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	<title>Comments on: We Reminisce: Larry Bird hits the Hawks for 60 points</title>
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		<title>By: NYCnyce</title>
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		<dc:creator>NYCnyce</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 26 Mar 2009 17:03:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yo,  check out this video of Doc Rivers  talking about that night.  Apparently Bird was  trash talking big time  and calling out his shots.  As his shots kept getting more and more ridiculous, the Hawks bench actually started clapping for him.  The clip has footage of two guys falling out after  Bird throws up a crazy three.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFhNi9t4L4

&quot;He’d be the least athletic SF in the league today. And he might be the best.&quot;

I think that means we have a poor definition of what an athlete is.  It means  devaluing things like reaction time, vision, hand-eye cordination, stamina etc. Those skills allowed him to do things that tons of other &quot;athletes&quot; in the league could never do.  Bird averaged 10 rebounds a game for his career and 1.7 steals a game.  How many forwards or centers averaged more steals than that for a career?  2.   


Remember that famous shot where missed a 20 footer and then caught his rebound behind the backboard and in the air switched hands and scooped it in with left?  How many players could make that shot? In the History of the NBA?  3-4 maybe?  Red Auerbach said it was the greatest play he&#039;d ever seen. That move seems to me to be amazing athletic play, but that&#039;s not the thing that gets talked about when you talk about &quot;athletes.&quot;  

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5Gf4O9OiY 

Bird&#039;s greatest athletic ability seemed to be the ability to experience what everyone on the court was doing and to be able to see things almost in slow motion.  I bet if you could test that somehow he and Wayne Gretzky would be similarly talented that way.  That famous play where he steals the inbound pass from Isiah Thomas and hits DJ with the Pass?  If you just see the slow mo highlights, you don&#039;t see his full greatness.  Watch that play in real time.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_RJ5XN8TK8

The ball goes out of bounds and there&#039;s no time outs, everyone&#039;s  scrambling on the court, Danny Ainge is  just climbing back from the stand. It&#039;s basically chaos.  Watch Bird.  First he runs to cover an open man at the right of the foul line and then BAM, he readjusts, and all of sudden he&#039;s in front of Laimbeer  on the left baseline.  He closes chest to chest on the first guy he covered,  but he&#039;s only there for a millisecond and he sees where the play is going.   Most athletes would not have  even  seen  Laimbeer was open,  let alone make the close and get a clean steal and be able to throw the pass. Awesome play by DJ too on that play.

It&#039;s funny,  due to the low quality of the YouTube clip, if you pause it, when Bird running to guard the second man, Bird is literally a blur.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yo,  check out this video of Doc Rivers  talking about that night.  Apparently Bird was  trash talking big time  and calling out his shots.  As his shots kept getting more and more ridiculous, the Hawks bench actually started clapping for him.  The clip has footage of two guys falling out after  Bird throws up a crazy three.</p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFhNi9t4L4" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6iFhNi9t4L4</a></p>
<p>&#8220;He’d be the least athletic SF in the league today. And he might be the best.&#8221;</p>
<p>I think that means we have a poor definition of what an athlete is.  It means  devaluing things like reaction time, vision, hand-eye cordination, stamina etc. Those skills allowed him to do things that tons of other &#8220;athletes&#8221; in the league could never do.  Bird averaged 10 rebounds a game for his career and 1.7 steals a game.  How many forwards or centers averaged more steals than that for a career?  2.   </p>
<p>Remember that famous shot where missed a 20 footer and then caught his rebound behind the backboard and in the air switched hands and scooped it in with left?  How many players could make that shot? In the History of the NBA?  3-4 maybe?  Red Auerbach said it was the greatest play he&#8217;d ever seen. That move seems to me to be amazing athletic play, but that&#8217;s not the thing that gets talked about when you talk about &#8220;athletes.&#8221;  </p>
<p><a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5Gf4O9OiY" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sN5Gf4O9OiY</a> </p>
<p>Bird&#8217;s greatest athletic ability seemed to be the ability to experience what everyone on the court was doing and to be able to see things almost in slow motion.  I bet if you could test that somehow he and Wayne Gretzky would be similarly talented that way.  That famous play where he steals the inbound pass from Isiah Thomas and hits DJ with the Pass?  If you just see the slow mo highlights, you don&#8217;t see his full greatness.  Watch that play in real time.<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_RJ5XN8TK8" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H_RJ5XN8TK8</a></p>
<p>The ball goes out of bounds and there&#8217;s no time outs, everyone&#8217;s  scrambling on the court, Danny Ainge is  just climbing back from the stand. It&#8217;s basically chaos.  Watch Bird.  First he runs to cover an open man at the right of the foul line and then BAM, he readjusts, and all of sudden he&#8217;s in front of Laimbeer  on the left baseline.  He closes chest to chest on the first guy he covered,  but he&#8217;s only there for a millisecond and he sees where the play is going.   Most athletes would not have  even  seen  Laimbeer was open,  let alone make the close and get a clean steal and be able to throw the pass. Awesome play by DJ too on that play.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s funny,  due to the low quality of the YouTube clip, if you pause it, when Bird running to guard the second man, Bird is literally a blur.</p>
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		<title>By: Heaven Is A Playground</title>
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		<dc:creator>Heaven Is A Playground</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Sep 2008 03:06:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bird&#039;s celtics versus MJ and his Unbeatabulls. MJ would drain the game winninng jumper in the deciding Eastern Conf. game. 

