Smack / Jun 18, 2008 / 12:51 am

They Are the Champions

IMAGE DESCRIPTIONKevin Garnett: Certified

Nobody — no expert, casual fan, or anyone in between — who predicted the Celtics would win the 2008 NBA championship was going out on a limb, so we don’t feel a need to search the Smack archives for some prescient quote from the preseason. The way Boston played last night, absolutely demolishing the Lakers in Game 6 to clinch the title, was the way we all envisioned this team playing from the time Kevin Garnett sat down with Paul Pierce and Ray Allen at that post-trade press conference last summer. After withstanding a hot Kobe Bryant in the first quarter, the Celtics dominated every facet of the game thereafter, led by KG (26 pts, 14 rebs, 3 stls) playing the kind of hair-on-his-chest game we’ve been waiting for since the Finals began. The dagger: Garnett’s floating, twisting, one-hand and-one that put Boston up by 21 in the final minute of the first half. The explosion you heard from the Boston crowd when that happened was a collective “FINALLY!” They’ve been waiting for Big Ticket to come through with a moment like that, where they could lose their minds, all postseason long. From there it was just a matter of time until the clock hit all zeros and the Celtics and the city of Boston could celebrate … How amazing and insane was KG in the post-game? Incoherently screaming to his Moms and everyone else he’s ever met in his life, spitting all over Michelle Tafoya, bursting into tears a few times, screaming “ANYTHING IS POSSIBUUUUUULLLLLLL!!!” and damn near fainting as Leon Powe reassured him, “I got you! I got you!” We always wondered how Garnett would react if he ever won the championship, and somehow he still managed to exceed our expectations … Finals MVP Paul Pierce didn’t have his best game (17 pts, 10 asts, 4-for-13 FG’s), but over the course of the series you couldn’t give the trophy to anyone else. Does this definitely certify Pierce as a Hall of Famer? Is he going to have his #34 retired in Boston? We say “Yes” and “Yes” … Did you see when Doc Rivers took the Big Three out of the game with about 3:30 remaining and Kobe was standing right there by the C’s bench, having to see and hear the whole thing? Is he going to use that as motivation for next year? … Kobe hit his first three shots of the first quarter — two treys and a long two-pointer — just barely missed his fourth attempt (another three), then stuck his next shot from beyond the arc. Long story short, seven minutes into the game Kobe had his s***-eating “I’m better than all of you” grin going and it looked like we were definitely headed for a Game 7. Seeing Kobe off to a hot start like that might have sparked 5.2 million “KOBE’S GOING FOR 70!!!” text messages amongst Lakers fans, and forced the TD Banknorth Garden concierge to call in an order for 20,000 pairs of new pants. If only Pau Gasol and/or Lamar Odom had decided to show up during that stretch, the Lakers would have been up big early … Kobe didn’t start cooling off until Doc put in James Posey, whose solitary job was to stop the avalanche from coming. After Posey started making him work for open looks, Kobe was officially no longer in a groove when he short-armed two straight jumpers midway through the second quarter and L.A. fell behind by double-digits. Boston was cutting off his drives all night, too, so Kobe (22 pts, 7-for-22 FG’s) absolutely needed to stay knocking down those J’s if the Lakers were gonna have a chance. As it stood, L.A. shot 8-for-27 in the first half and totally fell apart in the second quarter. Their second half performance was just pathetic, embarrassing, and something that’s going to haunt Kobe for the next 12 months until he can try to get another shot at a ‘chip … In fact, watching what happened to Kobe and the Lakers last night was reminiscent of