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		<title>By: Drew Wonder aka Optimus Dime</title>
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		<dc:creator>Drew Wonder aka Optimus Dime</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 14 Jun 2008 01:50:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>forget the celtic bandwagoners, check out all the ray allen bandwagoners. for reals i have never seen this much love for ray. LOL.

Why so much hate for Sasha?  Help was supposed to come on that play, but never came. Why hate for someone showing some passion for the game.  Some Lakers need more of it.


Lakers in 7
Lakers 4 lyfe
&quot;The Machine&quot; finals MVP</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>forget the celtic bandwagoners, check out all the ray allen bandwagoners. for reals i have never seen this much love for ray. LOL.</p>
<p>Why so much hate for Sasha?  Help was supposed to come on that play, but never came. Why hate for someone showing some passion for the game.  Some Lakers need more of it.</p>
<p>Lakers in 7<br />
Lakers 4 lyfe<br />
&#8220;The Machine&#8221; finals MVP</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 23:44:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Austin, I agree with what you said...although I think the coaching was a factor.  Perhaps not specifically in the game strategy in that particular game, but from the overall personality and outlook of the players from each team.  Doc&#039;s guys are in this together, regardless of how things are going they support each other, believe in each other, and go to battle with each other which is a reflection of the coach.  The Lakers on the other hand seem to be a bunch of individuals who are on the same team and their talent level has pushed them to this point but they lack the team chemistry and cohesiveness needed to get through adversity.  I think that begins with the coach setting the tone from day one of camp, and as most teams do, they take on the personality and attitude of the coach.
Doc may not be the best x&#039;s and o&#039;s guy, but his guys buy into him and with the combination of good talent and team chemistry he deserves credit for making them a &quot;team&quot;.

good point on holding leads, I would rather the Jazz be up by less than 10 until the last quarter because they seem to lose intensity and focus just like happened with the Lakers.  In a close game that tendency isn&#039;t there.  Why this year it&#039;s happening more, I have no answer.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Austin, I agree with what you said&#8230;although I think the coaching was a factor.  Perhaps not specifically in the game strategy in that particular game, but from the overall personality and outlook of the players from each team.  Doc&#8217;s guys are in this together, regardless of how things are going they support each other, believe in each other, and go to battle with each other which is a reflection of the coach.  The Lakers on the other hand seem to be a bunch of individuals who are on the same team and their talent level has pushed them to this point but they lack the team chemistry and cohesiveness needed to get through adversity.  I think that begins with the coach setting the tone from day one of camp, and as most teams do, they take on the personality and attitude of the coach.<br />
Doc may not be the best x&#8217;s and o&#8217;s guy, but his guys buy into him and with the combination of good talent and team chemistry he deserves credit for making them a &#8220;team&#8221;.</p>
<p>good point on holding leads, I would rather the Jazz be up by less than 10 until the last quarter because they seem to lose intensity and focus just like happened with the Lakers.  In a close game that tendency isn&#8217;t there.  Why this year it&#8217;s happening more, I have no answer.</p>
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		<title>By: fishinWdaSpurs</title>
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		<dc:creator>fishinWdaSpurs</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 21:28:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lets establish some FACTS:

1 Kobe is no MJ
2 This thing is over
3 Having one 20 point game does not make you &quot;the machine&quot;
4 Riding on Shaq&#039;s coat is much easier than earning your own ring, isn&#039;t it?
5. Gasol = Double ply, LO = Single ply</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Lets establish some FACTS:</p>
<p>1 Kobe is no MJ<br />
2 This thing is over<br />
3 Having one 20 point game does not make you &#8220;the machine&#8221;<br />
4 Riding on Shaq&#8217;s coat is much easier than earning your own ring, isn&#8217;t it?<br />
5. Gasol = Double ply, LO = Single ply</p>
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		<title>By: K Dizzle - Lakers since 82, You think I'm jumpin off now?</title>
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		<dc:creator>K Dizzle - Lakers since 82, You think I'm jumpin off now?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 20:36:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ Austin Burton

Bynum&#039;ll be alright. Like I said yesterday, he&#039;s the same age as Oden who had a way more serious knee injury but has 3 years experience. A dislocated kneecap ain&#039;t as serious an injury as microfracture surgery. He&#039;s only had a half good season, but that good half season put him into the top 5-8 centers in the l imo. He&#039;s 20 and I wouldn&#039;t be upset if the team held him out as a precaution cuz the team was rollin so good after we got Gasol.

