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Kobe Bryant (photo. Chris Sembrot)With so many down-to-the-wire finishes throughout a full morning-til-night schedule of games, MLK Day for the NBA felt like one of those Big Dance first-round Thursdays. The main event saw one-handed Kobe Bryant square off with LeBron James in a Lakers/Cavs matchup that honestly didn’t live up to the hype. Already playing with his jacked-up right pinkie, Kobe dislocated the ring finger on that same hand early into the first quarter, but stayed in the game and gutted out a 20-point, 12-assist effort, later saying he doesn’t expect to take any games off with this new injury. Meanwhile, the Cavs’ injuries (no Delonte, no Big Z) finally caught up to them, as L.A. was simply deeper, more talented and all-around better in this one, dominating the second half and winning 105-88 … The two headliners did their thing: Kobe (9-22 FG) dropped his fadeaways and tough finesse shots, like the fourth-quarter runner he hit while driving to his left and headed out of bounds, twisting his body and putting just the right arc on it to draw all net. LeBron (25 pts, 9 rebs, 4 stls, 9-25 FG) made some J’s and beasted his way to the rim, like the second-half dunk he caught on Lamar Odom when he willed his way through the Lakers defense and punched it with the left. With the “Best Player on the Planet” debate left unsettled, the difference in the game itself was guys like Trevor Ariza and Sasha Vujacic hitting timely threes, Pau Gasol putting up 22 points and 12 boards, and Sun Yue playing an inspiring 30 seconds of ball that was worthy of a Rookie/Sophomore Game nod … Celtics/Suns was a rout. At one point in the first quarter, TNT’s Reggie Miller and Kevin Harlan were assessing Boston’s success and both agreed that the key to the C’s wasn’t KG, Pierce or Ray, but Rajon Rondo. Right on cue, Rondo (23 pts, 7 asts) gave Steve Nash his patented fake-dish layup, then on the next possession, hit Garnett with a perfectly-placed ‘oop … Amare was a total non-factor. Finishing 0-for-7 from the field (3 pts) with one rebound and four turnovers, STAT didn’t do anything to make guys fear him again. Forget the offense; multiple times he lost one-on-one rebounding battles where he had the inside position, and defensively didn’t do anything either … Nothing was going Phoenix’s way. Even when they’d have a good defensive possession they’d get scored on, like when they forced the ball into Big Baby‘s hands with the shot clock running down and he nailed a 20-footer … How uncomfortable was that Terry Porter/Cheryl Miller interview after the first quarter? Porter clearly didn’t want to be there and was in monotone-answer mode, looking Cheryl dead in the eye with about six inches of space between them. Joe Namath wishes he could have gotten that close to Suzy Kolber … Already playing without David West (back spasms) against the Pacers, the Hornets lost Tyson Chandler (ankle) and Hilton Armstrong (knee) in the course of the game and had to roll with Sean Marks, Melvin Ely and James Posey as their crew of big men. Maybe the worst part about it was that Posey therefore couldn’t guard Danny Granger because he had to stay in and play the four, leaving Rasual Butler to get lit up for 30 … The Hornets still led most of the way, though, since Peja (26 pts, 5 threes) woke up feeling like it was the year 2000, and Chris Paul (27 pts, 9 asts) is just unstoppable. But Indiana stayed close, and in the final minute, T.J. Ford ripped CP in the open court and went in for a game-tying layup. It wasn’t really a rip, though: CP was trying to cross T.J. up, and in the process dribbled the ball off T.J.’s foot. And after the Hornets announcers saw the replay, they acted like T.J. had done something wrong and deserved to be on the FBI’s 10-most wanted list. After Ely put N.O. up by one and T.J. bobbled the ball out of bounds on a crucial possession, Hornets color commentator Gil McGregor went into a fit: “That’s JUSTICE! That’s KARMA! Karma came back and caught him!” … Of course McGregor was silent when Granger stuck a deep three over two guys to tie the game up with 2.5 seconds left, but that only left the door open for CP to drop a fadeaway triple at the buzzer to win it …
Derrick Rose, Dime #32Some of the Dime crew was at MSG for Knicks/Bulls. Before the game, Al Harrington gave a short but nice speech honoring Dr. King. You could clearly see that it meant something to Al to get the opportunity on that stage, talking about MLK, “Helping our country get to where we are today — all of us.” … At first it looked like the Knicks were trying to neutralize Derrick Rose with a zone, because Jared Jeffries (starting at center) kept picking Rose up on the perimeter. Turns out that was just who Mike D’Antoni assigned to guard Rose. And surprisingly, Jeffries didn’t do a bad job. The problem was that the Knicks couldn’t work their way around Chicago’s screens, allowing Rose to set guys up and get his own shots (20 pts, 8 asts) despite not being that confident in his jumper … Danilo Gallinari scored nine points off the bench, including a monster two-hand dunk and a big three-pointer in the fourth quarter. And we don’t wanna seem like we’re hating, but the kid has potential to be the next Special Agent Jack Malone; almost immediately after checking into the game, he threw up a fadeaway over Kirk Hinrich early into the shot clock, and on his next touch threw up a prayer so ugly that some fans seemed to think it was a pass to Tim Thomas … Q-Rich led the Knicks to the W, scoring 24 on an array of threes and surprisingly great post moves. Chris Duhon (19 pts) took over down the stretch, playing like he was personally trying to show the Bulls front-office what it was missing … With two minutes left in the fourth quarter, Samuel L. Jackson appeared on the MSG Jumbotron. In a scene reminiscent on the “Chappelle’s Show” skit, he screamed into the camera, “LET’S GET OUT OF OUR SEATS AND MAKE SOME NOISE!” He might as well have added, “I AIN’T SCREAMING! THAT’S JUST HOW I TALK!” … Pre-game locker room report: Larry Hughes had a jewelry collection in his stall big enough that it looked like he was trying to hawk stuff on Canal Street … E-mail from Dime’s Aron Phillips: “Derrick Rose and Tyrus Thomas are the next Chris Paul and Tyson Chandler. Mark my words.” … Other big stat lines from Monday: Yao Ming scored 31 in a win over Denver; Greg Oden had a career game with 24 points and 15 boards against the Bogut-less Bucks; Allen Iverson poured in 27 in a win over the Grizzlies; Jamal Crawford dropped 28 in a win over Washington; and Al Jefferson gave the Clippers 20 points and 17 rebounds in a Wolves win … Now that the Eagles are done and Philly fans can start paying attention to the Sixers again, naturally they would see their six-game win streak snapped. Blame Dirk Nowitzki … Ray Felton‘s had a run of big games and game-winners lately, but yesterday he ran into Tim Duncan. Down two in the final seconds, Felton drove and tried to put up a floater over TD, but had it sent back in his face. One Boris Diaw miss later, and the Spurs escaped with a tough win … Jamario Moon also came up short during crunch-time of Raptors/Hawks. Thirty seconds left and Toronto down one, Moon took (and bricked) an ill-advised three, which got him chewed out by Chris Bosh in the ensuing timeout. CB4 didn’t hold his tongue in the post-game, either. “Just take it to the basket, man,” Bosh told reporters about his discussion with Moon. “We can get a better shot.” Joe Johnson (28 pts) hit a jumper on the other end to push the lead to three, and Jason Kapono — who should be taking threes in the final minute — missed one at the buzzer. Bosh put it best afterward: “We’re running out of time. We’ve got to do it now or we’ll be watching the first round of the playoffs eating popcorn.” … We’re out like Moon …
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January 20th, 2009 at 7:59 am
rangerjohn says:
spurs tried everything to give another game away, TD said “wait we are supposed to be winning these not giving them away”
January 20th, 2009 at 8:00 am
jones says:
That game between the Lakers and Cavs is all the evidence one needs that LeHype isn’t the best player in the game. He failed when the stakes were high. Best record in East vs best record in West and he was awful.
