NBA / Jul 11, 2008 / 11:36 am
Paul Pierce Thinks Knicks Should Dump Stephon Marbury
Photo. G. LandPaul Pierce was asked what the Knicks should do with Steph and he answered honestly.
Here’s what he told the NY Daily News
“He makes the biggest contract, and he’s one of the oldest players on the team,” Pierce said yesterday. “That doesn’t really fit into a rebuilding plan, just to be honest.”
“I’d try to trade him or buy him out at this point,” added Pierce, who still believes Marbury can be a starting point guard in the NBA. “I just think he needs a fresh start somewhere else. Marbury needs to be on a veteran team where he fits into what they’re trying to do a little bit more.”
Source: RealGM via NY Daily News
July 11th, 2008 at 11:41 am
Truth says:
Marbury is crazy! Dude is off his rocker, I wouldn’t want dude in my locker room. I wouldn’t buy him out though. I would make the chump sit on the bench and not play just to kill his pride!! If I gotta pay him anyway, I might as well make his life miserable!
July 11th, 2008 at 11:56 am
MJAX says:
Marbury is done!!! his mentals have always been in question. He should just go to Europe and play like he once told us all. He’s not a winner and a cancer!! What has he done anywhere at anytime in his tenure in the L?!?
July 11th, 2008 at 11:58 am
shake&bake says:
Can anyone think of a team the Starbury fits in with? What team needs a gunning point guard with a shitty attitude? I understand that he has talent but the negatives outweigh the positives at this point.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:01 pm
fiyaman says:
I agreed Truth.. im a knicks fan and I say send him home tell him dont show up and just pay him the rest of his money.. let him try to find another contract next yr but i wouldnt buy him out and allow him to play for some other team on my salary..especially if he goes to some team in the east like miami .. I think Pierce is just talking hoping he end up with the Celts (if thats the case he’s dummer than i thought cause i wouldnt want him on my team)
July 11th, 2008 at 12:03 pm
Marco says:
Pierce wants Marbury in Boston ;-)… I think it could work because Marbury would be a different player next to KG (again) as he is in NY.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
NYCBalla says:
Trade him to Utah for D-Will plus a two future first round picks. D-Will would be tight in D’Antione game!
July 11th, 2008 at 12:07 pm
justice says:
Don’t let pierce fool u, they want marbury in boston, do any of you really believe rajon rondo is better than steph phucking marbury 20 and 8, period…he is a head case, but around a veteran team he’ll be fine a la rasheed,steph is a unique point guard and ill challenge anyone here no name a flaw in his game, including his defense which got way better under isiah…he can post,he is flawless off the pick and roll and he shoots the 3 with consistensy..he doesnt dominate the ball like ai either, stop feeding into the media and watch some tape folks..
people fail to remember the way he changed his game in his last 2 seasons for the team,he really became a facilitator the people around him just sucked…
July 11th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
hahns says:
marbury needs to go to a team where he is clearly not the best talent or the lone veteran. this so he can get his ego in check and not have the pressure of leading young guns. the guy is a talent, no one can deny that, so as long as he can play w/o having to be a leader/have a team depend on him, he’ll be worthwhile.
lakers would fit the bill according to my qualifications. kobe is the clearly the alpha male on that team, so marbs can just do his thing
July 11th, 2008 at 12:10 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
NO. Don’t bring that dbag to Boston. If he comes here, I’ll KNOW there’s no God.
