Don’t Know How to Stop
Kevin Garnett, Dime #30Unless you’re a Boston (or Cleveland) fan right now, it’s hard not to pull for an underdog to come in and snap a long win streak by one of the League’s big dogs. For about 25 minutes last night it seemed Chris Paul and the Hornets would be the ones to bring down the Celtics, as they held a slim halftime lead on the same night James Posey received his ’08 title ring. (Between this one and the ’06 Miami ring that’s about the size of an apple, Posey’s holding more diamonds than a high-stakes poker tournament.) The champs responded like champs in the second half, though, putting together a 17-4 run in the third and exposing the absence of Tyson Chandler (neck) while extending the streak to 14 W’s and counting … CP was a beast with 20 points, 14 dimes and three steals, but with that white elbow sleeve he looked like somebody had thrown David West into the wash cycle … With all the hate Kevin Garnett has received post-championship, no one’s talking about Kendrick Perkins. Intensity is one thing, but he’s been overly snarling and bitter for no reason, leading the NBA in techs in the process. But if Perk takes a few more crownings like the one Hilton Armstrong gave him yesterday, maybe he’ll calm down … Meanwhile, the Sixers weren’t as much of a threat to stop the Cavs’ streak. LeBron put up 28 points, seven boards, seven dimes and three blocks — giving Andre Iguodala the contractually-obligated B.A. Baracus Intimidation Special — as Cleveland won #11 in a row … Oh yeah, and the Lakers got some get-back on the Kings, taking care of business at home behind Kobe‘s 32 points against a spirited Sacto squad. If nothing else, clearly we were premature in toe-tagging the Kings/Lakers rivalry … In his Phoenix debut, J-Rich looked a lot like Joe Johnson back when J.J. he was catching ‘oops and sticking threes running with Steve Nash. J-Rich scored 21 against Orlando and seamlessly transitioned into the Suns’ system, giving them some of that explosiveness back that they lost with the Shawn Marion trade. The reverse lob finish Richardson caught from Leandro Barbosa where he was almost looking down into the rim was filthy … In a nip/tuck game down the stretch, Hedo gave Orlando a one-point lead with seven seconds left on a tough fadeaway just inside the arc, but then the beleaguered Terry Porter actually drew up a great play for the game-winner: Grant Hill made the inbounds pass from midcourt up top to Amare, then got a back-pick from Steve Nash that allowed him to get open along the baseline behind Orlando’s defense. Amare’s pass was on-point and Hill converted the reverse layup … Why wasn’t Dwight Howard there to send Grant’s shot to the cotton candy man, you ask? He left in the third quarter with a knee injury that he says is mild, but scary nonetheless for the Magic, since it means significant playing time for Marcin Gortat if Dwight misses time. Gortat isn’t good, but he does crack our Top-10 list of NBA players we’d never, ever want to run across in a dark alley …
Baron Davis (photo. Tim Tadder)Blazers/Clippers was another thriller, going to double-OT as Baron Davis (27 pts) and Brandon Roy (38 pts, 9 asts) went shot-for-shot and Zach Randolph torched his old team for 38 and 11 boards. The Clips pulled away at the end, but Portland only has itself to blame. Steve Blake could have iced it multiple times late in the fourth, but he had a Nick Anderson moment, going 1-for-5 at the line during the final 30 seconds when he’s usually as cash as anyone … Whatever the Raptors did to Vince Carter in Jersey, Sam Mitchell wishes they would have done it in Toronto. When VC ripped their hearts out in their own building last month, it started a stretch where the Raps went 3-7 and Mitchell lost his job. Last night, Jay Triano‘s crew harassed Vince (3 pts) into an 0-for-13 showing. At some point, Raptors fans will start judging their coaches the same way Ohio State and Michigan football fans judge theirs: Making the playoffs is cool, but can you beat Vince Carter? … A few minutes into Pistons/Pacers — as Allen Iverson (17 pts, 12 asts) lit up T.J. Ford and Rodney Stuckey (21 pts) shot Marquis Daniels‘ eye out — Michael Curry realized Indiana’s guards couldn’t hold his guys off the dribble, so he unleashed an Iverson-Stuckey-Will Bynum monster that continually created buckets for themselves and open looks for Detroit’s bigs. Antonio McDyess turned into David West, sticking like 40 