NBA Draft Projections – How will we rank them down the line?
How good will O.J. be?Recently we’ve taken some trips down memory lane, and using our 20/20 hindsight, have reselected the 1995 Draft, 1996 Draft, the 2004 Draft, and the 2006 Draft. With this year’s draft coming up on Thursday at 7 PM (ESPN), we’re flipping it up and looking forward to when these rookies’ contracts will be done and some are signing max deals while others are on Gerald Green’s heels and are on their way out of the League.
1 – Derrick Rose, PG – The most important thing for a point guard in the NBA is the ability to play point guard, not how fast he can shuttle around some cones. Rose will be among the best because of his strong instincts, not because of his workout numbers.
2 – Michael Beasley, SF/PF – He averages 17/10. The only thing stopping him from gaudier numbers is himself.
3 – Joe Alexander, SF – I’m not saying it to cause an uproar. With a watery jumper and show-stopping physical tools, he’s a poor man’s T-Mac.
4 – Eric Gordon, SG – Jay Bilas had a great quote about Beasley on ESPN yesterday. It was something like: “Don’t judge a player by his measurements. Judge him by how big he plays.” Gordon is listed at 6-2, but with his stocky build and 40-inch vertical he plays like he’s 6-5. Plus, he’s coming into this draft with a yacht-sized chip on his shoulder.
5 – Danilo Gallinari, SF/PF – You know how Dirk bucks like a bronco when he really wants to get to the rack? Gallinari does that every time he puts his head down and drives.
6 – Jerryd Bayless, PG/SG – He wants the No. 1 ranking in this as badly as anyone. And he’s willing to work for it. He’s from Arizona, he wore No. 0 – the Gilbert comparisons would come eventually.
7 – D.J. White, PF – The Carlos Boozer of this draft. I’m not saying that he’s going to be Carlos Boozer, but he’s going to be an impact power forward who dropped to the second round because he’s supposedly undersized, a little too stocky, and an average athlete. With his NBA-ready baby hook, he’ll prove his worth in no time.
8 – Jason Thompson, PF – It should be Thompson, not Anthony Randolph who is hanging around the back end of the lottery. He’s averaged 20/10 for the last two years in college, and has all the intangibles NBA teams drool over: he’s a high character guy, a hard worker, and plays with a never-ending motor.
9 – O.J. Mayo, PG/SG – O.J. isn’t a shooting guard. And after watching him in college turn the ball over half of the time, you’d say that he isn’t a point either. But in the NBA’s pick-and-roll schemes, his basketball IQ and polished skill set will set him up for success.
10 – Brandon Rush, SG/SF – He’s the sixth man on a playoff team. Providing energy, a consistent jumper, defensive toughness, and a winning mentality, Rush will make the biggest splash of anyone in his family in the League.
11 – Kevin Love, PF – He’ll rebound and he’ll score when he gets good, deep position on the block at the next level. Problem is, that’s all he’ll do.
12 – Chris Douglas-Roberts, SG/SF – He hasn’t been great in workouts against his peers. As long as he finds an open-floor system that allows him to go one-on-one, he’ll shine.
13 – Darrell Arthur, PF – A good role player, but he doesn’t have the mean streak needed to be an outstanding rebounder. The one thing is that his jumper is good enough to draw comparisons to LaMarcus Aldridge.
14 – Russell Westbrook, PG/SG – The most important thing for a point guard in the NBA is the ability to play point guard, not how fast he can shuttle around some cones. While Rose knows the position, Westbrook only has the physical tools to play it.
15 – Brook Lopez, C – A pommel horse.
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June 25th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Junio says:
Future possibly underrated on the list: Darrell Arthur, and slightly on Mayo, I think the could be a star scorer/defender on the League, think Wade with less O and more D.
Overrated: Bayless, I just don’t dig this guy….
Liked the Alexander, Rush, Love and CDR places.
Scared with Westbrook….Seattle possibly got him #4 on the board, possibly making him the choice….and I don’t know if will be a good pro.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:09 am
Junio says:
Hey, a couple more posts and I deserve a column just like Gee…..LOL
June 25th, 2008 at 11:17 am
Junio says:
Hey Dime, what about an Olympic coverage from a Brazilian fan? Heck, I don’t even know if my team will be there… Anyway, waht about?
June 25th, 2008 at 11:24 am
MoxWestCoastRep says:
The Bruin boys are drastically underestimated.