He is NO MVP. He’s just not ready for the next step, but these days that Nash was twice an MVP, Dirk was an MVP and so on you have to wonder if the MVP has any validity or value. It’s just an award for services rendered to the NBA and a way for the game to be marketed. It’s not a testament of being the best or the most valuable player in the league.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:02 am
iannyb says:
Go Lakers nice game and Kobe showed why he is the best platyer in the game. You should try playing with 7 fingers.All in all I think MLk would be smiling in his grav because there were some scintillating games.Good job David Stern and the players.
From St Lucia
Ianny b
January 20th, 2009 at 8:04 am
jones says:
“TNT’s Reggie Miller and Kevin Harlan were assessing Boston’s success and both agreed that the key to the C’s wasn’t KG, Pierce or Ray, but Rajon Rondo.”
As to how other teams haven’t figured this out is beyond me. The Lakers did a great job of neutralizing him and ended up with a W.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:05 am
springz says:
Thanks!
January 20th, 2009 at 8:07 am
that's whats up says:
Spurs/Bobcats
Game of the Year
Lebron’s left handed cram on Odom was just NAAASTY
January 20th, 2009 at 8:08 am
fallinup says:
You saw the vast differences between Bron and Kobe’s game. Seemed when the game was on the line, all Bron could try to do was get to the line. But Phil Jackson had his “no layups” rule in full effect. I was loving those hard fouls. Good job, Bynum!
Kobe was a killer. He finessed his way to his spots. And the jumpers he hit over Lebron were money. But most importantly, with guys like Sasha, Pau, and Ariza hitting their shots…all Kobe had to do was run the floor.
We saw the best team in the league man handle the best team in the East. This says a lot about how deep LA is.
The championship runs through L.A. this year.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:10 am
fallinup says:
And BTW, Dime. Big Z and Delonte wouldn’t have made THAT much of a difference. There’s no touching L.A.’s combined length and quickness.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:11 am
buffaloballa says:
…who’s the MVP?!
January 20th, 2009 at 8:14 am
Quedas says:
@jones
Yeah, he lost one game… f*** him! Who does he think he is? Everybody knows you can only be an MVP if you have a completely perfect season! C’mon. Did Jordan ever lose to the Pistons? Did Magic ever lose to the Celtics? I think not! They were always drop dead gorgeous perfect, right? Right?!
I’m sorry, I’m having a sarcasm overdose…
PS: LeHype?… Jesus Christ do puns annoy me… Is it me, or the only person who enjoys puns is the one who makes them?
January 20th, 2009 at 8:16 am
creamio says:
No Z and no Delonte hurt the Cavs big time, they are 2 of the best players on the team and contribute alot to the Cavs offense. Without those two in the game it was far too easy to sit on Lebron…
The only thing to take from this game is that the Lakers are better than a depleted Cavs; we’ll see how these two teams actually stack up when Z and Delonte are back and Lebron has options and players to contribute to the scoring column. They will also open up the lane for him.
It was frustrating to watch Lebron settle for jumpers, instead of driving, or trying to recieve the ball closer to the basket. However, Kobe played just as poorly.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:19 am
josh tha roc says:
i’m having a hard time with Amare. Wasn’t HE supposed to win MVP this season???
Surley he gets it going?? Right…..
January 20th, 2009 at 8:20 am
jones says:
Excuses are for losers. If Big Z and West had been in and the Cavs lost we’d have some other list of excuses. If the Cavs had won we’d be hearing about how great LeTravel is.
Fact of the matter is that Kobe, even though was having a bad shooting night, steps up when it matters whereas LeBron just disappears like he did in his finals sweep at the mercy of the Spurs a few years back.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:30 am
Austin Burton says:
“Excuses are for losers.”
Does that include the “If we had Bynum we’d have won the championship” excuse?
January 20th, 2009 at 8:31 am
creamio says:
How did kobe step up? He shot 9/22 to lebrons 9/25… they both sucked, the difference was the supporting cast. Big Z helps the interior D big time, he would have helped neutralize Bynum who the cavs couldn’t match up against because of his size, and Delonte has been playing great lately and would at least be able to get the ball to Lebron unlike Daniel Gibson who dribbles the ball off of his foot every two minutes.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:34 am
will says:
Its very easy for Kobe to step up when he gets to go to the line when someones finger touches him.
The difference in the game was Pau and Bynum. They dominated the cavs big men. Sasha is finally playin like he was the year cavs got to the finals. Pavlocic is a bum he puts up a couple nice plays a game, but chokes in the long run.
If Lakers fans think this game means something about the rest of the season then they gotta be sh***ng their pants thinking about how Orlando will sweep them in the finals.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:44 am
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
Obama Up!
Hey DIME what is the feel in NYC with inauguration day! Anything special poppin off?
Glad Houston got the win, and the call. Sometimes you need the ref. to bring it on home.
Kobe is just a beast. To me Kobe is still the best.
I really don’t think the outcome would have been different even if you thrown West and Big Z in there. Don’t get me wrong it may have been closer, perhaps even overtime.
Still I think the Lakers win. 7 game series with Kobe on LeBron I think the Lakers win there also.
My President is Black!
January 20th, 2009 at 8:45 am
fallinup says:
Kobe stepped up just by saying. “I’m guarding Lebron” at the beginning of the game. Which is something Bron proved to be futile when he did end up on Kobe. Bryant on the other hand, went at him the whole game.
Who gives a shit that they were both 9/25. When it mattered, Kobe took it to the rack and was killin in the 4th.
As it stands now. Orlando has the only bragging rights to standing up against the Lakers in a 7 game series. All the woulda coulda shoulda’s are pointless.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:47 am
fallinup says:
And I’m with Gee.
Kobe’s still the best.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:49 am
jones says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3FyA3BO1gSc
LeCrabDribble sucked yo!
January 20th, 2009 at 8:52 am
UncheckedAggression says:
Anybody that thinks the LA/Clev game is an example of Kobe being the best player just doesn’t have the credibility to argue anymore. The game showed us exactly how much help Kobe has and how little Lebron has. Gasol played like a stud–going 11 for 13 from the field is pretty good. And Vujacic was as important as Kobe in that game. We’ll see if their play is duplicated in the playoffs.
January 20th, 2009 at 8:53 am
the_don_mega says:
@Austin – “Excuses are for losers.”
Does that include the “If we had Bynum we’d have won the championship” excuse?
- you caught him right on the kisser there bruh! LOL!!! oh and BTW… the Cavs/Lakers game only proved one thing… not that Mamba is the better player between him and Bron (i know ya’ll Laker fans would be jwain’ me up for this…), that the Lakeshow is pretty deep enough to take the ‘chip back in LA…
January 20th, 2009 at 8:55 am
jones says:
All of a sudden it is about help. When he’s winning he’s the King of the NBA and not his help. When he’s losing it’s the help.
You can’t have it both ways. He’s either the King and can really step up when it matters and get the credit for it or continue to fizzle when it counts and live off the hype.
Help my foot!
January 20th, 2009 at 8:56 am
Duke says:
I wonder what the excuse is going to be this year if the Lakers don’t win the chip?
January 20th, 2009 at 8:57 am
jones says:
“I wonder what the excuse is going to be this year if the Lakers don’t win the chip?”
We can recycle the excuse Cavs fans have had for LeHype getting swept in the finals. You always butcher the help even if there is help.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:00 am
the_don_mega says:
@jones – i guess your right bruh… but you must’ve forgotten same goes for Kobe as well back when Shaq just left… it was always about Kobe being the best player and would’ve won the ‘chip if he had some legit help… you prolly got selective amnesia bruh… and yeah, the Lakeshow can definitely take the ‘chip this year… its for them to lose…
January 20th, 2009 at 9:04 am
Big Aaron says:
Vujacic was just launching at will at one point and I didn’t think he could miss.