mid-range J’s, most of them thanks to Iverson. It looks like A.I. and ‘Dyess have formed an immediate chemistry, as ‘Dyess either plays Tom Rathman to A.I.’s Roger Craig, or eats off A.I.’s drive-and-kicks. It’s like Iverson is thanking McDyess for helping facilitate his escape from Denver … The Pacers hung around, mostly due to Danny Granger‘s 42 points, but Detroit’s old-heads all stepped up in crunch time to make crucial plays. ‘Sheed hit the go-ahead three with two minutes left, Rip (28 pts) had a couple key buckets to hold the lead, and Tayshaun altered a good-looking T.J. Ford shot that was Indiana’s last chance at forcing overtime … T-Mac is back, and earlier than expected. Ten days after he said he’d sit three weeks to rest his knee, Mac almost dropped a triple-double on the Warriors, finishing with 24 points, 10 boards and nine assists in a win … In the first quarter of Hawks/Heat, Josh Smith fired a cross-court pass that went into the stands and actually hit somebody. If you had seen the Miami crowd yesterday, you’d know that the probability of that happening was the same as if you blindly threw a dart into the crowd at a Larry the Cable Guy concert and hit a Black person … We’re out like Heat fans …
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December 13th, 2008 at 6:42 am
biggeddy says:
That Kobe nail-in-the-coffin dunk was something vicious…
Enough of the scrubs can’t wait ’til Chrismas to end Boston’s winning streak. Go Lakers!!!
December 13th, 2008 at 7:44 am
sans says:
Has anyone else noticed that Vince is completely bald nowadays? I now, he’s been rocking the baldy for a while now, but, for real, he couldn’t grow hair if he wanted to anymore. Someone better tell him to shave more often unless he’s come to grips with it already.
December 13th, 2008 at 7:54 am
that's whats up says:
Spurs 1/2 game out of first in the division – Houston up next
Things are looking good for the boys in black
December 13th, 2008 at 8:00 am
that's whats up says:
“To reach the players you have to be a player, and Dime Magazine puts us there.” — Mark Cuban
contractually obligated to post that ??
December 13th, 2008 at 8:07 am
mike says:
Anyone else notice that the Baron David triple to send it to OT was that same old play Dunleavy always runs. Baron just dribbled to the wing and did a pump fake/fadeaway…only he made it for once.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:21 am
smity far away says:
i’d like to see the clippers be good (not just lucky)…will it ever happen? can they go on a 10 game streak? will it ever happen?
December 13th, 2008 at 8:29 am
one66soul says:
Josh smith is an offensive liability. He needs to develop a consistent 12-15 foot jumper and dominate the post. Never shoot another 3point shot in his nba career.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:30 am
YOUNGFED..."chicks fall in love when they see how much my wrist cost" says:
Top 5′s To Date: PF’s & PG’s
Listed in order from top to bottom
Pf’s
KG – even though I hate the player can’t hate the game
Zach – Can anyone say Ballllliinnnn!!!!
Duncan – You know what it is….Fun-Da-Mentals
Dirk – I’ll shoot the lights out of this mutha
Sheed – Clutch award of the year…Killin’em softly.
PG’s
CP3…Pee-O – Best thatever did, atleast the last 2yrs.
D-Rose – Are You Not Entertain!!!
Billups – Anything you can do he can do better.
Boom Dizzle – like Kanye he’s funny stlye but a beast
Mayo – They used to call me Orenthal now they call me Murder.
Oh BTW good read today DIME.
YOUNGFED’S BANGER OF THE DAY: Ghostface “slept on”
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=31621
December 13th, 2008 at 8:36 am
YOUNGFED...Gabriel with a Sledge Hammer, Fallen Angel" says:
Greatest white rapper/rapper alive: SledgeHammer
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2008/10/bounceworthy_invincible.php
December 13th, 2008 at 8:43 am
Jay says:
Yep, Vince Carter is bald. Before the Nets went on their exhibition Euro trip, I hadn’t ever noticed because he always kept his head shaved. But over in Europe, he didn’t want to deal with European barbers messing up his head or something of that sort, so he didn’t shave for about a week and the balding patterned showed up on his head. He’s always looked kind of older than he really was because of the knee pads and the achy running style so to me, it’s somewhat appropriate. I can imagine him in his 50s, with spectacles, thin sprouts of grey hair, looking like a pleasant old man.