Westbrook may be raw, but he shut Mayo down, I mean OJ wanted NOTHING to do with Westbrook when they went head to head. He has improved drastically with good coaching and will continue to get better.
And K-Love is more athletic than people think…he’s going to be a solid 4 in the league.
Otherwise, like the list. Westbrook at 5 and Love at 7.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:26 am
MoxWestCoastRep says:
JaVale McGee could be a dominant defensive player one day a la ZO, but thats a big if b/c the guy is so immature. He could also Gerald Green himself. We’ll see
June 25th, 2008 at 11:31 am
E-ROC says:
Joe Alexander is going to be scary. Hardworker who can play at both ends of the floor. Already has a midrange game. Yikes!
June 25th, 2008 at 11:50 am
DaPro says:
Couple of things I’ve read from ESPN and Dime
Joe Alexander is beast in workouts- SO WHY hasn’t this translated to in game performace??? I keep hearing he doesn’t have a high bball IQ (Neither does Gerald Green)
Russell Westbrook- Standout athlete of the draft- Drawing comparions to Rondo. From what I saw of Rondo, defensively yes, ballhandling no, jumper (both inconsistent)
Mayo is a playmaker (mostly for himself) no way you play him at point unless you have a legit two guard who can alternate and make plays-i,e Dwade
Mayo also plays D
June 25th, 2008 at 11:58 am
D says:
Yeah, Joe Alexander’s stock is insanely high right now. Unfortunately 2-3 guys aren’t as covetted as the 1s and 4-5s. The dude is gonna be sick. He’s strong, can jump, and can stroke it. Praying the Kings get a stab at him, even though we have an abundance of 2/3 guys
June 25th, 2008 at 11:58 am
Kobeef says:
Looking 5 years down the road I think we’ll look back and rank this draft like this:
1. Beasley – If Beasley can play SF he will be Josh Smith with a better jump shot. Just like JSmoove he will fall in love with his own hype…and win the Dunk contest. If he gets stuck into playing PF he will have trouble because yeah – his size is not ideal for PF.
2. Derrick Rose will be one of the top 5 PG’s in the league for his career. A J’Kidd-DWade hybrid…but note that neither of those two can make a three. Chris Paul is going to get eaten alive by Rose.
3. Maresse Speights – Al Jefferson but much more athletic. The kid is a low-post monster with a nice jump-shot
4. DeAndre Jordan – Remember Andrew Bynum in his rookie year? Useless. Jordan was better than Bynum in his College rookie year and could be a top 5 C in the NBA. He is a better athlete than Bynum. Maybe Kareem can work with D. Jordan.
5. Brandon Rush – This kid does everything you want from a SG at an elite level and has the perfect build for an NBA 2. Passes, shoots, plays D, slashes. Easily Josh Howard.
6. OJ Mayo will easily be Jamal Crawford/brandon Roy type player (slightly underized SG with great skills). The kid has a bad rap but the truth is that he is smart as hell and has been learning how to live in the public eye since he was 10.
7. Brook Lopez – Have you ever seen Tim Duncan’s hops? Exactly. You don’t need a 40 inch vertical to be a great low-post player in the NBA. Lopez will have Chris Kaman type numbers.
8. Serge Ibaka – A truly elite athlete (think Rudy Gay) with solid BBall skills. Needs a good coach to make the transition but his ceiling is Amare.
Bayless, Gordon, Westbrook will be serviceable combo-guards but not stars.
Joe Alexander is T-Mac? That is laughable. Have you seen Joe A dribble? Shoot a three?
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June 25th, 2008 at 12:50 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
Agree about Alexander. Disagree about Rose, Beasley,and Love. First off, Rose is an excellent athlete and player but his passing skills are nowhere near the level of Chris Paul and Deron Williams. He will not be quite as good as people think.
Beasley measured at 6’8″, like many PFs, and is a rebounding beast. He will put up better numbers than 17/10.
Love will prove a lot of people wrong. I’m sick of all the comparisons to white stiff busts. He is way more talented and athletic than any of those players.
June 25th, 2008 at 12:51 pm
aaron says:
I must be the only person not that high on Rose. Guys that play only at 100% struggle in the league. They compare him to cp3 and Williams but those guys know how to control a game at all speeds. Jason White Chocolate ran at 100% too…he’s not that good. Ok I think Rose is better than Williams, its just a comparison of the speed at which they play.
