Smack / Jan 26, 2009 / 7:32 am

Jordan Rules

Kobe BryantKobe Bryant (photo. Chris Sembrot)

Remember when the biggest story surrounding Jordan Farmar was the time he played in a D-League game and a Lakers game in the same day? That seemed forever ago — yet somehow, Darren Collison, his backup at UCLA, is still in college — and now Farmar is a legit contributor and an X-factor who could make a difference in L.A. winning a ‘chip this year. Having missed about a month following knee surgery, Farmar came back yesterday and scored 14 points off the bench in the Lakers’ blowout win over the Spurs, and cracked the highlight reel when he found Trevor Ariza with a lob from midcourt. “We missed [Farmar] a lot,” Kobe said in the post-game. “He makes our second unit go. He’s the motor. Now that he’s back, everybody falls into their natural positions and we’re back clicking on all cylinders.” About the only person who really suffers here is Sun Yue, whose PT drops from the occasional 30 seconds a night to nothing … The game was essentially over by the end of the third quarter, and all of L.A.’s starters (sans Pau Gasol) sat out the entire fourth quarter. Blame the San Antonio defense: Too often they were running under the high screen instead of fighting to get over it, giving up wide-open jumpers left and right as Gregg Popovich gradually lost his mind. Kobe (22 pts) ended up with some shots that he might as well have taken in an empty gym, and one time Derek Fisher had like 15 feet of free reign to knock one down. You can get away with that against guys like Rajon Rondo or Derrick Rose, but Kobe and Fish will kill you all day with that much space … Andrew Bynum‘s 15-point, 11-board, 4-block line was solid, especially considering he only played 24 minutes. (You don’t think Portland would be more than happy if Greg Oden put up those numbers in 40 minutes a night?) Offensively, Bynum seems to be getting better every day since his breakout 42-point explosion against the Clippers. His confidence is sky-high right now … Yao (knee) sat out yesterday’s game in Detroit, meaning it was time for T-Mac and Ron Artest to get back on the court. Houston was smashing the Pistons in the first quarter, let them get back into it, pulled away again in the second half, then gave up the big lead again near the end. Eventually it came down to the Pistons being down three with eight seconds to go: Rasheed got a good look from his favorite spot straightaway, bricked, then Arron Afflalo — who Michael Curry had in the game after benching Allen Iverson for almost all of the fourth quarter — missed another three at the buzzer … Artest (24 pts, 9 rebs) is hilarious. One time after an and-one, he stood in front of the Detroit crowd flexing and grinning ’cause he knows they still hate him. Although when you think about it, Ron-Ron destroying that ’04-05 Pacers team cleared the way for the Pistons to make the Finals that year … Rip Hamilton had one of his best games in a while, dropping 27 points off the bench on 11-of-21 shooting. He and A.I. connected on some buckets, but overall they just don’t vibe together on the court. When Rip plays he’s still the focal point of the Pistons offense, which leads to Iverson being more observer than attacker … Speaking of guys not looking like themselves, T-Mac (15 pts) has hit the stage in his career where he’s like the old dude in a pickup game who you can tell used to be nasty, he just doesn’t have his legs anymore. He moves two gears slower than all the young guys, he can’t really get to the hoop anymore, and he doesn’t even try. He relies on screens and craftiness to get his shots, but is still a threat because he can still shoot and pass. Not saying McGrady couldn’t still contribute to a deep Rockets playoff run, but he may have seen his last All-Star Game. (And remember, HE’S ONLY 29!) …

Kevin LoveKevin Love (photo. Sasha Nialla)

We’ve got to find a way to get Al Jefferson on the All-Star squad. He was a beast against Chicago, dropping 39 points mostly on Joakim Noah. Big Al tipped in his own miss with 24 seconds left in the fourth quarter to force overtime, and in the extra frame, he hit the go-ahead bucket on a hook over Noah. Joakim did record seven blocks for the game, and quite a few of them were on Jefferson. But on the two possessions that mattered most, he couldn’t contain Al … Minnesota was getting ready for a free throw when Andres Nocioni took his place on the block closest to the rim. For some reason, Vinny Del Negro started yelling at Noce about where he was standing (or something), and Noce yelled right back — and because it was so quiet in the Target Center, you could almost hear their entire conversation. Next time down the court, Nocioni immediately called for the ball and dropped a three-pointer, like he was telling Del Negro to STFU. Even the Wolves announcer called it an “angry three” … As good as Kevin Love has been, we haven’t seen too many of those famous outlet passes. But yesterday Love (19 pts, 15 rebs) got one where he cleared a defensive rebound, turned his body in mid-air, and before his second foot even hit the ground, fired a two-hand bullet to Rodney Carney well beyond halfcourt, who caught it right in stride and finished with a dunk. Dickie V would have passed out had he been there … Did you see what Josh Smith did to Steve Nash? Imagine Kobe’s “You stole my MVP!!” cram on Nash in the ’06 playoffs mixed with Ricky Davis‘ “OH SH*T!!” dunk in Cleveland and you get the idea … Conventional NBA wisdom should have told you the Mavs would get cracked in Boston. Last game of a week-long road trip, early afternoon tip-off, against a team that had won seven straight and was stomping everyone in the process? Please. KG, Ray Allen (4 threes) and Eddie House (7 threes) each scored 23 points in the 24-piecing. Throw in the fact that Dirk didn’t show up — he went 4-for-17 and threw one pass that was intended for Antoine Wright, only Wright wouldn’t have been able to catch it if he were standing on Manute Bol‘s shoulders — and Dallas never had a chance … Other notable stat lines from Sunday: Chris Bosh scored 31 in a win over the Kings; Danny Granger scored 27 in a win over Charlotte; DeAndre Jordan pulled down 20 rebounds in a loss to Golden State; and Nene put up 28 points on 12-for-12 FG’s in a win over Utah … BTW, was Carmelo rocking a Burberry jacket on the bench, or did he swipe somebody’s picnic mat? … As if we needed another reason NOT to watch the Bucks, Michael Redd tore his ACL and MCL and is out for the year. This also sucks for the Cavs, if in fact they were still thinking of trading for Redd at the deadline, and sucks for Richard Jefferson. Now everyone will learn that he seriously cannot be a #1 option … We’re out like whichever one of the Rockets draws the short straw …

