Smack / Jan 28, 2009 / 3:32 am

The Alabama Scoring Machine

Mo WilliamsMo Williams, Dime #33

All this time, none of us have ever really talked about Mo Williams as a potential All-Star pick. But if you’re in the camp that believes the Cavs deserve at least two All-Stars, Mo would be your #2 guy. However, Mo happened to make his best ASG campaign statement after the coaches polls had closed, when he dumped 43 points (7 threes), eight boards and 11 assists on the Kings last night in another Cleveland home win. “The Alabama Scoring Machine” — Mo’s nickname from the Cavs’ announcers, not something disgusting from Urban Dictionary — scored 24 in the first half, when Kevin Martin (35 pts) and the Kings kept it surprisingly close. Since no one wanted to guard Mo, LeBron was content to play the facilitator role, racking up triple-double numbers: 23 points, 15 rebounds and 11 dimes … Mike Brown ditched the tie for this one and was apparently going for the casual-cool look, but he came off more like Al Roker after one too many shots at the NBC Christmas party … In general, Boobie Gibson is pretty useless when he’s not hitting threes. But at least now he’s trying to maximize his productivity in that area. Gibson is becoming adept at the old Reggie Miller leg-kick, which he used to draw two three-shot fouls last night … Dwight Howard makes a habit of killing the Pacers — in the first two Orlando/Indiana matchups this season, The Centaur averaged something like 28 points, 19 boards and four blocks. So of course Jim O’Brien’s strategy last night was to go small (Troy Murphy at center, Danny Granger and Dunleavy Jr. at the forwards, T.J. Ford and Jarrett Jack in the backcourt), which was immediately exposed as a bad idea. The Magic were scoring at will right from tip-off, and it wasn’t even about them taking threes; one of their announcers called it a “layup line” about three minutes in. “Indiana claims to be better defensively, but I haven’t seen it,” one of them said. For the game Orlando dropped 135 points … E-mail from Dime’s Austin Burton: “I stepped out of the room and heard Orlando’s color guy say, ‘He goes into the air without a thought in his head as to what he’s going to do. He’s too talented of a player to do that as often as he does.’ I knew without even looking he was talking about T.J. Ford.” … Of course once the second half hit and Orlando was cruising, it became T.J. Time. Ask a Raptors fan: When the game is no longer in question, T.J. (23 pts) suddenly morphs into Steve Francis in his prime. Last night he was crossing dudes up, attacking the rim, getting and-ones — throw in the turnovers and he was getting buckets for both teams …

Gerald WallaceGerald Wallace, Dime #39

Speaking of guys who get it done when nobody’s watching, Boris Diaw has been playing out of his mind since being traded to Charlotte. Diaw lit up the Lakers in a double-OT upset, finishing with 23 points, nine boards and nine assists. The ‘Cats led most of the second half, until L.A. made a run that Derek Fisher capped with a baseline pull-up to put them ahead at the five-minute mark. That’s when Diaw took over. He scored inside to tie it up, drove the lane and freed Emeka Okafor for a tip dunk, hit a turnaround J, then knocked down a three to put Charlotte ahead comfortably. At least you thought so. They could have iced it when Andrew Bynum (23 pts, 14 rebs, 6 blks) crushed Gerald Wallace and may have broken one of his ribs (Hey, AB said he wasn’t letting anybody dunk on him), earning Bynum a flagrant foul and sending the ‘Cats to the line. But Raja Bell missed both freebies as Crash’s replacement shooter, and given that small window, Kobe took advantage and led the charge to force overtime … Kobe (38 pts) fouled out late in the first OT — causing L.A.’s announcers to speak in hushed tones like they were at a wake — and the Lakers predictably fell apart; losing the ball, losing their assignments on D, and allowing Charlotte to force the second OT … Shannon Brown proved the difference that time, hitting some early buckets to give the ‘Cats a cushion and assisting Okafor on the dagger … Did you catch Raja’s post-game interview on NBA TV? Did he really say “Juwan Howard” and “fresh blood” in the same sentence? … During the Spurs’ pre-game show, the Jazz mascot (a bear whose name is just “BEAR”) stood behind Sean Elliott and the play-by-play guy mugging for the camera. Elliott looked over his shoulder and said, “I thought that was Bruce Bowen for a minute. They almost resemble each other.” That was Elliott’s one redeeming moment in a night of (even for him) severe homer-ism. Every foul call that went against the Spurs was bogus, every shot the Jazz hit was lucky, and after Manu Ginobili missed a desperation heave one time trying to beat the shot clock, Elliott said the shot “rimmed out” when it actually almost put a hole in the backboard … The game came down to the Jazz not being able to contain Tim Duncan inside (24 pts, 9 rebs, 8 asts, 3 blks) and continually losing track of Matt Bonner beyond the arc (20 pts, 6 threes) … Did you know Deron Williams has one of the Jazz trainers keep a stick of Carmex on him so Deron can apply it before tip-off and throughout the game? D-Bizz Oh No needs to work that into the “Scream Utah!” remix … Also, if you haven’t already, let us know if you organize your own run. Who knows, maybe we’ll come through or feature it on the site … We’re out like Kobe …

92 Responses to “The Alabama Scoring Machine”

  1. J Lod says:

    First…Lakers lose to a sub .500 team even with their full line up..what happened here? where’s the D?gosh, get them together lakers..