As an Orlando fan, I can’t wait for the next week-10 days: Boston and Cleveland at home, Miami on the road, then a trip to T-dot. Some potentially great games here, and a string that could make or break or bid for a top-two seed.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:06 am
srb says:
@Quedas
That wasn’t a pun. Just sayin..
Did anyone catch scalabrine stuffing Amare with two hands?
January 20th, 2009 at 9:11 am
creamio says:
OMG dumb homers!!! The Cavs are missing 2 STARTERS! What team in the league is going to be able to compete with the Lakers without 2 of their starters?
And as for Kobe guarding Lebron…. please, Lebron can blow past him whenever he wants which was evident last night, the problem is the rest of the Lakers big men are packing the paint and wating on him because THE CAVS ARE MISSING 2 STARTERS!
January 20th, 2009 at 9:12 am
Duke says:
I think you people are reading too much into one game.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:18 am
Smitty313 says:
Kobe and Lebron had bad shooting nights. But Kobe played better when it mattered in the 2nd half. That’s what people always says Lebron dose. But Lebron was shooting some terrible shots at the end of that game, turning the ball over trying to get foul calls when Ariza clearly picked him clean. I love Kobe and Lebron, and I think Lebron is the MVP so far, but I would rather have Kobe when it’s crunch time.
Austin a known Kobe hater, the Lakers didn’t lose in the finals because Bynum wasn’t there. They lost because there big men were soft which I think they still are.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:18 am
fallinup says:
yawn….excuses, excuses.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:21 am
Smitty313 says:
Lebron can gaurd Kobe. He’s not going to stop Lebron everytime, it’s about sending him where you want him to go. No one person can stop a Kobe, Lebron, D-Wade one on one.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:22 am
Smitty313 says:
I meant to say Kobe anc guard Lebron.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:22 am
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
UncheckedAggression says:
Anybody that thinks the LA/Clev game is an example of Kobe being the best player just doesn’t have the credibility to argue anymore.’
Unchecked you tell em!
That is exactly right! I totally and completely agree!
Kobe been the best!
Most def. that one game is just an example or a small section of what he can do.
You totally can’t go by one game you got to go over the course of time. Overall play, defense,championships, accolades, team and individual accomplishments, street cred., peer cred., tenacity, work ethic, and so much more.
So yes it’s not by just this one game people. Kobe been the best.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Kobeef says:
@Jones
I think the rest of the league figured out the “stop Rondo and you stop the Celtics” strategy when the C’s went on the losing streak. Somehow teams forgot about this for a while but it is pretty clear to me that if teams play tough D on Rondo the C’s start to come apart.
STAT has been a huge disappointment since Shaq arrived. I don’t know exactly what happened but getting outplaed by Scalabrine (which is what happened) is an all time low.
What did we learn from Laker-Cavs?
That you can’t with a championship with one star anymore. Kobe is great but he loses without solid games from Gasol, Bynum, Odom. Lebron is great but when he is the only player making things happen the Cavs are not a contender.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:30 am
Dagomar says:
I love how all the Lakers fans are coming out and saying this game showed the difference between Kobe and Lebron.
Where were they last year when Lebron was beasting Kobe? Lebron has scored four more points than Kobe over their matchups (with a higher FG%) while pulling down more rebounds and averaging more assists – all that while Lebron entered the league when Kobe was in his prime. Oh, and the Cavs are 6-4 against the Lakers since Lebron. What does that prove, exactly?
This was a pretty typical game where two good teams play, and one just can’t make shots. Having two starters out also hurt the Cavs. The Lakers loaded up on Lebron, yet the Cavs couldn’t do the same to Kobe because the Lakers supporting class played tremendous basketball – especially the frontcourt.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:33 am
Austin Burton says:
@Smitty313 — “…known Kobe hater.” OK, I’ll take that. I’m not his biggest fan, but I do respect Kobe’s game. But I was more making the point that any Lakers fan who’s saying “Excuses are for losers” must have forgot what they were saying last June, when they were all about the excuses after the Finals.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:36 am
Austin Burton says:
@Kobeef — Not exactly true about Amare and Shaq. In the second half of last season, Amare was playing some of his best basketball after the Shaq trade. I don’t know what’s going on with him this season; he seems to play his best games when Shaq sits out, like when he dropped 49 on the Pacers with Shaq out of the game (either sitting out or in foul trouble, I can’t remember).
January 20th, 2009 at 9:45 am
fallinup says:
30 minutes. 0-7. 7 touches isn’t what Amare should be getting. I think he’s frustrated. Wouldn’t you be frustrated if you got the same amount of touches as Matt Barnes? Who only played 13 minutes.
I hate picking on Porter. But maybe he doesn’t know how to use Shaq and Amare as effectively as Amare wants him to. I wouldn’t put that past him. I still think Porter sucks.
January 20th, 2009 at 9:46 am
the_don_mega says:
@Kobeef – What did we learn from Laker-Cavs?
That you can’t with a championship with one star anymore. Kobe is great but he loses without solid games from Gasol, Bynum, Odom. Lebron is great but when he is the only player making things happen the Cavs are not a contender.
- i agree…
January 20th, 2009 at 9:54 am
ticktock6 says:
I don’t even like Kobe, but I appreciate how he gutted it out last night. One game doesn’t prove who’s better than anyone. I know I’m a huge fan of neither player, but I like Kobe’s game better than LeBron’s. In the end, though, that’s just an opinion. You can try to use one game to justify which you think is better, but at the end of the day, still an opinion.
Re: the Hornets’ announcers, they are fairly cringingly awful. We’re sorry.
Not only was that CP’s first buzzer beating game winner, but it’s the first one in YEARS that’s happened at home (a lot of years if you don’t count OKC as home). The Hornets always seem to win on last minute shots in other teams’ buildings.
January 20th, 2009 at 10:03 am
Austin Burton says:
@ticktock6 — One good moment from the Hornets announcers: 4th quarter, after Indy cut the lead to four and N.O. missed on their end, Jarrett Jack brought the ball down and didn’t pass to anyone before taking a bad shot. McGregor said, “They’ve gotta get a point guard. I mean, I like Jarrett Jack, but you see what they’re missing.”
January 20th, 2009 at 10:06 am
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
Oh know! I not realize that today is day after Jesus (Kobe) play God (Lebrons)… Yog feel sad today to know that endless debate will go on and on.
Yog ams 6ers fan and not like Lakers or Celtcs or Lebrons…
January 20th, 2009 at 10:08 am
johnny says:
LOL at the Sun Yue comment.
But, seriously, if he is on next year’s All-Star ballot…
January 20th, 2009 at 10:09 am
johnny says:
Anybody else wish Kobe woulda just got the surgery?
I hate it when guys come into the playoffs gimpy.
The better the player, the more I hate it.
January 20th, 2009 at 10:20 am
that's whats up says:
I think the real point that is missing here is that we haven’t even reached the all-star break.
The playoffs are all about momentum, matchups, team defense and team chemistry.
I’ll take the hottest team/s at the end of the season versus all these Laker/Cleveland/Boston arguments now. They’re nice teams, but they’re nice right now. Who’s going to be nice come June?
January 20th, 2009 at 10:21 am
rell says:
Good win by Boston. Looking at the end of the 4th, my question for Doc Rivers is why don’t Bill Walker get more playing time during the course of the game. When the Celtics goes to the bench in the 2nd and leave Ray Ray on the court with 4 bench players, why is Walker still on the bench and not on the floor playing. My fear is when T.Allen gets back, Walker will not get anymore PT.
Good win by the Lakers against the Cavs. The Cavs do miss Big Z post game and rebounding. It is just 1 game so everyone need to stop acting like this game determine who will win the finals. Both teams have to make it to the finals first, and I think the Celtics, Magic, Spurs, and Hornets will have a say about that.
