The 15 Best Players in the NBA
Chris Paul (photo. Chad Griffith)Last week, when I previewed the New Jersey Nets ‘08-09 season, I unintentionally started an argument by calling Vince Carter “one of the 15 best players in the League.” Some people agreed with my assessment — which admittedly was made at the spur of the moment — while some thought that was way too high to rank Vince. As Dime reader Dagwaller put it, “There are probably five players in the ATLANTIC better than VC.” Nick had a pretty what I felt was the best response: “VC is a top 15 talent, but not a top 15 player.” And Phil politely asked, “VC a top 15? Are you out of your mind?”
Well, no. At least I didn’t think so last week. But I took the weekend and gave it some thought, and from that I put together my current list of the 15 best players in the NBA:
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Duncan
4. Chris Paul
5. KG
6. D-Wade
7. T-Mac
8. Dwight Howard
9. Iverson
10. Paul Pierce
11. Dirk
12. Tony Parker
13. Deron Williams
14. Steve Nash
15. Amare
By my count, Vince lands somewhere in the 20’s; not bad by any means, but as stated before, lower than where his talent should have him.
What does your Top 15 look like?
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:46 pm
justice says:
Ming has too make it, but for who? austin clear up how u came to conclusion on ur list,the merits etc..cause it’s about to get ugly in 5,4,3,2
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:51 pm
WEST says:
My Top 10 in order…
1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. CP
4. Duncan
5. D Wade
6. Paul Pierce
7. Jason Kidd
8. KG
9. Deron Williams
10.Steve Nash
TMAC is left off because of injuries, Iverson because of age, DHoward becase of inexperience,and Dirk because he’s a choker.
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
spindlest says:
I’d put a healthy arenas in for tony parker, and move ai down a little, but that’s just me.
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:53 pm
justice says:
Howard is way too high and amare is way too low, that guy is as good as any post player in the league right now not named duncan..
ill do my own
kobe
lebron
duncan
chris paul
d-wade
paul pierce
kg
t-mac
amare
iverson
dirk
d-will
nash
ginobli
yao ming
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
Big V says:
Would you rather have VC or a healthy Arenas?
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:55 pm
112 says:
Where’s CB4?
At this stage of their careers I rather have Bosh over T-MAC, A.I.
I’m not saying his Top 5 but come on.
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
omar says:
WEST says…….don’t be stupid my little stupid clown jason kidd hahahhaahahah thats funny he might not even be top 5 point guard in the league oooo you made my day hadn’t laugh like that in a minute…..
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
112 says:
Where’s CB4?
At this stage of their careers I rather have Bosh over T-MAC, A.I.
I’m not saying he is Top 5 but come on.
September 22nd, 2008 at 2:56 pm
lakeshow85 says:
1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. CP3
4. Duncan
5. D-Wade
6. KG
7. Nash
8. A.I.
9. T-Mac
10. Deron Williams
11. Amare
12. Yao
13. Dirk
14. Paul Pierce
15. Dwight Howard
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:01 pm
T Dubbs says:
When I think of the *best* players, I’m thinking of clutch performers who lead their teams to W’s.
1. Kobe
2. Lebron
3. CP
4. Wade
5. McGrady
6. KG
7. Deron Williams
8. Joe Johnson
9. Carmelo
10. Baron Davis
11. Dwight Howard
12. Amare
13. Dirk
14. Josh Smith
15. Ray Allen
Close, but didn’t make the cut = Pierce, Nash, Duncan, Kidd, and VC.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Duncan
4. Chris Paul
5. Wade
6. KG
7. Parker
8. Dwight Howard
9. PP
10. D-Will
11. Dirk
12. T-Mac
13. Iverson
14. Amare
15. Nash
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:02 pm
Ian says:
west
hehehehehe i know this is an opinion thing but wow jason kidd
austin my pics (kg is top high and howard and amare should be closer)
1A duncan (no player gives u a better chance at a ring)
1B kobe
1C lebron
chris paul
wade
dirk
howard
amare
kg
manu
tmac
parker
deron
pierce
yao
nash
west
again kidd?????????????????????
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:03 pm
James says:
Kobe
Lebron
Paul
Duncan
Melo
Wade
Dwight
Deron Williams
T-Mac
Steve Nash
Amare
Dirk
Brandon Roy
Josh Howard
Gerald Wallace
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:04 pm
Ian says:
t dubbs
hahahaha
how can u start your post with
“When I think of the *best* players, I’m thinking of clutch performers who lead their teams to W’s.”
and but kg ahead of duncan lol
and he doesnt even make top 15 DUNCAN!!!!!
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
James says:
I forget Pierce and KG put them at 9-10 then slide everyone down
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:07 pm
Kyle L.S. says:
I’d take Dirk out and put Yao Ming in at his spot.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:09 pm
justice says:
@ian
u took the words outta my mouth, how doesn’t duncan not make anyone’s top 15..kill urselves if u did that..im surprised ginobli isn’t in a lot of top 15’s either,but that’s understandible..i hate the spurs as much as the next guy but christ..
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
Ian says:
justice
and like i said not only did he leave him out of the top 15
did u read his starting line about getting his teams wins and being clutch lol and placed kg ahead of timmeh
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:11 pm
isotope says:
really dime? No Yao? Paul Pierce ahead of Yao? We’re talking about the best player now. Not the best career or the healthiest. Just the top 15 players in the NBA now.
Kobe
Lebron
CP
Duncan
Wade
TMac
KG
Iverson
DHoward
Amare
Deron
Yao
Dirk
Parker
Pierce
I know its all opinion so i aint tripping.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
TomG says:
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Chris Paul
4. D-Wade
5. KG
6. C Bosh
7. Dwight Howard
8. Steve Nash
9. Paul Pierce
10. Deron Williams
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:12 pm
Ian says:
manu makes my top 15 hes the second best sg imo
but if we expanded to 20-25 list he should be in all of them
but no duncan in top 15 the best player of the last 10 seasons lol
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:13 pm
Austin Burton says:
Yao and Bosh were about 16th and 17th for me.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:15 pm
jeremy says:
manu, pierce, and CB4 are all better than iverson right now
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:17 pm
Ashlov says:
Wade has more heart than Lebron, and quite possibly, more talent. If he’s able to stay healthy, watch for a MVP season. Hell, he might even unseat Kobe as numero uno by the time he’s done. Arenas is about to become Penny 2008, sorry Wizards fans. Like Chris Rock used to say on ‘In Loving Color’, “Good lord that’s alot of money!”