  2. J Lod says:

    oh yea..i’m out like bruce ‘bear’ bowen..LOL

  3. Mister Sun says:

    and here we go again with rangerjohn crying about the spurs coverage…

  4. K Dizzle says:

    @ J Lod - please try to relax. Charlotte’s 12-10 since they got Diaw and Bell so don’t let the record fool you. They caught Boston, Portland, Detroit and Phoenix sleepin too.

    Bad news is it’s a bad loss and Gasol goin 4-16 from the field don’t help. Good news is Bynum is startin to sizzle. Feel bad about him crushin Crash, but that happens and it’s only a matter of time before teams stop challengin him.

    MVP - Kobe, cuz without him, we’re the Milwaukee Bucks

  5. Toan says:

    it’s a goog thing for the lakers they won’t see charlotte in the playoffs…they lost 5 out of the last 6 against them

  6. the Heckler says:

    what the hell is Carmex?

  7. the Heckler says:

    btw…my 2 little nieces can drop 43pts on the kings…and my other niece can get a triple dub.

    aint no great feat at home against the kings.

    Pacers suck. tell austin to find a new bandwagon to jump on. Indy never made sense anyway.

    boris diaw still sucks.

    lakers need a point guard. they should get raymond felton. how much longer is fisher gonna play anyway?…he wants stu jacksons job…

    sean eliiot should be on radio. get that homer bum off tv already

    who would you all rather have: matt bonner or brian scalabrine?

  8. Hey, Jugs from Timbuktu says:

    hey hey hey jugs back on smack with greetings from timbuktu and from bronx

    yes boris diaw finally get the mention from the dime people he is doing real good in his new team like he is inspired and playing very smart yes yes

    and also may i know why you need a lip balm during game isnt that like gay

    true jugs do not use lip balm

    Jugs

  9. K Dizzle says:

    Shame about Steve Francis. He can now join the
    “How the heck you fall off so quick” team with
    Penny Hardaway
    Tracy McGrady
    Chris Webber
    Eddy Curry

  10. Marco says:

    @the Heckler

    I want to see your three nieces playing with b.wallace and A.Varejao (combined strong 8pts 1ass and 11reb vs. kings) and holding the best record in the nba.

  11. Toan says:

    @the Heckler http://www.carmex.ch/popup_image.php?pID=419/imgID=0

  12. GL says:

    I always thought that Matt Bonner and Brian Scalabrine were the same person!

  13. Toan says:

    @GL…they are. when the spurs play the celts they never play against each other at the same time

  14. Hi, Jurg from Denmark says:

    and a big hi hi today from jurgo.

    and can i ask, does anyone think like me that a good trade for nba might be mr elton brand to piston for mr allen iverson to bring him home to phillo. i had a lovely look on realgm.com and this trade is good for both teams.

    and now you know i think that.

    this is from jurg, hi hi.

  15. the_don_mega says:

    @K Dizzle -

    “MVP - Kobe, cuz without him, we’re the Milwaukee Bucks” - LMFAO!

  16. Lee says:

    Has there ever been 2 triple doubles by guys on the same team ??

  17. Iannyb says:

    Tough loss for the my Lakers,but Kobe needs to pass the stage where he’s intimidated by his rivals especially raja bell.On a team with this much talent 28 shots is way too many.Bynum is continuing to play strong,keep it up buddy.kobe needs to definitety slip into that facilitator mood.Too many guys around, even Fisher wants to shoot the damn ball.Defensively we always allow a letdown.get it together lakers.It’s about that time

  18. Timmy D says:

    How come nobody gives the Bucks any shit for giving away Mo Williams for nothing and turning the Cavs into legit contenders while every chance the media gets they trash the Grizz b/c they act like they gave away Pau for nothing when they at least got some stuff back and now actually have a payroll that can be dealt with for a small market. And once again tonight you saw how much of a role player Pau truly is and can never really be the man

  19. webbie352 says:

    throw in the turnovers and he was getting buckets for both teams …

    lol youll can be funny.

  20. Marco says:

    @Lee … of course Jordan and Pippen had each a tripple double in one game.
    I think I can remember this has also happen just a year ago I think the Wizards or Nets have done this too?!… Jamison and Butler or Kidd and Carter but I am not sure.

