Youngfeld-
I don’t think Sheed’s gonna make it, but I suppose he has a slight outside chance. There’s no way in hell Boom Dizzle will make it and he shouldn’t even be discussed before Nash, Paul, Williams, Parker, Kidd, or Billups. I’d even rather have ’08 Kidd than ’08 Davis.

why does everyone think melo is so one demensional…dude got 7-8 reb and like 4 assist a game last year, numbers pretty close to caron butler whos a “stat stuffer”

and yes i realize his defense is not very good, but he is more than just a shooter

This is my two cents,

1. Rasheed Wallace a Hall of Famer?
(career stats)15.2pts 1.9ast 6.9reb 1.0stl 1.4blk
Sheed is miles away from HOF based on numbers alone. At this moment, Sheed’s number is similar to Sam Perkins and last time i check Perkins aint in the Hall of fame.
As YOUNGFED said “but seriously Sheed is an Icon who tones his game down for the team,” this is true, but sadly the HOF doesnt judge on the Individuals’ ability to restrain themselves from blurting curse words, i bet they expect HOFers to exemplify a true sportmanship, which is something that doesnt really describe Sheed. Now you can flip this arguement whichever way you want, but to call Rasheed a Hall of Famer and Icon is a bit ridiculous in my opinion. Were talking about an exclusive group of players such as Magic, Jabar, Bird and Olajuwon and to include Rasheed in that group is abit ludicrous. On top of that, I think Dennis Rodman deserve the spot more than Sheed.

Sheed is not a hall of famer!

2.AI Superstar?

You bet your ass. sure the guy is barely 6’0, he doesnt play much defense and hes been only on one final. This arguement goes against him, but what about the points he scored and the way he scored them. The pundits tend to forget how he put his body on the line everytime he drives into the paint, how he constantly plays with injuries and how Inadequate his team was back in the days(Mutombo,Tyrone Hill,Mckie, Snow,AI). Infact, i would rather have AI take 50 more fg attempts with that line up.
You can even argue that AI’s 2001 sixers ressembles King James’ 2006 Cavs. Im not sure if AI revolutionize the game like Wilt or Jabbar and i dont know if hes a super megastar or w/e. But AI was a one man wrecking crew back in the days and God created him to put a ball in the basket, which is the reason why Pistons acquire him.

AI is a Superstar!!!!

3. Melo overrated?

Camelo Anthony was choosen 3rd in the 2003 NBA Draft. As you guys know, someone by the name of Lebron was choosen first and i aint even going to mention the 2nd pick. the comparison between anthony and james will always surface whether they like it or not. So lebron won the ROY and Anthony made the playoff before Bron. However, Lebron took his team and his game to another level the past couple of years while Anthony and the Nuggets struggled. Lebron is a better overall player and maybe a better defender by a slight margin. So Carmelo is overshadowed by Lebron’s success, which cast him to the abyss, while the media questions his game and slap the “overrated” tag. i think Carmelo is a good player, lets take nuggets 06 and place them in the Leastern Conference and i bet they can be as good as the Cavs. Carmelo probably lack the drive and determination to succeed, but hes a versatile player who can post you up and drop J’s behind the arc. I can say that his offensive moves are more polished than King James’. With that in mind, i dont think hes as bad as what the media made him up to be.

Melo is not overrated

Ian, this is my last response to you because frankly, it’s not worth it:
By your logic, Malone and Stockton were not megastars. Neither was Barkley. I guess these were just pretty good players, but not true superstars because they don’t have titles. Gotcha.
Allen Iverson and his ringless fingers don’t deserve to even sniff at the Hall!
3rd highest scorer in the history of the game? Multiple scoring titles? Psh! He just shot a lot!
2001 Title run with the worst finals team ever? Psh! Easy competition!
MVP? Psh! Biased voters who don’t know the game!
9 time allstar? Psh! Flukes and biased fan voting!

Man, thanks for setting me straight. I now see Allen Iverson for who he really is: A mediocre “star” who is utterly unworthy of that golden prefix.

tealish
they are superstars but u apparently didnt read all the post but do they belong in the same group as
duncan kobe jordan magic wilt. gotcha

why dont we talk about ewing as we do admiral hakeem shaq. gotcha

why dont we talk richmond as we do drexler jordan. gotcha

dont bring up allstar games cuz that makes vince carter michael jordan.

and again you last line is stupid go read all post didnt i say thay u can put hi in the superstar group and i dont have a problem because there are reasons for him to be there but he isnt in the elite group i mentioned thas above all superstars.

k malone has 2 mvps 2 finals apperances in a tough western conference has better stats and isnt in the super elite group because he doesnt have a ring so is ewing so please dont act all stupid and childish with commentes like that. gotcha

alltime groups examples
group a
jordan magic duncan kobe
do u think malone deserves to be in there NO he falls in the next group
gervin barkley malone and maybeeeeeee iverson

this is my last response to u cuz frankly its not worth it… good line there makes u sound so smart