December 13th, 2008 at 8:53 am
that's whats up says:
a pleasant, very rich old man
December 13th, 2008 at 8:53 am
that's whats up says:
Top PG’s:
CP3
TP3
the rest don’t matter to me
December 13th, 2008 at 8:55 am
Rafa23 says:
oj mayo is a point guard?
you always hear something new that is …..uh… WRONG
December 13th, 2008 at 8:57 am
YOUNGFED...Gabriel with a Sledge Hammer, Fallen Angel" says:
Actually Mayo plays 1 and 2 pimpin’
December 13th, 2008 at 8:59 am
YOUNGFED...Gabriel with a Sledge Hammer, Fallen Angel" says:
@thats whats up
check out post #9 let me know what you think
December 13th, 2008 at 9:07 am
Rafa23 says:
lowry and conley play the 1. he may occasionally play the 1, but he is def. no pg.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:23 am
Dagomar says:
Youngfed:
First off, greatest white rapper alive is Aesop Rock.
Second, brutal top five lists – classic example of just looking at the points scored statistics. Zach gets his points but is the worst defensive PF in the league – to say nothing of his other faults. Sheed? Seriously, this year? Top 5 PF’s: 1) Duncan (if you don’t list him as a C), 2) KG, 3) Dirk, 4) Bosh, 5) Amare.
As for PG’s: 1) Paul, after him it’s Billups, TP, Williams and Nash in any order.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:24 am
srb says:
youngfed if you want to make a list of top 5 players in the league, just use the Celtics starting 5 ok?
December 13th, 2008 at 9:38 am
YOUNGFED..."I'm at the call of duty but my metal gears solid" says:
@SRB
lol
@Dogomar
1.) Did you listen to the song. I used to rhyme and won many a freestyle battle for the radio station but this chick is on another level so i’ll assume you didn’t play the track.
2.) I’ll give you Bosh over Sheed, but hey I’m from the D so it’s Sheed all day here.
3.) D-Will has fell off like rocky in Cliffhanger. lol
December 13th, 2008 at 9:45 am
rangerjohn says:
once again no spurs mention, dime is hatein on them HARD, come on austin let loose!!!!!
and yougfed your list of top 5 pf? zach over duncan? ANYONE OVER DUNCAN? your nuts. and putting 2 rooks on the best pg list? i repeat, YOUR NUTS!
December 13th, 2008 at 9:54 am
YOUNGFED..."I'm at the call of duty but my metal gears solid" says:
@Ranger
What does being a rook have to do with being on of the Best.
Example
Lebron
Durant
Howard
Melo
Dwade
Hell I could go on for days about rookies who were instantly the best. Also Right now Zach is playing better than pretty much everybody. In a minute his new name is gonna be “Zach 20-20″.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:57 am
vinny says:
I disagree with you fed!!
PG’S
1Paul-not best ever-but very good!
2Parker-if he doesnt get hurt-its not even close!
3Williams(same as above)
4Harris-needs to get more assists though
5Billups-Denver’s record speaks for him!
And fed- baron davis is more like boom fizzle!!
PF’S
1Garnett-hate all u want-he gets it done!
2Zach-he might not play a lot of defense-but he sure can score and rebound-in any system!
3.West-just wish he was more consistent
4Amare-actually threw a game winning pass last night-who knew!
5Dirk-offensively-a tough matchup, but his defense is worse than anyone above.
I dont have Duncan, or Jefferson on here because they’re playing Center
December 13th, 2008 at 10:02 am
YOUNGFED..."I'm at the call of duty but my metal gears solid" says:
Good list Vinny actually the only thing I didn’t understand was how Duncan didn’t even make your list, but hay whatever. Also Harris come on Dude ain’t never even making an allstar game but other than that good list.