one of Mike Tyson‘s fights later in his career, in particular the Lennox Lewis fight. Tyson would come out in the first round looking to take his man’s head off or simply intimidate his man into wilting, but if that didn’t happen — if someone like Lennox took his best punches and stood up to that opening assault — reality soon set in for Mike that he was simply not as good of a fighter as the guy in front of him. That was the Lakers on Tuesday, and the Celtics have now forced them to fade into bolivian … Overheard from one member of the Dime crew: “If someone who didn’t know anything about basketball was watching this, they’d be like, ‘Why was that guy the MVP?’” Hint: they weren’t talking about Pierce … After KG, Boston’s best player was Rajon Rondo (21 pts, 7 rebs, 8 asts, 6 stls). He started out shooting horribly, but compensated by being a demon on defense and pushing the pace offensively. One time Rondo flew past Luke Walton so fast that all Luke could do was feebly stick his arm out trying to grab his jersey or anything to slow him down … Speaking of Luke, can you imagine his phone call to Bill Walton last night, as Bill is pretending to feel bad for him while trying to quietly dance around the room and smooch his Larry Bird posters? … Ray Allen was also a beast, dropping 26 points and 7 triples. When Ray got poked in the eye in the first half, you know somebody in the ABC production truck started screaming “Get an X-Mo of that! Get an X-Mo!” We’re glad they’re starting to use it more for actual game action and not just drawn-out shots of KG cursing. And cue the Lakers’ fans accusing Ray of faking/milking the eye injury just for the standing O he got when he came back … How bad were Odom (14 pts, 10 rebs, 5 asts) and Gasol (11 pts, 8 rebs, 5 turnovers) that Doc felt comfortable enough playing Powe and Big Baby at the same time as his big-man combo? And don’t be fooled by L.O.’s decent stat line; he didn’t do ANYTHING until it was already garbage time. Odom reached a point in this series where he could be going coast-to-coast with the ball — which should be a scary thing if you’re on the other team — and L.A. was hoping he would just pass it before something bad happened … Random thought during the broadcast video intro: Since Michael Jordan‘s immortal shot against the Lakers in ’91 came when Cliff Levingston found MJ cutting to the basket, does that mean Cliff Levingston has the most famous assist in Finals history? … Good thing the series ended when it did, because ABC was clearly out of ideas for halftime features. And when you consider the teams and players involved in this series, that’s really unacceptable. The montage of “Wired” clips was OK at best, and definitely not jaw-dropping as Stu Scott promised. Although Andrew did point out that in Doc’s pre-game/halftime speeches, you can see he usually seems to convey the intensity and urgency of the moment much better than Phil Jackson … We know we’re not the only ones who spotted Kevin Duckworth in the “NBA Cares” ad that ran in the third quarter. E-mail from Austin: “I remember when I was little I was watching a Blazers game and they had a halftime feature on Kevin Duckworth. The point of the story, from what I recall, was to get us to feel sorry for him because people made fun of his name. There was one dramatic moment where he looked into the camera all sad-eyed and said, ‘What is a duck worth?’ remembering how kids used to clown him at school.” … Another memorable moment from the Celtics’ celebration: P.J. Brown double-fisting Bud Lights in the locker room, dancing and pouring them on shorter people … Finally, soon after the game we got the pic posted below e-mailed to us from Jed, the Dime crew’s most outwardly passionate Celtics fan, with the line, “Got it for my wedding. Drinking it for a championship.” … We’re out like the season …

