team or another team, my man-crush on Rajon Rondo notwithstanding (though I see I have a few more takers on this Kool-Aid I’ve been sipping all season…)
later fellas, great job GEE!
April 24th, 2008 at 4:13 pm
control says:
Reed, I’m not always irrationally lashing out at people, though I do tend to direct my hate more towards Knick and Manu fans. Oh, and sometimes politcians. I’m open to the possibility of me being an asshole as well.
April 24th, 2008 at 4:44 pm
Reed Ewing Frazier says:
Knick’s Up Gee damn over 70 responses I still can’t get with the 4pt though but keep trying
control- Nice dart control I was just messing you with ya dunny because you actually had me defending Soulja Boy the other day(lol)I’m not a fan of his music(lol) do you man and since you explain you hate Knicks fans I will take it as a badge of honor. KNICKS UP all the rest down!!
April 24th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
control says:
Reed, you calling me a dummy and admitting to defending Soulja boy (who is a talentless piece of shit, if time travel is ever invented I will go kill his parents before he is born) in the same sentence is just pure irony
If you think of being a Knicks fan as a badge of honor…that’s cool. I also think Monica Lewinski also had something she considered a badge of honor as well…personally I think hers was better
April 24th, 2008 at 4:56 pm
McLovin says:
If I commented 21 times on my own article, I would have that many responses to…After last nights game, I hear JR smith now goes by the name of Mrs JR Bryant, buddy has to learn to shut up!
April 24th, 2008 at 5:31 pm
ML says:
Eh Gee What do you think about Yao’s Comeback Next Year? I know im off Topic. But what do you think he’s going to be doing? Will he stay Healhty? Will The Rockets get out of the 1st Round Since 1997? Will T-Mac Get traded? Will Yao Get Traded? Will Steve Francis be back Next year?
April 24th, 2008 at 5:55 pm
Chaos says:
Dime this is prolly one of the best things you could do for the site and GEE i know you been loyal man so i ommend you.
ya might be off on some of the things like the 4 point shot and extending the 3 point line because then you gonna see alot of percentages go down. the 5 sec rule…that would make true post players dominate the paint, and as much as i like to see player get tough down there, might be a little over the top.
The off the ball fouls is something that needs to be handled because it doesnt make sense if that player is in the actual play. i have seen it happen too many times where a player was on the opposite side of the court than the ball and he gets fouled. and yes this bullsh*t flopping needs to stop. i know american players may do it but europeans do it more than anyone else and its like they specifically train them to flop instead of teaching them to extend their hands and move their feet. how good of a defender would manu(no spurs hateration but thats bs)or okur(not to say he is a good one anyway) be if they outlawed flopping.
my biggest thing that needs to be addressed is how refs react to player reactions. plaers cant help but act negatively to some calls they have been getting. really. you cant stop rasheed, mamba or AI (especially AI) from being pissed off when they get hammered during the game
April 24th, 2008 at 6:57 pm
Nimit says:
First off, Gee..congrats dude..
good start…and to all you guys hating him…why dont u come up with a good column of your own with an idea of your own, then post it here…and lets see how many guys think its stupid..
Agree on the hand check and dress code…but shorts should really be upto the player itself…i mean…hes the one playing so whatever hes comfortable in…
obviously gotta get rid of the off the ball fouls…they disrupt the game and its just plain negative tactics
the five second rule?…not so sure…the intention is good…but 2-3 years down the line we could have a situation where any 7ft 320 lbs guy would just keep backing down and then score by over powering his opponent..no skill involved whatsoever
6 fouls gotta remain the same too…no1 would watch if the stars kept fouling out…NBA has to keep this rule just to make sure the stars play as much as possible
four point shot?…seriously that actually made me laugh..no offense and i get its completely your opinion…but ull have guys praticin that shot day and night….and make the league just cuz they can hit that shot!…i mean…whos gonna put a hand in some1s face out there…not to mention guys like arenas would just take that shot without blinkin!!…itd be dead funny though…
PS : Dime…love the out of the box thinking here…this might well end up being your most commented on article ever!!!
April 24th, 2008 at 7:13 pm
girllybballluver says:
Gee, nice job.
The first course of action. NBA playoffs for the 16 teams with the best record. Period!! So what if 12 of them are from the western conference.
Two: I’d make the playoff series the best of 5. (I’d leave the finals at 7 though) I think it would make them much more competitive. You’ve seen college ballers in March right? The definition of “win or go home.”
*But of course the league is a business and they’d lose out on money, so that would never really happen*
Three: I like the 4 point shot. But I think you have to amend the rule a bit or guys like arenas will jack ‘em up all game long. Kinda how the hack-a-shaq has to stop when there’s 2 minutes left. Those shots would only be worth 4 during the final 2 minutes of each quarter. If they make one before then it’s still 3 points. This way teams that are down can use the shot to catch up, or the team that’s up can extend the lead.