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Dwyane Wade
3. Lebron James
4. Chris Paul
5. Dwight Howard
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Tim Duncan
8. Dirk Nowitzki
9. Tracy McGrady
10.Paul Pierce
11. Amare Stoudemaire
12. Tony Parker
13. Deron Williams
14. Michael Beasley (Calling it now)
15. Steve Nash
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:20 pm
vinny says:
1.LABRON
2.KOBE
3.Duncan
4.CP3
5.KG
6.TONY Parker- rings baby!
7.Amare
8.Paul Pierce
9.AI
10 D. Williams
11.Nash
12.Dwight Howard
13.D Wade-would be higher-but health is a concern
14.Richard Hamilton- clutch and always plays unlike always hurt T-Mac
15.Dirk-at least he got to the finals once
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Diego says:
I would take out T-Mac (injuries–every season), Iverson (too old–would you really take him over Carmello?), and Nash (too old–saw marked decline last year).
Add: Joe Johnson (just peaking) and unstoppable (ask the Celtics stoppers), Carmello, and ________ (Bosh? Brand? Yao? Ginobli? I am not sure).
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:23 pm
Ian says:
diego
why do u write carmeLLo u make him sound european
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:28 pm
the mambw says:
Yao and ginobili are definite top 15.
Dirk is overrated and no way better than manu… yao is the best center in the league till further notice. Brandon roy is getting closer. And andrew bynum will be a beast soon too
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:29 pm
JDig says:
1.Lebron
2.Kobe
3.CP3
4.Duncan
5.Garnett
6.D-Wade
7.Howard
8.Melo
9.Amare
10.D-Will
11.Nash
12.Bosh
13.T-Mac
14.Dirk
15.Tony Parker
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:33 pm
justice says:
Yeah the don’t really come more clutch than the big fundamental, dude is automatic in crunch time..that phoenix series says it all
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:35 pm
Kudabeen says:
I’d take Iverson over Melo. That way I wouldn’t have to ask for effort…
LeBron
Kobe
KG - versatility puts him here
CP3
DWade
Duncan
Amare
Paul Pierce
Deron Williams
Iverson
Nash
Dwight
Baron Davis
Ray Allen
Rip
Moving on Up (Andre Iguodala, Roy, Al Thorton,) ^^^^^^^^^
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:37 pm
dukesman2000 says:
Kobe
Lebron
Dwayne Wade
Paul Pierce
Tracy McGrady
Allen iverson
Carmelo Anthony
Baron Davis
Kevin Garnett
Tony Parker
Steve Nash
Amare
D-Howard
Dirk
Tim Duncan
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Rdub4Sho says:
Sadly enough VC has other wordly talent, but a tin man’s approach….Why God blesses someone with such raw ability and yet the drive of a Ford Fiesta makes zero sense to me! Top 5 Talent VC makes the list, Top 15 players and he cant even crack it…and that speaks volumes!
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:38 pm
Kudabeen says:
I have to drop every from Iverson down for Manu…He is too much of a problem for people in the league to be denied.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:44 pm
SayItAintSo says:
Alright, my top five best players in the league something like this:
1) Brandon Roy
2) Jamal Crawford
3) Nate Robinson
4) Jason Terry
5) Martell Webster
Oh, and sticking with the ‘homer’ theme…worst player in the league:
Spencer Hawes
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:46 pm
Tyrone says:
Them cats are mad good y’all - I gotsa go with King James as the best of the best y’all. He got ability to get mad buckets and ability to dish dope dimes…
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Daily boy says:
I’m checking in on the subject, here’s my list
Kobe
lebron
cp3
kg
wade
howard(superman)
duncan
cb4
pierce
carmelo
t-mac
d-will
B-diddy
nash
dirk
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
sans says:
@ TDUBBS…how the fuck can you make a statement about clutch performers and then leave Pierce off your list? Really? No Duncan is a travesty too, and Nash ain’t that clutch.
Lebron
Kobe
Duncan
KG
Paul Pierce
Chris Paul
DWade
Deron
Amare
Dwight
Yao
Stevie
Bosh
AI
Melo
And stop putting TP in every list, Austin.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Tyrone says:
Them cats are mad good y’all - I gotsa go with King James as the best of the best y’all. He got ability to get mad buckets and ability to dish dope dimes…
True thugz never lie.
Tyrone
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:49 pm
Daily boy says:
@dukesman2000 you must be on crack not to have CP3 not as one of the top 15 players in the L.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:50 pm
Pete says:
My top 15:
1-LeBron
2-Kobe
3-CP3
4-Dwight
5-Amare
6-AI
7-Melo
8-DWade
9-Yao
10-Dirk
11-Baron
12-Booz
13-TD
14-Al Jefferson
15-Bosh
And I would rate Tony Parker in the high 50’s
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:51 pm
Zibala says:
Slam has VC at 36 and if you see the players before him i think they might have him a little based on the past few seasons
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Big Sia says:
VC > Bosh, Melo, Tmac, Roy, Dirk, Rip, Gino…………
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:54 pm
Big Sia says:
VC > Bosh, Melo, Tmac, Roy, Dirk, Rip, Gino…………
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
V says:
woah woah woah ya’ll are talking about iversons too old!!??? the man plays 10x better than most 33 year olds and he’s still one of the best out there. Lmao but you’ll put Jason Kidd on your list oh my
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:56 pm
Quest??? says:
some of yall are crazy not having iverson on ur lists or listiing him super low, AI is Top Six and if he wasnt 33 i would list him number one.