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  • fallinup

    Birdman can finish…especially if you give him 20 tries to do it. LOL

  • ERIC

    @ Austin Burton

    The Birdman signing was a risk to the great team chemistry. It was an unknown how he would work-in with the team. He really didn’t play much as I am sure Byron Scott wanted to maintain the team momentum as well as allow Chris to get back into game shape.

    He’s is an athletic, energy guy who had a feel-good story of making it back from his drug/alcohol problems. He just wasnt going to pay any dividends this past season. I’m rooting for him.

    I do think that they traded Cedric Simmons too early (he was 20 or 21 when they traded him, only 22 now) and think he could eventually develop into a big body, solid backup (too bad its for the Bulls now, and the Hornets are stuck with Armstrong and Ely).

  • YOUNGFED

    “Other than my kid being born, this is the greatest day of my life.”

    Damn KG what about your wedding day? I know it ain’t get nuffin’ after the game from the wifey.

  • Celts Fan

    your redhead NWO Kevin Nash = Robert Swift

    @Kermit and Doc, thanks for the good wishes fellas. Can’t believe how big a difference from where we were last year to today. Damn. I hope you guys get to see your teams win one soon too (especially the Sixers. having lived in Philly for 5 years, I know, that city needs a parade BAD… stay up Doc, they’re coming soon. another few solid drafts, you can be legit contending in 4-5 years. Thad Young looks LEGIT and we know Iggy is…)

    as for the Lakers, I think they’re healthy next year, can either play Lamar at the 3 (can he really be worse than Vlad?) or start Ariza (who was a damn good defensive stopper type before the injury) and with Bynum, they’re not soft as a grape anymore. I think they grab a chip next year…

    What a great friggin night. The Garden was LOUD, lost my voice, which is neat when you’re in sales (oh well, I think they’re just surprised I even showed up… I kinda am too!) I’ve seen a lot of Boston teams win titles, but the Celtics are my team. Not the Sox or the Pats (though I love both) but the Celtics. I love this team. Gotta do the role call:

    Paul Pierce – this guy went from potentially being shipped out of town 3 years ago, to the defining Celtic of the post-Bird era. What a GREAT Playoffs from him. Can’t say enough about the all-around things he did all year and the clutch shots all Playoffs when certain others didn’t want to take/couldn’t make them. In an era when most players want out when things start going badly (Kobe, Vince, JO, even ‘Toine!) Paul signed an extension, said all the right things, and had faith in the front office to surround him with a real supporting cast. He is/has been the next in the line of great Celtics, and I’m happy to say he’s going to retire with a ring and retire wearing green. This locked up a spot in the Hall. “You can’t handle the truth!”

    Ray Allen – damn dude. off for 2+ series, then goes all Shuttlesworth on us for the last 8 games. What a game last night! I think Ray Ray just won the Kobe feud… he definitely gave up the most of all the guys in the Big Three to make it work. Despite how he played, it was always, “We won, I don’t care what I did, I’m ecstatic.” Beyond classy (and great to see his kid’s doing ok.)

    KG – the passion he brought to this team (and defense) made them into what they became. He’s CLEARLY been miscast as a Jordan (#1 option/scorer), when he’s definitely more a Pippen (amazingly versatile, can be the #1 guy, but won’t win a title in that role,) but regardless, he is AMAZING (and completely and totally f*ckin nuts in the most likable way possible.) I’ll always remember the quote Sean Grande (Celts radio guy, was the TWolves radio guy when KG was making his name) gave to Simmons right after the trade, “All out, every night, heart and soul — Game 13 in Atlanta, Game 61 on a Monday night aganst Charlotte, Game 6 of the Conference finals, doesn’t matter.” dead on. What a competitor, and that moment with Bill Russell afterwards, I mean WOW…

    Perk – is developing some offense and KG’s instilled a mean streak in him. owns the glass and is a hell of a defender. a lot ot like besides his awful “hood suit!”

    Rondo – last night was what I’m talking about when I say I think he’ll be a top 5 pg a few years down the line. 14, 6, 7, and 8. Wow. Keep working on that shot, but it’s great to see his versatility, PHENOMENAL defense, and knack for keeping the offense under control (amazing for a 21 year old playing w/ this team!)

    James Posey – this guy is a WARRIOR. He’ll probably be gone next year (can opt out this summer or keep the 1 yr, $3.5M left) I hope someone finally gives him a “set for life” type contract. He’s earned a 4 yr, $25M type deal. Hopefully it’s from us, but if he leaves, he’ll ALWAYS be loved here. We couldn’t have won it without his D and clutch 3s.

    Doc Rivers – I was as vocal about wanting him gone as every other Celtics fan. I WAS WRONG. After winning the East, that’s when I really understood how vital he was to this team. The guys LOVE him and will run through a wall for him. For Paul to thank Doc for sticking with/by him was refreshing. Doc’s never gonna be a great X’s and O’s guy, but it’s a player’s league and Doc just out-Phil’d Phil. Ubuntu indeed…

    What a great year with some great moments. It was awesome to see that w/ Pops and actually see them take one. We were beginning to think it’d never happen at this time last year (after season tickets since Antoine’s rookie year – when the decade-long wait list from Larry Legend’s career finally ended, which was wicked cool) and now we got to see them take one and be a part of it at the Garden. amazing night, too many great moments and memories to recount them all. Watching them with the trophy, you could see the, “I can’t believe this, I’m living my childhood dream right now” look in their eyes. GREAT MOMENT. At this time last year, I was trying to figure out a reason to get excited about a Paul Pierce, Al Jefferson, and Yi/Jeff Green/ or Joakim Noah team and how they could win more than 35 games. Today, we’re world champions. “ANYTHING IS POSSIBUUUUUULLLLLLL!!!”