I love the coach’s challenge. remember that GS v LAL game towards the end of the season, when Fisher pulled Monta Ellis to the ground, and Ellis was called for the foul?…it would’ve really come in handy there.
Nice job, again Gee. Even more props if you actually read all this I’m writing. I think I gave this a little too much thought.
April 24th, 2008 at 7:20 pm
girllybballluver says:
I just read above that JDizzle brought up the same points on coaches challenge, and best 16.
Oh yea…extending the 3 point line…not a good look.
April 24th, 2008 at 8:45 pm
chaos says:
flopping = bitchassness
April 24th, 2008 at 9:18 pm
K Dizzle says:
Gee
Calderon and Ford want your all-star vote cuz the Magic got whooped. Time for the talkin heads to step back off their sweep predictions lol
April 24th, 2008 at 9:47 pm
GEE..straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
Ok I went and played ball, had a great two last games. The first couple…….Not so much lol. Still my squad only lost one of about 1 of about 5 the whole night.
Anyway Imma address everyone since I been gone.
Celts thanks and I already know if and when you get yo shot you would be fair to all squads pimpin.
R.E.F. give the 4pt thing time to sink in, just think of it as you watch these playoffs it will grow on you like fungus homey lol.
McLovin you actually took time to count how many times I responded to my own ish. Wow! I don’t know what to think ummmm exactly about that..kinda strange. Anyway yea I been trying to keep the flow going. I think even if you subtract my comments though it was still pretty good feedback and thanks to all on that.
ML next year Yao will stay healthy but not for an 82 game stretch …BUT ..he will be ready for playoffs. Tracy will stay, and they will finally get another scorer to help. No Steve Francis. Tracy will be healthy as well and yea 2nd round here the Rockets come! Wait I still feel they can make 2nd round this year! ….yall stop laughin!
Chaos preshate it. I feel you on the refs not being so quick to T dudes up. They do need to get a handle on that.
Nimit thanks! It’s funny most people call out Arenas on the 4pt deal. You really think he would be going for it like that? Prolly but I don’t know.
girllybballluver I did read all you wrote and that is only fair considering you read mine. I preshate the words girlly. I am all with you on the 16 team deal. I like switching the it to best of 5 to, dudes will really have to play hard. I like what you came with. Good one.
Finally K Dizzle hey I can’t even trip homey, Toronto did their thing. They gone have to tie the series up before I go changing my vote and all though. They came with it this time.
Aight, Rockets are on holla after we beat Utah!
…stop laughin I am for real lol.
April 24th, 2008 at 10:15 pm
1SKILLZ says:
if you have a 4-point line, then what will you do with backcourt violations? you would only have 8 seconds to shoot a 4!
April 25th, 2008 at 12:21 am
GEE..straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
No we would keep it as it. That’s right you only have 8 seconds to shoot it. I am not thinking of people designing plays and running plays in the backcourt.
April 25th, 2008 at 12:27 am
GEE..straight audacity & unmitigated gall says:
HELLO! IS THIS THING ON! “TAP TAP TAP” I SAID IS THIS THING ON!
Let me go copy and paste for a minute…..
“Aight, Rockets are on holla after we beat Utah!
…stop laughin I am for real lol.”
Was it Horton (Who heard the Whoo) that said “I said what I meant and I meant what I said. It might have been Popeye. Either way put yo brooms aways.
Forreal, and I can’t be convinced otherwise, the Rockets beat the Jazz tonight and the refs cause in watching the game, THE ROCKETS HAD SOME BOO BOO CALLS AGAINST THEM. Seriously between Okur and AK floppin and all, it was ridiculous. Even the announcer was talking about the free throw difference in the first quarter and half. They were just calling fouls for Houston players breathing hard.
Say what you want I am proud of T Mac and the whole team.
I will end how I started.
Houston up and DIME up!
Thanks to all who got down with me today and came in to speak their minds and thanks to DIME for putting me in the game!
Bout to celebrate….Woooooooooooo!
April 25th, 2008 at 4:59 am
kate says:
He missed the biggest change we need to make.What a pity,but he is still a great player in NBA.many fans talked about him on the forum on tall dating site:” T a l l c o n n e c t . c o m ” , seems it is a break news there.
April 25th, 2008 at 7:29 am
GEE...Until you do right by me... says:
kate??? Is this just trying to get people to go to the site?? Otherwise why didn’t you just let us know what was the biggest change that needs to be made?
Or you talking about McGrady?
Heads on here know I would never trade T-Mac.
April 25th, 2008 at 8:40 am
Nimit says:
Nice win rockets!!…i just love kyle landry’s game.!!