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106 Responses to “Jordan Rules”

  1. mavs all the way says:

    alright alright… mavs were a little bit tired. well, tired. we’ll see them in the finals.

    yao rested because it’s the chinese new year. like what he did for the olympics…
    so sorry for tmac. maybe there’s a curse in houston? first it was steve francis, now it’s tmac, then yao, then ronron, then…

    kevin love all nba rookie team

  2. rangerjohn says:

    ok so where are all the lakers fans to tell us how bad the spurs suck and how great the kobes are?

    all i can say, refs where a factor, considering the team that fouls the least amount in the league is the spurs yet they put LA on the line twice as many times as they went?

    and the defense the lakers put out there was not exactly good, for every open shot kobe had manu had 2, for every open shot kobe and fisher had bonner and mason had 3. the spurs where just not hitting. there was not more then about 10 possesion in the entire game that either team played good defense.

    now im out to the office, but i will check back in later when crazy lakers fan shows up later after they wake up.

  3. iannyb says:

    Go Lakers kudos Bynum you’re shaping up just fine Welcome back Farmar.Lakers looking good right now,no slowing down now

  4. Ace-one says:

    Erm, no. We know you guys love Paul Pierce and all, but he didn’t score 23 points (along with Ray and House). That was KG. Should try to get your facts right; otherwise it looks like you don’t watch the games. Heh.

  5. AB_40 says:

    at one point it looked like pop was going to pop finley in the mouth haha. he had a terrible rotation where he got stuck and fell over odom? it ended in an open 3. the rotation wasn’t there for SA and they need an athletic big austin croshere isn’t it.

    poor dallas 74 – 47 at HALFTIME wow

    the other games were kinda boring.

    thursday CAVS MAGIC. I hope big Z will be back.

    orlando is a jump shooting team and that’s their biggest forte is’nt dwight howard this is why they won’t win a title

  6. penske1 says:

    Wow, someone’s a little defensive about their Spurs…

    Farmar’s return was pretty incredible, considering how many guys fall off after surgery.

    I just felt bad for Dallas yesterday. Anyone see Dampier get up for that dunk? Not that he really had to jump very high, but still…

  7. fallinup (Black Dynamite = Best Movie Evar!) says:

    When Tim Duncan is yelling at you during the game…you’re not doing it right. I’m looking at you, Bonner.

    Lakers were running, and the Spurs were playing like shit. Aside from the big 3, no one could hit an open jumper to save their lives. As dime said, the Spurs defense was horrible.

  8. Skip says:

    That thing with the Rockets is extremely weird. When was the last time they were on the court together? By the way, is Francis ever going to play for the Grizzlies?

  9. mavs all the way says:

    stevie franchise still on the roster. and he’s wearing #23! i hope he plays. they gave a chance to dmiles why not him right?

  10. GEE..."Square Dance Rap" says:

    Houston Up!

    YOUNG HOLLA AT ME!

    I know that cat supposedly in Vegas and all, but somewhere he knows GEE’s squad got his!

    Ugly as the win was, it was still a win. I am thinking the next 1 or 2 games you will actually have a rare appearance from all 3 stars for the Rockets in the game at the SAME TIME!

    DIME that is true about Tracy, still he pulled enough in him to make that game saving drive on Prince. Not to mention Prince had blocked his shot on the previous play. Like I said, he ain’t done. Still tryna Noah these cats.

    I am thinking LA barely lost in San An and at home with Farmer back that whoop the stinkin socks off the Spurs. Perhaps that series wouldn’t be as competitive as I thought. I agree too that the 42 point game was an awakening for Bynum as to how much he possibly can do.

    Utah has lost like 2 straight right. That is always good.

    Thought the Mavs would match up better. Guess not.

    That Eddie House gets on my nerves. Him and Matt Barnes.

    What teams lets NeNe go perfect? Wow.

    Kobe is that dude!

  11. JA says:

    “He relies on screens and craftiness to get his shots, but is still a threat because he can still shoot and pass.”

    When could T-Mac EVER shoot?!? 39% this year, and a career 43% shooter.

  12. Alex "Robocop" Murphy says:

    Don’t you remember the 13pt barrage that happened against the Spurs a couple years ago. T-Mac lead the league in scoring too.

  13. Spliff 2 My Lou says:

    Let me start off by saying I’m not a Lakers fan per se but being from the west I do cheer for them against everyone but the Bulls. Also Ive always respected the Spurs and aside for the constant whiny faces, I think they are one of the classiest organizations in the League.

    With that being said I can’t believe the excuses that some of the Spurs fans come up with on this site. They complain more than the Spurs themselves. Who would’ve thought a teams fan base could flop more than the actual team they’re rooting for?

    Anyway, Spurs vs. Lakers come playoff time is going to be one hell of a series. Homecourt advantage is going to very important. I think whoever has it will be victorious.

  14. jzsmoove says:

    @ post 4…it did say KG, Ray and House scored 23 points apiece… no mention of Pierce.

  15. GEE..."Square Dance Rap" says:

    62 points vs. the Wizards!

  16. the_don_mega says:

    “He moves two gears slower than all the young guys, he can’t really get to the hoop anymore, and he doesn’t even try. He relies on screens and craftiness to get his shots, but is still a threat because he can still shoot and pass.”