  • Suciniac

    @Eric
    So, since I see that you are a Hornets fan,you really think Armstrong,Ely,Chandler and West are on par with Gasol,Odom,Turiaf or Pargo,James are on par with Fisher,Farmar???

  • fallinup

    @ Celtsfan, couldn’t been said better. Congrats to your town and your team. Repeat? Whatcha think? LOL

  • YOUNGFED

    GOOD LAWD!!! CELTS, did you right a whole articl. lol

  • 92021SpurMD

    NWO’s starting five and coach!

    Bonner = Hogan
    Scals = Drunken Scott Hall
    Swift = Big Sexy
    Bill Walton = Eric Bischoff
    Luke Ridnour = Sixx (X-PAC)
    Mark Madsen (honorary member, I feel like he should be a red head) = Big Papa Pump

  • fallinup

    @ Celtsfan again

    And after this Finals…I’m a true believer in Rondo. Get the man a consistent jump shot and he’s deadly. Such a smart ball player.

  • Celts Fan

    Youngfed, I could’ve, just started typing and that’s what came out… been waiting for this day for a LONG time. To see it done by such a classy team, in such a fun way (the ups and downs of this playoffs almost gave me a heart attack, but what a ride!) in a Celtics/Lakers Finals was absolutely amazing. Nights like last night are why we love sports. Went home and watched the 2nd half on DVR to see what I missed while I was at the game. Still smirking like an idiot and probably won’t stop for a while…

    fallinup, if we resign Posey, I think we can definitely repeat. If not, it’s a lot harder. I think the window’s still open, but we’re in a Miami-like situation in that it’s not gonna be open really long. Thankfully, we got one, so now the pressure’s off for next year for them. I wouldn’t be the slightest bit surprised to see ‘em repeat, but I’m not ready to think to that point yet (except to hope that Eddie House and James Posey get PAID this summer by someone – hopefully us.)

  • YOUNGFED

    THIS JUST IN:

    “BOSTON — Boston Police Commissioner Ed Davis says about 30 people were arrested during the Celtics’ championship celebration, most for disorderly conduct.

    Several storefront windows were damaged near the TD Banknorth Garden after the Celtics’ 131-92 win over the Los Angeles Lakers in Game 6 of the NBA Finals.

    Police increased patrols around the arena Tuesday night and early Wednesday and used video surveillance at key areas around the city to control rowdiness.

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    Previous New England Patriots and Boston Red Sox championship celebrations have been marred by deaths among revelers.” -Detroit News

    Damn Celts thats how yall get down in Boston. Yall kinda wild

  • Joe

    I think Kobe has really put a stamp on his legacy after this finals appearance. He must be considered the greatest 2nd banana of all time. He won 3 rings playing 2nd fiddle to Shaq, when they went for a 4th title he wanted to be the leader but couldn’t close the deal. Now he leads a team to the finals, but can’t finish the deal. On second thought, maybe he’s the 2nd best 2nd banana of all time…..at least Scottie knew his place and didn’t have a power struggle with MJ

  • chrisGO

    @post #50
    are you a retard?

  • fallinup

    Wow, FED…only 30 arrests???!! In Boston? That’s nuts!

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    I think poster #50 was joking…

  • ERIC

    @ Celts Fan – Congrats

    What does everyone think this season (DPOY, Championship) does for KG’s legacy in terms of top PF’s of all-time?

  • fallinup

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEqwt81wiN4&eurl

    The Boston Celebration, would you expect anything less? Damn, do they love their team or what! LOL

  • John Starks

    Game 6 was such a fluidly played game because it was the first game in a while the refs couldn’t interfere. With all the scrutiny, the league office finally told them to back off and just let them play.

    No ghost fouls, no ref-induced momentum shifts to let the Lakers back in the game. They had to just let them play. They couldn’t control the outcome of every play, so the outcome became about who is actually playing better for once.

    I’m not big into conspiracy theories, but the refs definitely do poison the game, and the league office does tell them to make certain calls in certain situations for certain players.

  • Phileus

    I’ve been in shock the whole series…

    What happened to the Lakers that dominated the reigning champions in five games?

    What happened to the Celts that needed seven games to beat the worst team to ever make the playoffs?

