Comments on: The Wiz Love Caron

By: Celts Fan

Celts Fan — Fri, 02 May 2008 01:45:36 +0000

let’s be real here. Gil flipped a coin over whether or not to stay in GS, so I bet even he doesn’t know what he’s gonna do yet. Ironically enough, with GS supposedly very strongly considering trading BAron Davis, a return to the Warriors would be the best possible fit for him to do his thing.

By: Bust Jlaze

Bust Jlaze — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:14:01 +0000

Lemme edit that last joint:

I think the only reason the Wizards seem to be a better team now *without Gilbert* is because they’ve gotten so used to playing without him. Let’s not forget that they were right there with the Cavs, just a couple years ago. Then Arenas gets hurt, and the Wizards had to keep it moving without him. Now he’s back and it just doesn’t fit right now. They should roll without him until next year and everyone will be straight.

By: Bust Jlaze

Bust Jlaze — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:12:41 +0000

I think the only reason the Wizards seem to be a better team now is because they’ve gotten so used to playing without him. Let’s not forget that they were right there with the Cavs, just a couple years ago. Then Arenas gets hurt, and the Wizards had to keep it moving without him. Now he’s back and it just doesn’t fit right now. They should roll without him until next year and everyone will be straight.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:12:27 +0000

I don’t know ya’ll
Trade away agent Zero.
My man averaged 28 points a game at one time.
Dude can flat out score, he hit LA for 60 just last year,
him, caron and Jamison play very well off each other. I just don’t see it?
I know he doesn’t provide much besides scoring but still 28 points a game. 1.8 steals a game and 6 assist.
He did average almost 4 turnovers a game though. Those numbers are from last year.
Now let’s take a look at iverson’s numbers. 27.7 points, 2.3 steals and 6.3 assist with almost 4 turnovers a game.
Now the question is would you trade iverson from the nuggets?
Neither of them are very strong defenders. I just don’t see the logic in trading Agent 0 unless his knee doesn’t hold up.
Since he can opt out of his contract, I would let him, I would not give him some huge contract for the next 5 years for 14 mil or more or anything like that because of all of the knee problems he has had this year.
I would give him like a 1 or 2 year contract and if he didn’t accept that i would let him leave, because honestly right now he is a risk, and not even a calculated risk, because we just don’t know how that knee will hold up.

By: GEE...Get on the mic for the symphony!

GEE...Get on the mic for the symphony! — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:01:32 +0000

I ain’t saying let dude walk but at least trade and get some picks, cash or players for him.

With all that you state about him, he would be a valuable trade item then. Plus being that Washington is like a couple of decent players away from making real playoff noise, why not get missing parts for him.

Keep 1 great player considering you have 2 really goods vs. getting 2 other good players and letting that 1 great player (injury and erratic) go?

I trade.

By: Kobeef

Kobeef — Thu, 01 May 2008 18:00:34 +0000

Washington has enough scorers with Jamison, Butler and Stevenson. As someone said above a true playmaking PG (like Calderon) would probably be the best option for this team.

A three-way trade seems like the best solution here.
How about this:

Washington trades:
Agent 0 to Chicago
Songalia to Toronto

Chicago Trades:
Hinrich to Toronto
Gordon to Washington

Toronto (signs and) Trades:
Calderon to Washington
Ford to Chicago

In exchange for Ford and Calderon T.dot gets Songalia and Hinrich

In exchange for Gordon and Hinrich Chicago gets Gil and Ford (and starts Gil and Larry in the Backcourt)

In exchange for Songalia and Gil, Washington gets Calderon and Gordon and starts Calderon at PG

By: nbaroundtable

nbaroundtable — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:41:02 +0000

The Wizards have to keep Gilbert Arenas. He is by far their best player. They’re absolutely not a better team without Gil.

Everyone forgets this team was top of the (weakened) East before injuries hit them last season. They came nowhere close this year, barely playing above .500.

Everyone says their offense is better. That’s just plain wrong. They were the 5th most efficient offense in the league last season compared to 12th this season.

They say Gilbert is a ball hog, yet he scored 28.4ppg while Caron dropped 19ppg and Jamison dropped 20ppg. Without him those players averaged 20ppg and 21ppg respectively. That’s a huge jump right? C’mon! Gilbert left behind 28ppg and close to 20 shots a night. Where are they going?

What about the others? DeShawn Stevenson scored the exact same amount of points (after a late flurry, he was scoring less for most of the season) but shot almost 10% worse from the field. Songaila scored less. Daniels scored 1ppg and 1.2apg more in almost 10 extra minutes. Where’s the problem with him distributing the ball? There isn’t one.

He’s immature, his shot selection needs to improve and he isn’t a leader. He’s also 26 years old and precosiously talented. Give him time, he can still get the rest together. Even if he doesn’t, he’s the single best player and single best match winner the Wizards have or are likely to get in the forseeable future. Their future depends on his shoulders. They cannot let him walk.

By: doc

doc — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:30:45 +0000

If Gil would just accept deferring sometimes and not having to be the first option every play he would be cool.

By: Chuck

Chuck — Thu, 01 May 2008 17:15:33 +0000

I love Caron don’t get me wrong but lets check the stats, 05-06=75 games, 06-07=63 games, 07-08=58 games. Caron isn’t really that durable, teams are all about chemistry,Caron, Gil and Jamison have that chemistry. Will they win a Chip? Probably not, not with brendon Haywood in the middle.
Knee injuries can be hard to rebound from, but Kidd did it successfully, and that was microfracture surgery. So I hope Washington stays together and just adds the peices that they need, which I agree with Gee, a 5.
They may be able to get a suprise out of the draft or trade for one.
But Haywood won’t cut it. Etan Thomas had so much more heart than cupcake Haywood!

By: Dennis Castro

Dennis Castro — Thu, 01 May 2008 16:21:03 +0000

I always thought Calderon would be a PERFECT fit on this team.

A pass first PG that can break down the D and is completely team oriented.

I think Gil’s a great player, but it’s obvious the Wiz don’t need him to win. Caron’s a franchise player and Jamison is a more than capable #2 man.

The D’Antoni/Gil suggestion is very interesting. He would pretty much have the green light in that system, and if you get him a decent post player that draws attention, he’ll be able to fire away 3′s free willingly.