    - i guess Bron should really focus next summer on adjusting his game a lil bit… he could learn from T-Mac here… once those explosive legs leave you, you’d still have a game left in you…

    - random question ya’ll… on all of today’s athletic ballers in the L… who would still have a semblance of their game once their legs give out?

  17. that's whats up says:

    @ post 16
    shooters would….Ray Allen, Michael Redd…guys like that

  18. ip says:

    not too sure why people always harp on nash getting crammed on. 99 percent of the readers here wouldn’t even have the guts to try to take the charge as he did; they’d just step out of the way.

  19. E$ says:

    1-3 ain’t bad for Tx teams on sunday, as long as the one is my Rockets!~

  20. Taj says:

    Anybody see Poppovich’s patch on his head after “minor surgery”?

    Looks like what ever they did allowed him to speak in complete sentences to sideline reporters and not be such a d – bag!

  21. itsakademiks says:

    watching tmac was kind of sad just considering where he was not even 2 years ago ya know. like son had trouble turning the corner on whoever was guarding him i just kept looking for him to explode to the basket.

  22. GEE..."Square Dance Rap" says:

    ip says:

    not too sure why people always harp on nash getting crammed on. 99 percent of the readers here wouldn’t even have the guts to try to take the charge as he did; they’d just step out of the way.

    ip I take it you would be of the 1 percent who would. LOL. Again there is nothing wrong with stepping out the way if it’s not a game changing point, rather than risk giving up momentum and embarrasment.

    You got to know when to say when pimpin.

  23. that's whats up says:

    yeah Taj, but maybe it also made it that Gregg Patchavich forgot how to coach defense.

    Spurs need to make a move

  24. mavs all the way says:

    yeah, count me in as one of those who wont take the charge. i’m like bynum you know, not gonna get dunked on!

  25. Kudabeen says:

    All the jokes on Eddy Curry and no mention of his 3 year old having to witness the murder of his mother and sister? This guy needs a friend and some security in his life. Robed at gun point in his home, injured, accused of soliciting sex from a male driver, attempted extortion, baby mother killed with infant and his 3 year old son witnessed it!! That is a lot to go through…

  26. mavs all the way says:

    spurs need a move? i heard they are looking to trade for brad miller wheeler. not bad huh?

  27. Mister Sun says:

    It’s not a good idea to take a charge against a dunker because refs in the nba dont call it if it is spectacular.
    just look at kobe on nash, obvious charge.

    @ rangerjohn

    please say it one time: your team got blown out and the other team was just better. you critcize the lakers fans for searching for excuses and you do it even worse.
    and about your “stat” that the lakers shot so many free throws against the team with the fewest fouls: are you serious?
    so you mean the spurs opponents should always shoot less free throws because of this stat? come on now.
    everybody on here knows you are an ignorant and blind spurs homer almost as bad as youngfed, so they dont even react to you anymore. but reading that was just.. wow

  28. Sanpitch says:

    Watching the Lakers Spurs game yesterday, AB is a good defender and has that hook shot from the middle of the key that is unstoppable but that’s about it. when his back is to the hoop, he’s good. when he faces up he’s not. his interior d is great.

    when duncan brought away from the hoop he was exposed.

    at one time duncan shot his patented 15′ bank shot from an angle. mark jackson said, “that’s the kind of shot you want duncan taking.” what!! really!!?? isn’t that duncan’s patented shot? isn’t that the shot duncan is known for? why do you want him taking “his” shot? that had to be the quote of the day yesterday.

    bynum is not going to be a huge offensive threat. he should watch marcus camby and try to pattern his career after him. bynum is a good defender with a big body.

    why is jordan farmar not starting over fisher?

    in the nuggets/jazz game got to love the closeup they did on k-mart giving the shocker. i am sure they thought it was some play, when he was just telling the lady in the 3rd row what was up.

  29. Ian says:

    ranger
    comon relax its like i said about the spurs win vs the lakers its just one game neither team cares well at least i dont.
    good thing that the lakers fans that said one game doesnt mean anything arent here posting bs about one game lol.

    pop shoulda slapped finley

  30. itsakademiks says:

    sanpitch you buggin bynum’s footwork is phenomenal son gonna be a 25 and 10 guy enough.

  31. LAballer says:

    LOL @ rangerjohn..you’re just silly right now dude..i dont think you have any cred left on this site with the obscenely bogus shit you say..they really should sign you so you can whine for them like they do when calls dont go their way..maybe a ref or two might listen to u..duncan needs to get rid of that wide eyed stare EVERY time they call a foul on him..when the lakers lost im pretty certain every normal nba fan, not even lakers fans, agreed the last couple calls were pretty um..retarded? here tho..they shoot more foul shots so its the ref that gave the game away right? nah player..they just didnt have it..you’re cute lil mason jr couldnt hit a shot if they poured it for him in a glass..actually none of them could..the defense wasnt great on the lakers end but their were definite flashes of how good they could be when they scramble and play d..farmar coming back finally lets fish rest a bit..poor guy needed it badly..while bynum didnt beast duncan with the stats..he played him very well and got key rebounds and blocks..thats exactly what we need from him..i can already taste the alcohol im going to be consuming in large amounts when we rock the shit outta the parade! yeah yeah one game..i know..dont worry tho..the playoffs will be a victory one game at a time too..ha

  32. Sanpitch says:

    thoughts and prayers with eddy curry and his lil’ boy. dude can’t catch a break right now.

    as much as i love all the eddy curry comments, the dude deserves a moment of silence.

  33. Mamba says:

    Not gonna thump my chest to hard,

    But LA owned yesterday – how Kobe is doing this with 2 broken digits is just amazing – Dude has heart for miles,

    But Boston is coming

  34. doug says:

    what’s up Ian? Ranger John your an idiot and LABaller your right this cat has no credibility anymore. It was just one game and some get back for the Lakers, nothing more.