I think he’d be a good fit in an up-tempo system where he can run (NY doesn’t count, he needs a new team.) Could work as Nash’s backup in Phoenix and play some 2 guard too w/ Nash (it’s not like those guys play any D anyway. Imagine Nash, Marbury, Hill, Amare, and Shaq. That team would get buckets, with the backup lineup being Ty Lue/Steph, Raja Bell, Barbosa, Diaw, and Sideshow Lopez)
July 11th, 2008 at 12:13 pm
hahns says:
btw, larry brown ruined his career
July 11th, 2008 at 12:25 pm
justice says:
if steph goes to miami i can only imagine what ungodly things he will do to chris duhon,when the play ny…does anyone remember the game where he and kobe both had 50?they were trying to rip each other’s tongues out…
posible suitors
SA (he kill’s tony parker pop has to be taking a look)
orlando (Jameer Nelson is a solid career backup,steph has hof numbers)
detroit (play him behind stuckey and get a big for chuncey perfit fit for steph)
toronto (This team needs some toughness,find a newyorker fast)
LA (fisher’s on his way out,farmer is looking like a careeer backup)
Bos (rondo will eventually be back on the bench where he belongs,solid 1,2 punch)
cle (labron doesn’t want him thou)
July 11th, 2008 at 12:35 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
@Justice, YOU ARE OUT OF YOUR DAMN MIND. “Rondo will eventually be back on the bench where he belongs?!?! Do you even watch basketball? He was the starting PG on the NBA Champs! He’s the best young PG in the league not named Deron or Chris. He’s a PHENOMENAL defender who’s got a good work ethic (as hard as it is to believe, his jumper was light years better this year, if he keeps working on it, it’ll be average within 3 seasons, then he’s close to unstoppable with his speed and passing ability too.) He needs to be a little more consistent, but as the jumper develops and he gets more experience (remember, he’s only a 21 year old, soon-to-be 3rd year guy) that’ll come.
In terms of the other teams you mentioned, he’d be a great fit in Cleveland and LA (though I think Farmar is better than you think.) It could work in SA, but I just don’t see them taking on a guy like him. Toronto just gave Calderon enough $ that he’s not being a backup, and Marbury will not be okay with backing him up (it’d be like TJ Ford, only MUCH WORSE.)
As far as Detroit goes, Steph would NEVER be okay backing up Stuckey. If they still had Chauncey, I could see it, but if your plan is to get Steph, trade Chauncey, and still bring Steph off the bench, you might as well just write up the Press Release for his suspension for conduct detrimental to the team and wait to fill in the date.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:45 pm
The Ebony Blur says:
Not for nothing, but a little over a year ago, Pierce made the most money on the Celtics, was one of the oldest guys on the team, and didn’t appear to fit into the Celtics’ rebuilding plan. If Danny didn’t kick the summer off by getting Ray Allen which eventually lured Ticket, PP almost certainly wouldn’t be on the C’s right now, but look what happened instead. Don’t get me wrong, I’m not at all saying I think anything close to what happened with the C’s is gonna happen with the Knicks, I’m just saying ish happens sometimes.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
YOUNGFED says:
Seems Justice is the only one who really knows b-ball on here. Also Celts your giving Rondo Waaaayyyy Too Much credit.
July 11th, 2008 at 12:48 pm
Rico says:
Why wasn’t Starbury selected for the Olympic Squad? Let’s showcase to the world what we’re all bout’!
July 11th, 2008 at 12:56 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
NYCBalla I hope that was a joke. If I was Utah I wouldn’t trade D-Will for NY’s entire team.
July 11th, 2008 at 1:02 pm
fiyaman says:
@justice
what games have u been watchin?
I cant stand everyone keep say starburst has talent. OF FUCKING COURSE HE GOT TALENT> EVERY FUCKING PLAYER IN THE L GOT TALENT. BUT TALENT DOESNT MAKE U SHIT IT JUST GIVES PEOPLE HOPE> UNLESS U PUT THAT TALENT TO GOOD USE ITS A WASTE AND MARBAURY PUT IT TO GOOD USE TO GET THAT CONTRACT HE HAS AND NOW HE”S A WASTE. fuck i got talent and im sure a lot of u on this post have talent but guess what we all here writing instead of playing. so in other words fuck talent u wouldnt be in the L w/o it so saying he has talent so he must be good is a load of shit and sounds like a bunch of people who watch STATS INSTEAD OF THE ACTUAL GAME. hey Sharif Abdul Rahim(or whatever his name is ) has talent. JJ REdick has talent.. damn Patrick O’bryant has talent
July 11th, 2008 at 1:08 pm
K Dizzle says:
lol @ “you might as well just write up the Press Release for his suspension for conduct detrimental to the team and wait to fill in the date.”