Dave
I was watchin the game last night thinkin the worse thing was that 20 point lead after one quarter cuz we haven&#039;t seen one team sustain that throughout a game. The Spurs couldn&#039;t, the Jazz couldn&#039;t, the Celtics couldn&#039;t, the Magic couldn&#039;t, and the Lakers didn&#039;t last night. This the first playoff year I remember seein where teams got big leads and couldn&#039;t maintain.I feel like coaches get too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when they lose. I said it yesterday: When the celts lock down a team, Tom T gets the love, but when Ray Allen gets lit up by Kobe, it&#039;s Doc&#039;s fault. Just twisted. I don&#039;t like Phil Jackson either. I feel like you give me Mike and Scottie or Kobe and Shaq, I better have a handful of rings. He&#039;s gotten a pass because of that but I gotta support cuz he seems to know what he&#039;s doin even he does come across as a arrogant prick 9 days outta 10. Last night wasn&#039;t about the coachin, it was the players. PP and KG kept pluggin, Ray kept them in and Posey and House provided big support. I don&#039;t know why Lamar and Fish were ridin pine for a long stretch in the second half, but when Pau and Lamar disappear and Kobe shoots 5-20 or whatever, nuthin a coach can do. Those are your stars and if they don&#039;t play basketball on a base level, then that&#039;s the ballgame. Kobe wants it, but KG , Ray and Pierce look like they need it. I just hope we play like we can at home on sunday. Don&#039;t want them celebratin on our home court.

@ Sam I Am - You laughin at me? That&#039;s comedy. Read your name again. That&#039;s called coat tailin for a chip, but thanks for the well thought-out contribution. &quot;New&quot; celtic fans are funny cuz I know you&#039;ll be reppin a new team in 2 years</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ Austin Burton</p>
<p>Bynum&#8217;ll be alright. Like I said yesterday, he&#8217;s the same age as Oden who had a way more serious knee injury but has 3 years experience. A dislocated kneecap ain&#8217;t as serious an injury as microfracture surgery. He&#8217;s only had a half good season, but that good half season put him into the top 5-8 centers in the l imo. He&#8217;s 20 and I wouldn&#8217;t be upset if the team held him out as a precaution cuz the team was rollin so good after we got Gasol.</p>
<p>Dave<br />
I was watchin the game last night thinkin the worse thing was that 20 point lead after one quarter cuz we haven&#8217;t seen one team sustain that throughout a game. The Spurs couldn&#8217;t, the Jazz couldn&#8217;t, the Celtics couldn&#8217;t, the Magic couldn&#8217;t, and the Lakers didn&#8217;t last night. This the first playoff year I remember seein where teams got big leads and couldn&#8217;t maintain.I feel like coaches get too much credit when the team wins and too much blame when they lose. I said it yesterday: When the celts lock down a team, Tom T gets the love, but when Ray Allen gets lit up by Kobe, it&#8217;s Doc&#8217;s fault. Just twisted. I don&#8217;t like Phil Jackson either. I feel like you give me Mike and Scottie or Kobe and Shaq, I better have a handful of rings. He&#8217;s gotten a pass because of that but I gotta support cuz he seems to know what he&#8217;s doin even he does come across as a arrogant prick 9 days outta 10. Last night wasn&#8217;t about the coachin, it was the players. PP and KG kept pluggin, Ray kept them in and Posey and House provided big support. I don&#8217;t know why Lamar and Fish were ridin pine for a long stretch in the second half, but when Pau and Lamar disappear and Kobe shoots 5-20 or whatever, nuthin a coach can do. Those are your stars and if they don&#8217;t play basketball on a base level, then that&#8217;s the ballgame. Kobe wants it, but KG , Ray and Pierce look like they need it. I just hope we play like we can at home on sunday. Don&#8217;t want them celebratin on our home court.</p>
<p>@ Sam I Am &#8211; You laughin at me? That&#8217;s comedy. Read your name again. That&#8217;s called coat tailin for a chip, but thanks for the well thought-out contribution. &#8220;New&#8221; celtic fans are funny cuz I know you&#8217;ll be reppin a new team in 2 years</p>
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		<title>By: godfreyallstar</title>
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		<dc:creator>godfreyallstar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:45:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kb24!, your claims here are simply ridiculous. Yes, LA is gonna win two games in Boston with their sorry pussy asses. And Kobe will finally surpass jordan as the GOAT. Then Pau Gasol is gonna grow some nuts and eventually carve out a career better than Tim Duncan&#039;s. And someone is gonna come into the league with bigger and goofier ears than jordan farmar. Vladimir radmanovic is gonna become a premier defender, and Luke Walton is gonna show that he is in the NBA for reasons other than the fact that his dad is Bill Walton. And as the result of this the lakers are gonna win 8 straight championships to close out Kobe&#039;s career.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kb24!, your claims here are simply ridiculous. Yes, LA is gonna win two games in Boston with their sorry pussy asses. And Kobe will finally surpass jordan as the GOAT. Then Pau Gasol is gonna grow some nuts and eventually carve out a career better than Tim Duncan&#8217;s. And someone is gonna come into the league with bigger and goofier ears than jordan farmar. Vladimir radmanovic is gonna become a premier defender, and Luke Walton is gonna show that he is in the NBA for reasons other than the fact that his dad is Bill Walton. And as the result of this the lakers are gonna win 8 straight championships to close out Kobe&#8217;s career.</p>
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		<title>By: DaPro</title>
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		<dc:creator>DaPro</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:38:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Never realyl been a fan of either team but I&#039;ve always liked KG and Ray Allen is one of my all time favorite players to watch ball. 