MJ is the god of basketball, and no one will ever take that a way from him. Bird is a nice player, and he dominated the game in everyway possible, but he would never take out Jordan&#039;s team, not when Jordan was on those crazy 3-peat runs. Too much fire in Jordan to lose to a guy like bird. And I&#039;m glad Zeke got his ass served in 1991, he deserved it, and if Jordan didn&#039;t change his game from a scoring machine to the most complete player of all time, the Det-Chi 1991 series could have went to 6-7 games.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bird&#8217;s celtics versus MJ and his Unbeatabulls. MJ would drain the game winninng jumper in the deciding Eastern Conf. game. </p>
<p>MJ is the god of basketball, and no one will ever take that a way from him. Bird is a nice player, and he dominated the game in everyway possible, but he would never take out Jordan&#8217;s team, not when Jordan was on those crazy 3-peat runs. Too much fire in Jordan to lose to a guy like bird. And I&#8217;m glad Zeke got his ass served in 1991, he deserved it, and if Jordan didn&#8217;t change his game from a scoring machine to the most complete player of all time, the Det-Chi 1991 series could have went to 6-7 games.</p>
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		<title>By: that's whats up</title>
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		<dc:creator>that's whats up</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 02:28:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>that&#039;s the most active and excited I&#039;ve ever seen any hoops crowd in New Orleans</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>that&#8217;s the most active and excited I&#8217;ve ever seen any hoops crowd in New Orleans</p>
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		<title>By: Ian the statboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian the statboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:47:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kevin
magic is not my fav man dont say that i hate the lakers 
the admiral is my fav player ever
is just that since sg and sf are the least important positions it works against jordan when doing my rankings</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kevin<br />
magic is not my fav man dont say that i hate the lakers<br />
the admiral is my fav player ever<br />
is just that since sg and sf are the least important positions it works against jordan when doing my rankings</p>
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		<title>By: Ian the statboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian the statboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Aug 2008 00:44:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>kevin
first of all it wasnt me that said he played in a weak ass league 
second mj dominated in the 90s magic the 80s and no one in their right mind would say the 90s were tougher
three mj didnt play against players like the sgs we have today 
four mj took magics last championship please it was dead dynasty by then it was the same reason the bulls could finally beat detroit cuz everyone was already old or retired 
five i would give anything to see them bulls in the 99 finals or 94 playin vs a team with a center 
six im not sayin bird is better cuz i dont care but no jordan is not the greatest ever imo.
seven yeah im on crack cuz i dont agree with u gtfoh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>kevin<br />
first of all it wasnt me that said he played in a weak ass league<br />
second mj dominated in the 90s magic the 80s and no one in their right mind would say the 90s were tougher<br />
three mj didnt play against players like the sgs we have today<br />
four mj took magics last championship please it was dead dynasty by then it was the same reason the bulls could finally beat detroit cuz everyone was already old or retired<br />
five i would give anything to see them bulls in the 99 finals or 94 playin vs a team with a center<br />
six im not sayin bird is better cuz i dont care but no jordan is not the greatest ever imo.<br />
seven yeah im on crack cuz i dont agree with u gtfoh</p>
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		<title>By: iain.</title>
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		<dc:creator>iain.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:58:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>it aint easy being green:
a league cant be &quot;full&quot; of above average players, impossible. But still not the most stupid point you made in that sentence.

also, when bird lined up for a foul shot with no line up in the 2nd half, one of the announcers is talking about someone called &quot;Ronnie Ronstein&quot;. hahaa</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>it aint easy being green:<br />
a league cant be &#8220;full&#8221; of above average players, impossible. But still not the most stupid point you made in that sentence.</p>
<p>also, when bird lined up for a foul shot with no line up in the 2nd half, one of the announcers is talking about someone called &#8220;Ronnie Ronstein&#8221;. hahaa</p>
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		<title>By: kevin k</title>
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		<dc:creator>kevin k</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:17:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>ian the statboy, i never said you had to agree that MJ was the best or what not. Its just that you stating that MJ played in a weak-ass league is what makes you smoke crack.  MJ dominated when guys like Magic, Bird, and I. Thomas when they were in their prime.  Thomas was jealous of MJ, Bird called MJ a god, and MJ took Magic&#039;s last championship opportunity away.  Plus MJ had no equals during the 90s. So since you stated that MJ played in a weak-ass league, I guess your favorite and the best player Magic played in a weak-ass league as well?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>ian the statboy, i never said you had to agree that MJ was the best or what not. Its just that you stating that MJ played in a weak-ass league is what makes you smoke crack.  MJ dominated when guys like Magic, Bird, and I. Thomas when they were in their prime.  Thomas was jealous of MJ, Bird called MJ a god, and MJ took Magic&#8217;s last championship opportunity away.  Plus MJ had no equals during the 90s. So since you stated that MJ played in a weak-ass league, I guess your favorite and the best player Magic played in a weak-ass league as well?</p>
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		<title>By: it aint easy being green</title>
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		<dc:creator>it aint easy being green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 20:09:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ isiah
 if bird were black, the only thing that would change would be an increase in his black fan base. hes still the g.o.a.t.

@ kevin k
 if you took mj and bird and switched generations, bird would be considered twice as good as he was, and mj would have been like t-mac, just another above average player in a league full of them. no disrespect to mj, its just the way i feel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ isiah<br />
 if bird were black, the only thing that would change would be an increase in his black fan base. hes still the g.o.a.t.</p>
<p>@ kevin k<br />
 if you took mj and bird and switched generations, bird would be considered twice as good as he was, and mj would have been like t-mac, just another above average player in a league full of them. no disrespect to mj, its just the way i feel.</p>
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		<title>By: Ian the statboy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ian the statboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 16:40:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>hes better than u isiah</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>hes better than u isiah</p>
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		<title>By: Isiah Thomas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Isiah Thomas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Aug 2008 13:59:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If Larry Bird were black, he&#039;d have been just another player.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If Larry Bird were black, he&#8217;d have been just another player.</p>
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