  21. Smitty313 says:

    Lakers looked lost when Kobe fouled out. It was like their whole mood changed when Kobe died, I mean fouled out. Kobe almost won that game by himself. The Lakers don’t want to see Orlando or Bobcats in the finals (Bobcats will never happen).

    Mo Williams was a beast last night. When was the last time someone other than Bron went for forty something in a Cavs uniform.

  22. Smitty313 says:

    #17 lannyb. Kobe shot the ball horrible in the 1st qrt. But he murder Raja the other 3 qtrs.

  23. rangerjohn says:

    @ #3 mr sun
    damn man you ARE the biggest dumbshit on this board. tell me again how tim duncan is all raw power with no finesse and how amare is a pure finesse player who uses his bag of 1000000 post moves to get the job done!

    duechebag

    now actually i FINALLY got a spurs game on league pass IN HD with some spurs comentators. nothing worse then the visiting team showing the game though. cant stand it when the other team comes into SA and cals the game, dont like the spurs going somewhere else and calling the game. should always be the home teams people.

    looks like dime covered most everything. they did miss the part where bonner hit a 3 then okur (his assignment) came down and hit one right back. POP GOT IN BONNERS ASS! elliot is right A LITTLE BIT, there where again some shittttyyyyyy calles. i mean damn 4 offensive fouls on four straight possessions.

    all in all that was one of the sloppiest games of teh season IMO. they may not have turned it over 30 times but it was ugly.

  24. Mister Sun says:

    lmao rangerjohn,
    if you really believe i was serious about that…wow
    even commenting on such an obvious joke is just dumb

  25. rangerjohn says:

    OHH no no covering that shit up, you didnt just say it one time, you have repeated that shit 3-4 times, that is no joke, you really believed that shit till you got called out on it by everyone here.

  26. Mister Sun says:

    looooool,ok, if you belive that, fine. i think i said it the first time during the playoffs, where it was so obvious how duncan(moves) and amare(athletic. and at least a jump shot now) played. it was actually funny seeing people respond to that.
    but believe it, np for me.
    people on here know you are just a blind homer.
    just check the comments on the smack after the lakers game. im not the only one saying that, its ALOT of people now. yet you still act like you are correct everytime when its just laughable.

  27. rangerjohn says:

    yep thats right, i am a homer, i LOVE my team and there is no team i cant stand more then the suns. then the mavs, then the lakers. followed closely by the celtics.

    and as i said, you can play that shit off like you where joking but you even argued to the point to try to prove it. lmao keep telling yourself you where joking if it makes you feel better but while everyone knows how much i love the spurs, we also all know how little you actually know about the players.

  28. Mister Sun says:

    maybe there is a chance of reading the things where i said that, there were even people realizing i was just messing, like saying garnett has average athleticism and is overcoming that with post moves whereas TD is a bruiser and pure athleticism. lol

    im done with you for now.

    please keep ignoring that everybody here is laughing at you because you are serious about your silly game analysis.

  29. vinny says:

    man that was a fucked up flagrant by ab-he should get suspended for it!!
    jim obrien is a terrible coach -his matchups- plays out of timeouts-hes just terrible!!
    there is something about the bobcats-they have beaten the lakers like 5 out of 6 times and thats with different coaches-its funny how some teams just have other teams numbers!!3 times in la!!

  30. that's whats up says:

    Spurs/Lakers Western Finals
    Cavs/Celts Eastern Finals

    same as last month, same as next month - let’s just get to the playoffs already

  31. rangerjohn says:

    ok here you guys go, go vote
    http://msn.foxsports.com/BestDamnDreamGirls#bracket

    vote for sara hoots, she is a close friend of my brothers and came from the shertz texas hooters (outside SA)

  32. Spliff 2 My Lou says:

    Okur messed that one up for the Jazz. He air balled a three and a long jump shot, badly missed another wide open three, and then bricked a point blank lay up. All in the final 5 minutes. Deron shouldn’t have been giving him the rock.

    The Spurs announcers are out of control. They complained everytime a Jazz player flopped. But then again, I guess they would know a flop when they see one. Between the Jazz and the Spurs there was more bad acting then a Pauly Shore movie festival.

  33. Yog friend of Jurg says:

    Yog says:

    Rangerjohn is obvious deuce. Spurs am a suck team and no one likes them or you. To be removing Duncans man-meet from your mouth would be good before Boner puts it in you (Matt Boner).

  34. LAballer says:

    so rangerjohn is our version of sean elliot? is that whats goin on? haha

    at least the lakers dont play down to their opponents..freakin aye..

  35. rangerjohn says:

    oh come on now guys I KNOW YOU CAN DO BETTER THEN THAT!

    you guys are not trying hard enough, you have yet to invoce the slightest feeling of dislike or anything.

    gotta try harder, my feelings are not hurt in the slightest yet.