December 13th, 2008 at 10:06 am
vinny says:
Fed- Duncan is playing center-It sure aint Bonner!! and Harris is going to the all-star game -as long as he keeps playing the way he has so far-and doesnt get hurt.
December 13th, 2008 at 10:11 am
YOUNGFED..."I'm at the call of duty but my metal gears solid" says:
Harris over D-Rose ain’t gonna happen.
December 13th, 2008 at 10:14 am
haslem says:
everyone gets numbers against gstate. great stats, or loss streaks are broken against G state this year, the league should send them a fruit basket
December 13th, 2008 at 10:20 am
vinny says:
Center’s
1 Duncan-
2Howard-Yao tie- mainly because Yao owns him!
4Jefferson-good numbers but damm his team sucks
5Ne Ne-but this is a tough choice
could go Biedrins?but damm big men sure do score a lot on him! Horford?-playing out of position and does a good job
but doesnt have great numbers. David Lee-double double man-but plays no defense- and is he playing center??
Shaq-hell no!! Okafour?-is that how its spelled- he is really inconsistent!
December 13th, 2008 at 10:22 am
vinny says:
Fed- i agree that could go either way-why not both?
December 13th, 2008 at 10:27 am
schoops says:
Gortat is a beast. Polish dudes are bulldogs, not to be fucked with.
December 13th, 2008 at 10:30 am
Dagomar says:
Seriously, SledgeHammer is pretty good but Aesop Rock is on another level.
The last time a rookie was instantly among the league’s best was when guys were still doing multiple years in college. Now rookies are usually raw. Lebron was maybe the best rookie we’ve seen Duncan, but he wasn’t an all-star in his first year and he didn’t deserve to be. Rose is a damn good rookie but he’s still raw as hell (his passing and shooting especially need work); if he’s an all-star it’ll be because the East is weak at the 1 and the 2. Rose certainly isn’t one of the best five points in the game; don’t confuse potential with current reality.
Another thing on Randolph: he’s also one of the bigger losers/team-killers I can think of in the NBA. And there’s this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7lvYf08X6tc
December 13th, 2008 at 10:37 am
vinny says:
You know Dagomar- he must have wanted Isiah fired, or didnt like him-or both. He hasnt seemed to play that selfish( or hold on to the ball so long)this year!
dont get me wrong-he’s a shooting mf.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:11 am
Max says:
If we’re talking top 5 PFs right now, I’d take ZBo over Amare, and I’m not a fan of Z’s game. But he brings it every game on the offensive end and actually seems interested in rebounding (unlike Amare). Z completely killed the Blazers last night — the Blazers announcers kept saying “I know Zach, he’s not going to pass it here”, and Z would take it into the crowd and still finish every time or draw a foul.
I hope JRich’s arrival in Phoenix frees Amare up to use his talent a little more, so that such a ridiculous comparison can no longer be made. But I wasn’t encouraged by noticing that after Howard left last night’s game with an injury, Gortat went off on the Suns after not scoring a point all season. Amare seems just as allergic to D as Zach.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:12 am
Dagomar says:
Personally I think he’s a moody, selfish douche who doesn’t play hard or well when the chips are down. He’s all about personal glory and not about the success of his team. I think he concentrates on scoring because that’ll get him acclaim but ignores the more difficult/less visible parts of the game that makes good players great. He’s one of the best fantasy players but no way in hell would I want him on my team. There’s a reason Portland and NY both traded him for scraps.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:14 am
EZ says:
come on, we all know that duncan is a pf, give the man some credit and put him right at the top. pf’s-duncan, kg, dirk…pg-paul, nash, dwill….these are players you can build a team around. they might not be the flashiest of players that i know you all love, but they’re all fundamentally sound and get the job done. their team’s record can prove that. just my opinion though.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:17 am
YOUNGFED..."chicks fall in love when they see how much my wrist cost" says:
@Dagomar
Asher Roth is better than Aesop Rock but neither one is gettin’ at invicible. Also right now D-Rose is better than D-Will
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=23055
Asher Roth
December 13th, 2008 at 11:22 am
EZ says:
on another note, why is it that when a player has a good game, mf’s come on here talkin junk like he’s the best player ever? come on…randolphs’s good, not top three or even a superstar. watch, jamal crawford will have a 40point night and people gonna start sayin he’s a top 5 sg. gtfoh. there’s plenty of other examples.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:22 am
Melo2TDot says:
it looked like cb4 found out about the chinese and their plans to get Yi into the ASG. Bosh gave him a few sweet facials
December 13th, 2008 at 11:26 am
YOUNGFED..."chicks fall in love when they see how much my wrist cost" says:
@EZ
If you think Zach has just had a couple of good games you should follow the NBA more.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:26 am
Dagomar says:
Agreed Fed, Asher is pretty sick.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:42 am
rodnets says:
I like Insane Clown Posse, is that wrong?