  35. Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:

    @ Rangerjohn

    “all i can say, refs where a factor, considering the team that fouls the least amount in the league is the spurs yet they put LA on the line twice as many times as they went”?

    talk about excuses for a loss. Plain and simple the Lakers out played, out hustled the spurs.

  36. doug says:

    Kobe is dropping buckets with 3 fingers on his dominant hand, I don’t know how he does it.

  37. Sanpitch says:

    bynum has definitely been listening to kareem, with that hook from the middle of the key. that is unstoppable.

    but what is going to happen when he gets double teamed? his footwork isn’t “phenomenal”, but it is good.

    what’s up with “the machine” thumping everyone’s chest before the tipoff?

    when he was thumping kobe’s chest and the camera man was right there, i felt very awkward.

  38. Ian says:

    doug
    im doing good bro, good win yesterday no excuses it was a blowout even if i tried i couldnt come up with one lol. didnt watch the game sunday is beach day hehehe but apperently the game wasnt as good as the first one.
    btw hope the brad miller rumor is true we need a big body that Ian M. was supposed to be this year.

    laballer
    comon u know thats duncans look lol he aint gettin rid of that i dont mind it unless u r a scrub doing that shit.

  39. Ian says:

    the machine has to be the the dumbest nicks in the history of the nba. didnt he give the name to himself????

  40. LAballer says:

    lol its just a funny look..like sometimes i almost believe him he looks so damn innocent..but then i look at his jersey and realize there is no way im about to feel sorry for dude..

  41. justice says:

    I hope A.I keeps his mouth shut after being benched and they lose…

  42. doug says:

    yeah he gave himself that name, vujacich is a hype and he’s definitely the most annoying player on the team. Yeah you guys beach murder our beach. You stay out in the DR right? Lucky dude man.

  43. Ian says:

    laballer lol so it yours biased hate hahahaha if he had on a laker jersey oh would be “oh its ok maybe he didnt hit him”

    maybe that why i dont mind it the biased love

    the one i dont like is when bowen (love the dude btw) acts all innocent and throws up his hands like i didnt do anything and there are broker bones and blood all over the court (ask wally)

  44. Ian says:

    doug thats why i cant leave i get home sick fasttt my trips to the states usually are for less than 2 weeks even for work. yeah i cant complain about the beaches and weather here i dont do snow.

  45. LakeShow84 says:

    LOL RangerJohn LOL..

    And the Tmac thing is extremely sad.. I got all his jerseys and i even wear the Orlando Magic Jersey when i run em.. I think he should take a year (i know i know) and get himself back together and then make another run.. He even admitted before the year started he was going to fall apart so cant say he didnt let us know what the year was going to look like..

    And all i have to say about that spurs game is what i said earlier about the Spurs winning by 1 AT HOME.. If Spurs fans want to take a one point last minute assisted win and run they mouths on it THATS FINE we saw what was hattenin yesterday..

    And the better AB looks the more distance we put between ourselves and the next best team.. That offensive rebound he yanked from Timmy and yakkd was plain nasty.. Where are the Bynum haters at now?? You guys better get yo shit talkin in this year because our boy is turning into a BEAST.. The only problem is he doesnt have to do much because we are so deep.. I just hope he doesnt get complacent and continues to grow..

    i hate to be the one getting ahead of myself but anyone else smell 70 wins next year??

  46. doug says:

    Man i’m trying to get out to DR a couple more time in my lifetime. Yeah I can’t do the snow either.

  47. Ian says:

    no lakeshow we cant smell them but good luck on that

  48. mules says:

    Yo Dime…any word on who won that X-box last week?…I could use an upgrade from my ps2

  49. Ian says:

    just let me know when but no fightin here (u prob wont cuz all my friends are laker fans lol)

  50. Mister Sun says:

    you guys are lakers fans and act so smart about your team and dont know that vujacic DIDN’T give himself the nickname? lmao

  51. LAballer says:

    oh yeah we suck as fans because we dont know where his retarded name came from..i think its more of a we dont care type thing lol..hes one of those guys thats like a lil brother that does and says really stupid shit but since its ur lil bro u let him be..yeah thats the machine haha..

  52. LakeShow84 says:

    Yeah fellas..

    Our play by play announcer gave Vujacic the nickname.. i think Sasha would get laughed out the gym if tried to give himself a nickname..

  53. LakeShow84 says:

    I know you cant smell it Ian because your team has NEVER even been close..

    NEVER..

    Ever..

    eva eva eva eva been close..

  54. Ian says:

    laballer at least u admit its retarded hehehehe

  55. LAballer says:

    ian
    yeah if he was a laker id obviously love the look..i mean i even tolerate our machine haha…

    about bowen..he is the guy that you love if hes on ur squad but everyone else hates cause of the shit he pulls..i do think he plays dirty tho..i cant respect that..he has had a few run ins where he looked like he tried to injure a guy and im just not cool with that shit..

  56. Ian says:

    relax lakeshow i was messing with u and u can 82 if u want who cares really if u dont win the ring ask the patriots.

    il take my 50 plus wins we usually get and raise another banner u cant take your 70 an noting my man.

    now ill ask u. u can smell it like u said but when have u ever been close before in your lifetime that u recognize the smell????? please stop overratin bynum my man it my blowup in your face

  57. doug says:

    it’s all good when I went to the DR they treated my like family. A lot of people thought I was from there. Respect. I talked basketball with alot of cats while I was down there and there were a lot of Kobe fans but everybody was talking baseball. They’re real loyal to there folks. They kept talking Pujols,Manny Ramirez, David Ortiz but they pretty much disowned Alex Rodriguez. Real passionate baseball fans.