Gee…yup, i really do think Arenas would be going for that shot…lol, cant imagine him NOT going for that shot.
The one thing id love to see the most this postseason (other than KG celebrating his First title) is Nash getting past the Spurs. A lot of ppl have gone on about this..but these playoff’s might go a long way in shaping what ppl think of Nash’s legacy…He is their leader, no doubt about it. And his team just lost 2 games that they should have won.
April 25th, 2008 at 9:12 am
GEE...Until you do right by me... says:
I seen Nash on P.T.I. and he made a good point about getting adjusted with Shaq. Even if they don’t make it this year, next year I think they will be the front runners for real. Cause right now this whole Shaq thing still looks experimental rather than set in stone sometime.
Nimit if Arenas does that and misses, with the booing of the crowd and other teammates looking like “What the Hell?” I don’t know if he would be doing it a lot.
Course if he makes it…..ut oh.
I love Landry’s game too. Dude works hard!
April 25th, 2008 at 9:38 am
isotope says:
congrats fellow Clutch fan.
Houston up!
April 25th, 2008 at 9:50 am
GEE...Until you do right by me... says:
Iso preshate it!
Houston up!
April 25th, 2008 at 10:18 am
Kevin says:
I didn’t read all the comments, but I would say that:
There should be NO max to fouls.
The other team already benefits from a foul, that’s why there’s a bonus, so why punish players individually. Calling fouls is anything but an exact science so how bad is it then when guys get a few cheap fouls called on them and it changes the entire shape of the game because they have to be taken out.
Other rule changes: if a guy’s feet are moving BUT he takes a shoulder in the chest, it is an OFFENSIVE foul!!
Quick question: if they changed the rule so that a guy off the ball couldn’t be fouled, what would happen when he was? Ball out of bounds? Even in the bonus?
Last rule change: Add trampolines, contact, and a cage, and then take away goaltending, HAHAHA!
April 25th, 2008 at 11:33 am
GEE...Until you do right by me... says:
Kevin wow that first one I don’t know pimpin. Granted I hate ticky tack fouls too that change the complexion of a game. With a no max to fouls though, you will have no discipline to defense at all. Dudes will be going nuts.
I get your point but I think you have to have boundaries else the inmates run the asylum.
To your question I would say it would be the a whole new shot clock or something. Honestly I haven’t thought that far ahead….but keep the bonus.
Slamball Up!
April 25th, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Nimit says:
Gee..obviously Suns will get better next year, but do you really seeing them beat a laker team with Bynum,Gasol,Odom,Bryant in the starting 5 with either Fisher or Farmar?? especially after Bynum and Gasol get the offseason to get used to each other. and its not like Gasol’s gonna have any difficulty adjusting, dude’s a winner..look at him play for Spain and ull see…The lakers will KILL next season if they get Bynum back at his pre-injury level. They would have an all star as their 4th option(Odom) and a potential all star to round off the starting 5 (Farmar)..plus a bench with 6 players who can produce…
April 25th, 2008 at 4:33 pm
ML says:
Hey Gee thanks for responding to my Question Bruh. T-Mac Played out of his mind last night. Have a Good Week Gee.
April 25th, 2008 at 8:26 pm
GEE..Until you do right by me... says:
Nimit the Lakers are and will be running ish to me. Don’t get me wrong I think the Suns will be strong, but Shaq is on what 1 good leg prolly.
Meanwhile you know who is getting stronger and even more dominant. I most def. think the Lakers will be the team to beat as time goes on. West wise at least. I think the Suns will always be one step behind for a while.
ML no prob and yea T-Mac was real nice. People should really realize that dude is playing as an old man if you will. If T could have stayed healthy. Please know, you would be seeing some wonderful things.
Have a good week too! 1
April 26th, 2008 at 1:11 am
ML says:
Hey Gee Who do you think is in the Starting Lineup Next Year. My bad for asking you all of this Stuff. I went down to H-Town a few year’s back. And i thought it was a tight place to go.
April 26th, 2008 at 10:29 am
GEE..Everyone has a plan till they get punched in the mouf! says:
ML you straight homey! Ask away!
First game starting line up next year. Well of course depends on who they get during the summer. Free agents and all that go into it.
With who they currently have.
Skip
Tracy
Shane
Scola
Yao
Landry and Jackson coming off the bench.
In hoping for a miracle lol.
Baron Davis, Monta or Agent Zero
Tracy
Shane
Scola
Yao
Depending if they didn’t get traded:
Skip, Jackson, Landry and some decent back up center they drafted if Mutumbo retires.
Of course I am probably all wrong but we will see.
I don’t think Houston’s GM is the best, he really has to consider who he puts around Tracy and Yao in all facets and also how they work with Rick’s system.