  36. LAballer says:

    and thank you yog for clarifying which “boner” you were referring to because im sure we were all confused..and your cleverness is remarkable..i loved how you removed one n from his name to make that joke..simply great..you really should consider posting on this site more often..

  37. Ian says:

    kdizzle
    lol comon the lakers without kobe are the bucks thats why hes mvp????

    lakers are way better than the bucks without kobe and lebron is mvp because without him the cavs are thunder my friend.
    webber doesnt belong in that list

    dime
    elliott sucks but he didnt make the manu comment of just rimmed out.

    thats what up
    those were my preseason picks and it looks like its happening.

    ranger john
    u hate the suns i love em nothing is better than beatin the suns again and again and again and again sometimes they get close but boom we beat them again sure hope the suns get that 7th seed.

    yog
    please stop posting u give people headaches tryin to read your crap.

    btw how about parker outplayin deron and beatin his ass in utah and some of u say theres no way paker is better pleaseeee. this shit is between parker and paul

  38. Ian says:

    laballer
    dont encourage him to keep postin man whats wrong with u

  39. LAballer says:

    sarcasm my friend..haha

  40. that's whats up says:

    I agree with Ian about Paul and Parker - top two in the West, if not the League.

    Only thing about Parker, this year he suddenly thinks going 1 on 5 is a great matchup for him. He needs to chill his nuts a bit and manage the game’s better(imo).

    But, Parker is always clutch and always makes the right decisions in big playoff games - there is no doubt about that.

    Paul, he’s great but he’s still learning.

  41. yoda says:

    “K Dizzle says:
    Shame about Steve Francis. He can now join the
    “How the heck you fall off so quick” team with
    Penny Hardaway
    Tracy McGrady
    Chris Webber
    Eddy Curry”

    K, sorry man, but E-City has never been among top nba players. tbh, he never been in top 30 (top 50? ).

  42. rangerjohn says:

    parker has been a little to “wild” lately, he has been learning from manu maybe? manu is killing me, his shot is so off he needs to stick to slashing and driving to the basket and stay away from teh 3 ball. nothing worse then watching him get a steal and then pull up from 3 and brick it. other night JVG was talking about that exact thing, “why would you pull up at 3 on a fast break?”
    tony and manu get to the basket (and hill) so easy, why would they stop, that drives me NUTS! last night, tony had an easy layup with mr no-defense okur on him and he threw it out to mason for 3. if mason had missed pop would have been PISSED (as would i) lucky for tony he made it. but why would you pass up a layup to pass for a 3 when you are up by 8 at the time?

  43. Chaos says:

    Man, I know you dont anyone to dunk on you, but damn AB. Crash wasnt even gonna dunk itwith him in the way but AB stepped to the side and clotheslined him. He may get fined by the L for that one.

    @GL - they are the same person. its like the two albino twins off of The Matrix: Reloaded….trhey’re both pale and need to be killed but you cant, they just keep coming back

  44. K Dizzle says:

    Ian

    maybe I exaggerate a lil but the Bobcats…..read that again, the Bobcats OWN us. It’s like Phoenix and the Spurs. No matter what Phoenix does, Duncan will hit a three or Finley hits a three or Mason gets a 3. Nothin we can do. Problem is Bobcats are a average team so that’s a problem. Bynum probably gonna get a couple games for destroyin GW…
    Thunder are gettin competitive now so Cavs without Bron is more like the Thunder without Durant

    And you know I can’t let you slide with that Parker is better than DWill. It’s Paul, DWill, then Parker. Why? Because Paul can do whatever he wants out there, DWill can do almost what he wants and shut down his man on most nights. TP is good, now that his j is comin along, he can’t be stopped offensively, but he still gets lit up by opposin points. If he got DWill last night, it’s one game

    @ that’s what’s up - 1 on 5 for parker is a good offensive decision cuz he does lotta damage before the d can set up. When the d sets up, then it’s Duncan time

  45. LakeShow84 says:

    Ian you trippin did you watch that game last night?? As soon as Kobe left the game we had NOTHING.. our problem is no one else can create a shot on the perimeter besides KB.. And it doesnt help when Phil takes out Bynum when he literally gobbling up everything near him..

    But the Cavs got Mo Williams, Delonte West AND Pavlocic who can create on their own shots..

    Sorry the only reason Lebron gets the MVP is because their schedule is a cake walk and he can jump REAL REAL high.. lol ok he got skills but last night just shouted Kobe’s worth to our team.. Frickin Bobcats..

    And im sorry Wallace, well, had to crash like that but im tired of foo’s just throwin themselves into our interior.. its about time we took someone out.. I always thought AB had an old school air about him.. The boys turning into a beast.. like i said you guys need to get your shit talkin in this year!