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:57 pm
Ian says:
pete
if denver had the 6th and 7th best player in the league they would be a good team
and booz over duncan lol sureeeeeeee
again flawed judgement if booz is better than duncan and u rate parker in the 50s then how come the jazz dont have the rings and the spurs do
so lets put this in a simple way
u rate
melo and ai as the best duo over deron and booz which u rate second best over duncan and parker which u rate third best
yet only duncan and parker have wins while your best duo can barely make the playoffs
gtfoh
sans
parker is in many lists
not only his
i have him on mine also
September 22nd, 2008 at 3:59 pm
Big Sia says:
VINCE
CARTER
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:01 pm
Ian says:
kobe duncan lebron cp3
are the 4 best players in the league in any order
after that there is a small gap
anyone that messes the top 4 is biased, a hater , or talking out their asses
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:03 pm
isotope says:
how u goin take TMac out cuz of injuries and leave DWade in?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:06 pm
rathauneak says:
Don’t want to rename the entire list, but I’d DEFINITELY take a healthy Arenas and Joe Johnson over Dirk and Tony Parker.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:07 pm
Ian says:
quest
if everyone were in their prime
iverson would be top 5 but not 1
duncan
shaq
kobe
lebron
iverson
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:08 pm
Big Sia says:
Shaq Prime > Duncan Prime
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:09 pm
Big Sia says:
and where the FUCK is VC
VC > Bosh, Melo, Tmac, Roy, Dirk, Rip, Gino…………
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:11 pm
Ian says:
big sia
i have to disagree
on that one
its been the duncan era after jordan retired not that shaq one
shaq had the more dominant three year gap but in the ten year gap duncan dominated it longer
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:14 pm
Big V says:
VC < Bosh, Melo, Tmac, Roy, Dirk, Rip, Gino…….
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Big V says:
@Sia,
AB stated in the post that he has VC somewhere in the 20’s.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:15 pm
Ian says:
lol big v
i didnt want to burst his bubble
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:17 pm
Rdub4sho says:
Top 5 Talent, VC is in….Top 15 Player List and he cant even crack the list….that alone speaks volumes!!
Having other worldly talent and ZERO drive blows my mind…VC will get it one day, and that day will be too late!
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:18 pm
Sam I Am says:
lol he might snap
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:20 pm
Big Sia says:
fuck what AB stated….
Anyone who has Vince out of the top 15 does not watch Nets games.
THREE PEOPLE AVERAGED 21-5-5……
KOBE
LEBRON
VINCE
On one ankle….. clowns.
Averaged 29 over the last 15 games
On one ankle.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:26 pm
arnold palmer says:
deron iz my man but iz he better than manu….mike redd…..caron butler…..antwan jamison….not jus him is parker better than manu……iz iverson better right now than carmelo….NO JOE JOHNSON..wat makes amare better than shawn marion…..therez no right top 15with out a couple ties…..SOM guys r by themselves while others have better support nd situations ….
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
big40 says:
@ Austin were’s melo i know dude plays no d but not top 15 thats crazy
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:29 pm
Big Sia says:
And in terms of the Nets as a team…
Probably the number 1 reason VC doesnt get dap
(despite two consequetive playoff wins before this year)
The Nets were shit. Yes. What would they have been without vince? Much Much Much worse… how worse?
VC makes the 3RD HIGHEST IMPACT in terms of on court/off court production (how well the team does with him / how they struggle without him).
http://www.82games.com/ONSORT6.HTM
So although the nets were shit, this has NOTHING to do with vince’s play. Vince has never been given a proper supporting cast in his many years in the NBA.
the blind, media-created hate is fucking mind boggling
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
dapro says:
@ Austin
what was your list based on? Skill, rings, playoff performance, durability or did you just wing it?
I’m asking honestly, I see nothing wrong with the list just curious so I can make my own.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Marian says:
why tony parker in the top15?
why?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:38 pm
get_a_grip says:
your list is all flash and no substance.
What is your criteria? ability to make ESPN highlight reel? or ability to pound one’s chest the loudest? Ppppplease… these guys have proven nothing and shown only flashes of great play.
T-Mac?
Bad back and inability to take his team past the first round.
Amare?
A. McDyse in the making. great hops but little of everything else.
D. Williams?
Who?
Dirk?
As soft as Pau Gasol. Is the invisible man in the playoffs.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
PJ 310 says:
Did Melo fall off that much?
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:42 pm
Big V says:
@ Sia,
Thaddeus Young clocks in at #7 overall in this analysis. I don’t think anyone would sit here and argue for him to be included as well.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:45 pm
Big Sia says:
did thaddeus young drop numbers only Kobe and Lebron could match?
Don’t stray from the point. Those are real numbers if you look at them with proper context. In vince’s case they are VALID because of his extensive PT, obvious leadership and importance to the team.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:46 pm
Big Sia says:
Just accept the media has created a bias that you now desperately try to justify.
Sad but true.
Also, VC has played 76+ games three years in a row..
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:48 pm
Austin Burton says:
My list was primarily based on the question: “If I had to pick one guy to help me win one game, who would it be?” Normally in that situation I take Duncan #1, but after throwing in factors like overall skill, athletic ability, a little bit of the age/potential factor, ability to carry a team/win a game by himself, that was my formula.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:54 pm
Big V says:
No, but they’re relative to the team that these guys play for. You can’t use them as a basis for a true comparison because the circumstances are all completely different from player to player.
The Nets were garbage last year. It’s not hard to come up with a big on/off court point spread when nobody else is getting buckets.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:58 pm
T Dubbs says:
Duncan isn’t top 15 worthy anymore, sorry. They isolate TP on the wing when they need a bucket, or give it to Manu on the right wing, so he can slash in the lane with his left. (my opinion)
As for Pierce (the self proclaimed best player in the world), he was nothing without KG and Ray Allen. Ray Allen carried the Sonics, and KG carried the Wolves. Pierce was never impressive. (my opinion again)
I put Josh Smith as Top 15 because he’s one of the most complete players I’ve ever witnessed, and the dude is still young. I’m expecting him to have an outstanding career.
Don’t forget, this is all opinion. If we were going purely based off numbers, the list would obviously be alot different… I’m just looking at the whole picture from my perspective.
