NBA / Dec 9, 2008 / 3:14 pm

Who’s Better: Derrick Rose or O.J. Mayo?

We argue. You decide…

DERRICK ROSE (by Christian Grant-Fields)
I hate to sound like a douchebag, but come on; Derrick Rose wasn’t the first overall pick in the NBA Draft for nothing. Let’s break down why O.J Mayo, who received national recognition since he was in the seventh grade, wasn’t.

Look at their college careers. Both stayed for only one year, and in that one year Rose came within a three-point shot of winning the National Championship, while O.J. got knocked out in the NCAA Tournament first round. Memphis and USC, respectively, had deep rosters: Joey Dorsey, Antonio Anderson, Chris Douglas-Roberts, Robert Dozier for the Tigers, and Taj Gibson, Daniel Hackett and Devon Jefferson for the Trojans, just to name a few.

Derrick RoseDerrick Rose, Dime #32

The difference in the squads was the point guard play. O.J. and Hackett split time at the one for USC, while D-Rose came in and made everyone better … and that is what he is doing for the Chicago Bulls now.

Yeah, O.J. averages more points (21.0) and shoots better from three-point range (.389), but Derrick is not too far behind, dropping 18.5 points a night and shooting 49 percent from the field. Rose is also coupling those buckets with 6.1 assists per game. For a guard with weapons on his team like Rudy Gay (19.5 ppg), Hakim Warrick (9.7) and Marc Gasol (11.8), Mayo only dishes out 2.5 assists a game. Rose has six games this season where he has tallied nine assists or more. Mayo only has two games with five assists or more. Go figure.

Mayo will have a long career in the NBA as a professional scorer. I have no doubt in my mind that he could possibly lead the NBA in scoring some day, but Rose has the potential to be a player like Chris Paul, just way more athletic.

O.J. MAYO (by Austin Burton)
Don’t be swayed simply by the fact that Derrick Rose is in the All-Star ’09 discussion while O.J. Mayo’s name has barely surfaced. Not to play the “What if?” game, but you’ve gotta chalk that one up to circumstances.

Rose is playing for a more talented (albeit still below-.500) team, in a system where he dominates the ball and has carte blanche, in a conference that’s lighter at the guard spots. While Rose battles the Jose Calderons and Rajon Rondos of the world for an All-Star reserve spot, O.J. is up against the likes of Baron Davis, Steve Nash, Brandon Roy, Deron Williams, Kevin Durant and Chauncey Billups. For a rookie playing on a terrible team in a small market with no TV presence, no wonder he’s getting minimal All-Star consideration.

O.J. MayoO.J. Mayo, Dime #17

But step back and take a real good look at their pro resumes. Mayo ranks 15th in the NBA in scoring (21.0 ppg), highest among rookies and tops on a Grizzlies squad where he’s not even the offensive focal point. Less than two months into the season, O.J. already has seven games of 25-plus points under his belt, two of them against the Spurs. As an undersized (6-foot-4) shooting guard — where he’s inevitably going to take a lot of three-pointers because the Grizzlies are constantly playing from behind — Mayo is hitting an astoundingly high 47.1 percent from the field and is money from the charity stripe at 87.8 percent.

And that’s just this season. Throughout their basketball lifetimes, O.J. Mayo has been the standard by which Derrick Rose is judged. Going back to middle school and through college, O.J. was the rarely-disputed top player in the national high school Class of ’07, which produced 10 first-rounders in the ’08 NBA Draft. Just because Rose had his name called first on Draft Night, don’t think that alone means he’s better.

You think O.J. couldn’t have flipped a Memphis scholarship into a No. 1 selection? That he couldn’t have owned Conference USA while leading the ultra-talented Tigers to the brink of a national title? I was at Madison Square Garden last season when Mayo and Rose went head-to-head. Mayo outscored Rose 16-9, but what stood out most was his defense. Guarding Rose straight-up most of the time, O.J. shut him down, allowing Rose just nine shots and helping force him into five turnovers.