    And Lamar Odom is still useless.. EVERYTIME he is in the game something goes wrong on defense..

  46. Yog friend of Jurg says:

    Yog says:

    You are much funny Ian. My typings is to give you headaches because interpret is not included? Apparentlys in this “text message” world you can’t not take your times to make your wordings decipherables either. Take a looks at my revisions for you. I feeling sad since you obviouslys had no schoolings… I’m to guessing that no punktuations or correct speellings makes you alls more “street creditibilities”. If you no wanting to read me words then… Don’t.

    “kdizzle
    lol. Come on… the lakers without kobe are the Bucks? And that’s why he’s mvp????

    The Lakers are way better than the Bucks without kobe and lebron is the mvp because without him the cavs are the Thunder my friend. And webber doesn’t belong in that list.

    dime
    Elliott sucks but he didn’t make the manu comment of just rimmed out.

    thats what up
    Those were my preseason picks and it looks like it’s happening.

    ranger john
    You hate the suns and I love em… nothing is better than beating the suns again and again and again and again. Sometimes they get close but, boom, we beat them again. I sure hope the suns get that 7th seed.

    yog
    Please stop posting. You give people headaches trying to read your crap.

    btw how about parker outplaying deron and beating his ass in utah? And some of you say there’s no way paker is better pleaseeee. This shit is between parker and paul.”

  47. Yog friend of Jurg says:

    Yog says:

    Tony Parkers is no good to hold D Wills jock.

  48. LakeShow84 says:

    Everytime!

  49. K Dizzle says:

    @ yoda

    sorry, dude, but 2 seasons ago, Curry was a all-star snub at 19.5 and 7.1 on 57% from the field. Two years later, he’s at 2.0 and 2.0. That, my friend, gets you on the “How’d you fall off so quick team” and CWebb went from 21 and 10 to 11 and 8 so yeah, there’s a spot for him too…

    I think some o you drastically underestimate Kobe’s value to the Lakers. Now that Gasol is in LA, you forget why Memphis gave him away so easily, They weren’t winnin. When you trade your franchise player to rebuild, it means you think he’s done. So as much as I usually agree with you, Lakeshow84, I think it’s safe to say if Gasol shoots better than 4-16, you don’t even notice Lamar had a bad night….so in conclusion, the Lakers without Kobe Bryant ain’t no better than the Milwaukee Bucks

  50. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    Since the Lakers got that ass whipped they the Bucks now.Yesterday they was the deepest team ever.Yall lA fans cant call Rangerjohn out after games at all.Ian I didnt see D-Will get outplayed.Every time I looked up he was crossing his way to the rim or setting dudes up for open treys.But no matter TP cant fuck with him regardless.If Bron fouled out in OT LA fans would’ve wrote this:Thats why he aint shit,Kobe would never foul out in OT.That West must be real sweet huh?If LA was in the East they’d be worse than the Bobcats!

  51. UncheckedAggression says:

    You Lakers fans are a riot. Trying to convince everyone that most the players suck just so you can go on thinking that Kobe is the greatest? That’s just reprehensible. Everyone knows that isn’t true, including every commentator that has done a Laker game this year. They are the most talented team in the NBA and anything less than a championship will be a letdown. So shut the fuck up about those Bucks comments–no one is buying it.

  52. LakeShow84 says:

    Possibly because we would have won the game in the regular time period K-Dizz but once it gets down to crunch time and Lamar is in the game he’ll F UP somehow..

    Blow an assignment
    Pickup a dumb foul
    Take a bad DRIVE
    Never goes for contact, always drives away from the rim
    No faith in his shot so he doesnt shoot and hes our WING
    No defense and hes as long as they come
    Cant come down with BIG rebounds but can grab an easy 10

    And last nights favorite was when he shoved someone under the hoop and the ball dropped 3-4 feet away from him and he just STOOD THERE.. Bobcats pick up the ball and throw in a little floater.. HE NEVERS COMES UP WITH THE BIG REBOUND and thats what he is supposedly out there for.. Laker fans how many times have you seen Lamar not get the rebound that wouldve helped sealed the game?

    i can stand Derek Fisher because his worth is in playoff time but Lamar has no real worth to me anymore.. Useless..

  53. LAballer says:

    aiight lets relax fellas..its one freakin game to the jordan bobcats..we’re fine..we all know they never show up to these types of games which is why we keep losing to them..either that or phil keeps losing on bets in golf games to jordan and has to make his team look good..whatever the case..we KNOW kobe is the greatest player in the game right now..we KNOW we arent as good without him on the floor..thats for sure.. but we arent the bucks..we arent the thunder..we have great players..we have the right pieces..we just dont hustle in games like this and thats always been the case..but still we are a very very good NBA team and we’re gonna need the whole squad not just kobe to win the chip..WHICH WE WILL WIN..so lets not give the haters any more reason to question our sense because there is no reason for any one of us to be compared to rangerjohn..thats just unacceptable..LAKERS UP HATERS DOWN!