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
the rocket cat says:
I’m a big fan of sports economist Dave Berri’s work (dberri.wordpress.com). Here’s his top 15 after cruncing the numbers:
1. Chris Paul
2. Dwight Howard
3. Jason Kidd
4. Marcus Camby
5. LeBron James
6. Tim Duncan
7. Kevin Garnett
8. Steve Nash
9. Kobe Bryant
10. Tyson Chandler
11. Amare Stoudemire
12. Jose Calderone
13. Chauncey Billups
14. Manu Ginobli
15. Lamar Odom
September 22nd, 2008 at 4:59 pm
lukepo says:
i think iversons to high i think pierce amare and dirk should be higher then him
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:01 pm
Celts Fan says:
My top 10
1. Kobe
2A. LeBron
2B. Timmy
4. KG
5. CP3
6. DWade
7. Dwight
8. Deron
9. Pierce
10. B. Roy (I say again, versatility is HUGE to me. You can play him at the 1-3 and he can defend all 3 of them. That’s VITAL, especially w/ a team as diverse as Portland. He allows Nate to do TONS of stuff. that has to count for something.)
11. Amare
12. Nash
13. Manu (definitely over TP to me, when healthy of course)
14. Bosh
15. AI
Probably missed some, but htis is what I came up w/ off the top of my head.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:05 pm
karizmatic says:
forget all you Kobe lovers!
Lebron
Duncan
Kobe
AI
T-Mac
Dwight Howard
Chauncey Billups
Steve Nash
CP3
Deron Williams
Amare
Boozer
David West
D Wade
Dirk
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:10 pm
justice says:
this is getting wild..timmy is that dude, i hate him ut i must admit it’s noway that guy’s no top 15..melo can’t be in the cut if vince isn’t or marion..
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:12 pm
it aint easy being green says:
real quick….
1. kobe
2. lbj
3. timmy
4. paul peirce
5. kg
6. cp3
7. d wade
8. deron williams
9. d. howitzer
10. amare
11. ai
12. nash
13. boom-d
14. melo
15. big shot billups
ps. shame on anyone who put dirk on your list.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:21 pm
Ian says:
justice
that guy sayin timmeh is not top 15 is talking out his ass
he even has ray allen over duncan hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
because timmeh doesnt help his team win alot and hes not clutch hahahahahah
tdubbs common u r kidding right???
big sia
i usually defend carter
but so what he did 20 5 5 being a good player on a bad team numbers seem to be a bit overblown and third highest impact lol the nets suck with him so what impact is this.
talk to me about nash duncan kobe that type of impact. manu almost has the same numbers in a good team prob bein the third best player on his team. that is impact
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:24 pm
Ian says:
to put it simply manu does the same thing that carter does playin ten less minutes and taking less shots per game so yeah i have to say
manu>carter
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:27 pm
Ian says:
u see dubbs its with the comments u mess up your timmeh logic
u say allen carried the sonics and kg the wolves
really can i ask u carried then where???????? hasnt timmeh carried the spurs for ten years prob not in your book
and pierce being nothing
didnt pierce getthe celts to the conf finals one time just like garnett did the wolves????
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:28 pm
dapro says:
@AB
Makes sense
1)Kobe/Cp3 No other players are as directly responsible for WINS/LOSES like these two
2) Wade- I was going Lebron here but DWADE when healthy goes toe to toe vs anyone and delivers. His money when it counts (playoffs)
3) Bron- Most difficult player to guard unless he settles for jumpers
4) Duncan- starting to decline but still delivers when needed
5) TMAC-He’s probably one of the most unlucky players ever. Just when you think the team is ok, someone major gets hurt (him mostly) Check his playoff numbers and see how hard he works to get his team over the hump
6) KG- Consistently good, focused, and intense. What more could you want. On the perfect team for him
7)AI-never slows down and still as good today as he was his first few years in the League. People talk about freak athletes but he is by far the most freakishly athletic player in any sport 6′0 (generous) 165(generous) and gives everybody buckets
8)D-Will-I have him low in my opinion but the system hurts him. He could easily put up higher numbers and still pick up W’s
9) Yao-Best Center in the L. Howard can be minimized as evidence by the Olympics and Detroit. Yao is effective anywhere inside of 18 ft. Passing skills are nice for a big
10)Manu-I’d put him over Parker simply because he’s more complete. It was clear in the lose to the Spurs that they needed him and he couldn’t get it going due to the injury
11)PDouble- outside of Bron and Melo, most physically dominating sf in the league. He’s a true scorer
12) Melo- One the best scorers in the League. Offensively, top 5 easy
13)Bosh-Better than Amare and DWight right now, not as physically but more skilled than both
14)Agent 0-when healthy top 5 scorer as well. Can shot lights out
15)Dwight aka Superman-Once he gets a signature move and one solid post move he’ll be a force. As of right now, too many nights I’ve seen him neutrilized by solid defense
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:45 pm
The saint says:
mine definitely dont look like that…….
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:57 pm
Dagomar says:
The top:
1. Lebron (can do everything)
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. Paul
5. KG
6. Wade
A hair below:
7. Pierce
8. Howard
9. Dirk
10. Bosh (you guys just haven’t seen him play enough, he’s KG Lite . . . and not that lite).
11. Williams
12. Amare
12. Nash (I rate people lower who play no D).
13. Yao (should be higher but so many injuries).
14. Melo
15. Tmac, Arenas or Carter, whichever isn’t injured at that time of the year. Tmac is the most talented but it’s getting to the point where he can’t close out games anymore.
September 22nd, 2008 at 5:58 pm
Dagomar says:
The top:
1. Lebron (can do everything)
2. Kobe
3. Duncan
4. Paul
5. KG
6. Wade
A hair below:
7. Pierce
8. Howard
9. Dirk
10. Bosh (you guys just haven’t seen him play enough, he’s KG Lite . . . and not that lite).
11. Williams
12. Amare
12. Nash (I rate people lower who play no D). (tied with Amare)
13. Yao (should be higher but so many injuries).
14. Melo
15. Tmac, Arenas or Carter, whichever isn’t injured at that time of the year. Tmac is the most talented but it’s getting to the point where he can’t close out games anymore.
September 22nd, 2008 at 6:21 pm
Rdub4sho says:
Top 5 Talent = VC
Top 15 Players & VC cant even crack the list, that alone speaks volumes about a person with so much raw talent having ZERO drive…..
VC will forever be known as an ENIGMA!