    Like maybe most Dime readers I grew up watching the Jordan/Jackson duo dominate the NBA. This season, more than ever, seemed like the second coming. Before this series I would have said Kobe was not a Jordan shadow, but his own man, and this series would let him finally make his own legacy. What happened?

    Did Phil Jackson give a damn this series?

    Completely shell-shocked. Congrats to the Celts and their fans though. It’s hard not to be happy for KG especially.

    P.S.: Did anyone else just want Michele Tafoya to leave KG the hell alone during that awful interview? Let the man have his celebration!

  • http://www.alltexasforums.com rangerjohn

    @youngfed and fallinup
    only 30 in boston on a celebratio nnight? hell i think theyre where 40 or so here in houston last night and we had nothing to celebrate lately considering hte only team playing is the LASTros

  • http://dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @Phileus — I kinda wanted the media to just let the Celtics have their moment (did you see how there was about 500 people on Boston’s bench and on the baseline for the last minute of the game?) but you knew Tafoya wasn’t leaving that floor without getting her questions in.

  • K Dizzle

    DAMN!!!! That hurt.
    Congrats, Celts – the hungrier team won it.
    After the 3rd quarter, I felt like I was watchin Chappelle go Prince on Charlie Murphy.
    If Kobe woulda had 60, we still woulda lost big. He just had no help. I’m ok with the Celts winnin it cuz they don’t have the players dudes love to hate. Everybody wanted KG and Ray to get a chip and P-Double just took his oppurtunity after years of bein a good soldier.
    I hope last night shut up the KG haters and dudes still sayin junk like “we’ll see how his career is after this” need to disappear. KG can retire right now and he’s still HOF and the TWolves should do him right and retire #21 when he’s done.
    I ain’t goin into panic mode and pullin a Phoenix and callin for blowin up a good thing. Lakers are young. Only Fish is over 30 and I keep hearin too many heads sayin Bynum can’t make that much of a difference next year. Stop the hate please. If any of your teams had a 20 year old 7 foot, 280 lb center who averaged 14 and 10 with 2 blocks while shootin 62% from the field comin off knee surgery and goin into his 4 year, you’d be giddy. More rebounds is more possessions, a bigger body means Gasol doesn’t have to try to guard big bodies. I’m not tradin Lamar Odom and lookin like Phoenix without Marion, dude still got skills but Boston is just murder on the defensive end. What ever happened to lettin dudes learn together, take they lumps and move forward? I think Laker fans just gotta come to grips with the fact that we ran into a defensive buzzsaw. I hope we never face 3 guys and a coach that hungry in the playoffs agin.
    I got 47 texts as the game was ending. Only 7 were legit die-hard Celts fans. The other 40 were straight Laker haters lol.

    @ doc – If Ray played against Cleveland like he played against the Lakeshow, the series doesn’t go 7 and neither does that Atlanta series

    @ Celts fan – Whole new level of respect for Mr. 21, 8, 8, and 6. i remember puttin dude in the top 5 floor leaders in the playoffs over Tony Parker and some dudes losin they minds. Tony Parker didn’t get a jumpshot till 2 seasons ago. Once Rondo gets his, his boardin and defense gonna make him an all-star. I loved dude @ UK leadin the squad in boards so his d and all arounds don’t come as a surprise. Y’all lucky u didn’t lose him in the KG trade.

    @ post#160 – Yeah, you right. Kobe’s a 29 yr. old hasbeen, a scrub who is only the best in the game and got thru the tough western conference cuz he played with Shaq 5 years ago. He led a team to the Finals and couldn’t seal it….cuz Scottie Pippen did that how many times without Mike? You can keep your “stamp”. I’ll wait til he retires

    @ Austin Burton – KG steppin up in a title clincher is why Vince is soft

    lookin forward to next year – Peace

  • http://dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @K Dizzle — I give KG all the credit in the world for the way he played last night, but it doesn’t erase how he played in the first five games of the series. If he played like that the whole time, Boston might have swept.
    After 10-plus years or not being clutch, does one game wipe it all away and make you clutch forever?

  • http://www.alltexasforums.com rangerjohn

    one question
    WHERE IS CHUCK?!