January 20th, 2009 at 10:23 am
johnny says:
I forget which game it was on TNT, but one of the announcers went on some “Ernie doesn’t like me” shpeel that went back and forth and then the other ends up going “now is not the time,” and then they start calling the game.
Another cringer when Cheryl Miller was describing “NBA Cares for Kids” or whatever it’s called and the game-play guy cut in too early going “no, no, no” over her voice.
January 20th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Hi, Jurg from Denmark says:
hi hi mr burton from jurg.
January 20th, 2009 at 10:27 am
McLovin says:
the big difference I still see between Lebron and Kobe is the stat I heard when Lebron missed the game winner against Chicago and they eventually lost in O.T. which is Lebron being 2/22 in the last 5 seconds of a game…not sure where Kobe is at but I am sure he is a lot better than that and that plays a big part in who I am taking as the best player is their ability to come through when it matters most…Lebron is a close second
January 20th, 2009 at 10:37 am
PWeezy says:
Moon and Kapono suck they should be bench on crunch time. this is like the 4th game in two weeks that they lost in the end it all started on NOV 21st when Vince carter beat them in overtime raptors haven’t bounce back after that tough loss
weeze
January 20th, 2009 at 10:41 am
LAballer says:
yeah i agree..its just one game..you cant base predictions and “best player in the game” arguements on one game..but what you can do is say kobe outplayed lebron in that one game. recently everyone has been saying how unstoppable and god-like lebron is and i think someone brought up a great point the other day explaining how kobe is one of those few players who plays better and better the more angrier he gets..and i think all the talk about lebron set him off..i love the fact that he took it upon himself to defend lebron and prove that you cant just say lebron is the best based on some of the things he has been doing this year..look at wade..he is doing incredible things but on a horrible team..i guarantee if you give wade a team like lebron’s or kobe’s then he is in that “best player of the game” talk as well..thats a whole diff situation tho..back to these two..i think missing two starters definitely effected the cavs but the lakers arent exactly healthy..some of them are playing through injuries too..no excuses just like none were made when we lost to the magic the other day..none by me at least..they beat us in a good game..and we beat the cavs in this one (and no excuses should have been made for our loss in the finals last year..yeah we were injured but we were still deep enough to take it..we got outplayed, outhustled and punked..straight up)..again just one game..but a great win for the lakers in terms of confidence after losing two in a row..i just think this brings the whole lebron is God talk down a notch to a level of where it should be..they are neck and neck right now with lebron outplaying kobe in other games..just not this one..not in the fourth quarter no way..kobe hit some amazing shots in his grill..so you can argue both sides and all that..shit..give lebron the mvp..who cares? im going to the parade bitches!
January 20th, 2009 at 10:45 am
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
A lot of Cleveland fans sound so salty today. Lighten up!
Cause we all know, had Cleveland won, all LeBron lovers would have come out in mass.
Talking bout he is the greatest thing since grits, and how he did it without two starters, and how Kobe isn’t this and that.
Like someone else said, it’s early so don’t trip. If anything LeBron will use this for motivation, so you could say it was a good loss.
Don’t be so mad Toine.
January 20th, 2009 at 10:50 am
LAballer says:
another point i just got to make..THANK GOD
January 20th, 2009 at 10:51 am
LAballer says:
another point i just got to make..today is a GREAT day..THANK GOD we finally have an intelligent person running the greatest country in the world again..
January 20th, 2009 at 10:57 am
LakeShow84 says:
Its funny to me how when Lebron is winning games he has a great supporting cast but when he loses games all of a sudden his team doesnt have talent..
I’ve been saying Lebron has always been blessed to have a true C and decent PF on his team.. Most teams DONT have that.. And i know Ilkauskas is better than Bogut so no one start with the BS..
And Im sorry Dime, (especially you Austin), i know you guys had the big Lebron Mug ready to post up.. Kobe OUTPLAYED Lebron and locked him up most of the game.. All Lebron can do when it comes down to it is drive and either finish and/or hope he gets a call.. NO J, BAD FT%, HORRIFIC 3 PT%.. And he couldnt stick my boy for nothin in the 4th.. And hes 2/22 in the final 5 seconds of game?!?! And these things i just pointed out are Lebrons flaws PERIOD.. this has nothing to do with last night but thats my opinion on the man and he proved me right..
Im out like the Hype.. And dont trip peeps it was one game in January.. Playoff time is when the money is earned.. I know Lebron fans are simmering right now but this game doesnt mean anything.. but if Lebron wouldve won.. Wow i cant imagine the BS i would be reading..
January 20th, 2009 at 11:03 am
LakeShow84 says:
And this Kobe mangled fingers thing is really getting under my skin..
He shouldve just had surgery and all of us fans could sleep much easier at night.. But still the man can will himself to play through anything.. Thats the one thing i admire about him.. he aint soft thats fasho..
January 20th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
@Austin – “Excuses are for losers.”
Does that include the “If we had Bynum we’d have won the championship” excuse?
Yes, it does… We didn’t win no excuses…
Also the biggest difference is their persona’s… Kobe at the end of the game takes over scores and makes the correct passes, Lebron misses free throws in the clutch.
January 20th, 2009 at 11:13 am
LakeShow84 says:
And for the record..
Yes Kobe is still the best player in the world.. Sorry
Yes Lebron will win MVP and rightfully so.. So be happy
Yes we will win a championship because WE DONT CARE ABOUT NONE OF THIS SHIT ABOVE.. ITS ALL ABOUT GETTING THAT SHAQ FREE CHIP!!
Woops did i say Shaq-free??
January 20th, 2009 at 11:22 am
fallinup says:
@ Gee
Nothing is greater than grits. Don’t you forget it buddy!
January 20th, 2009 at 11:29 am
the antoine says:
kobe was making some tought shots over lebron in the 4th and he did check him a couple times and i even remember him moving his feet to cut him off on a fast break where lebron is unstoppable.. lebron is the best in the game right now.. but kobe is on the best team.. and thats all that matters at this point for kobe.. or i would hope so.. and he shot 9/22 not 9/25.. and saying that big Z would make a difference is crazy.. i highly doubt he could man up on bynum or pau.. and pau would be out on the elbow guarding which is better for him anyway. delonte i could see make a difference because pavlocic is a joke. orlando is scary tho
January 20th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Ian says:
jones
lol u must be outta your mind lebron had a better game please compare the players around both stars and come back to me.
“excuses are for losers” hahahahahaha sure thing like that game vs the spurs last week all u guys did was cry here.
fallinup
“big z doesnt make a diff” the f… u talkin about , i buy all that u guys are the deepest team but please dont say bs like Z doesnt make a diff when u guys says with bynum whos isnt as good u woulda won a chip. in fact take kobe and bron outta the game and the lakers win 110-25.
all the woulda seems pointless u say??? u r the one using it.
go read all that stuff jones posted and tell me if that isnt a bit outta his ass.
gee
your post is way better than all the other crazy laker fans they win one game vs a good team and they say ring for sure they lose to the spurs and magic and all of the sudden is no biggie is just one game. not all fans are like u lakeshow laballer and dizzle that actually make sense talking about kobe.
imo i think hes the third best player in the league he cant carry scrubs like the other 2 can kobe has gotten outta the first round ONCEEEEEE people. lebron got sweept sure in the finals where kobe has gotten the smackdown twice. so to end if we are basing this in one game is spurs vs orlando the finals?
January 20th, 2009 at 11:43 am
Ian says:
“Yes Kobe is still the best player in the world.. Sorry”
nahhh
January 20th, 2009 at 11:44 am
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
Grits does not taste good they are crap just like Jurg. Jurg I lay down guantlet challenge of you to play me in horse game! Yog will crush your spirits mr jurg
January 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
fallinup lol I won’t forget it and agree.