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:01 pm
MoneeMane says:
Does age really matter if they are still playing in an elite level? I mean people are leaving out AI cuz of age, but still plays at a top level. To me AI would be in the top 7.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:14 pm
craig990 says:
Nice list dime!
Much better than the bullshit lists im seeing other people here put up!
Seriously.. a guy named “West” had A.I off of the top because of his age!Insane….. aren’t KG, Duncan, Steve Nash around the same age as A.I or older?
Yet there are on His List!… stupid fuck!
anyway.. nice read dime!
But i wonder.. where would Carmelo stand?
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:16 pm
it aint easy being green says:
@ rdub4sho- an enigma? vince carter will always be known as an injury fakin, madd talent but no heart havin, D-BAG
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:16 pm
Luigi says:
MY top 15
Kobe
LeBron
Duncan
Paul
KG
Wade
Deron
Parker
Nash
Gilbert
Amare
Dirk
Melo
Dwight
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:19 pm
dagwaller says:
Ha, good list Austin. I’m sure that, without reading all of the lists, all of them have 15 of my top 25. Ditto everyone else’s 15/25. The order is probably the same deal, too.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:28 pm
George W Kush Sr says:
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Duncan
4. Chris Paul
5. KG
6. D-Wade
7. T-Mac
8. Dwight Howard
9. Iverson
10. Gilbert Arenas
11. Amare Stoudemire
12. Paul Pierce
13. Deron Williams
14. Joe Johnson
15. Dirk
creepers: Carmelo Anthony, Chris Bosh, Ginobli, Marion, Yao.
Thats the top 20.
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:49 pm
Amar says:
my list is only 3 people long:
* jarron collins
* kwame brown
* jason collins
September 22nd, 2008 at 7:50 pm
gmoneykidd says:
Dwights way overated
hes a beast for sure physically, but he hasnt made any real strides in his game
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:15 pm
nick says:
think the list is good as is, however dirk could be moved down a little. both bosh and yao on the cusp of the list is argueable between 12-17.
September 22nd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
rodnets says:
Kobe
Lebron
KG
Timmy D
Paul Pierce
Chris Paul
D-Wade
Iverson
Kidd
Manu
Igoudala
Wallace (the Charlotte one)
Boom Dizzle
T-Mac
Brandon Roy
Deron Williams
Snubs
D. Howard and Amare (too raw to be a players by themselves, they need a great PG to play their game)
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:18 pm
Bone says:
There is so much that goes into the “Best Player” debate. It is most dominant, based on all-around skill, physical talent, winning, toughest competitor or a combo of all? Combining ALL of the above traits, here is my contribution to the debate:
1. Duncan
2. Kobe
3. Lebron
4. Chris Paul
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Amare
7. Paul Pierce
8. Garnett
9. Nash
10. Iverson
11. Bosh
13. Carmelo
14. Deron Williams
15. Elton Brand
Toughest Omissions:
- Dwight Howard - too easy to stop when he is on offense
- Yao, T-Mac, Baron Davis - Hurt too often
- Kidd - would have made the list two years ago
- Manu - wonder how good he would be on any team other than the Spurs, a “system” guy in my mind
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:23 pm
aska says:
1. Mamba
2. The King
3. The Fundamental
4. KG
5. CP3
6. The Answer
7. D Wade
9. Pierce
10.Manu
11. Amare
12. Dwight
13. Deron
14. Nash
15. Melo
September 22nd, 2008 at 10:30 pm
AZ says:
1. Kobe (1-2 more year left at this position)
2. LeBron (very close Second, will remain #2 for a long time if kobe gets his Chip)
3. Chris Paul (Was best player on the floor vs. Spurs in playoffs)
4. Duncan (Slow declining, Era might be over)
5. KG (Always just as good as Duncan if not better skill wise, duncan gets nod for being the Man in close situation, should be thanking Pierce)
6. D-Wade (Did you watch the olympics, clearly the best on the floor, but can he keep it up for 82 games?)
7. Dwight Howard (3 more years top 3)
8. Paul Pierce (Always great player, took a chip to realize it
9. Iverson (Heart alone keeps him top 15)
10. T-Mac (Skill/talent wise should be top 5)
11. Dirk (Talent wise great, Heart wise fell off big time)
12. Tony Parker (Dude takes on all challeges, what PG has a better Resume)
13. Deron Williams (dude flat out plays, its the system that hold him back)
14. Yao-Might possible be best center…can’t seem to be healthy enough to take spot.
15a/b.Steve Nash/Amare (coulda been higher, only matrix plays for another team and no D at all)Same with matrix
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:03 am
Phil T. Rich says:
(in order)
1. LeBron
2. Pierce
3. CP3
4. Kobe
5. D-Wade
6. KG
7. Nash
8. Duncan
9. D.Howard
10. Deron Williams
11. Iverson
12. Yao
13. Dirk
14. Bosh
15. Ray Allen
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:17 am
WEST says:
Omar “don’t be stupid my stupid clown”
Craig990 “stupid fuck”
Yo straight up I don’t play that shit. If you disagree with me say so,…no problem. But don’t insult me because of my opinion of ball players you 2 faggots. Pussys with big talk on the internet. This is MY list. MY opinion. Fuck you.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:29 am
frederick ruger says:
kobe
lebron
d-wade
chris paul
kg
paul pierce
yao ming
tyson chandler
ginobili
steve nash
boom dizzle
elton brand
marcus camby
ron artest
dwight
honorable mentions: amare, gilbert, brandon roy, bosh, tony parker, joe johnson, shawn marion, rudolph gay, iguodla, yao ming and SHEED WITH A BULLET
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:30 am
frederick ruger says:
+ stephen jackson and bruce bowen
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:45 am
jeremy says:
tony parker has never made an all-nba team
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:52 am
Austin Burton says:
Parker has more Finals MVP trophies than a lot of guys who have made All-NBA teams.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:58 am
wowzers says:
1. kobe
2. kg
3. lebron
4. superman
5. wade
6. duncan
7. t-mac
8. iverson
9. boom dizzle
10. cp3
11. deron williams
12. yao ming
13. paul pierce
14. nash
15. elton brand
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:39 am
ctkennedy says:
1.garnett
2.duncan
3.kobe
4.lebron
5.t-mac
6.williams
7.paul
8.baron davis
9.wade
10.dirk
11.iverson
12.howard
13.ming
14.amare
15.vc
September 23rd, 2008 at 4:13 am
Austin Burton says:
@AZ — Seeing as Finals MVP means you have a ring, yeah, I think almost everyone would trade All-NBA for Finals MVP.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:35 am
SlimGp says:
IN CORRECT ORDER:
1. Kobe
2. KG
3. LeBron
4. Duncan
5. Paul
6. Pierce
7. Howard
8. Amare
9. Nash
10.Williams
11.Iverson
12.Melo
13.Wade
14.Dirk
15.Bosh
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:53 am
soydog says:
TMAC is no way better than Vince. Nor is Vince better than TMac…
Both injury-prone. Both highly talented. Both not as good as they should be.
