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		<title>By: tim</title>
		<link>http://dimemag.com/2008/11/the-rip-hamilton-problem/comment-page-1/#comment-91969</link>
		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 20:52:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah you guys need to also remember they&#039;ve gotten in like 1 or 2 practices since the trade...so its not like they are getting much time off the court to work on things and that...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah you guys need to also remember they&#8217;ve gotten in like 1 or 2 practices since the trade&#8230;so its not like they are getting much time off the court to work on things and that&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Obama says to McCain "Hows my @ss taste"?</title>
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		<dc:creator>Obama says to McCain "Hows my @ss taste"?</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>JoeKozi

A.) For the 100th time..Coach Karls comments were taken out of context about Iverson. There has been an entire article about it. Karl has been on record in saying that out of all his players, he had the least problems with Iverson and has nothing but respect for him. Never did he say you can&#039;t win with Iverson. You folks just be putting words in peoples mouths. And people kill me with the continuous &quot;you can&#039;t win with Iverson&quot; garbage...when its been done before as far as his teams competing in the playoffs. I could see if he had never been out the first round and people say something like that. 

B.) Denver has played one team with a winning record with Chauncey in the line-up, they have been winning, but they&#039;ve also been winning ugly..so I wouldn&#039;t exactly say &quot;Denver is ballin&quot;. They are a more balanced team with Chauncey..he&#039;s a PG, Iverson is not...he barely even in Denver, so I still don&#039;t understand the comparisons Just like people thought it was okay to compare AI to Andre Miller with the Sixers...the Sixers are barely even decent right now, yet people feel the need to claim they are sooo much better without Iverson. Give me a break. The Nuggets needed a true PG because that team is filled with a bunch of chuckers. They never had one with Iverson, its really that simple. Iverson is better when he is off the wall and running around free like how he is in Detroit. Not trying to control the offense. 

Now as far as Rip is concerned...I think out of everyone he was effected the most. Both mentally and physically. I think Rasheed was in shock at first but is now on the &quot;I don&#039;t really give a sh*t waggon&quot;...T-Prince was shocked as well but now is getting used to it. Those two have benefited the most from Iversons trade. Rip on the other hand in my opinion is doing the most. I agree with whoever said he needs to be a professional and get over it. I understand him and Chauncey are friends and he was so used to playing with Chauncy..but he is just starting to act a little too sensitive to me. As a fan, i&#039;ll give him a month to get it all out...but if this continues on then i&#039;m going to start calling him &quot;Steve Francis&quot;, because he is starting to look just as sesitive when it comes to friends being traded.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>JoeKozi</p>
<p>A.) For the 100th time..Coach Karls comments were taken out of context about Iverson. There has been an entire article about it. Karl has been on record in saying that out of all his players, he had the least problems with Iverson and has nothing but respect for him. Never did he say you can&#8217;t win with Iverson. You folks just be putting words in peoples mouths. And people kill me with the continuous &#8220;you can&#8217;t win with Iverson&#8221; garbage&#8230;when its been done before as far as his teams competing in the playoffs. I could see if he had never been out the first round and people say something like that. </p>
<p>B.) Denver has played one team with a winning record with Chauncey in the line-up, they have been winning, but they&#8217;ve also been winning ugly..so I wouldn&#8217;t exactly say &#8220;Denver is ballin&#8221;. They are a more balanced team with Chauncey..he&#8217;s a PG, Iverson is not&#8230;he barely even in Denver, so I still don&#8217;t understand the comparisons Just like people thought it was okay to compare AI to Andre Miller with the Sixers&#8230;the Sixers are barely even decent right now, yet people feel the need to claim they are sooo much better without Iverson. Give me a break. The Nuggets needed a true PG because that team is filled with a bunch of chuckers. They never had one with Iverson, its really that simple. Iverson is better when he is off the wall and running around free like how he is in Detroit. Not trying to control the offense. </p>
<p>Now as far as Rip is concerned&#8230;I think out of everyone he was effected the most. Both mentally and physically. I think Rasheed was in shock at first but is now on the &#8220;I don&#8217;t really give a sh*t waggon&#8221;&#8230;T-Prince was shocked as well but now is getting used to it. Those two have benefited the most from Iversons trade. Rip on the other hand in my opinion is doing the most. I agree with whoever said he needs to be a professional and get over it. I understand him and Chauncey are friends and he was so used to playing with Chauncy..but he is just starting to act a little too sensitive to me. As a fan, i&#8217;ll give him a month to get it all out&#8230;but if this continues on then i&#8217;m going to start calling him &#8220;Steve Francis&#8221;, because he is starting to look just as sesitive when it comes to friends being traded.</p>
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		<title>By: jeremy</title>
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		<dc:creator>jeremy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:31:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>told you so</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>told you so</p>
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		<title>By: Lady Luck</title>
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		<dc:creator>Lady Luck</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:20:09 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>They should&#039;ve brought Lindsay Hunter back to play pg off the bench. 

In the meantime, they need to start AI at the point and Rip at the 2, Tayshawn at the 3. Sheed and Maxiell. 

OR

Start Stuckey, AI, Rip, Prince, and Sheed at center. 