Ian I think the main thing we all have to remember is that the season still has a ways to go.
Between, injuries (trust me I know), trades, chemistry, and suspensions a lot can happen.
Spurs vs. Orlando would be good but I think Spurs have to much experience and honestly I think Orland won’t see finals this year. I could be wrong and I do like Howard so that would be cool.
Still I doubt they make it.
My President is Black!
January 20th, 2009 at 11:47 am
D.H. says:
@14 Austin
Fucking brilliant! I how I can’t wait to hear there long list of excuses again this year when the fakeshow cant pull the big one off.
Also somebody needs to bench Jamario Moon’s skinny ass! 2 bad fouls and a horrible shot at the end all while sporting that stupid grin of his. Colangelo better be careful or he’s gonna lose a certain someone in a couple years; Bosh looked downright pissed at the end of that game.
January 20th, 2009 at 11:54 am
Ian says:
gee
some of your fans bro will make u guys like the suns fans and thats as low as u can go.
still pick clev to make it to the finals and a rematch in the western conference finals.
just hope u get new orleans this year not the spurs that was way to much for me to take lol give us utah.
January 20th, 2009 at 11:56 am
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
Yog grits are so good, specially with some butter and salt playboi! WOOOO! You got to get em when they hot too! Seriously they will change your life!
January 20th, 2009 at 12:01 pm
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
Ian I so want my Rockets to have Utah. Payback is necessary.
I like watching LeBron in the playoffs but I rather watch a complete team in the finals.
Spurs should get Portland now that would be good!
January 20th, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Ian says:
gee
we want the suns in any round we love the sun we love amare we love their fans
January 20th, 2009 at 12:44 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Swept and getting the smackdown are two different things Ian, my friend.. Any athlete will tell you that..
Lets put it like this.. Take away Lebrons athleticism and he isnt NEARLY as effective.. His FG% would drop because he wouldnt be able to FORCE his way into the paint and naturally his PPG would drop because he wouldnt get the layups and power dunks, ok as much..
His defense?? thats nearly ALL athleticism.. those good 12-15 blocks from behind would be negated.. He doesnt leave his hands out as far as he should, doesnt challenge passes (when 1on1) and he gambles a wee bit too much..
For his size and strength he has no post game, for his “skills” he has no J.. He cant hit freebies as well as he should.. His three point shooting is streaky at best.. AND he beginning to buy into his own hype.. i can see it..
Now take away Kobe’s athleticism and u still have an elite player.. Lethal Jump shot, decent 3pt shooter, cluth FT shooter, good defense (Tim Duncan will tell you D is not about being athletic) and hes more clutch period and he has somewhat of a post game..
Sorry i like Skills not pure freakish athleticism.. Sorry dime for the long post.. had to give LBJ an IMO scouting report..
January 20th, 2009 at 1:01 pm
LAballer says:
wow thats what ive been saying for a minute to all my friends..lebron is like no other nba player ever made..his size and god given gifts far outweigh his skills and what he should be able to do..for that reason i dont buy into his hype..i think based on what he physically has been given, he should be a much better player..his “greatness” stems from his body type and physical attributes not his skills..the only reason he has any bball iq is cause he has been playing since he could walk..he was made solely for basketball..you guys ride his cock too much for what he SHOULD be able to do because of what he was given..imagine how good of a player he could be if he actually had the skills and killer instict MJ and kobe have..just my opinion..
another thing though..how come when he wins..the talk is about how good he is and makes his teammates and how he puts them on his back and wills them to victories but when he loses its cause his supporting cast is inadequate and isnt as good as other teams? and then you say laker fans make excuses? doesnt that sound like a huge excuse in itself..its a cop out..and ian i cant speak for every single laker fan or person who posts on here..but i dont remember making “excuses” for our loss to the spurs..its not an excuse when its a FACT..everything i stated actually happened in that game and we still only lost by 1..which is why i said spurs fans can have that victory..and lebron fans can have the mvp..none of that shit matters..we are taking the chip this year..simple and plain
January 20th, 2009 at 1:06 pm
A-Slam says:
let’s also not forget Kobe doesn’t have to rely on sheer athletism to escape a rape charge lmao
January 20th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
A-Slam says:
btw, LeBron relies on power and substance but is a good team mate. Kobe focuses on making the highlight play and clearly is finesse. Plus you talk about him being a good team mate? give me a fucking break he still has the mind of a rookie, complaining every fucking time he thinks he was fouled, let’s not forgot his little trade tantrum. Then BAM! welcome pau gasol, and whole different story. The fact is Kobe has and always will be a loser as long as he plays.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
doug says:
Kobe is still that dude, playing with 8 fingers, you guys are pointing at his shooting. He outplayed a healthy and younger Lebron. LeBron fans still don’t get it, Kobe is the standard right now and LeBron is still looking up. Stop with all the Kobe is on the best team and LeBron is the Best Player, Kobe has shown time and time again that he is the best player in the L, not just in head to head games with LeBron and he was going mono y mono with LeBron on defense and most of LeBrons points came when Kobe wasn’t gaurding him but besides that Kobe shut dude down. Stop making excuses you degenerate cleveland fans, you guys don’t have running water out there and your worried about being witnesses to LeHype, your priorities are all messed up.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:20 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
why take away his athletism he has it so why take it??? i dont get it.
baller
he could be better????? we are seein oscar robertson numbers
a slam
u r right the paul gasol trade has made kobe shut the fuck up and u know its gonna start if he doesnt win this year or the next lebron is by far the better teammate and plain and simple can do more.
u know what fuck this give me duncan
January 20th, 2009 at 1:21 pm
Ian says:
doug why u late to this kobe thing hehehe
how uve been?
January 20th, 2009 at 1:23 pm
that's whats up says:
damn Gee, you really got a mitsubishi?
You may be the first person I’ve ever come in contact with that owned up to having a mitsubishi.
Is it street legal? Can you get tags for it? lol. maybe they’re good cars, but that just caught me off guard…. slow day my way
January 20th, 2009 at 1:24 pm
doug says:
A-slam you need a therapist, your a real angry dude, was that girl in eagle colorado your sister? Wow. Your anger is making sound real foolish, Kobe has never been a loser all he does is win. Kobe complained about his team because he wanted to win and LA was happy he was doing that we got Pau went to the finals last year and now we have the best record in the L this year. Kobe is that dude, your that hater and stop it with all that good teammate stuff, none of the greats were considered good teammates and most of them actually got into physical altercations with players on there respective teams M.J got into with Kerr,Pippen etc. This is what competitive WINNERS do they want to win. Who cares about LeBron’s team liking him, look what it’s got him,playoff losses, and one finals appearance where they were embarassed by the spurs. You better hope this cat doesn’t see Kobe in the finals this year, Kobe is going to unleash on him, he should be healthy by that time.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
doug says:
I’ve been good Ian, I was watching the inauguration.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Ian says:
thats what up
ive never owned one but u guys dont like en over there in the usa????
unless its an suv usually the women have them here in dr (lancer)
January 20th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Ian says:
oh good reason to be late then hehe
January 20th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
LakeShow84 says:
ooooo fresh meat..
Im glad you had a second entry A-Slam because i was going ignore your 13 year old remark on the rape case thing.. Grow up doo it happened YEARS ago and it was a groupie who had 3 pairs of sperms in her lol she was a collector!
And in reponse to the soft ass “Kobe is a bad teammate” line.. WHO CAREs NEMORE?? Yes hes a bad teammate.. but its because he digs in your ass if you mess up.. is he perfect?? hell no but he demands perfection from everyone but also himself.. If your hardest worker is your best player then he has the right to demand shit.. PLus its grown ass men out there!! not babies.. A-Slam you probably one of those cats who broke down and cried when your pizza shop told you you couldnt run the oven huh??