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:25 am
Bruce says:
whoeva said gerald wallace is a retard. that aint even funny
kg
kobe
lebron
cp3
dirk
melo
nash
d.howard
a.I.
amare
t mac
arenas (when he aint injured)
paul pierce
duncan
manu
September 23rd, 2008 at 9:32 am
milky says:
WOW!! I love to watch his playing.!This guy has posted his personal ad to the tall dating site called ___tallloving.com ___for several months. I just visited his profile page yesterday. It seems he has logged in recently. OMG, is he looking for a hot modle?
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:11 am
$filmoney$ says:
1. Kobe - Best player in the L on the strength of talent, skill, intelligence and he’s the most clutch player in the game, just ask Spain. (I hate the lakers)
2. Duncan - The most skilled big man in the game on offense and defense. Basically the Kobe of Big Men, also makes a lot of clutch buckets for a big man. (hate spurs)
3. LeBron - The most talented player in the world and the most physically imposing and dominant. Very good passer but his shot is shaky, bad FT shooter, and he’s up and down in clutch situations.
4. Deron Williams - Most underrated superstar in the L. He does everything great: ball handling, 3PT, on ball D, FT, running a team, is clutch with game on the line, close between him and CP3 but gets edge because he owns CP3 head to head. (I hate the jazz)
5. Chris Paul - Decent defender, best ball handler in the L, best runner of a team , improved his shot drastically,
6. D-Wade - Makes plays on D, dominant scorer and gets to the line, makes plays for others, clutch player, Turns ball over too much though
7. Paul Pierce - Proved he can defend, great shooter and scorer, can pass and rebound well for SF, not far from top
8. T-Mac - Great scorer, talented defender but not always committed, great passer, underrated clutch player
9. Amare - The most dominant big man in the L, the most talented big man in the L, he is the best player on offense in the L, blocks shots, gets lost on d too often,
10. KG
11. Dirk - great scorer and shooter, up and down in the clutch, decent rebounder, halfway decent on d,
12. Iverson - (My favorite player) great scorer and make plays for others but he can’t play d except passing lanes, turns the ball over and over dribbles
13. Tony Parker- quick, unstoppable in the lane, and can take over games, has also been dominant in the playoffs
14. Steve Nash - Terrible on D but is a great shooter, clutch, and everybody knows how well he passes
15. Dwight Howard - Most powerful big man in the game. Offense game is limited and is inconsistent on D.
I say i hate those teams and players to let you know i have no bias. I hate them but I don’t hate on them.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:18 am
Ian says:
AZ
hahahahahha really everyone would trade their allnba selection which means shit compared to a finals mvp. dont be a retard
bruce
u cant make fun of someone for sayin gerald wallace
when u put kg at 1 and melo over duncan which is retarded. dont u think that if melo were better than td the nuggets would be contenders.
September 23rd, 2008 at 11:41 am
Susej says:
1. Kobe
1. Lebron
3. Timmy
4. CP3
5. D-Wade
6. KG
7. PP
8. T-Mac
9. Dirk
10. B-Diddy
11. D-Will
12. A.I.
13. Nash
14. Manu
15. Parker
September 23rd, 2008 at 12:48 pm
johnsacrimoni says:
Holy balls did I get here late
1.Kobe
2.LeBron
3.Tim D
4.D-Wade
5.CP3
6.Yao
7.KG
8.Amare
9.Deron
10.Dirk
11.D-Howard
12.Pierce
13.Nash
14.T-Mac
15.AI
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:14 pm
Meica says:
I’m sorry, but Duncan and KG should not be on this list. Obviously KG is a beast and has been great for a long time, but as we saw last year, he needs a Paul Pierce to win. As for Duncan, yeah he’s been post-season gold years ago, but if you’ve watched the Spurs last year (and even the year before when they won it all) it’s not because of what Duncan can do, but almost in spite of the fact that they have him.
Did you guys watch the Hornets/Spurs series? Duncan is closing in on suck, big time.
And just to stick it in there, I don’t think he has any heart. David Robinson, Ginoboli definitely, Duncan: N-O.
September 23rd, 2008 at 1:39 pm
Austin Burton says:
@Meica — Did you watch the Spurs/Suns series? If “closing in on suck” means you drop 40 points in one of the most memorable playoff games in recent memory, I’ll take that. Just for laughs, who in the League would you say is better than Duncan?
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:24 pm
jeremy says:
the three all-nba teams ARE the 15 best players in the league for that year
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:31 pm
Ian says:
az
dumbass????? what is this are u beavis
wtf is dumbass
u sir r a retard
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:40 pm
Austin Burton says:
@jeremy — Not quite, since there are position restrictions.
September 23rd, 2008 at 2:45 pm
jeremy says:
good point
September 23rd, 2008 at 3:05 pm
jeremy says:
but they are certainly a basis for this type of discussion and for someone to have never made any of the teams is a big negative in my book, but maybe not others’.
September 23rd, 2008 at 6:22 pm
Young Lebron 23 says:
1.LeBron
2.Kobe
Fuck everyone else
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:03 pm
Flanders says:
Lebron
Chris Paul
Kobe
Garnett
Wade
Duncan
Deron
Howard
Manu
Amare
Pierce
Dirk
Nash
Iverson
K-Mart II
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Austin Burton says:
@jeremy — Fair enough. As I’ve always said, the difference in talent between Parker/Deron/Baron/Billups, etc., isn’t a big one, so in those cases things like team success swing it for me.