  54. northern lights says:

    Throw in the turnovers and he was getting buckets for both teams - SO TRUE

  55. LAballer says:

    btw im glad kobe fouled out and im glad the lakers went thru this..all of this will help them point out and fix any of their weaknesses for the playoffs and finals..we can even win in a loss..(getting a lil phil jackson on you fools..)

  56. Kevin says:

    “Ask a Raptors fan: When the game is no longer in question, T.J. (23 pts) suddenly morphs into Steve Francis in his prime.”

    HAHAHAHA, priceless.

  57. Amar says:

    one of the largest obstacles to the jazz beating the spurs happens to be in the 4th quarter the spurs are allowed to foul on defense without being call. either that — or the refs are mad inconsistent. parker makes a living of driving into people and attempting a layup only to get the foul called. when a jazz guy drives and gets fouled, there is rarely a call.

    duncan is a beast though, especially when defended by memo in the paint. why did sloan only play fesenko on the spurs’ back ups? doesn’t sloan remember how fes defended yao so well a few weeks ago? or is he senile . . .

  58. Ian says:

    lakeshow
    im trippin??? what did u get what i posted?? did i mention last night game??? what are u sayin ???
    im trippin because i said the lakers are better than the bucks without kobe lol please man even dizzle admited he exaggerated a bit. a team with odom gasol bynum and a dude named the machine is better than the bucks if you think kobe can take a team like the bucks to the best record in the west like that u must be trippin.

    k dizzle
    ill forever remember the fisher over parker comment so u i guess ud pick deron easily over parker also lol but sorry parker is better imo and dont act like this isnt debatable unlike fisher over parker.
    and no its not thunder without durant i meant with durant lebron is good but no one is that good.

    laballer
    sorry about that lol

  59. Ian says:

    k dizzle
    u said parker gets lit up
    like i said 1000 times before when two great players go head to head both are gettin lit up. now ill ask u does paul,billups,deron,kidd,davis stop parker ??? HELL NO he does the same or even more damage and woops them all in the playoffs

  60. rangerjohn says:

    amar,
    parker gets the call? how many times did he end up on the floor with no call and a BADLY missed shot. same for duncan, duncan doesnt airball a 3 foot layup unless he is fouled, he did 2 times last night with no call.

  61. Ian says:

    doc
    u cant talk about parker cuz i know u r biased parker cant fuck with a dude thats yet to make an allstar game pleaseeeee parker is on his way to the hof lets wait for deron to do something.

  62. Ian says:

    laballer
    agree with almost your entire post 53 that is what i was sayin lakeshow u arent the bucks stop the bs.
    except the “WE know kobe is the greatest player” unless u mean WE as laker fans.

  63. vago says:

    2nd MIP year for Diaw…

  64. LAballer says:

    lol ian i meant we as in everyone in the world who watches the nba with a clear sense for ALL AROUND basketball skills should feel..if you break down every single aspect of basketball…shooting, dribbling, passing, clutch, defense, athletics, freethrows, 3ptrs, competitiveness, desire, toughness, i mean everything including obvious shit im probably forgetting..kobe has to rank extremely high in every field..dont tell me lebron does too..dont tell me that..ill know you guys dont pay attention to basketball then..

    see heres the thing..im not blinded by being a “homer” fan like our pal rangerjohn and im not saying these things cause kobe is on our squad (shaq has always been my favorite player and i was pissed beyond belief he was traded and for most of his career have not liked kobe as a person but loved he was on our team)..so dont tell me im saying this cause hes a laker..im saying this cause its true..he is the best player in basketball today..period

  65. Ian says:

    heheheh relax
    one thing i personally dont think u r the best because u can do all things above avg on the court or in fact in any sport. if u think about it cant josh smith and marion do more more things than duncan? are they better?
    so if i go there kobe can hit the three duncan is a better post scorer so how can u tell me i cant make a case for duncan (not mentioning lebron) as the best when big men can control the game better imo. so taking all that into consideration break out all the fields and tell me how i cant pick duncan???

    ranger john just gets excited about his spurs nothing wrong with that doug gets excited about his lakers also

    dont know we i read something like
    “u arent wrong if u say kobe is the best neither is the dude that says lebron or the guy that still prefers duncan”

  66. Ian says:

    besides we cant do the clear sense thing u r a laker fan with a case for kobe and im a spurs fan with a case for duncan so this isnt going anywhere

  67. LAballer says:

    ok i feel you on that..that argument makes sense cause there was a time in the league that shaq as horrible as is ft’s and 3pt’s are lol was most definitely the best in the league..i was just taking a different approach to the argument and comparing him to lebron and not really including the bigs..

    nothing wrong with homer fans..i agree..and we all have them..its just difficult to discuss anything with them because they feel the need to leave out reasoning and all things that make sense..