And check last night homie.. Your Lebron was whining for fouls too.. That bump in the head from Ariza he tried to turn into a commercial?? please.. Lebron whines just as much as Kobe does for fouls.. only Lebron usually gets them..
And honestly that trade shit pissed me off too.. lol
But calling someone who has always been winner a loser takes away a lot of stripes A-Slam.. Nobody thought he could get LA back to this level without Shaq and here we are.. So he is, in all regard, a winner.. Thats probably his biggest problem..
January 20th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
doug says:
Yall LeBron is not the best player in the game if he’s not the best closer. To be the best you have to embody being the best player through three quarters and the greatest player with the game on the line and we know LeBron isn’t that guy.Kobe is the best player and the best with the game on the line. Lebron tried to go chest with a disabled Kobe, Kobe hitting fallaways over dude, falling out of bounds dropping buckets in his face. If kobe didn’t jack his finger that game could’ve been much uglier.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
A-Slam says:
whats with all this LeHype shit? he came out of highschool, averaged 20 ppg, improved his team, and won rookie of the year. And you guys are tellin me Kobe hasn’t been? Kobe is the most overrated player in the NBA. His rookie year he could barely get his immature ass off the bench. Clutch shooter my ass, i’d rather have the ball in Yinka Dare’s hands.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
A-Slam says:
@Lakeshow, your right, cept this time he needed pau gasol to get back to championship level lmao
January 20th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
Ian says:
im kinda with lakeshow on that i dont like kobe but we shouldnt keep bringin the rape shit up. the girl just tried to get money
January 20th, 2009 at 1:33 pm
doug says:
well put Lakeshow 84, A-slaim is talking out of his neck,Kobe a Loser?come on man, obviously a comment motivated by anger and not intelligence. If you think about all the major games played in the NBA as far as Christmas Day, MLK headers Kobe is always playing in them because people like watching him no matter how much they say they hate him, he’s entertaining.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
that's whats up says:
“im kinda with lakeshow on that i dont like kobe but we shouldnt keep bringin the rape shit up. the girl just tried to get money”
One of the posters on here once wrote a possible Kobe book title that had me rollin’ – “She Was All About It Until I Threw It In Her Ass Without Asking”
F.N. Classic
January 20th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Heckler says:
WoW!…lol…a yinka dare reference…lol
Dime…if ppl dont know…post yinka’s career stat line. hella funny
anyway…just wanted to post on the Cavs right quick. Doug Collins told us their weakness. Their frontline can’t shoot. Their bigs suck on offense and thus make it hard for them to get points down the stretch.
Danny Ferry needs to add a 4-man who can shoot and help them space the floor. Any combination of bigs out there without big z, they just suck on offense.
Danny ferry should look to adding a guy like charlie v or tim thomas. just to play the same role donyell marshall did for them the last few years.
at least when big z is out, you can put a shooter on the frontline with ben wallace or anderson; whomever is out there. but anderson and ben wallace together hurts their offense so much
January 20th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
A-Slam says:
haha he is loser though, i mean you could say he was a winner when he was getting a free ride from shaq. But since then he’s had no success in the playoffs. And if any of you say “well he got them back to the finals” ill just ask you again, who won game 6 again? cuz my mind is a little blank on that one i need some refreshing. Also what was Kobe’s field goal % that game?
January 20th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
doug says:
A-slam do you know who was on the Lakers team when Kobe was a rookie? Do you know who those cats were that he was backing up? Eddie Jones, Nick Van Exel, Shaquille Oneal those cats were all allstars that year and years previous ofcourse he wasn’t going to get playing time he was 17 years old behind an all-star starting line up and the Lakers were a historically winning franchise you don’t just hand the keys to the city over to a kid. Better yet can you tell me who the starting line-up for cleveland was when Lebron got drafted?…..Or here i’ll make it easy name one person on that team the year Bron was drafted?….Exactly LeBron got the keys to that crap city because they were a historically losing franchise and they had bums in the line up he didn’t have to fight all stars for playing time he was that dude given the green light soon as he got in the league and he was playing in his hometown. Who’s gassing this cat A-slam? This guy is an idiot!
January 20th, 2009 at 1:40 pm
A-Slam says:
@heckler, plus Yinka Dare died lmao
January 20th, 2009 at 1:41 pm
doug says:
Free ride from shaq? A-slam your a tool. Kobe and Shaq won those titles, just like MJ & Pippen did. You don’t get it man.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
A-Slam says:
@ doug, d-miles, desagana diop, ricky davis.
January 20th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
A-Slam says:
finals mvps. Shaq:3 Kobe:?
January 20th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Ian says:
u know doug that last post was good is like when fools tell me robinson won because of duncan
robinson and duncan won not one because of the other
January 20th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
jones says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_lTMyK90fCc
January 20th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Sorry A-slam
You have no more stripes SupaGooba.. Good Yinka Dare reference though lol Ignorance will never get under my skin.. And your talkin so much nonsense you can only be trying to get under someones skin..
And dont agree with me Ian.. Its weird lol
January 20th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
A-Slam says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mTCdvzsro-I
January 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Finals MVP
MJ:Too many. Pippen:??
January 20th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow lol sorry i promise ill try not 2 next time
January 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
jay says:
first off, i hope kobe is ok and the mri is negative…he always seems to get dinged up against the cavs…hope it aint serious…his kix last night were off the charts..i hope those drop..they are sick!
January 20th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
u know i enjoy hte kobe bashin aslam is doin but hehehe i cant bring up the denver girl and def he didnt ride coattails like fox george harper and those scrubs did.
January 20th, 2009 at 2:01 pm
Ian says:
this fuckin salad is nasty
January 20th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
dapro says:
Dime
Q Rich made his living in the paint in high school, college and his first few years in the pros
Nothing surprising about that……he fell in love with the 3 since his Phoenix days
January 20th, 2009 at 2:09 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
This is from last year from a scout
Now its 2008, the Western Conference finals. Bryant is finally where he wants to be: an MVP playing on his team, no behemoth Hall of Famer to get in the way of post-ups, within reach of a title. He is also, by almost all accounts, the best player in the league. “It’s not even close,” says one Western Conference scout. “The difference between him and LeBron [James] is like [the one between] a Maserati and a Volvo.”
So are you all sayin that the Volvo has caught up Maserati
January 20th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
This debate of Kobe and LBJ always comes up, first let me say that they are too totally different players with different styles. I like Kobe better, some like LBJ, I think Kobe is the better player with LBJ the better athlete.
Here is the closest estimate of them both and who they resemble the most, here a hint it aint MJ
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=KobeLeBron-090119
January 20th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Ian says:
hate
thats just an opinion
i bet i can find one sayin anyone is the best
January 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
GEE...My President is Black, and my Mitsubishi is gray says:
that’s whats up LOL
Yes I do have one and also a Sports Trac Explorer. The Mitsu is tight though.
Charcole 4 door with nice tint on the windows. Prolly bout 2 years old. Haven’t given me any trouble. Wife drives it more than me as I rather the truck.
Picture Magic, Jordan, Larry and Obama all ballin. So cool!
January 20th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
doug says:
Exactly A-slam d-miles, desagana diop, ricky davis. LeBron was not going to be eating pine for these cats sorry and if Kobe would have came into that same situation he would have been a starter too.
January 20th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
dapro says:
The debate between Lebron and Kobe is difficult to judge because thier style of play is completely opposite
Lebron is the better passer and a natural playmaker with scoring abilities
Kobe is the superior scorer with play making skills but it’s not his first instinct
January 20th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Lol right on Ian..
And i did actually agree with you earlier on this..
Give me Tim Duncan!
January 20th, 2009 at 2:29 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
I an, I agree it’s opinion, did you not read my last post.