  58. Ian says:

    laballer
    i love the dude but because he plays hard not the dirty stuff maybe i look at him diff because hes spurs. i just dont think hes that dirty i just think hes a bit retarded and doesnt have full control of what he does with his body good thing hes that good on d and hittin threes at least.

  59. doug says:

    Bynum needs alot of work but the talent is there. He needs to add more to his arsenal. He’s loaded with jumphooks he needs to mix in a couple of drop steps and he sets up to high on the block thats why he shoots alot of jumpers and jump hooks and we need him to be more consistent on the boards.

  60. K Dizzle says:

    Yesterday was for all the haters sayin that Bynum and Ariza wouldn’t have made a difference last season. I haven’t seen every game ever, but I can definitely say that Bynum’s d on Duncan was the best I’ve seen one on one since Shaq in his prime and a game I saw when Camby made him work for his 20-10. We beat the Cavs, Celtics and Spurs at home and Bynum and Ariza showed their value. Thank God Farmar’s back so we can rest Fish for the playoffs.

    @ Sanpitch
    you really need to stop, dude. Bynum can post up and hit you with the hook AND has got the most solid 10-15 foot jumper for any center not named Duncan, Yao or Ilgauskas. When you try to post somethin that has no truth to it, it makes me wonder if you actually watch the kid play or are just jumpin on the hate parade. Of course he got exposed when Duncan pulled him out, it’s TIM DUNCAN. The footwork is phenomenal for a guy 7’0 and 285 at the age of 21. Seriously tho, what do you think AB’ll do when he gets double teamed? He plays with Kobe. If you double teamin AB and you got Kobe and Pau on the floor, then it’ll be a long 48.

  61. K Dizzle says:

    Yesterday was for all the haters sayin that Bynum and Ariza wouldn’t have made a difference last season. I haven’t seen every game ever, but I can definitely say that Bynum’s d on Duncan was the best I’ve seen one on one since Shaq in his prime and a game I saw when Camby made him work for his 20-10. We beat the Cavs, Celtics and Spurs at home and Bynum and Ariza showed their value. Thank God Farmar’s back so we can rest Fish for the playoffs.

    @ Sanpitch
    you really need to stop, dude. Bynum can post up and hit you with the hook AND has got the most solid 10-15 foot jumper for any center not named Duncan, Yao or Ilgauskas. When you try to post somethin that has no truth to it, it makes me wonder if you actually watch the kid play or are just jumpin on the hate parade. Of course he got exposed when Duncan pulled him out, it’s TIM DUNCAN. The footwork is phenomenal for a guy 7’0 and 285 at the age of 21. Seriously tho, what do you think AB’ll do when he gets double teamed? He plays with Kobe. If you double teamin AB and you got Kobe and Pau on the floor, then it’ll be a long 48.

  62. Ian says:

    doug this is a baseball country messin with that gets you into fight specially with winter ball (u know crazy soccer fans fight that happens with with winter ball but not as big). licey and aguilas are the 2 popular teams when those teams match up in the finals damnnnnnnn specially now that they both have 21 titles (tied for first) next year is gonna be awesome hehe.

    u know caribbean countries treat everyone like that people dont know u here and u get invited to homes for dinner and stuff and help u with everything, very diff to most people in other big countries.

    btw pujols is the best

  63. BROGDEN says:

    i DON’T believe in the ROCKETS.
    i DO believe in JORDAN FARMER. He looked grrrrrr-EAT!
    i DO believe BIG AL should be at ASG weekend.
    i still DON’T believe House got off like dat!
    i DON’T believe in some of Curry’s roster experiments.

    i DO believe that KG is one of ONLY a few that can make Dirk’s life miserable. It seemed like Dirk was facing KG one-on-one for a minute. KG’s LENGTH matches up SUPER WELL with Dirk’s. NO HOMO

    i DON’T believe the Bulls belong to Del Negro anymore.
    i DO believe LOVE will have a long NBA career.
    i still DON’T believe LA can be as PHYSICAL as Boston or Cleveland but…

    i DO believe ANDREW BYNUM makes LA the most dangerous team.

  64. Ian says:

    kdizzle
    fisher rested for the playoffs?
    if u lose in the playoffs i bet it was because of some weird ass fisher sequence of plays

  65. LAballer says:

    yeah the caribbean is real cool..im out here in st maarten right now on business and come out here every now and then..good folks..strip clubs aint too bad either =]

  66. doug says:

    yeah I like pujols. I don’t know if they treat everyone like that me and my boys blended in more with the people in DR. We were in Punta Cana and they looked like they were trying to jam up the more tourist looking folks(white people). But they kind of brought it on themselves disrespecting the women and asking stupid questions like why doesn’t the dominican republic have more burger kings on the island. Why do dominicans hate A-Rod so much? That cats a gamer.

  67. doug says:

    We need better gaurd play, Fisher is getting worse and worse as he gets older, he’s ball handling and decision making skills are poor at best. Fisher is at his best when he’s spotting up for three pointers on kick outs and when he’s taking charges. Anything other than that is asking too much.

  68. doug says:

    I get nervous anytime I see him handling the ball. He looks uncoordinated out there.