Having said that- Ray has been the most consistent player during the finals, Paul has been the closer, and KG has been effective on d although his offense has been shaky at times 

Lakers look scared at times even Kobe. He wants to close out the game but truthfully the Celtic defense has been so focused on him that he hasn&#039;t realized or figured out what to do 

Phil has been outcoached this series but even more so the Lakers have been outplayed and out hustled. They can&#039;t sustain the level of energy, focus, and determination it takes to will themselves to victory 

Like I said in the last 100+ post, Celts in 6 , Lakers take two at home-Games 3 and 5 Celts close out at home</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Never realyl been a fan of either team but I&#8217;ve always liked KG and Ray Allen is one of my all time favorite players to watch ball. </p>
<p>Having said that- Ray has been the most consistent player during the finals, Paul has been the closer, and KG has been effective on d although his offense has been shaky at times </p>
<p>Lakers look scared at times even Kobe. He wants to close out the game but truthfully the Celtic defense has been so focused on him that he hasn&#8217;t realized or figured out what to do </p>
<p>Phil has been outcoached this series but even more so the Lakers have been outplayed and out hustled. They can&#8217;t sustain the level of energy, focus, and determination it takes to will themselves to victory </p>
<p>Like I said in the last 100+ post, Celts in 6 , Lakers take two at home-Games 3 and 5 Celts close out at home</p>
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		<title>By: rell</title>
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		<dc:creator>rell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 19:08:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@dh

That&#039;s a hard question because based on potential, Odom has the talent to be a top 15 player in the NBA.  However, he do not have the mindset to do it.  Also, K.G. should destroy the Lakers in the post but he refuse to post unless Doc makes him.