Detroit knew what kind of player Iverson was before he got here. They must have looked at the lineup possibilities before pulling the trigger. I believe with time they will get it together.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>They should&#8217;ve brought Lindsay Hunter back to play pg off the bench. </p>
<p>In the meantime, they need to start AI at the point and Rip at the 2, Tayshawn at the 3. Sheed and Maxiell. </p>
<p>OR</p>
<p>Start Stuckey, AI, Rip, Prince, and Sheed at center. </p>
<p>Detroit knew what kind of player Iverson was before he got here. They must have looked at the lineup possibilities before pulling the trigger. I believe with time they will get it together.</p>
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		<title>By: QQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>QQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 18:07:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the Piston&#039;s woes aren&#039;t really on Rip&#039;s shoulders. They&#039;re on AI&#039;s. The whole Piston offense relied on a point guard who can make plays for his teammates. Billups is THAT point guard. He did that for 6 years. Passing the ball, knowing when to take the shot, all the right plays. On the other hand, AI is NOT that point guard; hell, he ain&#039;t a point guard in the first place. That&#039;s why the whole system was fractured and the Pistons is so inconsistent right now. 
And before they find that point guard (Stuckey&#039;s shit right now, and Prince&#039;s a nice candidate but still unproven as a playmaker), they will stay where they are: in the middle of the pack, with no identity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the Piston&#8217;s woes aren&#8217;t really on Rip&#8217;s shoulders. They&#8217;re on AI&#8217;s. The whole Piston offense relied on a point guard who can make plays for his teammates. Billups is THAT point guard. He did that for 6 years. Passing the ball, knowing when to take the shot, all the right plays. On the other hand, AI is NOT that point guard; hell, he ain&#8217;t a point guard in the first place. That&#8217;s why the whole system was fractured and the Pistons is so inconsistent right now.<br />
And before they find that point guard (Stuckey&#8217;s shit right now, and Prince&#8217;s a nice candidate but still unproven as a playmaker), they will stay where they are: in the middle of the pack, with no identity.</p>
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		<title>By: Ip</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ip</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:46:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>alex (post 16) -- exactly right. iverson and marbury, etc., either score alone or play a two-man game at max. they don&#039;t play a team game. dead on, man.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>alex (post 16) &#8212; exactly right. iverson and marbury, etc., either score alone or play a two-man game at max. they don&#8217;t play a team game. dead on, man.</p>
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		<title>By: youdontknow</title>
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		<dc:creator>youdontknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:45:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Agreed.  He doesn&#039;t have any breathtaking physical skills (unless you count his endurance...sub 4:30 miles), and will always need someone else to help him play effectively.

My only point is that its easy to say now that Rip can&#039;t play outside of the Detroit system of the past 5 or so years, but hes adjusted before.  Come playoff time Rip will be on top of his game</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Agreed.  He doesn&#8217;t have any breathtaking physical skills (unless you count his endurance&#8230;sub 4:30 miles), and will always need someone else to help him play effectively.</p>
<p>My only point is that its easy to say now that Rip can&#8217;t play outside of the Detroit system of the past 5 or so years, but hes adjusted before.  Come playoff time Rip will be on top of his game</p>
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		<title>By: QQ</title>
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		<dc:creator>QQ</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:33:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@ post 17:

Nice point.

What I&#039;m trying to say is his talent doesn&#039;t dazzle you like, say, Carter&#039;s jumping ability, Bron&#039;s strength and Kidd&#039;s court vision. Those are natural talent; IMO, Rip doesn&#039;t have those kind of talent level. He certainly can ball, but if we&#039;re talking bout extraordinary talent that dazzles you the first time you see it, he&#039;s lacking in that department. 

He&#039;s blessed to be part of a system where his strengths are magnified, but if people are expecting him to carry his team based on his talent alone (on the way I objectively defined it) like Dwyane Wade or some other cat, people will be disappointed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@ post 17:</p>
<p>Nice point.</p>
<p>What I&#8217;m trying to say is his talent doesn&#8217;t dazzle you like, say, Carter&#8217;s jumping ability, Bron&#8217;s strength and Kidd&#8217;s court vision. Those are natural talent; IMO, Rip doesn&#8217;t have those kind of talent level. He certainly can ball, but if we&#8217;re talking bout extraordinary talent that dazzles you the first time you see it, he&#8217;s lacking in that department. </p>
<p>He&#8217;s blessed to be part of a system where his strengths are magnified, but if people are expecting him to carry his team based on his talent alone (on the way I objectively defined it) like Dwyane Wade or some other cat, people will be disappointed.</p>
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		<title>By: qUeSt???</title>
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		<dc:creator>qUeSt???</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:15:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i say, trade rip for gerald wallace!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i say, trade rip for gerald wallace!</p>
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		<title>By: youdontknow</title>
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		<dc:creator>youdontknow</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Nov 2008 17:08:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>disagree with QQ.  Rip is a very talented player;  good ball handler and underrated vision, hes worked extremely hard on his defense and is no longer close to a D liability, and he obviously has a pretty solid offensive arsenal.  Remember Rip leading UConn to the NC in 99?  or when he used to go off for 40 on a not so inconsistent basis?  

Rip has fitted his game to the Pistons system and whether he can adjust after 6 years of playing the same way remains to be seen, but to claim that he isn&#039;t talented is ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>disagree with QQ.  Rip is a very talented player;  good ball handler and underrated vision, hes worked extremely hard on his defense and is no longer close to a D liability, and he obviously has a pretty solid offensive arsenal.  Remember Rip leading UConn to the NC in 99?  or when he used to go off for 40 on a not so inconsistent basis?  </p>
<p>Rip has fitted his game to the Pistons system and whether he can adjust after 6 years of playing the same way remains to be seen, but to claim that he isn&#8217;t talented is ridiculous.</p>
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