September 23rd, 2008 at 7:04 pm
SoulOnIce says:
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. KG
4. Duncan (you can flip-flop them either way; I don’t care)
5. Wade (lookin’ like the Wade of old again).
6. Deron Williams (don’t let the fact that Sloan keeps him on a leash fool you; he’s a MONSTER).
7. Chris Paul (same applies to my KG-Duncan theory)
8. Dwight Howard
9. Iverson
10. Nash
11. Yao
12. Paul Pierce
13. Amare
14. Yao
15. The Baron
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:13 pm
BEazy says:
Deron Williams.. Where is the respect for DWill man? He has owned Chris Paul numbers of times dating back to their rookie year! Without a question he is better than Chris Paul, and it is what the media feeds a lot of you to believe he is better than D-Will.
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Duncan
4. KG
5. D-Wade
6. Pierce
7. Deron Williams
8. Chris Paul
9. Dwight Howard
10. Nash
11. Amare
12. Tony Parker
13. T-Mac
14. Dirk
15. Chris Bosh
September 23rd, 2008 at 8:55 pm
Kenny says:
Thank you, BEazy, for not watching these games with blinders on.
September 23rd, 2008 at 10:36 pm
kowtz says:
1. Stephen Jackson
2. Carmello Anthony
3. Rasheed Wallace
4. Ron Artest
5. Zach Randolph
6. Jermaine O’neal
7. Jamaal Tinsley
8. Ben Walla* …
Oh Snap… thought we we’re making top 15 fighters…
In anycase, if this were a real team, no one would win the chip…
Everyone would be in the IR… and all of them would have been suspended by the all star break…
September 24th, 2008 at 8:51 am
Prodigy195 says:
-Kobe-(Obvious)
-Lebron-(Obvious)
-CP3-(Obvious)
-Duncan-(If he isn’t on your list then you fail)
-D.Williams-(Obvious)
-Wade-(Obvious)
-Pierce(Showed in the Finals he’s still elite)
-KG(Obvious)
-Amare(Obvious)
-T-Mac(When not injure he’s a top 5)
-Howard(Obvious)
-Bosh(Played with heart in Olympics, hope he brings the game desire this season
-Yao(Still needs to toughen up a big but still is top 15
-Manu(Hate him or love him, the guy can hoop)
-Dirk(Soft, but he gets buckets and still cracks the top 15)
September 24th, 2008 at 8:54 am
Patrick says:
alright, with 140 responses up here we probably don’t need just another straight up top 15 list, but screw it. I am at work and it is early in the morning. I am going to rank on talent and physical dominance.
1. Kobe - most talented
2. Lebron - Must be some kind of cyborg. I just want him to win a couple chip’s early so maybe he can try his luck in the NFL
3. Dancan - Gets to be the GOAT power forward even though he is bigger The Dream, Wilt, Ewing, Robinson, Russell
4. DWade - Assuming he is back to really playing again
5. CP3
6. Deron
7. Macgrady
8. Dwight “HGH” Howard
9. Amare
10. KG
11. Dirk
12. Melo
13. Pierce
14. Yao
15. Nash
September 24th, 2008 at 10:00 am
DT says:
KG
Duncan
Lebron
Tmac
Kobe
Dwight Howard
Nash
Dwade
Chris Paul
Amare
Dirk
Pierce
Yao
Bosh
Deron Williams
Honorable Mention: Carmelo(no defense, inconsistent), A.I.(one dimensional), Bdavis(injury prone), Ginobili(flopper lol), Tony Parker(too wild), Josh Smith(too young), VC(everyone should know this reason)…….
September 24th, 2008 at 10:55 am
Ace-One says:
Man, what a difference a finals makes. Paul Pierce is not a top ten player. He’s just not. And while he’s in the mix, he’s not a top 15 player in my book either.
He scores inside and outside, gets to the line, but things fall off from there. He was underrated as a defensive player before the playoff run, but he’s way overrated now post-finals (where, even in a good display for pierce, his deficiencies were pretty obvious). He’s a decent but not premier passer. And his assist-to-turnovers is, again, good but not great.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:13 am
SoulOnIce says:
As for my list, I gotta substitute The Baron, and put Chauncey instead at #15.
September 24th, 2008 at 11:23 am
Mike says:
How can CP be so high and D-Will so low when D-Will has owned CP.
Go look at the head to head record!
September 24th, 2008 at 11:32 am
415 says:
1-Kobe
2-Garnett
3-D-Wade
4-CP3
5-Monta Ellis
6-Yao Ming
7-Paul Pierce
8-Iverson
9-Joe Johnson
10-Vince
11-Amare
12-Marion
13-D-Howard
14-Billups
15-Bosh
September 24th, 2008 at 5:03 pm
Matt says:
1. Kobe
2. LeBron
3. Chris Paul
4. Duncan
5. Dwyane Wade
6. Kevin Garnett
7. Paul Pierce
8. Tracy McGrady
9. Carmelo Anthony
10. Dwight Howard
11. Deron Williams
12. Chris Bosh
13. Steve Nash
14. Amare Stoudemire
15. Manu Ginobli
September 24th, 2008 at 9:23 pm
obmb says:
top 10 underachievers:
1-4. Name your favorite Knick in no particular order: E City, Starbury, Z-Bo and Jared Jeffries;
5. tim thomas
6. d miles
7. m williams
8. dalembeast
9. d mason
10. any center on the bucks
September 25th, 2008 at 1:28 am
Lanfeas says:
1. Kobe
2. Duncan
3. Lebron
4. CP3
5. KG
6. D-Wade
7. Dirk
8. Deron Williams
9. T-Mac
10. Paul Pierce
11. Steve Nash
12. Iverson
13. Yao
14. Manu
15. Dwight Howard/Chris Bosh
September 26th, 2008 at 11:38 pm
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! says:
Frontin on AI!!! He is not old! He is still top 5 and definitely top 10. Why everyone wanna hate just because he is with Melo now. It is not his fault Melo was driving dirty or his coach is a bump on a log. Or that the gave away Camby for nada.
September 27th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
Roger says:
you only put the truth because he has a ring now. 2 years ago no one had him on their list.