Those Cavs yellow unis are something distasteful.
No mention to Manu’s play that ended the hawks game neither.
Peace
December 13th, 2008 at 11:43 am
QQ says:
Cavs and Celts: BALLIN!!!
But damn… My Magic lost a close one… Good game though, with the effort and everything.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:49 am
Max says:
EZ,Dag…I’m with Fed on this one. You need to watch Randolph more. He might not be your kind of player but he makes use of every bit of his talent (at least offensively).
I don’t even know if the “being a douche” thing still applies. Yeah, he was a certified Jail Blazer, but on the Knicks he was pretty quiet and I never heard anything about him being a cancer. If anything, he was one of the most drama-free guys on Isiah’s Knicks. I bet if you ask the Knicks, they miss Jamal more as a person, but ZBo more as a player.
I never said Z was a superstar, though. But when I watch him, I know what I’m going to get, good and bad. I watch Amare or VC or Sheed, and I don’t know what I’m going to get, and it drives me crazy. Two different types of evils, I guess.
December 13th, 2008 at 11:54 am
YOUNGFED..."chicks fall in love when they see how much my wrist cost" says:
^^^Church^^^
December 13th, 2008 at 1:36 pm
rangerjohn says:
ok young it took me a while (had to take my boy to sports authority)
looking at the top PG’s (including your rooks) the list would go like this on effeciency
1) cp3 (30.85)
rondo (17.62)
2)harris (23)
3)kidd (20.7)
4)billups (20.05)
5)parker (19.15)
6)rose (18.36)
7) nash (17.86)
9)mayo (16.65)
10)williams (15)
and as for z-bo ahead of duncan, lets look at numbers here
ZR 21.6 pts, 11.2 rebounds (so goodso far) 1.6 assists, .3 blocks (getting worse) 1 steal, 2.58 turnovers, 2.8 fouls, 37 minutes and an efficiency of 22.53 while shooting 47%
TD 21.1 ppg, 10.7 rebounds, 3.2 assists, 1.8 blocks, .4 steals, 2.27 turnovers, 2.5 fouls in 35 minutes, shooting 53% and holding eff of 25.55
NO WAY zack is playing better then duncan not even right now, not even ever.
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December 13th, 2008 at 1:42 pm
that's whats up says:
FED, that chick is pretty tight – I got to check out more of her music but I like how she flows. “pop off at the mouth like Orville Redenbacher” – that ish was funny
and yes rodnets, liking insane clown posse is wrong – lol
December 13th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
Ian says:
guys comon u really arguin zbo over duncan really?????
and young comon anyone over duncan is not happening at the 4???
vinny
agree with your pgs but no yao at center???
btw parker woulda been 1 if he doesnt get injured the way he was going
youngfed
bro u cant have zbo over duncan even if zbo were avg 30 n 20 he doesnt play d like duncan
December 13th, 2008 at 3:08 pm
baron von faulk says:
Speaking of LTCG,
Did anyone catch Stu Scott’s atrocious impression of the “GIT R DONE!” comments last night? He acually “tried” it twice and to quote Greg Giraldo I cringed harder than watching my own mom in a bukkake video!