Did you already or when will you look at possible second round guys that could cause some trouble. DJ White, JR Giddens these guys could be in the league for awhile.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:27 pm
Michael says:
How has OJ Mayo become so underated. It’s ridiculous. He is thwe best player in the draft at creating his own shot, he can pass, and he’s a good defensive player.
June 25th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
jack says:
who cares, i just want to watch good match.a friend said that on tall dating site ____Tallmingle.com____,which is a dating site for all tall friends and tall singles,especially models and basketball players.
June 25th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
Why is everyone hyping alexander so much when he has done nothing in his career outside of a few youtube clips? On another forum some kid said he had rookie vince carter potential and now your saying poor mans tmac? try poor mans chase budinger and even he wouldnt cut it in the nba.
Love at BEST is brad miller, which isn’t saying much let alone top 5 pick worthy. At worst hes bryants reeves. He gets the white stiff bust comparison because umm…the shoe fits? hes not even really a average athlete, hes slow down the court and isnt really a imposing figure. He throws a mean outlet pass but couldnt keep up with athletic college centers let alone pro, that not really going to bust him out of the white stiff mold.
I agree rose isn’t on pauls level, I could see him holding his own against deron williams though since willaims has issues with faster guards.
Maresse Speights as al jefferson is laughable. Al jefferson averaged 40 a game in high school and has post game. Speights is a big guy who dunks alot and has MAYBE one post move, not to mention they say low basketball IQ.
And of course Deandre did better than bynum, bynum didnt go to college so hes gonna be ass in teh pros. Jordan was ass in college for the most part. He shoulda did like patrick patterson and just sat back for another year.
As a pro I think mayo will be good but as a basketball player I think he’ll be a bitch. Kinda in a marburby “i can get mine, who cares what the record is” mold. Got the talent but does he have the head for the nba. Your right, hes been taught about bein in the public eye since he was 10 and yet 90% of his press is bad press.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:17 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
Bron42,
So all big white guys with athleticism issues are created equal? That’s like saying all black guys with 42′ verticals are the same. Love is way, way more talented than most anyone he’s been compared to, and don’t forget he’s only 19. His lack of athleticism is also greatly exaggerated. He tested very well in that area in the pre-draft camp.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:35 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
First off, no..secondly 90% of guys black guys with hops do get considered the same…thats why anyone who can dunk and is 6’5 is the next jordan. Love isn’t WAYYY more talented, which is why he didn’t really dominate this year. His style of play is similar to those white guys, not just that hesn ot athletic. Brad miller, Slow white guy who can shoot and pass. Kevin love, slow white guy who can shoot and pass. Neither is a big time defender, neither will put 40 on you, neither will give you many 20-20 games. So the comparison is VERY fair. People complained just as much about spencer hawes gettin a bad rap and then he proved to be another big stiff. Love is a smart player but he wasn’t beasting guys. And no, look at the combine results. He tested “better than expected” but don’t get it twisted like hes chris andersen or some legit athletic threat. Hes 6’10 and can dunk 2 handed, hes not gonna really take off on anyone or poster anyone. Alexander is a athletic white guy, Love is a fundamentally sound Stiff. people said andrew bogut was athletic too ya kno lol greatly exaggerated? anyone who has seen him play says it and I’ve seen him play in person and during workouts. Gettin beat down court doesnt like and isnt exaggerated. Hes not fast or athletic, he wasnt even fast by high school standards. Is he roy hibbert when it comes to turtle speed? no, but hes not flying up and down the court either. Lopez is a big stiff too and hes spanish, so it has nothing to do with white,black, purple…If you fit the mold of someone, then you get compared to them. Its up to him to prove them wrong although I doubt it.
June 25th, 2008 at 4:37 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
also, running tests around cones doenst mean shit considering guys spent the last 2 months training in those exact drills with pro trainers. So even if he set the best time at the combine, people arent suddenly gonna consider him an elite athlete when he shows no athletic ability during games. Thats like running a 4.14 40 yard dash in football but being terrible during games.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:01 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
First off I never claimed Love was super-athletic just that his lack of athleticism was exaggerated. Second I wasn’t necessarily talking about the Brad Miller comparisons, more along the Big Country comparisons. If he has a career like Brad Miller(but hopefully productive for a longer period of time) I think anyone would consider that a success. At his peak Miller was an outstanding center. And btw Andrew Bogut is no stiff.