If Rose — explosive, athletic, kinetic — is the next Baron Davis on the court, O.J. is the next Chauncey Billups; efficient, consistent, shooter and slasher, better defender, a versatile guard who can play both backcourt spots and ultimately be a top option on a championship team. His numbers (2.5 assists) and role in Memphis don’t show it, but Mayo has point guard skills, and the sooner he moves there and utilizes the size and strength advantages he’ll have over opposing ones, he’ll be a beast. And given the choice between Baron and Chauncey, whom would you take?

Who do you think is better?

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  • Lucky

    Rose all the way. Mayo is explosive enough or athletic enough for my liking at the 2 guard spot, so I don’t see him reaching a Kobe or Wade level. But he is good at what he does which is scoring the ball. I also think his defense is overrated, it might have been decent in college, but I haven’t been impressed with his D in the pros as of right now.

  • Lucky

    Lucky says:

    Rose all the way. Mayo is NOT explosive enough or athletic enough for my liking at the 2 guard spot, so I don’t see him reaching a Kobe or Wade level. But he is good at what he does which is scoring the ball. I also think his defense is overrated, it might have been decent in college, but I haven’t been impressed with his D in the pros as of right now.

  • rick773

    I vote for Rose. I don’t know if the bulls would’ve won 1/2 the games they have with out D.Rose especially after Hinrich went down. Please close your eyes and imagine the Bulls having Ben Gordon or Larry Hughes log more than 30 minutes a game at the point. That queasy feeling you just got should solidfy my point.

  • Spliff 2 My Lou

    I’d say it’s pretty even right now as far as talent. Being a Bulls fan I’m just happy that Rose seems to be the player we wanted him to be. The one thing about Mayo though is that he seems to be a one trick pony. He doesn’t do much of anything but score. Rose is more of a leader and contributes in many ways.

    Mayo could end up the more dynamic scorer during his career but Rose will have the greater impact.

  • tobacher

    O.J. is like Mr. Bigshot?
    With 2.5 Assists a game?
    comeon

  • Derik

    Derrick Rose by a margin, the only thing Mayo can do is score…and that’s because he is on a terrible team too

  • dapro

    I gotta go Rose

    I didn’t think he’d be this good this soon but truth of matter is Rose seems to elevate his game and take over when needed. If you watched the Memphis vs Kansas game you can see why he was drafted #1. He makes those around him better but still has the ability to takeover when needed.

    OJ will be a prolific scorer but I can’t help but think he may be just that. From what I’ve seen, he hasn’t elevated teammates or dominated in big moments. From USC to Memphis he hasn’t made that transition from big time scorer to big time player/playmaker

  • kevin k

    OJ MAYO FOR ALLSTAR ONLY KOBE HAS BETTER STATS FOR A SG IN THE WEST

  • kevin k

    oh for you people that hate on Mayo’s 2.5 assists… did you even bother watching a grizzlys game? Memphis sucks. i will say their talent level is up there with OKC Thunder. Rudy Gay is overrated who jacks up more than 5 3s a game when he can’t shoot. In fact, they don’t have any shooters other than Mayo. They start 3 rookies and Millic and Conley are jokes. Someone said something about Hakeem Warrick… you serious?

    Rose gets to dominate the ball most of the time while being surrounded by guys like Gooden, Deng, Gordon, and Hughes who are WAYYY BETTER THAN Mayo’s cast. Mayo doesn’t dominate the ball at all. Also Mayo is matched up against guys like Kobe, Tmac, and Joe Johnson ( i was at the hawks game where mayo fouled out… mayo looked like a smurf guarding JJ).

  • the scola

    MAYYYO

  • Buffalo Brave

    They’re 2 different players, and play 2 different positions.

    They’re both future all stars and both potential HOF’s

    LOL @ there being a QUESTION of rose having a better surrounding cast!!!!

    But he’s still as special as the crossover that ended dre miller’s rep as a solid defender.

    Still as solid as the CROWNINGS he’s been giving people.

    Dumb stat’s for a rookie.

    Mayo is as someone said earlier in my mind, a shorter Kobe.