  • http://dimemag.com Austin Burton

    Quick story about Rondo’s jumper: I remember I did a season with Kentucky on NCAA 2K-whatever when he was a sophomore, and he was the best player on the team. I might’ve averaged 8 or 9 steals PER GAME with Rondo. But I swear, he didn’t hit ONE jumper outside 15-feet the entire season. Not one. I never checked, but his shot rating on that game must have been like a 14 out of 100.

  • 92021SpurMD

    @Austin,

    NO WAY!!! A legacy is built over time, not overnight. GREATNESS is acheived through a steady flow, not spotty.

  • Celts Fan

    sounds about right AB. You may’ve given him 13 pts too many too. That shit was BROKE at UK

    @KDizzle, Danny refused to part w/ Rondo in the KG deal, instead it was Gomes, a #1 (ours, not theirs back – #3 this year) and a #2. I’d say Ainge got that one right.

    I’ve always looked at Rondo’s ceiling as Tony Parker offensively and an AMAZING defender. His jumper, while still broke, is developing and better than last year. 3 more years at this rate, it’s about average, then look out…

    @Youngfed, it was actually pretty pieceful out there. The idiots wrecking stuff got cuffed real quick. No real rioting, just a few drunks trying to act a fool and ending up in lock-up.
    and 1 person died at the Red Sox celebration (none for any Pats stuff,) and it was AWFUL. After the Sox came back from 0-3 on the Yanks in the ’04 ALCS, there was a large, pretty “racous” (aka drunk) crowd outside near Fenway. tons of cops were there, the crowd got out of control. the cops shot some rubber bullets and pepper spray into the crowd to get control of things. unfortunately, one of the rubber bullets hit some poor girl in the eye and went right through it and hit her brain. it was pretty tragic…

    @Eric, it’s tricky to figure KG’s legacy cuz he’s been proven as a better 2nd banana, but a GREAT one. Does he get rated above Malone for pulling out a chip as the 2nd option (though a HUGE all-=around force for the team) compared to Malone’s individual brilliance as THE GUY on a team that never won a chip? I don’t know, tough to compare (both tended to not be super clutch.) It’s tough to compare guys with different roles. All I know is he’s probably locked himself into the top 20-30 players of all time, and a top 5 PF of all time and he has the undying, unequivical love of both teams’ fans he’s ever suited up for. Whenyou see guys night in, night out, flaws tend to get exposed. KG’s biggest flaw was that he may’ve cared too much (sleepless nights during Detroit series, getting so pumped up he was rendered half useless in some 4th quarters.) Larry Brown would LOVE this guy, he plays the right way and behaves like a class act off the floor. One thing I’ll remember from last night is KG making a point of getting off the bench and hugging and high fiving every single ball boy and towel boy lining the baseline, long after he’d checked out and been mobbed by his teammates and coaches. Dude wanted everybody, regardless of how important they were to the team to be involved. When’s the last time you saw that? When he won DPOY, he waived his teammates over and made them all join him there to take the picture with the award -which they were all holding by that point. Offensively, KG is a 2nd option, defensively, his intensity and fierceness (when he got down on all 4s like a lion ready to pounce, I’m pretty sure Pau wet himself!) set the tone. A true leader in every sense of the word. How that overcomes for him being more a 2nd option offensively is for another day. He’s got his ring, a place in Springfield long locked-up, and soon enough, his number in the rafters in 2 buildings. “ANYTHING IS POSSIBUUUUUULLLLLLL!!!” Now can someone please get him a Zanex?

  • doc

    Celts Fan is feeling hiself today.

  • doc

    If Iggy legit give me the big 3 for him and Thad right now.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    1. Duncan
    2. Barkley
    3. Malone
    4. Garnett

    That’s admittedly without giving it a ton of thought…

  • http://www.alltexasforums.com rangerjohn

    i would switch malone and barkley on that list austin but thats just me

    i read celts fan talking about kg’s flaws, to be honest IMO his biggest flaw (and this is one that gets me good too) he is greedy. had he opted to take less money in minny he would have had some better company to play around. but hey he had to get paid. what 24.7 mil next season? and that is left over from his contract in minny. maybe he figured out that he can win with less money when he resigned with the celtics but damn he still took a ton of cash. this is a fatal flaw of a ton of nba players. when shaq signed with the heat and turned away 5 mil a yr on his deal i was SHOCKED! and duncan turned down 11 mil on 2 yrs, i was a little surprised (not completely) but damn kg took what $250 mil off the t-wolves and they got nothing in return but some “intensity”

    had he taken say 200 mil and left 50 on the table, who knows maybe they could have signed some decent tallent?