@ post 7 - I’d watch tape of Marbury, but it’s hard to find something that’s not 2 years old or older. Rondo’s got a chip and contributed big to the cause. If I didn’t know better, I’d think you were talkin bout Baron, CP3, Deron, CBills or Nash with the “flawless game” Marbury possesses. Dude is a career 32% three point shooter so what tape you watchin? Don’t believe the hype. Steph’s assists the last 5 seasons? 9.3, 8.1, 6.4, 5.4, 4.7. In 5 seasons, his assists have dropped by half. Stop livin in the past with this 20 and 8 stat.Dude hasn’t been relevant since 2004
July 11th, 2008 at 1:10 pm
Shuttlesworth says:
Pierce is being smart about the whole thing… He would never talk negatively about another player just for the heck of it. He’s doing his thing for the Celtics, recruiting…
The Celtics will need that backup (or new starter) at the PG spot, once Sam leaves. And they can get Steph at a very low cost after he gets bought out. Getting Steph meets a lot of their needs for the next season:
-He can run the point and handle the ball pressure, giving them two solid PGs (an issue whenever Rondo would sit)
-He can shift to the 2 spot to give Ray some rest, allowing you to run Rondo and Steph at the 1-2
-He’s low cost (after the buy-out), leaving enough space for that mid-level exception signee (Posey should stay!!!)
-He’s a proven scorer, giving the Celts that extar push of the bench… Defenders won’t be able to play off of him as they did Rondo.. Steph would make them pay!!
In the end, there ain’t noone better suited to have Steph commit to their team concept than KG!! You know this would work!!!
July 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Meica says:
Listen: Rondo is not an all-star. He’s not going to appear on your all NBA team anytime soon, but he was a major reason that the Celts won the championship with the amazing numbers he consistently put up in the Finals, he played better than Farmer or Fisher or any other PG the Celtics faced excluding Chauncy, and he’s only completed his second year! When did Deron Williams and Chris Paul truly breakout and become the stars that they are? This year; their third year. I’m not trying to say Rondo is better than he is, but his is legitimate. Any one who disagrees clearly has some beef with the Celts because that Rondo kid proved he could play when he earned his ring.
July 11th, 2008 at 1:13 pm
Damon says:
lol,
celts is giving rondo a little bit too much credit(good defender,not phenomenal but i like his game too), but justice is giving marbury wayyyy too much credit.
this guy would not accept being the backup of stuckey or calderon. toronto needs toughness, yes, but a guy who never laughs and doesn’t play defense isn’t the answer either.
he was very good, but his numbers just don’t show how he plays now. and even if he would be able to play like 3 years ago, he is a headcase, who wants such a guy on his team?
July 11th, 2008 at 1:18 pm
Damon says:
http://hoopshype.com/players/stephon_marbury.htm
that says it all. when they talk about his great stats, it says was…
July 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
justice says:
don’t get me wrong rondo is solid and he played well against fisher and farmer great athlete,however i he needs a ton of work,when someone plays 10 feet off of you in the NBA finals u need work…
i really think it’s a good fit but boston fans are d-bags and they won’t accept him until he comes in and does what he does best…a la randy moss..u guys are acting as if steph murdered someone,he got some a** in a truck so what…the knicks sucked when he got there remember? he gives 110% on the court period,he isnt the smartest cat in the world and we know this already.. but whoever takes a chance on him i think he’s gonna turn some heads…
July 11th, 2008 at 1:44 pm
Kudabeen says:
I still think Marbury has game, but does he still want to ball? I haven’t even heard from him in like a year. Where is he and where is his head at. People always forget you when your out of the spot light. I think it’s to his credit that he isn’t out there slapping babies and chasing stray cats in the streets to get attention. He is doing his thing off the radar, dealing with his life after losing two of the most important men in is life.
I’ll always remember him for the sickest Oop I’ve ever seen in my life and for NOT being better than AI after people was saying AI was a thug and wouldn’t last in the league and ranking him below Steph. Besides that, on his game he is a Top 10 PG easy…
Not a fan of his, but I respect his talent:
Yes it’s old, but it wasn’t his talent that deteriorated in the last years it was his drive:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A36DYJbMoSw&feature=related
July 11th, 2008 at 1:51 pm
Lee says:
Why would NY buy out a valuable expiring contract ????