    I just happened to watch that explosion against Phoenix (that the coach blew btw) and couldn’t believe what i was seeing.

    Gotta give DIME credit for calling him out a long time ago.

    COPIOUS BUCKETS

    Ridiculous.

    And his stat’s are off the meter as well for a rookie.

    Only knock you can make on him is his asst/to ratio, but look at who he’s passing to and i dont want to start throwing guy’s like Conley under the buss.

    I gotta give it a push.

    The REAL question is…

    WHERE IN THE WORLD IS MICHAEL TREESLEY?!?

  • skywarp

    yea oj is beeter i agree with all of austins pick except for the yao vs howard

  • skywarp

    yea oj is better i agree with all of austin’s pick except for the yao vs howard

  • chronix8

    Mayo for sure. Shut down wade tonight, and his numbers are incredible. 20 games in with these numbers, it doesnt look like a fluke. His assist numbers shouldnt be compared to Rose, a PG.

    And everyone keeps saying they’d rather get a PG who does his job (controls tempo of the game, assists, etc) to a SG who does his job (score). I’d take Jordan over Magic or any day of the week.

  • Wajhi

    Anyone who says Rose can’t shoot yet or needs to learn to shoot has no credibility in this argument. He is actually a great shooter, and if you watch him play you can see that. His ability to find poeple and score the ball was clear from day one, here’s the point people are missing.

    1)Rose can score 25+ a game, except he is forcing himself to be a PG and a better teammate to duds like Gordon and Deng. If you see him snap in the 4th quarters against GS and Utah you can clearly see that the only thing holding him back from being a pure scorer is his willingness to be a true point gaurd.

    2)Mayo cannot be the pg or the teammate rose is. Mayo has and always will be a pure scorer.

    3)Having OJ Mayo is like having a hot girlfreind.
    Having Rose is like having a hot girlfreind who will do anything you ask her to do…

  • http://localkats.com Kose

    Wajhi says: Having OJ Mayo is like having a hot girlfreind.
    Having Rose is like having a hot girlfreind who will do anything you ask her to do…

    HaHa.. so true. But I love your thought process. Never even saw it in that light.

  • flavur

    D rose is good and is definitely a good pg I mean he is putting up the same numbers that tony parker was putting up in his 5th or 4th year but I like OJ because he doesn’t have to use his athleticism as much (ala brandon roy it’s called sneaky athleticism) as rose because rose’s jumpshot is not as efficient as OJ which is why D rose goes for layups and dunks most of the time and he’s become comfortable doing so which is not a problem I do see him developing his jumpshot in another 2 seasons but mayos jumpshot is efficient for a rookie and his job is to score not pass because he is not a pg but I also see him in a season or 2 getting better at passing and creating better shots for himself and his teammates like Dwade did in his 3 season. For now though I would not pick any because 1. they’re rookies
    2. They’re on losing teams(rose’s team is better but they’re in the east)
    3. They haven’t even finished they’re first season yet

    I personally think that they will both share the ROY trophy as co-ROY because they’re so equally matched and they both have equally the same different amount of flaws.

  • KAKEJELLY

    Yo, Dime! I need some help with a research paper for school on who’s gonna win NBA Rookie of the Year.

  • http://dimemag Nate Reynolds

    Man OJ MAYO ans DERRIK ROSE LOL. Ok now Rose is good but he is no OJ at all. Mayo is the truth playing head to head wityh guys like Kobe,T-Mac,Hamilton just all the guys thaT we consider the face of the NBA ans=d he competes with them. Rose has skills but he is just not going to cut it in this case maybe you can ask this question when he is being compared to Russell Westbrook! OJ MAYO ALL DAY EVERYDAY!

  • balLN

    Man forget what the rest of yall saying man oj mayo will kill derrick rose. oj had the better stats and the better season only reason he didnt win rookie of the year is because he had a sucky team derrick had player that could step up oj had only one rudy gay so i think if he would have made the playoffs he would have won rookie of the year.

  • Jeremy

    they play different positions but i would say there is not much between them pretty equal

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