  69. K Dizzle says:

    No, i didn’t post that twice….Damn…

    @ Lakeshow – I’d trade 16 wins this playoffs for 70 regs next season

    One more thing cuz this pissed me off a lil.
    You guys catch Van Gundy and Jackson postin their all-star reserves and not havin Granger or Bosh cuz their teams “aren’t” winnin? They talk about fan votin bein off and these two clowns don’t have Bosh or Granger and they put on Mo williams and Kendrick Perkins and even DWill and Millsap. Now I love DWill and Milsap, but there’s no way Deron’s played enough games and I wouldn’t put Milsap over Gasol, Jefferson, Nowitzki or Carmelo. If it was up to those two, Mitch Richmond never gets into the game cuz he was carryin a sorry sacramento team for years. It’s all-star, not mvp…

    props to Jose Calderon for showin that if he was healthy all year, we’re not talkin Rondo, Rose, or Nelson for an all-star berth cuz that dude is the best PURE point guard in the east and I’m lovin the silence from the “They need to trade Bargnani” crowd. Dude is officially untouchable now. Not even lookin like a bad pick now

    Peace

  70. method526 says:

    redd to the cavs = lebron doesnt need to shoot anymore

  71. Ian says:

    hahahha doug i know what u mean
    its usually because of what u said nott all of course but some of the tourist that come here do that shit to the woman (those are the ones that dont get anything). u see them in clubs tryin to grab and tell stupid ass shit to the women i know what u mean. u come over and treat everyone like friends trust me ull be treated the same way. we dont do burger king lol not out type of food i think there are less then 10 in the whole dr. i mean why would u come over from the us the fast food nation and ask for burger king in the caribbean i can just imagine the 50 year old white dude that weights 400 pounds askin for a whopper here, bro have some fish or lobster.

    now on the arod part i personally like him i think hes the second best player in the majors but heres the thing people are realll proud of baseball here and they love when players take pride im being from dr like big papi who they love here, but the arod hate started when he said he was from usa and then played for team usa now he wants to play for us. u can see also his attitude man in allstar games u see all the dominican players with flags screamin havin a good time and this dude shits in a corner in a suit.

  72. LakeShow84 says:

    Lol Ian,

    let it blow up doo.. The only way it blows up is if he gets injured again.. He has already outplayed some of the supposed “better centers” in the league and he is picking up where he left off before as far as outplaying his matchups.. and let me clear it before someone says something dumb, NO he did not outplay Duncan.. all i am saying is if he continues to improve (D and rebounding because the offense is ALMOST there) and maintains the drive to be the best Center in league we are golden..

    In my opinion he is already in the top 10 in the league.. That could be because of the lack of bigs but still he is a big (soon to be Huge) difference maker.. There is a reason we didnt trade him J-kidd..

  73. LakeShow84 says:

    And what is everyone talking about??

    Did the 72 win bulls lose the championship?? i never said we would make 70 and lose the finals..

    Everyone getting soft on here..

    “i would rather take a bullet in the head than see my girl cry”

    “i would rather jump in front of a bus than watch my puppy go hungry”

    Ya’all soft!! we win 70 and im talkin 2-3 sweeps on route to ANOTHER championship!!

  74. Ian says:

    lakeshow hehehe im not bashing him yeah i think hes top ten and i know that not outplayin duncan is stupid lol who does one on one in the post???

    i kinda think its cuz of the lack of bigs but that doesnt matter really cuz if everyone sucks and u have an ok big then hes the best.

    me being a spur fan i dont want him to be that good lol understand where im comin from.

    spurs and lakers have one thing in comon if bynum becomes a star (3rd to 4th best center imo behind howard and yao and fights for 3rd with horford imo) kidd woulda been involved in 2 trades that coulda damaged or futures back in 03 the spurs were thinking of tradin parker for kidd that woulda been sadd as hell and now with bynum. kidd woulda been traded for our 2 future franchise players damn

  75. doug says:

    oh okay,A-rod not representing the DR.yeah you gotta be proud of wear you come from. Yeah that’s exactly how that cat looked(fat,white and about 50 years old) and I just got away from him because I didn’t want anyone to think he was part of my camp. Me and my boys were like why would you come to the DR to eat Burger King and the cat kept asking me and my boys if we knew where the weed was at? Like a NARC of some sort, real disrespectful stereotyping. Good Biz when I’m out there I’ll definitely get at u.

  76. Mister Sun says:

    kidd was a free agent in 2003, so it would’ve have been a sign and trade with parker, which wasn’t even mentioned back then.
    so nope, the spurs didn’t almost trade parker for kidd…

  77. Sanpitch says:

    K Dizzle

    now you need to stop. bynum “has got the most solid 10-15 foot jumper for any center not named Duncan, Yao or Ilgauskas.” i would also add amare, memo, j.o., al jefferson, bogut, and biedrinis to that list. so then does that really validate what you said? doesn’t that put his jumper about mediocre?

    bynum is better with his back to the basket. if he faces up, i’ll put my money on the defender every time.

    i’m just making observations from what i watched yesterday and all the other games that i have seen.

    tell me this K Dizzle, if bynum played for milwaukee or minnesota would you be all over his nuts like you are? or is it just ’cause he’s a laker? try to look at him as unbiased as you can and you will see that he’s 85% hype. now granted 42 points was awesome.

  78. LakeShow84 says:

    Yeah those trades would’ve screwed BOTH of us up.. And what cracks me up is people say Tony Parker isnt a hall of famer and NEVER will be..

    Dude is probably the best little guy (who helps his team win!) i have ever seen get into the paint and finish.. i still remember when he crossed up Devean George NASTY and dropped the floater over Shaq..

    And i feel ya.. the whole League doesnt want him to be that good..

  79. Powerslave says:

    Kobe looked at his hand and winced after every shot he took. Something’s gonna give.

  80. Ian says:

    mister sun
    yes it was a sign and trade and the deal didnt go thru because the spurs at then end said no we will take a chance with the kid and it payed out. no idea where u got that from.

    lakeshow
    u know thats retarded and hate parker is a hof just by keepin up the 20 and 7 numbers and not winnin again he already has 3 and a finals mvp he deron and paul are around the same age and hes ahead of both by a fair margin to be a hofer.

  81. LakeShow84 says:

    Did someone just say Biedrins has a jumper!?!? doo cant even shoot a smooth FT without me cringin..