With that said, I think the Celtics would win.  They have 3 potential 20+ scorers and can play defense. The Lakers have a good offense but defense is suspect.  The Lakers would have a harder time scoring against the Celtics compare to the Celtics scoring against the Lakers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@dh</p>
<p>That&#8217;s a hard question because based on potential, Odom has the talent to be a top 15 player in the NBA.  However, he do not have the mindset to do it.  Also, K.G. should destroy the Lakers in the post but he refuse to post unless Doc makes him.</p>
<p>With that said, I think the Celtics would win.  They have 3 potential 20+ scorers and can play defense. The Lakers have a good offense but defense is suspect.  The Lakers would have a harder time scoring against the Celtics compare to the Celtics scoring against the Lakers.</p>
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		<title>By: rell</title>
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		<dc:creator>rell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:57:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When the game first started, boy the Celtics came out ugly. I was in shocked and couldn&#039;t believe Pierce and KG was going to play this bad again. Then when KG went to bench with the early 2, I almost lost all hope.  I started to gain some hope and the end of the 2nd but everytime Boston cut the lead, the Celtics do something to give it right back.  Cassell, or like Bill Simmons call him The Mole, come in and make a turnover or jack-up stupid shots, the offensive fouls, or the Farmer 3 at the end of the half could have buried the Celtics.  I knew Boston would make a run in the 3rd because they have been doing it throughout the season. But I didn&#039;t think they would have the poise to win it in the 4th. Man I&#039;m glad I was wrong.

I can&#039;t believe DOC outcoached Phil. I mean DOC Rivers. When Perks went out I was screaming at the tv put Powe in, we are going to get killed on the board with the small lineup.  That small lineup just won the Celtics the game and potentially the NBA championship.

1 more win and that&#039;s it Boston. Man I hope the Celtics end this in game 5. Even though he struggled, I don&#039;t want to go against a angry Kobe with momentum on his side. Like Phil said momentum is a strange lady.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When the game first started, boy the Celtics came out ugly. I was in shocked and couldn&#8217;t believe Pierce and KG was going to play this bad again. Then when KG went to bench with the early 2, I almost lost all hope.  I started to gain some hope and the end of the 2nd but everytime Boston cut the lead, the Celtics do something to give it right back.  Cassell, or like Bill Simmons call him The Mole, come in and make a turnover or jack-up stupid shots, the offensive fouls, or the Farmer 3 at the end of the half could have buried the Celtics.  I knew Boston would make a run in the 3rd because they have been doing it throughout the season. But I didn&#8217;t think they would have the poise to win it in the 4th. Man I&#8217;m glad I was wrong.</p>
<p>I can&#8217;t believe DOC outcoached Phil. I mean DOC Rivers. When Perks went out I was screaming at the tv put Powe in, we are going to get killed on the board with the small lineup.  That small lineup just won the Celtics the game and potentially the NBA championship.</p>
<p>1 more win and that&#8217;s it Boston. Man I hope the Celtics end this in game 5. Even though he struggled, I don&#8217;t want to go against a angry Kobe with momentum on his side. Like Phil said momentum is a strange lady.</p>
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		<title>By: dh</title>
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		<dc:creator>dh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>QUESTION FOR DIME, 

When the Lakers play their best basketball (ex. 1st half of game 4) and the Celtics play their best (ex. 2nd half of game 4), who do you think is the better team? 

I guess the simple answer is that the better team will sustain their great level of play for a longer period. Which, so far has been the Celtics.

But for hypothetical fun, let&#039;s assume that both teams are absolutely playing to their potential for the whole game... Who wins?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>QUESTION FOR DIME, </p>
<p>When the Lakers play their best basketball (ex. 1st half of game 4) and the Celtics play their best (ex. 2nd half of game 4), who do you think is the better team? </p>
<p>I guess the simple answer is that the better team will sustain their great level of play for a longer period. Which, so far has been the Celtics.</p>
<p>But for hypothetical fun, let&#8217;s assume that both teams are absolutely playing to their potential for the whole game&#8230; Who wins?</p>
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		<title>By: Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Jun 2008 18:54:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee....I have to disagree on the all-star game.  I think it would turn into something where only some of the players show up (NFL Pro-Bowl) and it wouldn&#039;t pull ratings like it does mid-season.
I&#039;d rather see more coverage of the International and summer league tournaments during the off-season.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee&#8230;.I have to disagree on the all-star game.  I think it would turn into something where only some of the players show up (NFL Pro-Bowl) and it wouldn&#8217;t pull ratings like it does mid-season.<br />
I&#8217;d rather see more coverage of the International and summer league tournaments during the off-season.</p>
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