Tealish – don’t get into a argument over opinions with ian cuz he’ll spend 80 bars spittin on how his is the only correct one. Anyways, you don’t think AI a superstar, that’s personal, not reality. Nobody under 6 feet has madee the impact on and off the court since maybe Tiny Archibald and I say maybe cuz I don’t think Tiny got the love off the court.
JJ is a superstar on the court, just a star off cuz he ain’t gettin pumped up by nike, jordan, gatorade, boost mobile etc. Ain’t nuthin on the court he can’t do as a 2. Only behind Kobe and Ray as a stone shooter. On par with Kobe and Wade as a ballhandler, defends as well as Kobe with the quickness and like Artest, can put the body on you with the power. Passes, scores, defends, dribbles and can shoot – the five tools of all real ballers if you a perimeter player. Just not gettin the love off the court yet but it’s comin. Heads always wonder why Suns fans kept sayin “if” they coulda kept him, “if” he hadn’t broken his face against the Spurs. ..Now you know, dude is one of the 5 most complete players in the world.

Fed – Sheed?…..not a superstar. Huge street cred, but not a superstar…IMO

k dizzle
what are you talking about correct one?? havent i said in all my posts i dont care if anyone calls him a superstar but for ME hes a notch below. some of you guys here are the ones that always break out the “u outta your mind when someone posts diff opinions here”. EVERYONE does it defending a player they like do i have to think kobe is the best because u think he is?

the parker thing is one now the iverson thing please just do what someone did and say i dont agree i think hes a superstar and period. no bashing no talking shit online like a bunch of ethugs.

Joe Johnson is easily a superstar player because he’s a very good and versatile defender, he has PG level ball handling and passing skills. He’s a great shooter and 3pt shooter and he’s a clutch player. I got some serious issues with some omissions on that list. Carmelo and STAT are the two most unguardable offensive players in the L. I’m not saying they’re the best players in L because they’re lacking on the other end of the court but they’re up there. Tracy Mcgrady, CB4, and Tony P are the egregious omissions. And to not have Deron Williams on the list is the worst of them all, if the criteria is media hype than call it that but it means nothing to the non-casual NBA fan but his game is second to none. Media hype, high profile blogs, endorsements and commercials or funny interviews have no place in my criteria on judging a players status as an NBA superstar.

umm to be a superstar people who don’t know shit about basketball have to know who you are but they don’t

i swear you guys steal my ideas
i was just thinking & trying to explain to a friend
how sick joe johnson is and will be this year.

Not even a question. He’s an All-Star and he’s included in Team USA’s pool of 33 players for Int’l play. But most of all, he’s not even allowing fans or media to make it a question this year. He’s killing it and his team’s record is reflecting this fact.

JJ is extremely clutch.

Joe Johnson>>>Paul Pierce

wow is that a question of course hoe is a superstar. For the people who judge by stats hes better than Kobe. Does that not say enough and besides he is unbelievable at ball. He does things that no one else can do. The little things that most superstars besides Kobe cant do. As of last year he averaged 44 minutes a game out of the 48 in regulation. That jumps off the page last year without flip and mo Evans Joe did not have many shooters so he would find himself in many doubles night in and night out. He broke all of these. Late in games teams would focus on Joe and double him and make it near impossible for him to do his thing but what makes him so special is his pace he plays at the tempo that only he controls. Its relaxed and layed back and you cant throw him out of it. In the playoffs he outscored the Celtics team in the 4th quarter and if he would not have gotten that bullshit charge call in game 7 things would have been different He plays great solid tight D late and early and is near impossible to drive on. When teams focus so much on him and the fans focus on him it has to be hard. He never has excuses and is a leader in his own sense. On the court u never see joe talk ever no flipping out on the court complete composure every single night. He may get frustrated and press a little but it is hard to throw him in a funk. He has no excuses and this year things look even better for him and Atl after our 6-0 start you saw a calm hawks team and shooters on the court and on the bench with him. He does not have to do it all their is a supporting cast and the future is bright for him and the hawks. Now after we lost 3 straight in a heart breaker in Boston and two to the nets we are not worried. Joe came out and made no excuses he was quoted saying how we are professionals and this is what we get payed to do. Incredible would be the best word to sum him up. He actually is a nice guy may be a little quiet but I wouldn’t trade him for anybody, u may say thats thats stupid but its not u come watch him every night you will understand. Was the trade for joe worth it of course he has done nothing but grow and become a superstar for the hawks.HE IS A GREAT ROLL MODEL and should be more recognized ya he ha sent got a ring yet but i would love to see nothing more than a ring on that mans finger. If you disagree you are simply a dumb ass.