June 25th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
like i said, you cant exaggerate what EVERYONE sees. You can’t exaggarate game tape EVERYONE can watch. You can’t exaggerate other less talented but more athletic centers (joey dorsey) exposing how unathletic he is. So yes, at BEST hes a average athlete. And also, i said at best hes Brad miller which isn’t saying much since brad miller is a role player and not someone you build a team around and barely allstar worthy in his own right. At WORST big country due to the fact Love even came to the draft combine with high body fat %, was never considered a physical specimen in college and is pretty much a big body but again not a above average athlete. Thats like sayin at best DJ white is Paul Milsap at worst oliver Tractor traylor. Also, lets say love becomes a 2000 version of brad miller. If you select him in the top 10 and thats ALLL he becomes on a bad team? thats a crap pic to me. Top 10 pics are either A)franchise players hopefully B) the missing piece to a ok team and makes them a good team. Miller was never outstanding. He was never a top notch center. At best he adequate. And btw, Bogut is a stiff, which is why people say even at the level hes at now, he didn’t deserve #1. Another, average athletic guy who you couldnt build a team around and the team isn’t really any better with him yet they used a #1 pick on him. Not a big scoring threat, not a defensive presense, not a rebounding machine. Hes just a hold over until they get another high pick and a good center is around.
June 25th, 2008 at 6:16 pm
frankie says:
john, I guess you haven’t been reading this board for very long. Bron stops in to post when someone writes something positive about a non-black player. Yao, Dirk, Nash, and now Alexander and Love. Note also that the best thing he has to say about even a black guy on this list (rose) is that he could “maybe” keep up with a good point guard. Other than that it’s all just hate. Hate hate hate. Bron, if you think you know something about basketball, why don’t you go out on a limb and say something NICE about someone once in a while? Unless you think that the entire draft class after Beasley is going to be garbage, that is.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:25 pm
doc says:
Mayo is to low.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:33 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
wtf are you talkin about lol I named like 6 guys, 2 were white and suddenly i’m only hating on white guys? Is OJ mayo not black? Is Deandre Jordan not white? Roy Hibbert? Vince Carter? Kobe? Those are all black guys and I’ve commented on them too. Obviously YOU don’t pay attention to this board for that long since I’ve commented on black and white players and given praise just as much as hate. Just because I don’t praise guys you like, doenst mean anything. Yao,Dirk and Nash are chokers who havn’t proven much when it counts. Wouldnt matter if they were black or not. Read more posts before you comment on me. Also, basketball isn’t about bein nice and kissin everyones ass..Commenting on peoples flaws is being real and honest, not a homer who acts like their fav player is a god send and does nothing wrong. AND the draft class is 60 pics, so me naming about 7 guys I don’t like isn’t saying the draft class is garbage. I didn’t kno I had to kiss guys asses to get your approval. Do we KNOW rose will keep up with paul or willaims? no so it would be dumb to say he would kill them like some people here have done. Plus i think both of those guys are above “a good point guard” level so sayin rose MIGHT keep up with them isn’t really hate. So here, I’ll make you happy. BEasly will be a beast, Rose is good, CDR is gonna be the julian wright of this draft if he finds the right system, Kevin Love is the second coming of george mikan…there, happy? whole sentence of ass kissin for ya. Learn to understand criticism isn’t always a terrible thing and none of the stuff i said hasnt been said before so get off my nuts.
June 25th, 2008 at 7:35 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
I love how by sayin a guy isn’t atheltic, i’m hatin on him lol like its a fuckin secret or something. Love is ok, but #3? with a ceiling of Brad Miller? even darko is sayin wtf
June 25th, 2008 at 8:42 pm
todd says:
Rose is a bit of overrated, his vision and awareness is not CP3 or D-Will level. Beasley will come out as the best player in this draft class. He’s the most talented guy in this draft, able to score at will and crash the boards. People question his immaturity, but I don’t think it will be a probem. I project him as a bit of Carmelo/Dirk type of player.
Gordon will be a bust. He’s undersized and depends on bulling past players when he drives. I’m smelling a potential bust, not the # 4 guy in this draft.
Westbrook is a bit overrated, yes, but there is no questioning his defense and his potential. One of the most underrated things about JKidd back in his NJ days was his defense which completely changed the complexion of the game. Westbrook can be that guy. With experience and an improved jumpshot, I think Westbrook can become a very very good player in this league.
Mayo won’t be the # 9 player down the road. I watched him in college and was unimpressed with him, but he’s I doubt the players you ranked ahead of him will be better than him. He has good basketball IQ, he can stroke it,he can get to the rim, and he can play D — translation: he can ball. Peiod. He’s not a 1 or a 2, he’s a basketball player.