January 20th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
Ian says:
drink
comon lol i prob didnt just your last line on the volvo thing hehehehehehe
lakeshow
too much agreein with a laker fan today damnnnnn
January 20th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
Kobe tell me to my ears that he is no longer Maserati he now is like broken down Kewet-City Jet
http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=kewet%20city%20jet&safe=active&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wi
While Lebron is like this POS Car
http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://vortex.accuweather.com/adc2004/pub/includes/columns/community/2007/AP071103026085.jpg&imgrefurl=http://www.accuweather.com/mt-news-blogs.asp%3Fblog%3Dweathermatrix%26partner%3D%26pgUrl%3D/mtweb/content/weathermatrix/archives/2007/11/int_photos_cars.asp&usg=__kZNk-5uxUiIZAqrRwkCb0t2JERQ=&h=348&w=512&sz=56&hl=en&start=3&um=1&tbnid=Xw8m7PEsSxDC3M:&tbnh=89&tbnw=131&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dcar%2Btrapped%2Bin%2Bice%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26safe%3Dactive%26sa%3DN
January 20th, 2009 at 2:43 pm
LAballer says:
“Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker … a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:” wtf kind of name is this? where are all these fools coming from?
January 20th, 2009 at 2:45 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
@ LABaller– I so agree with you… Where the F did that dude come from, I mean to say they both suck, he just doesn’t know bball.
January 20th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
control says:
Wow, there is some pretty reckless talk on here today.
Bottomline in the best player right now argument is this: We’ll know in a few months.
Any given day it could be LeBron or Kobe, with some days Tim Duncan grabs the mantle for a few. Chances are the championship is going to be won by Kobe or Lebron (with Dwight and Timmy maybe getting in on it), if one of those guys wins the championship then I think they have cemented their spot as top dog.
People saying the Cavs without LeBron is just as good as the Lakers without Kobe are on some pretty trippy shit. The Cavs are horrible outside of Mo “Jesus Dog” Williams. Lakers are pretty solid, even with Pau being softer than cotton candy (though he does look mean dunking on 6’7 guys).
January 20th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
Yog no say that “they suck”… Yog say that I not knowing I am visiting gay bath house dimemag.com) today where all commentors perform mouth action onto Kobe & LaBrowns greatness
January 20th, 2009 at 2:48 pm
control says:
Yog
Way to keep the hate on doug alive.
January 20th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
@ Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker … a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone)
You just need to bounce dude! Until you know something intelligent about basketball just leave dude
January 20th, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
I am knowing intelligently that you should be remove-ing Kobe mail member from your mouth. Drinking on my hater -aids.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
doug says:
LAballer that cat Yog is an idiot an he’s a bad representation of foreigners, he fulfills every stereotype anyone has ever had about foreigner. The choppy english and you haven’t seen anything yet last week this cat was making Vanilla Ice references and wanting me to update him on slanguage used in the 19th century. This cat is an idiot his out dated refrences and poor use of the language were a dead give away that this cat wasn’t from the state. He took my english coaching personally and renamed his blog name to include me in it. He doesn’t talk basketball, he’s looking to bait an innocent dime blogger into a tutorial on the English Language.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
control says:
Anyone know why Glenn “Big Fat Baby” Davis is still in the league? He’s listed at 6’9 but there’s no way he’s over 6’5, he’s listed at 280lbs but it looks like he’s pushin at least 320lbs. He looked so out of shape against the Suns that when he was shooting foul shots he had to tell the ref to hold the ball so he could fuck around with some wrist thing and catch a breather. He looked like he was going to die. Also, him being a “big guy”, there’s no way he should be shooting 35% from the field for the season…I guess that would be cause he can’t dunk, but come on, that might be worst in the league.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:05 pm
doug says:
Yog we’re talking basketball stop trying to side track us because you can’t scrounge up enough franks, denari, shillings, pounds or whatever the hell you guys use out there to buy a rossetta stone course in english. Soliciting and baiting cats that are blogging about basketball in hopes of getting a free English lesson just isn’t the way. Now, go grow on something else you fungus.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
doug says:
Yeah I tend to agree with you control it’s only a matter of time before that cat clutches his heart at center court in the middle of a game and falls down eclipsing the celtic leprachaun logo. He’s a couple of potatoe wedges away from minor heart infarction.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
Dougs… my naming name (required) after you is beescause you always use “cat”… it is homage to yous and your lacking of desiferables english typing and the fact that you are a puss-eee. Im’s a perfect typer of enlglish (just like yous).
January 20th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
So fars there are 8 uses of word “cat” throughout smacks. This word became unpopulars after 1970′s (which was in 20th century douche doug)
January 20th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
And my friend named you New Tyrones… Old Tyrones 2.0 worse and more badder
January 20th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
doug says:
“lacking of desiferables english”LMAO. I’m going to use this in one of my business meetings as an icebreaker it’s gauranteed to get the crowd in an uproar thanks YOG your illiteracy and poor use of the English once again has me doubled over in laughter at my desk.One word….Fantastic.LMAO.
January 20th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Yog friend of Jurg aka Doug no jobb worker ... a man acting like womens (NEW Tyrone) says:
Yog says:
You have job? I thought you were no job haver?
I know you are certainlys a jobber
January 20th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
doug says:
“I thought you were no job haver”LMAO NO JURGOFF I’m actually what you might call a “job haver”
January 20th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
doug says:
“I thought you were no job haver”LMAO NO JURGOFF I’m actually what you might call a “job haver”
I’m LMFAO
January 20th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
the cynic says:
how can Lebron be considered the best player in the league when he has no jumper. At the end of every game or quarter or half Lebron tries to act like he’s Kobe and drop fade aways with guys all over him. Lebron jumper is ugly as hell(chuck hayes foul shot ugly), if the cavs want a jump shot to close games they should make Mo Williams the number one option. I trust Duncan to drain a 18 ft jumper to win the game more then lebron.
January 20th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
A-Slam says:
you dont need a jumper to be a great player, if anything i admire a player who doesn’t settle for the shot, grows a pair, and takes it to the basket like a man.
January 20th, 2009 at 4:08 pm
LAballer says:
yeah but when thats the only thing he can do cause he hasnt been able to develop a jumper and relies on solely on his god given gifts instead of adding some skill to his game and branching out and being able to do more with his game..then thats not “taking it to the basket like a man”..thats doing the only u can do to score..there is a difference..
January 20th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
LakeShow84 says:
If you play on the wing and/or any guard spots you need a jumper A-slam you dip..
He isnt playing center and he doesnt play enough of PF to have any excuses for ALWAYS having his elbow out.. Jumper is uuuuugggggllllyyyy..
January 20th, 2009 at 4:14 pm
LakeShow84 says:
And i would take Duncan over Lebron for a clutch 18footer in a heart beat!
And if Lebron fans say otherwise go take a nap with the life sized cut out you foos got.. Tim Duncan is a perfect example of clutch.. His game is in the post but i have never seen a Big Man (well Hakeem) hit some clutch ass shots from the perimieter like he has..
Clutch is not thinking about what your limits are but just putting the ball in the hole when it needs to be there.. When the game is on the line you can tell Lebrons main goal is to head to the rack NO MATTER WHAT..
If you guys are real Lebron fans send him a BetterBasketball tape!
January 20th, 2009 at 4:16 pm
fallinup says:
LOL @ Take it to the basket like a man.
More like dive into the air initiating contact to have the refs bail you out with a foul call. That’s all I saw last night.
January 20th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
fallinup says:
… for the most part. Bron was getting away with that crap last night either.