September 29th, 2008 at 8:51 pm
thewitchessabbath says:
in order
J-RICH Best dunker v-c & kobe arnt even in his league
T-Mac Best passer in his position SF-SG
Kobe best defender in league Baron is second but will pass him
Baron Davis best passer in league and 2nd best defender
Arenas can drop 60 on anyone including Kobe
Lebron best defender at his position led usa to gold
carmelo top 3 scorers at the 3 behind james & T-Mac
Carter 2nd best dunker behind the back to back champion
Joe Johnson at 6′8 hes unstopable at the 2 guard
Bosh Best big in the league hes a beast bulldog
Tony Parker Chips put him top 3 pg behind baron gilbert
Wade top 3 in fourth quarter behind kobe & lebron
Marion will make ur girl cum in 2 sec
Dirk best free throw shooter in league
October 28th, 2008 at 4:42 am
Okami says:
This list is garbage after number 5, I dunno how you rank things but after 5, this list is really bad. Tmac shouldnt be in the top ten, Yao ming should be there, Tony Parker shouldnt even be close to top 15, Iverson is an overrated chucker.
1)Kobe
2)Lebron
3)Cp3
4)Duncan
5)KG
6)Wade
7)Amare
8)Dwight
9)Yao
10)Deron
11)Nash
12)Dirk
13)Pierce
14)Mcgrady
15)Melo
November 12th, 2008 at 4:08 pm
KYLE says:
OK THE BEST PLAYERS FOR ONE ARE NOT ALWAYS ON THE BEST TEAMS OR EVEN THE MOST POPULAR…IN FACT MORE THEN HALF ARE ON THE THE TEAMS THAT EITHER DON’T MAKE THE PLAYOFFS OR JUST GET IN AND GET SWEPT IN THE FIRST ROUND….BY BEST PLAYERS I GO BY WHO’S DONE THE MOST DAMAGE IN THE TIME THEY HAVE BEEN PLAYING…NOT TO MENTION HOW THEY EXCEL UNDER PRESSURE, ADAPT ON DEFENSE AS WELL AS OFFENSE…AND WHO UNDERSTANDS AND PLAYS THE GAME WITH INTENSITY ON BOTH SIDES OF THE COURT EQUALLY.
MY LIST:
1.BRYANT
2.JAMES
3.CHRIS PAUL
4.GARNETT
5.D-WADE
6.T-MAC
7.PIERCE
8.DUNCAN
9.IVERSON
10.JOE JOHNSON
11.AMARE STOUDEMIRE
12.DWIGHT HOWARD
13.BILLUPS
14.BOOZER
15.BARON DAVIS
I WANT TO NAME SOME RUNNER UPS THAT I THINK IN A FEW YEARS CAN MAKE THIS LIST EASILY:
MICHAEL REDD, DANNY GRANGER, TAYSHAUN PRINCE, LAMAR ODEM, BRANDON ROY, MANU GINOBILI, JASON RICHARDSON, JOSE CALDERON, CHRIS BOSH, JAMAL CRAWFORD, RICHARD JEFFERSON, TONY PARKER, CARMELO ANTHONY, AND DAVID WEST….
FOR EVERYONE ELSE EITHER THEY ARE TOO OLD OR YOUNG, OR THEIR GAMES JUST DON’T REFLECT A PLAYER THAT CAN BE GREAT IN ALL ASPECTS OF THE GAME….THAT’S MY FINAL WORD….
November 21st, 2008 at 11:51 am
assripper cheeks says:
really? manu doesnt make ur list. healthy hes 2nd best sg in the league
December 9th, 2008 at 7:10 pm
Dman says:
Dman says:
sorry kobe fans!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
1.LeBron James(King James,I should say)
2.Kobe Bryant(Black Mamba!)
3.CP3(Lightning!)
4.D-Wade(FLASH!)
5.D-Howard(Superman!)
6.Tim Duncan(Big Fundamental!)
7.KG(Big Ticket!)
8.Chris Bosh(CB4!)
9.Steve Nash(Kid Cana!)
10.Carmelo(Melo!)
11.Iverson(The Answer!)
12.Tony Parker(T.P.!)(toilet Paper!)
13.Manu Ginobil(Manu!)
14.Dirk(Dirty!)
15.Jason Kidd(J-Kidd!)
16.Shaquille O’Neal(Shaq!)
17.Deron Williams(D-Will!)
18.Amar’e Stoudamire(Amar’E)
19.Paul Pierce(The Truth!)
20.Derrick Rose(Pooh!)
OLI-T-Mac,Ray Allen, Paul Pierce,Yao Ming,VC(u know why)
December 9th, 2008 at 7:14 pm
Dman says:
Those are the people that will make their ark on this NBA 08-09 Season.
Final Word.
December 9th, 2008 at 7:15 pm
Dman says:
my bad i meant to say “MARK” on ARK
December 23rd, 2008 at 9:56 pm
mikerob says:
lets just go by position
1.Chris Paul,Tony Parker,Deron Williams
2.Kobe Bryant,Dwayne Wade,Brandon Roy(Not Now But Soon)
3.Lebron James,Carmelo Anthony,Paul Pierce
4. Kevin Garnett OR Tim Duncan, Amare Stoudamire (BEAST)
5.Dwight Howard,Andris Biendris,Andrew Bynum
But Kobe,Lebron,CP3,Dwade,Kg,Duncan,Dwight IS THE BEST RIGHT NOW ALL OF THEM ARE IN THERE PRIMES
January 8th, 2009 at 10:49 am
Mitch says:
Danny Granger is top 10 easy.
July 8th, 2009 at 2:09 am
john says:
vince carter is the fucken best
October 26th, 2009 at 9:59 pm
henry says:
1-lebron
2-d-wade
3-kobe
4-kevin durant
5-cp3
October 31st, 2009 at 3:49 pm
Marquise says:
these are definitaly the best 15 players
1.Kobe
2.lebron
3.D-wade
4.steve nash
5.Deron williams
6.Cp3(would be higher but still 2 young over rated)
7.Dirk
8.Amare
9.Tony parker
10.Timmy duncan
11.KG
12.Pual Pierce
13.Allen Iverson
14.Carmelo Anthony
15.Chris Bosh
The true top 15 players no doubt