June 25th, 2008 at 9:59 pm
Optimus Dimes aka freewebs.com/utscore says:
Love’s cieling is probably David West not Brad Miller.
BTW Miller was an border-line all star in his prime, which is probably better than a lot of top big men picks become(Kwame, Olokawandi, Todd Fuller, Patty o’bryant, shawn bradly, chris mihm, Darko, Skeeta, Diop, Montross, Tractor).
So if Love becomes antoher David West , then its a very good pick. if he becomes another Brad Miller, then thats a decent pick.
June 25th, 2008 at 10:46 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
love isn’t even close to west since a) west is pretty much muscle b)love wasn’t overhyped coming in c)wasn’t a lottery pic so it would of been fine if he didnt pan out d)he is a ATHLETE f)love and only play center, west is a powerforward so he’d be closer to beasly’s basement.
Millers prime lasted about a year and even then he wasn’t a franchise center…he surprised everyone, became a fantasy league hot shit and then was old and slow the next year. People don’t need just decent pics at #3
June 25th, 2008 at 11:35 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
Bron,
Half the top 10 picks in the past 20 years were total busts. I’d take a Brad Miller clone over a total bust any day of the week. And you are one ignorant fool if you think Bogut is a stiff.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:40 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
And btw no one is saying Bogut should have been the #1 pick. Obviously Paul and Williams are superstars and he is not and most likely never will be. But he’s also not a stiff, he’s a legit young center who CAN score and CAN rebound. Mark my words when Skiles gets rid of Mo Williams and replaces him with a real PG, Bogut will flourish.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:45 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
right, i’m in ignorant fool for not likin your boy boguy, cuz hes done sooo much in his career to prove otherwise…the bucks have made it to the playoffs how many times since he got there? Hes been a allstar in the east how often? Enlighten me on just how much of a stiff bogut isn’t….was makes him not a stiff? He was a #1 pic and is ronny turiaff with a few post moves. Not much to rave over.
And did I ever say brad miller sucked? Did I ever say I wouldnt want him? No, so pay attention. Would I waste a #3 pick on a guy who is brad miller AT BEST? hell no. I’d rather risk it on a guy with a higher ceiling. Kevin love will never be anything more that a ok player in the NBA if that, Similar to nick collison or something. HE just doesn’t have a NBA skill set, doesn’t have HUGE potential and wasnt even dominant in college so drafting him or someone like bogut THAT high is kinda stupid.
“Hypothetically, let’s say the only thing that mattered in the NBA is how many points per game each player scored. Let’s also say a team was faced with two choices for a draft pick: a “safe” player who had a 100% chance of scoring 15 points per game, or a risky player who had a 50% chance of being a star and scoring 25 points per game and a 50% chance of being a bust and only scoring 5. Both players have an expected output of 15 points per game, but one is less risky. You go with the safer player, right?
Wrong. The secret twist in sports is that teams have option values. In other words, if the player you draft turns out to be a bust, you can get rid of him. You can trade him, waive him, or, at the very least, bench him. And you can probably find a mediocre player who’ll score 10 points a game to replace him. All of a sudden, the risky pick has a 50% chance of 25 points per game and a 50% chance of being replaced by a 10 points per game player. The expected return is now 17.5 points per game, higher than the 15 points per game of the safer pick.
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June 25th, 2008 at 11:51 pm
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
a legit center? lol hes a pf who plays center. And no he wont suddenly break out mo goes because he would never be their number 1 option. Please stop gein a homer and just stickin up for guys you like who have done nothing in their careers if your gonna argue with me. Even when bogut was drafted they said he wasn’t gonna improve much, look at any mock draft from back then. You think hes suddenly gonna turn into something just cuz mo leaves? Why do you think they went after Yi, or charlie? cuz bogut can’t do enough to carry them and isn’t a franchise player. Both bogut and miller are role players. I don’t want a Role player at #3-#10 in the draft if my team already sucks.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:53 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
Kevin Love doesn’t have a good skill set? LOL Go to nbadraft.net, they have a top 5 list for every attribute in the draft. This is every player in the draft, not just the ones who get the ink. Number 1 for post skills? Kevin Love. As for Bogut, just because somebody isn’t an all-star doesn’t make him a stiff. There are lots of really good players in the league who just aren’t quite good enough to be all-stars. Besides which, with the thin ranks of centers in the east these days, Bogut could very easily become an all-star if the Bucks improve.