    WOW i think you have just added yourself to the dip column Sanspitch lol and Lebron fans should never address hype.. It doesnt click..

  82. Ian says:

    just let me know doug

  83. Mister Sun says:

    @ ian

    http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9C04E1D9123DF93AA35754C0A9659C8B63&sec=&spon=&pagewanted=all

    Since Parker’s salary would come to $713,500 next season, the Nets would not be able to sign Kidd, trade him and then get Parker back in exchange.

    no comment on my part spurs “fan”

  84. Sanpitch says:

    to post 81

    had to put biedrinis in that argument to prove a point.

  85. Ian says:

    mister sun
    im not goin to click on that
    if the deal had gone thru it was gonna be sign and trade and a few more players to make it work

    and please leave the retarded spurs “fan” line for someone else in fact yeah im fake spurs fan because i dont remember all the details of how a deal was gonna go thru 6 years ago nice one my man that one cut me bad.

  86. doug says:

    definitely Ian.

  87. Ian says:

    my first paragraph was of course an i suppose before u bring one more stuff u yahooed.

  88. Mister Sun says:

    as you read earlier, i knew what i was talking about. the link was just to show it.

  89. Ian says:

    mister sun
    i guess i didnt when i said we woulda had kidd and no parker guess u didnt get what i meant but hey good one.

  90. Ian says:

    later peeps im out thanks mister sun for remindin me in not a fan i almost started to believe it peace

  91. Mister Sun says:

    u said it was almost a sign and trade parker-kidd, which I showed you is nonsense. thats what it was about.
    end of story

  92. Mister Sun says:

    np ian, im here to help you guys.

  93. K Dizzle says:

    Well, Biedrins doesn’t help your argument,Amare is not a center, Jefferson’s not a center, Memo doesn’t post up or rebound and we won’t even talk about his low post defense.
    JO’s not healthy enough to hit a j and if Bogut was in LA and Bynum was in Milwaukee, one would be Kaman and the other would be Oden, the solid center on a bad team or the young kid with huge potential on a good team.If you would take Bogut over Bynum, that’s on you. We’ll just agree to disagree. It doesn’t matter where dudes play. When Ray Allen and Sam were killin teams, you didn’t care where Milwaukee was, you know where Tim Duncan is,you know who Al Jefferson is, you knew who KG was. Is Chris Mihm better than Kev love cuz he plays in LA? This reasonin that AB wouldn’t get any ink in a small city is junk. Usin where a player’s from as hype doesn’t fly anymore cuz it’s 2009 and with the media today, you know who can ball.
    My post was a reply to
    “Watching the Lakers Spurs game yesterday, AB is a good defender and has that hook shot from the middle of the key that is unstoppable but that’s about it. when his back is to the hoop, he’s good. when he faces up he’s not.” and
    “bynum is not going to be a huge offensive threat. he should watch marcus camby and try to pattern his career after him.”
    That shows me that either you didn’t see the 42 point game or the game vs. Washington cuz if you did, you wouldn’t post that all he has is a jumphook. Dime posted the hilites, maybe look at it. Comparin AB to Camby offensively is an insult. He already, at the age of 21, has more moves in the paint than Camby. Why would you want to limit yourself to a player you should be better than? I agree with you that he can watch Camby to learn some nuances of rebounding and shotblockin, but offensively, he’ll probably learn more from Kareem than camby….just sayin.
    I’m a Laker fan, bro. I rep Bynum as much as I repped Ronny Turiaf or Elden Campbell when they played here.
    So when someone posts false info, I say somethin. the good thing about this is the better AB plays, the better the team does, the less the haters can say…

  94. Ian says:

    mister sun
    u r help to help us
    sorry was that u tryin to be funny???

  95. rangerjohn says:

    well well well, all i can say is 1st you LA fans drop the same shit i drop and i am called out as “no cred” LMAO get over it. you guys are the biggest hypocrits in here. tell me again how jordan farmar and “the machine” are the KEY TO A TITLE, tell me again how ariza didnt travel, tell me again how fisher didnt foul.

    talk about flopping too, tell me all about it, did anyone else notice the play where mason bumped pau on the back (nobody else around him) and he starts holding his FACE and yelling to get refs attention. that shit is worse then manu falling on his back. tell me again how duncan can go in for a layup, get poped on the head by bynam and no foul is called?

    and now to mr sun, you say i am an idiot and know nothing about bb when YOU are the duechebag who said “amare has finess and duncan uses his strength and has no post moves” that right there is enough to blow your oppinion out of the water, i dont care who you are.

    now that said, yes the spurs played a terrible game, and the lakers played about as good as they could, guys playing out of their head like the rockets during their 22 game streak. its not over till the fat lady sings and it looks like phil is about the closest thing to a fat lady on the floor last night.

  96. LakeShow84 says:

    Lol RangerJohn..

    lol waaaaaa waaaaaaaaaaaa.. cry me a river.. but your right! im sure if Duncan gets that foul call we dont win at all!! Lol you make it sound like we played a perfect game and we DIDNT.. Sorry mayne your team cant see us anymore.. i know its a rivalry and you WANT to be relevant but you guys just aint up there with us anymore.. Be thankful you guys got that game in SA earlier.. I think the McNuggets knock you guys out this year honestly..

    But Mr Sun u said Duncan uses his strength and has no post moves?? wow thats like saying Anna Nicole married for love lol

  97. LakeShow84 says:

    And its the Spurs who are still stinging from that 4-1 bouncing last year so trust me..

    THERE IS NOTHING TO GET OVER.. You guys took one BARELY-ESCAPED-WITH-MY-ANAL-VIRGINITY, regular season game and tried to say you can actually see us?? This game has nothing to do with who is better.. Look at the records, looks at the Offensive/Defensive ranking, look at the matchups, look at the depth.. its all there for you to see.. Oh yeah and we still got the best player in the world on our team..