  68. Ian says:

    oh shit second thing we agree on
    this isnt good u r a laker fan.

    i know what u mean on the homer fan department thats why i said u can make a case for all three players as the best i picked duncan one hes a spur and a big but i cant say u r crazy and that u have no argument with the other cuz u do.

    but ill admit i do go overboard on the manu department lol specially when dudes call him just a role player

  69. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    @ian-Im not biased agaist tP.He’s a top PG just not better than D-Will.Thats all I say about him.But No dog he’s not no damn Hall of Famer thats getting a little carried away.For what?Because he got Finals MVP one time when we all know Duncan was and will always be the factor in their W’s.So Cornbread should be in too since he got a Finals MVP during Larry Bird’s run to greatness.

  70. GEE..."I saw you and him, walkin in the raaaiiin!" says:

    DIME love the title.

    Houston up!

    So we pretty much looking at 4 groups all the time right.

    LA Fans
    Spurs Fans
    LeBron Fans
    and everyone else lol.

    Bynum needs at least 5 games for that foul.

    Peace to Steve Francis. It was real while it lasted. Perhaps one day you can bring it ba …nevermind.

    Hasn’t Utah loss the last three games. Scream Utah!

    Tonight Detroit will prolly lose in the upset game. The best game of the night should be Hawks and Knicks.

    And Doc the Rockets taking Philly apart tonight.

    The flood is coming!

  71. Ian says:

    doc
    comonn hes been a 3 time champ a finals mvp all he has to do is keep his 20 and 6 avgs he doesnt need to win more. now tell me who has the inside track of all the young pgs. u cant use examples like that to say they should be in im gettin ahead of myself a bit yes but theres no way parker cant accumulate the numbers since he got the hard part outta the way already and thats winning u can make a case for deron bein better but no way u can say parker cant touch him.

    of course duncan will be a factor who wins alone???

  72. rangerjohn says:

    you know all this chat about me, i feel so much love LMAO

    now really, i talk shit about every team except the spurs, if you notice i will ON OCCASION give some credit to other teams. hell i like the rockets, have been a season ticket holder for about 5 yrs now, with seats 5 rows from the visitor bench, right next to where the rockets power dancers go in and out of the tunnel.

    i like portland, and i like orlando. dont have much problem with cleveland, except labron gets WAY to much love. cant stand boston (never have and even less now that KG is a duechebag) and the knicks where always the team i laughed at the most and now even more since they got the pornstach as a coach.

    hell i hate the suns more then any team due to nash and his crooked eye, amare and his “black jesus” tat and his attitude, and i hated them even more then THEY had the pornstach. i cant stand chris paul, because he is the best cheapshot artist in the league and is dirty but so few see it because he is “the savior of/for/and by the people of NO (dont see to many black people at the games though?) i cant stand the mavs because dirk is softer then pau and dantoni’s stach combined yet people claim he is not soft. i cant stand the lakers because their fans are the biggest homers in the game, their coach is COO-COO, their owner plays to much poker and never wins, they traded the only person who has been ble to get them over the hump in 20 yrs, they stole from teh griz, and finally, while he might be the best player in the league (he is not MJ) i hate the lakers because of kobe “i fuck girls in the ass when they dont want it and dont expect it” bryant.

    if you cant respect the honesty, WHO CARES! LMMFAO

  73. LAballer says:

    lol @ gee…wait there are other fans on here? for real?

  74. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    He can be on the track but you said he’s on his way.3 time champ dont mean shit its a lot of them in this world,Jud buechler is one of them.He didnt even play the 4th quarters of the first one.I never said Parker cant touch him.Parker got game out the ass its just that D-Will is better to me.Who cant u sub in for TP at starting point for the Spurs where they couldnt have won them chips.The one they got before him the point was Avery FUCKING Johnson!Manu got more of a case.He’s a champ while being more important than Tony on the same team and ALWAYS was,won his own chip without Timmy in that Olympic shit whereas Tony cant even get his team to the damn Olympics.Not hating he’s one of the best in the world but he’s not HOF great.

  75. LAballer says:

    see what i mean ian..dude is just unstable

  76. GEE..."I saw you and him, walkin in the raaaiiin!" says:

    Seems like the “others” get lost in all the Lakers, Spurs and LeBron hype lol.

  77. Ian says:

    damn ranger

  78. LAballer says:

    hahaha cant even defend him anymore huh? LOL

  79. Ian says:

    doc
    u r doing it again comparing role players to stars im talkin about how many stars have 3 chips and numberssss dont do that doesnt sound smart. are u really gonna play the “what if game” about who can u plug in so ill do it with lets say kobe if tmac were healthy and with shaq he coulda won 3 chips also so i guess kobe is no hofer. that my friend is what u r doin.