July 11th, 2008 at 1:53 pm
girlybballluver says:
Rumor has it that Riley is giving Steph some serious consideration…if he finds his way to Miami…I can’t even imagine. Riley can’t be that dumb, can he?
July 11th, 2008 at 1:57 pm
justice says:
stop with that rondo’s got a chip shytt, the dude is a good defender, but if i have a better jumpshot than a pg in the nba finals it’s disturbing to me he is a very average player who’s skills have been enhanced by playing with 3 superstars wtf is hard to understand,yall play ball when u play with better people on ur team don’t u look better? he in the bottom half of starting pg’s in the league b4 jameer, after hinrich…
put rondo on the knicks and ask him to score 20 a game and get everyone involved..with that ungodly cast of characters and see how that works out for ya..lol
July 11th, 2008 at 2:20 pm
fatro says:
Steph couldn’t even suit up for the Washington generals.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:23 pm
Buffalo Brave says:
I would like to see marbury put it all together for just one year and see what happens.
Last season wasnt his fault.
It was their idiot owner who actually LET all that dirty laundry get aired.
Then steph got hurt.
He’s been a basket case, but someone earlier mentioned how he toned it down under isiah and he did. He was very good the year before last.
And you never know how the things he’s gone through, including the death of his father and failed business, may have helped him mature.
Remains to be seen
But if he got to Boston and bought in, hello repeat champions.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:29 pm
BxBaller says:
@ Justice
Finally fam, someone who I can agree with. You hit everything head on. I just don’t like other players talking about another team’s situation. I’m quite sure some Celtic fans were saying the same shit about Pierce last summer before Ainge pulled the trades off.
@Kudabeen
He’s in LA working out. One of the NY papers said that Walsh told homey to get in the best shape of his career so tha he could run D’Antoni’s system.
For the Record, Rondo is slightly overrated.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Rico says:
Rondo is the illest….bow down to the ring haters!
Best PGs in the Leage:
1. CP3
2. Rondo
3. Nash
4. Kidd
5. Boom-Dizzle
July 11th, 2008 at 2:32 pm
fiyaman says:
lmao @”he gives 110% on the court period”
again..what games have u been watchin or what shit u be smoking? can u hook me up cause i would LOVE to see what u see…
beside all that i do think that he would do good for whatever team he goes to (only if he gets bought out not if he gets traded) b/c he will have something to prove and he will most likely be on a winning team with a core thats not gonna stand for his BS..
July 11th, 2008 at 2:33 pm
NYCBalla says:
@Rico….No f-ing way! You’re crazy whacked in the head. Rondo #2 PG in the leage? You need to replace him with Deron Williams. How did he not even make your top 5?. The others you have substance.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:36 pm
fiyaman says:
all this Rondo talk is getting ridiculous ..
top 5? come on
July 11th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
justice says:
@bxballer thankyou!
as i stated earlier if training camp starts and steph is still on the roster and is healthy, good luck on getting a chance to finally start chris duhon!!!when has steph ever been out of shape or not given 100% on the court? never!
they need to keep him away from any interviews tv shows, etc..but he doesnt get into trouble, he just says dumb shytt all the time..he doesn’t pull guns and get arrested and shytt that’s not his style..but he will say stupid shytt…get him a pr and get him back on the court donnie
July 11th, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Damon says:
Marbury is in LA working out? sounds as if he works very “hard” every summer…
Reports of Stephon Marbury’s rigorous summer training sessions have failed to impress at least one of his teammates.
“It’s the same story every year,” says one veteran Knick. “He’s doing this, he’s doing that, he’s running hills, he’s lifting weights. And then on the first day of training camp he can’t even finish some of the drills.”
July 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
justice says:
what dude on the knicks has the authority to talk about steph?who is better than steph on that roster? help me out here…crickets
July 11th, 2008 at 2:43 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
@Justice (post 23) - I don’t care about what Marbury’s done off the court (that truck thing is hilarious, come on. “You getting in or what?” Amazing!) It’s his attitude that’s spanned his ENTIRE CAREER that makes everyone hate him. He got a pass early on because he was young, and no one’s expecting a kid to be completely mature. He’s over 30 now though, so it’s time to grow the f*** up.