  • http://dimemag.com Austin Burton

    My instinct is to take whatever money they’re offering you and run with it, but when you’re talking insane figures like that, yes, Garnett could have thought more of the team than of himself. But I can’t in good conscience down a guy for getting every dollar he can so long as he’s not hurting anyone.

    Now what he DOES with that money is another story. I like hearing about guys like Warrick Dunn and Shaq who do good things with their money and give back to the people.

  • Dave

    someone get cafeteria lady hairnet boy a LIFE ALERT….”I’VE FALLEN and CAN’T GET UP!!!!!”

    Good to see Doc get his, and Ray and PP. The only problem I had with anything last night was KG’s interview….he sounded so bad and I was embarrased for him….he only knows about 11 words and two of them are MF. Glad he was happy, but come on KG, get real.

  • Celts Fan

    na Doc, just feeling KG and the Celtics. Still got that sh*t eating grin going…

    I’d switch Barkley and Malone too, but that looks about right Austin.

    KG’s biggest flaw in Minnesota, if you awnt to get technical, is that McHale is a clown and broke the rules to lock up Joe Smith of all people. Goodbye 4 out of 5 #1s in KG’s prime. Taking less $$$ would’ve helped, but having your draft picks to be able to add to the team probably woulda helped more (let’s be real, big time free agents aren’t flocking to Minnesota, KG or not.) Another flaw was that he was stuck as THE GUY, when he’s definitely a better #2 (offensively anyway.)

    Imagine how differently things may’ve been in Minn. had they either kept Ray or, been able to work things out w/ Marbury after Ray Ray was dealt for him…

  • Heat 24

    I was hoping someone would knock the tar outta Sasha…… Oh he got on my nerves the whole dang gone series…. Way to Go C’s…. I’m so happy KG, PP, and Ray Ray got theirs, and Doc. I mean I have never seen defense played like that in the 21st century!!! that was amazaing!! The game was off the hook, I’m sad to see the season over but it went out with a BIG GREEN/WHITE BANG!

  • wHAT’S REAL

    celts did it

  • wHAT’S REAL

    and they may not do it again

  • Snoop

    and it’s 187 on a mutha-fukkin cop

  • http://www.alltexasforums.com rangerjohn

    austin
    i agree get al lthe money you can so long as it hurts nobody else, BUT when you take all the money the team could use to bring in AT LEAST ONE player who could help ,dont need all those big names, just one good solid guy would help bring in the other guys. look at the spurs as an example, the free agents have come running for the chance to play in a tiny little market in the middle of hot ass south texas.

    the other thing, when you take all the money and your team cant aford those help guys, then you have no right to whine about not ever getting over the hump. you cant blame management when you took all their working money.
    when you have 60 mil to hire 13 + men and 1 guy takes 1/3 of all your money BY HIMSELF then that man cannot complain about the help he is given. on top of that, all that money DID hurt someone, it hurt the fans and listening to the radio there are a ton of fans not real happy with him.

    and sorry celt fan but ray ray never played in minny, milly maybe not minny.

  • K Dizzle

    @ RJ

    Ray Allen was traded for Steph on draft day.
    Celts is sayin if they coulda kept Ray, it coulda been different and takin less money’s cool and all, but I never heard about MJ takin less money. It comes down to management and how smart they are. We can all agree McHale wasn’t that smart durin KG’s tenure. You lose 4 first rounders for a Joe Smith then lose him too, that’s a bad decision.
    Even the spurs were payin D-Rob and Tim and smart gm’in got then TP late in the draft and Ginobili was 2nd round money.
    The fact that the Celts won the chip this season is the perfect example of good gm work and a little luck cuz PP,KG and Ray gotta be eatin up about 75-80% of the Celts cap

  • http://dimemag.com Austin Burton

    Milwaukee drafted Steph at #4, Minnesota took Ray at #5, then they traded, kind of like when Vince and Jamison were traded on Draft day. (I never understood the point of that, BTW.)

