Rick Carlisle Is Bringing Back the Old Jason Kidd
J-Kidd will be smiling with Carlisle in ‘08Rick Carlisle will make his stamp on the Dallas Mavericks next season. And he’s planning to do it by letting Jason Kidd make his mark on the squad after two rough months last year in which he and Avery Johnson never really meshed. That doesn’t mean that he, or anyone else in Dallas, expects the bleach-blond Kidd to show up at camp on day one. (Goodness, we know that nobody wants to see that.) It’s simply a matter of allowing Kidd to make plays without feeling constrained by the system.
“You look at Jason Kidd, and we had him for two months,” Jason Terry said. “This is one of the greatest point guards to ever play the game. And two months is really cheating us.
“Now we’re going to have him through training camp, and he’s going to put his stamp on this team.”
Carlisle plans on opening things up, blowing up some of the intricate X’s and O’s of Johnson’s notoriously intricate system. And with a team of cagey veterans like Kidd, Dirk, Jason Terry, and Josh Howard, it makes sense to unshackle them from making predetermined cuts and movements – especially on the fast break.
“One thing that Rick wants to do now is give guys more freedom and run – and have a secondary break that doesn’t have a lot of pre-ordained moves.”
Over the course of the 51 games that Kidd played in New Jersey last season, his numbers were significantly higher in assists, points and rebounds than they were during the 29 games he played in Dallas.
If Carlisle can get Kidd to produce the stats he put up in NJ, will the Kidd-for-Devin Harris trade be remembered as a success?
Source: Dallas News
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:58 am
Izzy says:
“Over the course of the 51 games that Kidd played in New Jersey last season, his numbers were significantly higher in assists, points and rebounds than they were during the 29 games he played in Dallas.”
— He was also significantly younger than the 29 games he played in Dallas.
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:05 am
MSkittle says:
Josh Howard is a “cagey veteran?”
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:14 am
nerditry says:
Who cares if he can? The move to trade for Kidd was a knee-jerk reaction by Cubes and not once in your post did you even mention the possibility of the Mavs winning a title.
That’s the mark as to whether this matters…if it gets them closer to a title.
Additionally, we’re talking about Dirk/Howard/Terry and not Howard/James/Bryant who Kidd played with in the Olympics and still looked like an old car. If Kidd can’t do it for 5-10 minutes at a time with the world’s greatest, why such lofty expectations when the Mavs are ground into a halfcourt game?
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:26 am
smity far away says:
the answer is yes…maybe dallas can surprise some people and win more games than expected…
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:30 am
dukesman2000 says:
Kidd still has to face CP3 and D-Will
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:50 am
ERIC says:
It all depends on their final ranking in the West and if they advance in the playoffs.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:20 am
Brown says:
If they win a title, yes. If not, no.
Of course, it also depends on how Devin Harris’s career turns out too.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:47 am
Kobeef says:
Who does Rick think he is? Marty McFly?
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:57 am
Dagomar says:
Josh Howard is a douchey veteran.
Kidd ’s an old, old man. Sometimes players just get older, and it’s usually not a gradual process for points. They keep running until they run off a cliff. Names don’t win titles; Kidd’s on his way down, and Harris will be running for years. Bad, bad, bad trade.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:58 am
hahns says:
the only way this trade is labled a success is if devin harris becomes a bust in nj and kidd takes them to at least the western conference finals
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:01 am
heartbreaker85 says:
the problem with avery johnson was that he left kidd on paul in that series when he could have switched jason terry (who was a respected defender in college)full time on the pg version of mj.
kidd could probably hold his own to bonzi and morris.
dallas needs to get a quality big man to put alongside dirk. a rebounding mofo like udonis haselm or someone gritty.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:03 am
Ian says:
lets see
davis
parker
williams
nash
paul
roy
vs
jason kidd
not good for dallas
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:04 am
Prof. TX says:
The olympics exposed that Kidd still has problems, even with an amazingly talented team. He was probably the only guy on that squad that could be left unguarded and still not be a threat to anyone. Unless you count defense, then he’s a threat to his own team.
His best years are behind him. If the Mavs think they can go back in time and turn him into a younger Jason Kidd, then they might as well take Shaq and Horry with them because those guys were good five years ago too.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:05 am
heartbreaker85 says:
and gimme a break, even if the trade didnt go down, devin harris would have had his ass handed to him by paul/dwill/parker.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:14 am
that's whats up says:
Right now he is Jason Kid, because he lost half his D a few years ago
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:17 am
Ian says:
heart breaker
harris is a better defender now than kidd and can only get better.
lol post 15
thats whats up
so hes name is really ason kid
remember no J
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:21 am
BxBaller says:
Kidd can still run, plus Avery’s system wasn’t a good fit for him. Besides Devin Harris is extremely overrated. He doesn’t do anything an average pg can’t do.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 am
Mo says:
heartbreaker, Terry had his chance to guard Paul too. Then Isiah had the idea of going bigger with Stackhouse and George. It didn’t matter. And you’re probably right about Devin. He didn’t fair so well against Paul this past season either. With neither the Mavs or the Nets. If Harris had been in the Hornets/Mavs series, he probably would’ve looked to score more than Kidd but I don’t think he would’ve done any better at stopping CP3.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:57 am
Mo says:
Ooops, I didn’t mean to say Isiah, I meant to say Avery.
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:22 pm
rodnets says:
LMFAO @15 Quote of the day
But Kidd will succeed in Dallas, the problem is that their teamates are chokers, overrated and loosers.
Anyway his numbers will raise this year
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
MJAX says:
Jason is up there in age by hoop standards, but other than the superstar guards you all have named (cp3, dwill, tp, bdizzle, nash an roy, who else would you pick above him? And what player in the L can guard those guys anyway? Jason may go down as the best passing point guard on the break in history battling it out in the end with nash an magic. That’s what we are talking about, his point guard skills (aka: passing) not his scoring point guard skills like the entire list mentioned.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:00 pm
Ian says:
mjax
i mentioned those guy cuz those are the playoffs guards he might face in the west
its true nobody guards them but at least they play each other to a draw any given night kidd cant
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:00 pm
kevin k says:
like it matters. you have an idiot named J howard, a cold or hot J terry, and Dirk. It doesn’t matter what Rick Carlie does or do, J kidd will get owned by CP3, TP, D-Will, or Nash in the playoffs.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:35 am
MJAX says:
Get owned like Billups did Rondo or any of these guys did Farmar, and whoever else the fakers have in their point backcourt and look what happened. Now I am by no means saying the Cubin’s will make it back to the ship, but gettin owned by a pt guard and winning ships are two different beast.