I’m not giving Rondo too much credit. That entire rant of mine (besides the he started on a title team, which isn’t exactly a lie and the phenomenal defender part, which you can argue semantics all you want, but dude’s a hell of a defender) was about the potential he has. He’s a hard worker, so you can reasonably expect his skills to keep moderately improving. I also said, “The jumper WILL BE AVERAGE in 3 years.” not exactly comparing him to Ray Allen. His defense is amazing (rewatch game 6 of the Finals again for proof, argue semantics all you want, but no one can make a case that he’s not a good defender.) He strips guys all the time, plays passing lanes well, and is probably the best rebounding (usually defensive boards) PG in the league other than Jason Kidd. He’s not ever going to be your #1 guy, but he’s a hell of a piece.
Also, Rondo dropped 10-15 points plenty last year. Once his jumper develops (again, saying 3 years out TO GET TO AN AVERAGE JUMPER, assuming he keeps working hard like he has been, that’s more than reasonable) and people have to respect that, he’ll be able to use that incredible speed to get by guys a lot more since they won’t get to just sag off of him and roam like Kobe did in the Finals.
I’m telling you, he projects out as Tony Parker with defense in 3-5 years. TP’s not winning a title for you by himself, but you don’t have to worry about the PG spot when you have him either. That’s all I’m saying. the word All-Star was never uttered (though I think “unstoppable” may’ve been, probably an exaggeration there…)
July 11th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
steven says:
@justice,
wtf? wake up? the Marbury you’re talking about has long ago disappeared. dude’s a horrible facilitator, and his skill-set has diminished drastically + he’s not no heart, all ego, and zero intellect. keep rooting for your boy though, i bet he’ll look nice in one of those itallian unis!
July 11th, 2008 at 2:49 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
and yes, Rico, you are out of your mind. Rondo’s not a top 5 PG now. He’s not going to be top 2 ever unless CP3 or Deron get hurt (and even then, byt the time he could be, there’s Brandon Jennings and Ricky Rubio who could be right up there too.)
The top 5:
1. CP3
2. Deron
3. Nash
4. Chauncey
5. Baron
Rondo’s right around #15 now (just throwing that # out there, didn’t acutally come up w/ a list beyond this)
(Note: I kept Gil out of the top 5 discussion altogether since he didn’t play last year. If he comes back healthy, he’s right around #5, maybe higher.)
July 11th, 2008 at 2:51 pm
Damon says:
@celts:
I agree.
and with top pg list, you gotta admit he isn’t top 5.
he could be in 2-3 years.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:54 pm
GEE...She caught the vapors says:
Imma put this out there and then yall strike the comment like they do in court. In other words fa-get-about it.
If the Knicks buy dude out or trade him. What about him running Houston’s offense???
Ok ok wooo enough of that, just feels weird typing that ish lol. Noooo he just needs to go overseas and make his mark ova there.
Nice of Paul to recover and be diplomatic about him just needing a fresh start somewhere after you say he prolly ain’t working in a rebuilding effort for NY.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
Damon says:
oh yeah,rubio and jennings. it would be nice to see them in the league next season, but we’ll have to wait at least 1 year, even longer for ricky.
this dude is unbelievable for his age. never seen a guy do the things he does at that age.
July 11th, 2008 at 2:56 pm
BxBaller says:
I came up with a top 10 list a few days ago on this site, and you guys can’t tell me Steph isn’t a top 10 PG in this league. Seems to me, a lot of the Steph hate is coming from people who listen to whatever the media says, and not watch dude and come to a decision themselves.
July 11th, 2008 at 3:00 pm
justice says:
rondo is solid!! but a average jumper in 3 years is not good enough in the nba, he needs one like next year if they plan to repeat with him as their starting pg..this guy is no better than rafer alston honestly at least u have to guard rafer…
ray ray has about 2 years left,kg maybe 3..then what?
he gets away with not having a jumper now because of his cast,but they are old..they are leaving very soon celtics fans…rondo is not as good as u guys think (his ceiling may be more derek harper end of his career/charlie ward which isn’t that bad at all,rather than kevin johnson/maurice cheeks as some of seem to think)
July 11th, 2008 at 3:16 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
Here’s the thing w/ Rondo, his calling card is his DEFENSE and speed. It’s like talking about Ron Artest (only a sane one.) You can’t just talk offense. He hangs his hat on his defense (which is why the Rafer comparison is insane) which is damn good and what differentiates him from 90% of the PGs in the league. That’s a valuable skill. Right now, his offense is just drives and easy putbacks (again, cuz he’s an amazing rebounder for a point guard and not afraid at all to jump in there w/ the bigs.) When the jumper develops, that’s another offensive weapon to pair w/ his defense.