Houston Up!
April 26th, 2008 at 1:15 pm
ML says:
Yeah Gee they should get a decent backup Center in this upcoming draft.
April 27th, 2008 at 2:09 pm
Gee...You just do you says:
Most def. one that can score some too so the defense will have to play Houston honestly too!
April 27th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
ML says:
Yup i got you. Hey did you see the game last night? Y’all played y’all ass off.
April 27th, 2008 at 6:58 pm
Gee...Be history or make history...so sick of that crap! says:
Yea hard game to lose, but they are really trying. Seriously you have to wonder about Utah, cause is this a situation where Houston is almost that good, or Utah is that bad in that Houston is in it every game for a chance to win?
Makes you wonder, but I am proud of the squad and the effort they are putting out.
Houston gets a good GM and McGrady is 2nd round and beyond possibly.
April 28th, 2008 at 5:09 pm
ML says:
Yeah Gee you hit it right on the head. For you guy’s to come back Game 5 is do or die. Im a Suns Fan. And We need to win Game 5 to. But Gee can you believe right know that the Eastern Conference 1st rounders are better then the West 1st rounders? Crazy Huh?
April 29th, 2008 at 3:09 pm
GEE...Self Destruction, ya headed fo Self Destruction! says:
That is real crazy. I thought the most all of the West would go to 7 and yea I need your Suns to go on and handle the Spurs. I don’t want a repeat champion. I guess the East picked the playoffs to really jump on it!
April 29th, 2008 at 3:54 pm
ML says:
Well Gee we win tonight. All the pressure is on the Spurs. Haha yeah East is finally doing something.
April 30th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
GEE...While you was in diapers wettin your sheets, I was at the Ponderosa rappin to the beat says:
Sorry bout the loss ML you all had some bad calls. Still freethrows hurt.
Friday is going to be fun for me. I am glad we pushed it to 6. 7?
I think things are a lot closer in the L East and West wise than the records indicate.
The finals will be something.
April 30th, 2008 at 7:34 pm
ML says:
Yeah they will Gee. I think you guy’s are going to push it to 7. Y’all played y’all ass off.
May 1st, 2008 at 1:19 pm
GEE...Get on the mic for the symphony! says:
ML fa sho! I am prepared and ready for this next game!
So who you think gone take it all?
May 1st, 2008 at 1:50 pm
ML says:
For the NBA Finals?
May 1st, 2008 at 2:55 pm
ML says:
Oh yeah free throws do hurt. Shaq went 9 for 20. That’s 45% percent.
May 2nd, 2008 at 2:38 pm
GEE...BREAKOUT! Before ya get bumrushed... says:
Yea for the Finals?
Dang 9 for 20. Wow, I think if he is going to really still try to have “that” impact he has to get the free throws together at this point.
May 2nd, 2008 at 3:32 pm
ML says:
Gee for the Finals I got The Lakers vs the Celtics. And the Lakers in 6. Gee if he still had it we would have won that game. He’s always been a terrible freethrow shooter. I don’t know how you miss a freeshot.
May 5th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
GEE...Well im imp da dimp the ladies pimp ... says:
Interesting I got the Lakers and Celtics as well and Boston in 7.
Yea it would have been a different ball game with Shaq hitting freethrows.
Funny story. An old skool cat has offered Shaq the promise he could help him shoot freethrows better if he just would let him teach him how to do it underhand (like a grandma). Of course Shaq (not wanting to be the laughing stock of the NBA) declined. I am thinking he should have taken it. Not only would it more than likely helped him, but also added to his legend as the dominant center who increased his freethrow precentage by going underhand.
Oh well I guess we will never know.
May 5th, 2008 at 5:32 pm
ML says:
Gee what’s up dude did you have a good week. But was that old school cat Rick Barry? And yeah he should have token the advice. I Remember when he was on the Lakers. 1 Year he shot like 62% percent. And back to the Boston Celtics was exposed big time. Atlanta outran them in every since. Boston is a good Squad. KG is 1 of my all time favorite players. Ray Allen is 1 of the most clutch players in NBA History. And Paul Pierce is just sick with it. I think they could win the Championship. But the Lakers have to many weapons. Kobe is a Beast whether you love him or hate him. Pau Gasol is a killer also. What he lack’s in strentgh he make’s up for in his Basketball IQ dude is smart.
May 12th, 2008 at 5:23 pm
GEE...This thing is bigger than Nino Brown. This is big business. says:
ML it’s been a minute! Weeks been straight. Hope the same your way. Shaq most def. should have tried the underhand shot. Would have been hilarious to see. I think it was Rick Barry.
So what do you think will be the main factor for the finals? I am going with injury. Whatever team can come in healthiest I think will have that much more of a better chance.