    But your a blind fan so nah you guys need to fade to black and accept that the good ole days are back.. and this time Duncan aint young enough to have a say in it..

  98. LakeShow84 says:

    MUUUAAAAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA

    MUUUUUUUUUAAHAHAHAHAHA

  99. rangerjohn says:

    see this is the thing, while the game ended close the 1st time, the game was not even that close until the last 4 minutes when the spurs tried to give it away.

    then sundays game was close until duncan came out of the game with 3 minutes left in teh 3rd. duncan stays in the game and things stay close but pop thinking bigger picture took his boy out to get some rest and not let him wear himself out considering they have 4 home games in the next 6 weeks.

    i will admit that the 2nd unit of the spurs is not on par with the lakers and they do need to make a move but there are no moves out there (for now). guys like ime need to go, hill needs more minutes before the season gets late, bowen needs to start over finley, and thomas should be starting over bonner.

    as for that foul on duncan, that was early in the 3rd, and it was ONE example, not the only one. duncan is constantly pounded on with no calls, not just against the lakers but in general. same goes for parker.

    how about the play where duncan knocks the ball from kobe, manu dives for it and kobe grabs manus arm away from the ball with a no call. kobe passes to ariza for a dunk. thats a potential 4 points on fouls right there, both nocalls are in teh 3rd where the spurs are down by i believe it was around 4-6 points at that point. those 2 fouls (among others) add up to 4 points bringing things to a tie or down 2, this keeps duncan in the game longer or brings him back in the 4th. things COULD have been different.

    the only thing about last season that bothers me, manu’s ankle, he is even 75% and thats a different series. that and the barry no call when fisher .

  100. LakeShow84 says:

    RangerJonh RangerJohn RangerJohn..

    Ill start by agreeing with you and saying yes Timmy gets fouled RELIGIOUSLY and doesnt get his calls.. BUT it happens man.. If i looked at officiation i would be looking at game 2 of last years finals and NEVER watched Bball again.. It happens on the homecourt man sorry..

    But you cant sit here and say a 4 point swing which would made it TIED or given you guys 2-4 point lead has anything to do with losing by 10+.. Our second unit gassed you guys pretty hard.. AND we are known this year for putting teams away in the second half..

    NO EXCUSES.. And if you want to get into injuries Bynum and Ariza woulda, coulda, shoulda, been there last year and it wouldve been worst.. but dont worry about it.. If we meet in the playoffs im sure you guys will get 2..

    Dont be a blind homer.. You guys CAN compete with us no doubt but you guys CANT (90% sure) beat us in a 7 game series.. you make it sound like we didnt outplay you yesterday and the refs STOLE the game from you.. Nah i think the refs STOLE the game from us earlier this year..

    And for the record if Barry is called for the foul it wouldve been before the shot and had he hit his shots it would have tied the game.. You think your going to cakewalk an OT victory in LA?? your a ranger not a psychic John..

  101. rangerjohn says:

    a tied game with 3-5 minutes left in the 3rd leaves things in the air. loking at the way pop plays his guys, tim duncan stays in the game longer, tony stays in teh game longer which keeps the 2nd unit off the floor. lakers 2nd unit cant handle the spurs 1st team. the spurs 1st team (manu included in that) can hang with ANY TEAM in the league EVERY GAME. yes the lakers 2nd team ran circles around the spurs reserves. nobody is argueing the second team needs something.

    also no arguing the home team NORMALLY gets the calls, but then again the lakers and the cavs, well labron, and then wade tend to get more calls then other teams.

    when you look at the fouls, the spurs put the lakers on teh line TWICE as many times, that ALONE makes up the differnece in the game. while i dont argue legit calls, i do argue there where many bad calls, and even more NO CALLS. and the no calls went in the favor of phil. i mean damn phil is over talking to the refs about their families and about one of them having tendonitis and shit.

    as for barry, the spurs may have won in over time, they may not but the refs took that chance out of the players hands and thats the problem.

    and once again lakers fans compare ariza and bynam to a healthy manu. while this season is a bit different, last season, manu was twice the player both of them where combined when they where healthy so no comparison. and nobody can legitimately argue to the different on that fact. manu was borderline top 5 player last season EXCEPT he came off the bench.

  102. jamesinva says:

    LOL at the first post. “we’ll see em in the finals” ????/ hahahaha are the mavs even gunna make the playoffs?!!?

  103. LakeShow84 says:

    04 Finals we were the least penalized team in the league heading the finals..

    We got into Finals and got into foul trouble 14/16 QUARTERS.. look it up.. it happens man..

    And i didnt compare Bynum and Ariza to Manu but you think you guys could hang if we had a another above average Big?? and then have our SECOND best defender back to slow down Manu?? it aint about being better its about having certain players do their job.. And dont talk Manu up like he is a bball god.. He is not 2 people and to say he adds up to more than Ariza and Bynum is foolish.. He aint never pulled down 10 boards and he doesnt lock down the opposing teams best perimeter player.. Bowen does that for you..

    Unless you guys trade 4 a good Center (and not the defenseless Brad Miller) its a wrap..

  104. LakeShow84 says:

    And i know you read shit to harshly RangerJ.. Ariza would SLOW DOWN Manu..

    Not shut him down ok pumpkin??

  105. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    Yall got yall ass whipped Ranger nothing around it.And aint shit wrong with Kobe fingers.He just like the dickriding he gets for wearing tape on his shit.And yall La fans are something else.He went from dislocated fingers to 3 broke fingers.After his next game yall gonna sayhis fingers are fake and he just shooting with his palms.

  106. Flip says:

    lol @ “angry three”

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