@Damon, just admitted he wasn’t top 5 now (thinking you said that before my comment posted on your computer.) I think he will be at some point down the line, but he does have to work on other parts of his game (shooting and finishing drives) first.
and Justice, a jumper in 3 years is fine since you yourself just said the big 3 will be around til at least then, so he can slowly develop it without the pressure of absolutely having to.
I’m done w/ this (Rondo) conversation. At this point, everyone either thinks I’m a huge homer/crazy or agrees. No one’s changing their mind, we’ll see in 3 years. Til then, we’re all just speculating anyway. Just know I didn’t say anything about how good he is RIGHT NOW (other than around the 15th best PG in the league, which, if that’s me being a homer, I’m the worst excuse for a homer ever…)
July 11th, 2008 at 3:19 pm
Damon says:
tony parker was an allstar with an average jumper
July 11th, 2008 at 3:20 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
about Steph, he’s not a top 10 PG in the league right now, he’s just not. He still has the ability to be and could be if he comes in w/ the right attitude next year, but ability and results are very different. Dude needs a fresh start.
July 11th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
oops, forgot Tony Parker on my best PGs list. He’s #5, drop Baron off
July 11th, 2008 at 3:30 pm
fiyaman says:
this post here is getting ridiculous.
BXballer and justice sound like the ones thats been all media and no actual viewing.. Can u give me 1 just one example where marbaury has been an asset to the Knicks. I dont like Duhon but i would take his 2yr contract over that a**h** marbaury.. I would play Mardy Collins b4 i play him.. like I said earlier i would pay him to not show up.. If i had to hire another intern just so he can have somethign to do and not show up to wrk i would.. this dude is a total cancer and anyone who says otherwise is either gay and sucking his dick right now or simply dont watch the games… of course he can play but BB is a TEAM (repeat TEAM) sport
since he’s been on the team the franchise has been going in reverse. im dying for this season to start and finish so he can be out of our hair forever.. if ur rooting for Marbaury to stay with the Knicks then ur not a Knicks fan and ur just as bad as Isiah..in other words u just like to see us suffer and if thats the case u need to change ur name..
NewJersey is coming to NY soon maybe u can root for them..
July 11th, 2008 at 3:32 pm
daquest?on says:
marbury fits perferctly with the celtics, i think marbury can still play at an elite level he just needs a fresh start, i also believe the same for steve francis
July 11th, 2008 at 3:40 pm
BxBaller says:
First off Mardy Collins is TRASH. We tried that experiment last season and it didn’t work.
@ fiyaman, I’ma Knicks fan, a TRUE fan. Steph is the best available pg that we have right now. Do you actually wanna go thru a Mardy Collins/Chris Duhon starting pg combo? I’m quite sure you remember the terrible Howard Eisley/Charlie Ward combo that we had before Steph got here. Plus can YOU name me 10 pgs that are better than Steph. I’ll give you (in no order)
Nash
Kidd
Williams
Paul
Billups
Davis
Parker
July 11th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
justice says:
oh my goodness mardy collins/chris duhon..we must hold onto steph things could get worse quick..i would like to actually be able to play with me favorite team in 2k9 without trading half the squad..please donnie let’s rebuild the right way..keep steph,jamal,the italian,balkman,lee even duhon as a backup and let’s right the ship and use the other dudes as pure bait…call mchale or chris wallace and well be good,as about mayo,gay,jefferson..we’ll get a nice deal guaranteed
July 11th, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Damon says:
the way marbury played the last two seasons?
devin harris
mike bibby
agent 0
July 11th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
fiyaman says:
to finish off ur list
im not talking about better because like i said earlier F**TALENT… 30yr old cant be going off talent anymore they need to show something..