  • Celts Fan

    Ranger, San Antonio, is hot and the place looks like a really nice town. as for Minnesota, I’ve heard the people are nice, but that bitch is frozen 9 months a year. Not the same, Minnesota will never be a free agent destination in any sport. It’s just too cold (and if you like/don’t mind the cold and want the midWest, first choice would probably be Chicago)

    I’m not going to make excuses for KG, Tim Duncan would have at least gotten his teams to the Playoffs and out of the first round had they switched teams their entire careers, but when KG was given the right cast around him to let him excel at what he does best and be the #2 scorer (or at least not have a ton of pressure on him to have to get 25,) which has only been twice in his entire career, he’s gotten to the WCF and copped a ring. This wasn’t TMac losing with Yao or other solid teammates he’s had, this was Kobe losing in the 1st round with Smush Parker and Kwame Brown, only if the Lakers decided to try to cheat to keep Brian Cook aroudn too and kept Smush and Kwame until Kobe got pissed and raped a bitch, I mean asked to be traded (only instead of asking out like a dick, KG still insisted that he wanted to retire in Minnesota until he was eventually traded anyway.)

  • Kobe

    LOL @ POST 193

  • http://www.flickr.com/photos/djkianoosh djKianoosh

    huge Spurs news!!

    word out of Argentina’s news outlets is that Ginobili’s ankle is worse than what the Spurs previously thought. He’s going to go through another 3 weeks of tests and his participation in Beijing for Argentina’s Gold medal defense is in doubt!. He just arrived in the country and he’s said that the ankle is worse than what the Spurs staff originally thought.

    listening to Argentina vs Brasil on the radio right now, and they just reported this at the halftime update. bad blow to argentina. hopefully for the Spurs he’ll be able to rehab it and get back to 100% by next season. he doesn’t have to play in the olympics. he’s already won the gold and as an argentine fan, I say thanks Manu, but please rest and get healthy first and foremost.

  • http://GEE2.com GEE…doing the wop, running man, cabbage patch and mudfoot

    So just for the sake of wonderment lol. Just think if ATL had beat Boston somehow. I have to wonder with the way the Lakers played a team out the East still would have gotten them.

    Homecourt was big this year. Matter of fact I have to also wonder if Boston could have won had they not had the first two games at home. Don’t get me wrong yes I know they won in LA and beat them up bad for the last game. I am just wondering if the 7 games were somehow switched to wear Boston doesn’t get to play the first 2 at home would the series be different or at least go to 7?

    It’s good Boston had the best record in the L this year. Homecourt helped them out a great deal. I bet more teams are going to be fighting harder than ever for homecourt and higher seeds next year.

    Anyway that is all on some if and wondering stuff.

    Still Boston got it and congrats again. For a long time I didn’t know if KG or Paul was ever going to get theirs. I felt like KG was waisting away in Minny (here that LeBron) and I hated it for Paul when fat boi (Antoine Walker) got one.

    I am glad to be able to see KG be “certified” and for Paul to have one that he deserves not like Toine who disrespects the game and money to much for my taste.

    Congrats Boston.

  • http://www.theverticalsummit.com VERTMAN

    Wow!!!! I still can’t believe the Celtics won the NBA finals! So sweet it is after all these yrs. LA vs Celtics made it a classic one for sure. And you know the Lakers are kicking themselves for being up & losing it a few times.

    Ray Allen was awesome
    The Truth was the man – MVP
    KG – that one shot was SWEET! You know the one.
    Rondo was very impressive, dude has some QUICK hands!
    James Posey is the most underrated NBA player in the league!
    Peace & chicken grease!

  • Buck Fush

    @fallinup #151
    That is absolutely fucking classic

    @RJ
    Stephen Jackson was offered a low deal, thought he could bank elsewhere, and like someone said ended up taking even less $$ with the Hawks I think it was.

    And I can’t believe you of all ppl actually defended Karl Malone on any topic, dirty mofo you talkin’ about there. Knocked D-Rob out with that elbow.

    @djK
    that really sucks about manu

    -SAS Sizzle aka BuckFush aka ginobiliwilldestroyyou

  • http://www.alltexasforums.com rangerjohn

    lmao SAS
    i didnt exactly “defend” malone, just said i would put his “legacy” in history over the round mound of rebound. (never was a fan of either but barkley just always rubbed me the wrong way by just being alive)

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