    “But no matter TP cant fuck with him regardless” so there it is u said that doesnt that mean parker cant touch deron. what is funny is that i have reasons and posted them about why parker imo is better u dont have anythin on deron other than that weird what if. really jud b. is the example u use to compare to parker.

    on the manu thing i personally think manu is their second best player but we arent comparing manu and parker and to (not u) the people that say deron is the best on his team well he wouldnt be if he played with duncan so if deron would win three chips with duncan like u kinda implied wouldnt that be the same thing???? i guess pippen and mchale shoulndt be in the hof.

    really olympics
    parker has to carry pietrus and diaw kobe has to carry scrubs like howard and wade wow that really sounds fair

  80. Ian says:

    laballer i need some time to come up with something lol
    again ranger damnnnnnnnnnnn

  81. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    Tony Parker CAN NOT take a team to 50 wins if he is the main attraction.I brung Jud up because you said Tony got 3 rings for a HOF case.He was a 3 quarter player in the first one.Saying TP cant fuck with him is just a hood term for D-Will is better.I say D-Will cant fuck with CP3 even though I know he can touch him.I was talking about Manu and Tony Olympic careers.Kobe didnt carry a damn thing in the Olympics he just played his part.Kobe makes first team All NBA’s.D-Will may have not made a all star game yet but he’s been 2nd team all NBA which in my opinion is better than a all star appearance because its for the WHOLE season which means he was picked ahead of Tony LAST YEAR.I think Pip and Mchale should be in because they were the 2nd banana on they teams and made all nba teams u just said it yourself he’s the 3rd best player on HIS OWN TEAM which basically makes him a role player.They sub in George Hill and go on winning streaks.Put Tony in NO somewhere and lets see them take LA down to the wire for best record or better yet lets put him in Utah with Okur and them and see how that works out.He’d have his 20 and 6 while losing.I just think the only difference between him and TJ Ford is Pop.My 2 cents.

  82. fallinup (Black Dynamite = Best Movie Evar!) says:

    ranger cracks me up. You’ll never here me say he don’t speak his mind. LOL

  83. rangerjohn says:

    lmao damn you guys (laker) know that shit was funny, and you know you need to relax.

    fallinup, you are right, i speak my mind, i bullshit sometimes, i am serious sometimes, i keep you ALL guessin. you know the team i REALLY hate the most, the ones that wear those fucked up ugly ass black and white stripes!

  84. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    U hate footlocker employees?

  85. LAballer says:

    LOLL @ doc

  86. rangerjohn says:

    DOC
    i dont see how you can say d will is better and tony plays 3rd fiddle, he was the finals MVP over duncan and manu, d-will hasnt gotten out of the west. i will take that over an all-nba 2nd or 3rd hell a 1st team maybe, imo.

    d-will is not bad, but look at their numbers.
    d-will minutes, 37.3, fg% 43.8, ft% 81.5, pts 16.9, apg 10, rpg 2.8, to 3.4 fouls 2.2
    TP minutes 33.5, fg 49.4, ft 80, pts 20.4, apg 6.6, rb 2.7, to 2.5, fouls 1.3

    tony is playing less minutes, producing more points at a better % with less turn overs and less fouls. not just less but 1 less in each per game. williams only has more assists and 1.5% better ft

    d will gets to the line about .4-.5 more times per game average. but then tony doesnt get a lot of the calls everyone (most) agrees he should get.

  87. rangerjohn says:

    lmao DOC, you got me i do hate footlocker in general lmao

  88. LakeShow84 says:

    Shit i never said we were the Bucks..

    i said Kobe is the MVP of the league now AND this year lol

  89. the cynic says:

    Bynum’s shot on Wallace was as dirty a shot as I’ve seen all year; I love Bynum’s game, but he should have been thrown out of the game. Bynum winds up and throws his elbow into Wallaces chest then acts like he doesn’t know what he just did. I’m sure he wasn’t thinking about hurting Wallace, but you can’t do that in the NBA; he practically punched Wallace in the chest, but it was ok because it happened in the flow of the game?

  90. snook says:

    TD stole millsap’s soul… twice

  91. Ian says:

    doc
    really ill take finals mvp over 2nd team all nba
    parker is more effective period btw sorry i posted late

  92. doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:

    I’ll take that too Ian.Just stating he has big time accomplishments as well.I also put making the new Dream Team an accomplishment.Hey we beg to differ.Im confident when Timmy retire and D-Will is mopping the floor with the Spurs people will change their minds.@ranger-U know FG% and shit like that goes up when u have a dominant big.And he has the most dominant in the game.

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