June 25th, 2008 at 11:55 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
Please explain how Bogut’s numbers have improved every one of his 3 years if he’s never going to get better. Also, please enlighten me as to how many guys picks 3-10 every year become all-stars. I’d be very interested to know.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:09 am
johnsacrimoni says:
Going back to 2000 but not including ’07 since it’s too recent
All-Stars in the top 10:
2000-1 (Kenyon Martin, 1 appearance and probably no more)
2001-2
2002-3
2003-4
2004-1
2005-1
2006-1
Outright busts in the top 10:
2000-7
2001-2
2002-3 (includes Jay Williams)
2003-2 (does not include Michael Sweetney, who may be viewed as a bust)
2004-3
2005-1
2006-5
June 26th, 2008 at 12:26 am
Bron42 had springs before slamball says:
Ya, i said love has post moves…but not a nba skill set…he wasn’t a dominant post player in college, you think hes gonna beast yao? Tons of players have moves, doesn’t suddenly mean thier gonna be amazing players. College skillset doesn’t always translate to the nba. So sure he has post moves, but hes not tim duncan where he will just overwelm guys. JJ reddick had a skill set too and how’d that work out for him. You could have 50 post moves but if it doesn’t translate then it doesnt mean much. Cuz if you also look at nbadraft.net, they have him listed as a 5 on quickness and a 6 on defense meaning people are going to light him up. Combine that with him being only 6’9 maybe, his post moves aren’t going to be as easy to get off when 7’0s are waiting in the paint.
As for bogut, yes he will improve…slightly…nothing drastic. thats what i meant. anyone who goes to the nba and is fed the ball 20 times a game will improve somewat (outside of kwame) still doesn’t mean he has stud potential or warrents his draft spot. Your tryin to twist this like i said the guys suck. bogut is solid…still a stiff and i wouldnt pay him max money ever but hes solid. Love may be solid too, i doubt it but he might, BUT neither warrent a high draft pic. that was the whole point of the topic. Is kevin love that much better than spencer hawes? no not really and he barely left the bench in sac town. Have you even played college ball? because its really shouldnt be this hard to explain how college skillsets don’t always translate into pro succes. Hes slow, overweight, undersized for center, not a good athlete and not even good on defense. he averaged 1 block and 1 steal in college and got owned by athletic centers, how do you think he’ll stack up against tyson chandler or dwight howard or amare or samuel dalmebert who are all bigger and more atheltic.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:30 am
johnsacrimoni says:
How can you be both solid and a stiff?
June 26th, 2008 at 12:32 am
johnsacrimoni says:
Height concerns and athleticism concerns are overblown. Look at Carlos Boozer. They said the same thing about him coming out of college and that’s why he fell to the 2nd round.
June 26th, 2008 at 12:45 am
johnsacrimoni says:
Calling you an ignorant fool may have been a little harsh..you clearly know the game and I respect that. It’s cool to disagree on a guy like Love..the so-called “experts” do it all the time. I guess we just don’t see eye-to-eye on what a solid pick is. If some extraordinary talent is available then by all means snatch him up. Superstars sell tickets, help teams improve and give teams an identity. But if I’m faced between a Kevin Love type and some unknown quantity who doesn’t know how to play the game and is only in the draft because he’s 7’0 and athletic I’ll take Love all day. He may not be your best player or 2nd best player but he will be solid and hold down his position. Does that make sense? I’d rather have Shane Battier than some project, you know? He may not be a superstar but he is solid.
June 26th, 2008 at 3:40 am
frankie says:
Bron, yea, I’ve been reading these boards for years, and like I said…you never go out on a limb to say a guy might be good. you dont have to post to make me happy, i just wanted to point out the obvious and let john know that you’re not going to put your opinion on the line. we get it – all of these guys are stiffs and are unathletic and will never pull through in the clutch, and none of them will be able to keep up with your favorite players. you probably play as the all-madden team every time you play. and hate on all of them.
June 26th, 2008 at 7:16 am
Optimus Dimes aka freewebs.com/utscore says:
how does solid equal stiff?
June 26th, 2008 at 11:36 am
doc says:
Bron won.
June 26th, 2008 at 4:19 pm
GEE...Forget ya mama, I'm talkin bout you and me toe to toe says:
Dang Bron you had much to say. LOL
October 15th, 2008 at 3:41 pm
ill1 says:
rush is too low