January 20th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
fallinup says:
** wasn’t getting away
January 20th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
Bron42 aka Ownin people so bad on the court they might bring slavery back says:
did he seriously say u dont need a jumpshot? Arguing is one thing…making comments that go completely against basketball logic is another lol
the fact that lebron can’t shoot was a big part last night cuz while kobe was hittin him with MJ fadeaways and runners, lebron couldn’t answer unless he bullied his way to the basket, which people started stripping in the forth. And ya, people wonder why no big name guys wanna play with lebron..why would u want to when if you win a game he gets all the praise and if you lose a game your the one gettin he blaim with all this “his teammates aren’t good enough stuff” I mean come on, the dude said “a lebron james team is never nervous” didn’t a lebron james team get swept in the playoffs? PEople need to stop ridin dudes jocks like their invinsible and admit they have flaws. Is lebron prolly the best overall athlete in the nba? yea…is his overall game ANYWHERE close to kobeS? please. Game is on the line, lebron is passing, game is on the line kobe wants it in his hand. Its like that movie the replacements “winners always want the ball”
January 20th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
K Dizzle says:
good read till it got ridiculous near the end
for example :
“you dont need a jumper to be a great player, if anything i admire a player who doesn’t settle for the shot, grows a pair, and takes it to the basket like a man.”
There should be an award for stupidest statement ever posted. What’s preventin Lebron from being the best….consistent jumper. See how long the career lasts if you can’t pull up…
Anyways, good games last night. Clutchness from CP3, Dirk, and JJ. Kobe vs Lebron didn’t live up to the hype, but I’m glad my Lakers won. What did the game tell us?
Kobe’s the toughest dude in the league..Dislocates ring finger on shootin hand to go with torn pinkie, tapes it up, and comes thru with 12 assists in a win. That’s it.
Some of you dudes need to understand, and I gotta say this:
You don’t need to rip Kobe to build up Lebron or vice versa. On any given day, one is the best in the world. Yesterday, for instance, they weren’t. Give it to CP3, JJ, Oden, Dirk…..for yesterday
I’m out
January 20th, 2009 at 5:52 pm
doug says:
A-slam has nothing to do with growing a pair, you get older in the league and you get wiser and realize if you keep going to the hole and taking poundings like that your career will be riddled by injury and short lived you have to be able to mix it up with a jumper every now and than that’s why Kobe developed one and D.WADE is developing one now too.
January 20th, 2009 at 5:58 pm
doug says:
You don’t need to rip Kobe to build up Lebron or vice versa. Well said K.Dizzle cats got it confussed can’t appreciate each for what they do.
January 20th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
A-Slam says:
i stick with my statement, ‘Bron has already accomplished way more in his young career than Kobe has in his entire career. You can say all you want, that I just flat-out hate Kobe and there’s no doubt he’s one of greatest players ever to play. But I believe by the time both are retired LeBron will be seen as having a way better career than Kobe.
January 20th, 2009 at 6:13 pm
A-Slam says:
Btw Yinka Dare could drop 81 on the raps if he had smush parker and devean george as teammates lmao
January 20th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
the cynic says:
How come no one is complaining about Lebron flopping twice when Ariza jacked him. Ariza doesn’t even touch him and Lebron falls to the ground for 15 seconds crying, pretending he got hit in the eye. At least when guys like Manu and Fisher flop they take some kind of shot taking the charge
January 20th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
ab_40 says:
amare pathetic damn sitting in the game with a sort of grin when his stat line was THREE points and ONE rebound? maybe he needs steph to light him up again. oh wait…
Greg Oden 24 and 15 way to go big fella. he still moves like 400 pound shaq but he’ll get there. He’s gonna take over next season, trust me.
man indy nawlins was nice the finish was top notch. granger being the all star that he is being clutch then cp3 showing why he’s still an mvp candidate hitting that buzzer beater.
toronto? DAMN at least bargiani is showing he belongs
January 20th, 2009 at 6:23 pm
the cynic says:
@A-Slam
Yinka Dare would only score 81 because he had like zero career assist and couldn’t pass. Who wins a three point shoot out Rondo or Lebron?
January 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
A-Slam says:
LeBron, as unfundamental as his jumpshot is rondo’s is like watching a bloated cat full of maggots that bursts
January 20th, 2009 at 6:25 pm
doug says:
A-slam you and Jurg must hang out, what you say is supported by your sheer hatred for kobe and your hatred is motivated by your ignorance. The mere fact that you use Kobe’s career as a measuring stick for greatness pretty much proves his greatness, D.Wade,Bron, Melo are all chasing Kobe. He’s the only one has drawn legitimate comparisons to MJ from players,coaches and all-time greats(MJ,Magic,Larry Bird,Clyde Drexler, Isaiah Thomas all these cats have went on record saying Kobe is the closest thing to MJ since his leaving even MJ himself, not LeBron, Kobe) These aren’t crazed fans like you or I, these are cats that played at the highest level, the mount rushmores of basketball for lack of a better term. So your dealing with an iternal struggle regarding your ability to embrace Kobe’s greatness. I recognize LeBron as good but I say he has a ways to go before you really can mention him in the same breath as Kobe or MJ, and the Greats of The Game apparently feel the same way, otherwise they would be saying Bron was the greatest player since MJ left not Kobe. Since Kobe came in the league he’s only been compared to MJ, others before Kobe have been compared to MJ(Harold Miner,G.HILL, Penny Hardaway) but none have withstood the test of time like Kobe.Fall Back hater
January 20th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
A-Slam says:
haha you always say im a hater, it’s just a fact though, all those great names u have mentioned were great for winning championships with prolific performances. Kobe has yet to do that HIMSELF, I mean yeah he scores a shitload but the fact is he doesn’t win rings when he does it. take this for example, the lakers are below .500 when Kobe scores 30 or more. And then he fizzles in the playoffs
January 20th, 2009 at 6:36 pm
the cynic says:
“LeBron, as unfundamental as his jumpshot is rondo’s is like watching a bloated cat full of maggots that bursts”
lol, too true
January 20th, 2009 at 7:27 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
So A Slam you say Bron has accomplished more than Kobe, How many rings does Lebron have? Silence…
January 20th, 2009 at 7:37 pm
A-Slam says:
how many rings does kobe have without shaq’s shadow being cast over him?… silence
January 20th, 2009 at 8:00 pm
Jugs says:
hey hey big jugs back from work very tiring
just want to say hey hey to austin and friends good smack today yes yes
true jugs dont lie
Jugs
January 20th, 2009 at 8:22 pm
that's whats up says:
160th!!!
The best thing about today is George Bush’s dumb, ignant ass ain’t gonna have too many more chances to fuck up America
January 20th, 2009 at 8:23 pm
that's whats up says:
….and that’s whats up……
January 20th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
A-Slam says:
@ thats whats up.. fuck that bush was the man! lmao jk as if i havent made enough enemies on this blog
January 20th, 2009 at 11:23 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Lol A-Slam
Your like talking to a smart 16 year old.. You know it all dontcha..
“how many rings does kobe have without shaq’s shadow being cast over him?… silence”
That has got to be the dumbest shit.. well besides the whole you dont need a jump shot to be a great WING player lol.. You got 2 infamous quotes i will forever associate with your ignorance my friend.. congrats..
So basically Shaq would’ve won ALL those rings with say Eddie Jones??
rrrriiiiigggghhhhhttttttt..
January 20th, 2009 at 11:42 pm
A-Slam says:
haha well if eddie jones was still around when phil jackson coached then yes i think so
January 20th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
A-Slam says:
and your makin it sound like i said you can be a great wing player with virtually no jumpshot, i simply meant u can be a great wing player with an inconsistent one dont take it so literal man.
January 21st, 2009 at 1:14 am
Powerslave says:
From the LA Times:
“The injury to Kobe Bryant has been revealed. After studying the footage, one can see LeBron’s hand morph into a crab claw and pinch Kobe’s finger.”
January 21st, 2009 at 1:15 am
Powerslave says:
Also, it’s deeply ironic that he injured his ring finger. The ring symbolizing the woman he cheated on.