And why…in…the…hell… does dude intentionally wear a different colored glass eye or whatever, is that like a trendsetter fashion move there? He got…Gucci eyeball, he got…
Dude needs to be lined up in the front too, he went to Tim Duncan’s barber the other day I’m pretty sure.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:10 pm
Ian says:
vinny sorry just saw u had yao tied at 2 my bad
December 13th, 2008 at 3:17 pm
K Dizzle says:
Comparin Zach to Duncan is like comparin Soldier Boy to Jay Z lol
Glad Kobe felt the need to finally stomp on a team that had dreams of makin this a ‘rivalry’ – no KMart, no hope
I’m kinda gettin tired of Kendrick Perkins stompin aroun like he’s wreckin shop on teams when they big dogs are out. Chandler’ll kill that dude in N’Awlins and Bynum’ll show him what he missed in the finals last year….Merry Christmas,punk.
Props to T-Mac for doin what he did last night thru the pain. somethin like 30-10-9 is crazy.Talk to your cousin cuz he couldn’t even hit a shot against the Raps. Embarrassin.
I love how dudes playin Mac like they played DWade when he was hurt, sayin he fell off and bring in stupid trades, now that he ballin, those same heads are back on the nuts…
Top C – Howard
Top PF- Duncan
Top SF-Bron
Top SG-Kobe
Top PG-Paul
officially…
December 13th, 2008 at 3:22 pm
EZ says:
Fed and Max, i said randolph’s a good player…but imo, not anywhere near top 3 or even top 5 among pfs. i know he can average 20, 10 but what else has he done??? don’t get so excited when he has a 20, 10 game or even a 30,15 or whatever and proclaim he’s 3rd best. he’s proven he can do that but he’s not anywhere in a superstar, elite level. would any gm wanna build a team around him? would many players even wanna play with him? don’t know man.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:26 pm
EZ says:
did anyone notice vinny had west ahead of dirk and amare on the best pfs list? just wanted to point that out cause i thought it was a lil funny. your opinion though bro just like feds opinion that zbo better than duncan.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:47 pm
Austin Burton says:
@Baron — Speaking of Stu, can someone tell him that he doesn’t have to scream “Warriors, come out and plaay-aaay!” EVERY SINGLE TIME he calls a GS highlight? And again, I’ve never heard anyone but him say “sigg-nasty.” In fact, we should start a petition of things Stu is no longer allowed to say on-air.
December 13th, 2008 at 3:49 pm
YOUNGFED says:
My point was that he’s playing better this year not that he’s better.
December 13th, 2008 at 4:21 pm
Austin Burton says:
I’m the biggest Z-Bo fan in the world who’s not related to him, and even I think it’s a stretch to put him in the Top-5 of power forwards. And while Zach is getting more buckets than Duncan, I’d still say Duncan is playing better due to his rebounding and passing and leadership.
December 13th, 2008 at 5:48 pm
Max says:
FWIW, I defended ZBo, but only to play along with the conceit in this thread that Duncan was considered a center (established by Fed or Vinny)…and also to establish a counteropinion anchored in the reality that he’s been more consistent so far this season than folks like DWest or Amare or Sheed.
No way I put ZBo anywhere in the same universe as Duncan or Garnett, though, if we’re back to considering Duncan as a PF (which I do believe he is).
December 13th, 2008 at 7:04 pm
Three Stacks says:
No one says “sigg-nasty” anymore. At least not since Stu Scott started saying it.
December 13th, 2008 at 9:56 pm
baron von faulk says:
Yes I agree Austin, his act is ‘tarded and tired
December 14th, 2008 at 12:44 am
doc says:
PF-Timmy,KG,Dirk,Bosh,Amare in that order.PG’s-CP3,D Will,Kidd Billups,Nash, in that order with D Rose coming strong for that top spot.
December 14th, 2008 at 1:54 am
Ian says:
doc
kg is overrated
and parker not top 5 is not a real list u just hate the dude
i cant say yi , desmond mason, korver are the top 3 small fowards and tell everyone hey its my opinion cuz im talking out my ass every list has to have a little reality.
yours kidd and nash and rose over parker has none
btw not tryin to offend u but comon u gotta admit u just dont like him.
December 14th, 2008 at 5:17 am
doc says:
@ian I forgot about the little french cocksucker,put him at 3 on my list and bump the Canadian man who is kinda average without Coach Mike in his corner.
December 15th, 2008 at 4:06 pm
Ian says:
“little french cocksucker” HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
December 22nd, 2008 at 8:08 pm
Frank says:
What kind of coat is Kevin Garnett wearing?