with that said i’ll take
Hinrich
Rondo
A Miller
Felton
Calderon
Mo William (maybe)
R Sessions (dude from Milwakee sp? that yall might not know about)
kyle lowry
Udrih
and all the PG rookies that were drafted this yr( i still dont know y they took the Italian dude with Bayless and Augustin still out there..
yell right now i’d take Jamal Tinsley over that bum
and again this is not about who’s better cause bball is not a 1-on-1 sport and i think we will win more with these gus than with that fool
July 11th, 2008 at 4:02 pm
Damon says:
that would make 10, and if you want to take away 1 of those, ill just throw in jose calderon, who is better right now.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:03 pm
fiyaman says:
and yes I would love to get Mayo
rebuilding means getting rid of Starburst
July 11th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
GEE...She caught the vapors says:
Crunchbury is like a cancer. He just eats away at money from teams, pt from other players, eats away at team unity, eats away at the sanity of coaches and more.
Dude should be called “The Cancer” for real.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Celts Fan, "Kobe, Tell me how my @$$ tastes" says:
Flyaman, you had me ROLLIN “If i had to hire another intern just so he can have somethign to do and not show up to wrk i would” Classic!
@BX, you’re missing:
Calderon
Andre Miller
Devin Harris
Gil (I DQ’d him from my top 5 list, but Marbury missed almost all of last year too, so if we’re making that list, he’s in)
That’s just adding some definites too.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:23 pm
justice says:
@ fiyaman
hold up you said tinsley over steph, and then u state it’s not about talent? when has steph ever gotten arrested? or let off shots at the club? or gotten into fights repeatedly at the club..do you even hear about steph at the club?stop reading the ny post people..his body of work in the community speaks for itself…
and he comes from a hardworking family,they eat,sleep and train to be nba players,and look at the guy’s body (no homo) does he appear to be somebody that will let himself go?not to me…ya’ll are talking like this is antoine “overeater” walker, or eddie “please push away from the table” curry.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:24 pm
Rico says:
First off, I don’t care what y’all say about Rondo….dude’s got a ring and in the end that’s all that really matters.
Second - Starbury has just been dumped on pathetic teams. Yes, he is high maintenance, but on the right team with the right coach and teammates he could have a dramtically positive impact. He should play somewhere like Bo-town, LA, or MIA(no longer stands for missing in action).
July 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
fiyaman says:
@post #60
thats a gd post man ..funny
only thing i have to say is that i dont care about his fam or what he does off the court..all i want to know is if he gonna win games for us (and i dont mean 20games) the answer is NO..
and as far as PG skills i think Tinsley is better than Starbust and i dont .. and i do read the POst but i dont let media tell me how to think.. The media will have u thinking everything from NY is gd when really the only thing from NY thats worth talking about is the Knicks and the GMEN.. like i said i watch the games. thats what the NBA league pass is for.. Im down here in MIA and still make sure i catch my knicks games but i must admit since marbaury came i dont rush home to tham anymore.. (if i miss a qtr so be it)
and just for the record i never liked that dude.. when we traded for him i was the 1st one trashing his ass… I say the infection coming a mile away.. 2 bad isiah/Dolan/Walsh/Dantoni dont have my eyes
July 11th, 2008 at 4:32 pm
BxBaller says:
Are you F&*cking seroius. Hinrich, Udrih, Calderon, f&*cking Devin Harris, Rondo. I’ll give you Arenas (forgot about him) but everybody else, come on you’re just hating.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
GEE...She caught the vapors says:
Naw how many squads you got to play for before you get right. That is crazy. So what Steph suppose to go from team to team to team till he gets to the ideal team he wants and then start acting with sense and playing the same.
Sure maybe the first time it was the squad you was on. But after a while of moving from place to place you have to start lookin at yourself. Dude has had ample chances to show his worth in taking teams to the next level, making other players better around him and otherwise and failed.
Shoot it’s a bunch of players that will act right when you put them on championship squads. The plus comes when you mature enough to act right and play the same when you squad is strugglin and you still getting yours and carryin that squad the best you can while being mentally straight.
Again Crunchbury is an experiment gone wrong. I would love to see dude prevail just because “It feel good to see people up on it” but to say it’s because of the teams he was on is crazy.
Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice shame on me, and three on me again, and four on me again….get the picture.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:34 pm
BxBaller says:
Well there you go you read the NY Post, the place that has Peter Vecsey on their staff.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Damon says:
devin harris and jose calderon are better than what the cancer showed the last 3 seasons.
July 11th, 2008 at 4:45 pm
fiyaman says:
lol.. @ Bx
ur right maybe i shouldnt have admitted that
July 11th, 2008 at 4:54 pm
justice says:
@ fiyaman
u seem smart think about what ur saying dude..u have to care about what he does off the court..we are talking millions of dollars,i care if a dude like tinsley is going to the club every night and coming to practice drunk and underprepared it all works hand and hand.how the f do u win with a dude like that?
and his family having the history they do lets me know if im donnie that i can trust that this guy will put on his hard hat be ready to take care of business once camp opens,the fact that they repeatedly have prospects come out of that tree is no coincidence,they wake up at phucking 5am to work out from the time they turm 8yrs old..wtf..steph is tough as nails..i don’t think anyone of us can question that..once u have heart there’s always a chance..he loves the game,just keep him away from the reporters please…
July 11th, 2008 at 5:02 pm
Rico says:
@GEE…..are you a rapper? What city you rep?
July 11th, 2008 at 5:18 pm
BxBaller says:
no hard feelings fiyaman we all make mistakes, lol.
July 11th, 2008 at 5:56 pm
GEE...She caught the vapors says:
@ Rico naw not a rapper (prolly coulda been had I seriously tried).
As far as the city I am reppin hmmm?
Well born in
Colorado Springs, Co
lived in
Detroit, MI
Atlanta, GA
Greensboro, NC
Monroe, NC
Silas, AL
Tuskegee, AL
Currently living in Auburn, AL
So I am pretty much reppin Auburn but I got love for every place I stayed. Imma a Bama boi Durtties of the Durty South
July 11th, 2008 at 6:45 pm
Rico says:
@Gee….I’m trying to get into the rap scene. I’ve sent Jay-Z and other major producers like 20 mix-tapes over the last 15 years and have had some positive feedback, just haven’t been signed, y’know. Rappin’ and ballin’ is my life. I’m ill.
July 11th, 2008 at 7:49 pm
godfreyallstar says:
rondo isnt even better than tony parker
1.paul
2.nash
3.davis
4.iverson(kinda)
5.williams
6.kidd
7.parker
8.rondo
9.arenas(could be higher but we have to see how he has recovered)
10. jose calderon
July 11th, 2008 at 7:52 pm
godfreyallstar says:
deron aint no cp’s level either…i hate how people always say that
July 11th, 2008 at 7:54 pm
GEE...She caught the vapors says:
No doubt I got a homey out in CO trying to get on as well he do some ill production on beats too.
He all on youtube and stuff with his. He been at it for a minute. It seems as if it takes some forever to get on and others overnight.
Man I wish you the best just keep grindin dude.
Rico go to youtube and type in boondock or boondoc and his stuff should come up. Dude is like that seriously.
stay on ya grizzly Rico hope the best for ya pimpin.
July 12th, 2008 at 3:06 am
daquest?on says:
@ Rico lmfao uve sent mixtapes to all those ppll over 20 years u havent been signed and all uve got have been positive feedback lmfao gtfoh man that aint positive feedback that means u suck man or u sound like every other person that tries to rap n e wayz good luck with that
July 12th, 2008 at 7:11 am
daquest?on says:
click on my name cuz that’s how I roll. Brothas shittin on brothas brings me happiness….
July 13th, 2008 at 12:03 am
daquest?on says:
lmfao pretty funny and real mature
July 14th, 2008 at 1:55 am
Man Up says:
Steph is done, it’s a wrap. That 20 and 8 shit has been dead for a minute. He needs to move on as does the Knicks. The NY experiment didn’t work so keep it moving. I actually feel sorry for his wife the way he be shittin on her. Let me take that back, I really don’t she eatin because of his skills. Also, if all else fails she has his kids so she straight money wise if Starbury really f**** Up.
July 14th, 2008 at 6:06 am
nong mu says:
my take’s like- rondo= a winner, marbury= a loser. easy.