NBA / Jan 7, 2009 / 3:43 pm

One Player, One Bucket

KobeKobe Bryant (photo. Chris Sembrot)

If for no other reason, you have to envy L.A. Lakers fans for one thing: They don’t know the abject fear and nausea that comes with having their team clinging to a slim lead in crunch time and seeing Kobe Bryant wearing the bad guy’s costume, looking to strike a dagger.

Hornets fans re-familiarized themselves with that feeling last night, when Kobe knocked down a trio of three-pointers in a 90-second stretch of the third quarter — which would have been the game’s decisive sequence had the Hornets not been able to limit him to just two points in the fourth. Grizzlies fans knew it a few weeks ago, when their fourth-quarter lead disappeared thanks to Kobe’s multi-faceted attack of long-range, low-post and off-the-dribble buckets. As a Sonics fan, I knew the feeling on numerous occasions over the years, and even after adopting the Pacers this season, felt it again last month when Kobe delivered his patented mid-range pull-up in the final minute, which would have won the game were it not for Troy Murphy‘s miracle tip-in.

Notice how two of the three games just mentioned were L.A. losses, one of them was a win against a Lottery team, and all of them took place over the past five weeks? The point is that Kobe’s ability to come up with clutch buckets in any arena, against any opponent, on any day, isn’t just relegated for high-profile games and postseason battles; even in the most forgettable regular-season contest, he’s the most dangerous man in the League, never playing particularly up or down to his competition. Except for a few notable instances, he’s the same predatory threat every night.

I’m a full-fledged D-Wade supporter, an advocate for the much-maligned Vince and T-Mac, a 100% Duncan loyalist and part-time Dirk apologist. And in three to five years, I can foresee a League in which we’re having this same discussion about Brandon Roy or LeBron. But if I had to take one guy to get one bucket with everything on the line, I’d pick Kobe. And right now, there’s really not a solid argument you can make for anyone else.

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  • http://GEE2.COM GEE…had to back up off it and set my cup down!

    Ian I ain’t saying you do that. I am also not saying best sg, I have heard cats say he is in the top 3 to 5 in the L.

    Granted we all do go a bit overboard with our favorite players, and I am guilty as well. Still I feel there is a point where certain people step off in the fantasy realm of what they wish and what is not true.

    Again I really liked Manu and honestly still privately do lol. It’s just I can’t take when anyone takes a player Kobe or Manu and make them more than they are.

    For Kobe I hate when people act like dude has no weakness at all. Let me not say hate, I dislike.

    I mean even with me being a T-Mac fan I also clown dude and bash him when he isn’t up to standard. Yet, even in my support I am not going to say something crazy to the point of T-Mac should get MVP votes this year. That is when it’s just too beyond for me.

    Way to point out your standard of clutch AB. I like when lines are clearly defined for a debate. Makes it easier.

    I am so hurtin right now, Stafford and Moreno both left Georgia. I am hurtin…unless 1 of the 2 or both go to Denver!

  • dh

    You’ve all got to admit that to opposing oaches, players, & fans, Kobe may be the most feared opponent whether the game is on the line or not. I think that was Austin’s main point.

    Kobe makes two shots in a row, I know the opposing fans get worried.

  • http://GEE2.COM GEE…had to back up off it and set my cup down!

    dh I got to agree. Even with two shots in a row, I start to go “Oh boy he is startin to feel it” and it could be further from the truth but he commands and demands that respect in the game based on what he has and can do.

    Most time when he is playin the Rockets I am hopin someone doesn’t do something to piss him off or motivate him. Kobe clearly is that dude.

    1 is not a discussion. It’s 2 that is more of the debate.

  • dmitry of jersey

    GEE: did you just say Vince makes good decisions with the ball in the ends of close games? try to let his game winners from meaningless regular season games slide and watch the Nets in the playoffs. I want vince to do well bc i follow the nets, but he makes dumbass decisions CONSTANTLY in a 7gm series when the other team puts their focus on stopping him.

    LakeShow etc: I’m not gona regurgitate my opinion of kobe. I think kobe is a great player but he’s also an ass and too reliant on his fadeaway… which could be (and has been) a toxic combination against a quality defense. (of course not to K Dizzle who thinks one regular season game is more important than what happened in the finals last year).

    in my opinion the most clutch player in the league, if we’re going to follow Austin’s definition, is Tim Duncan.

  • dmitry of jersey

    ..i just realized i DID regurgitate my opinions on kobe. oops.

  • Ian

    lakeshow
    whatt comon making the playoffs is nothing more than half the teams make the playoffs. pierce did make the ecf also with a shitty team. what i was tryin to say is that u cant say one is better because of the other its the same for the three of them not what u said about pierce.

    gee
    i know u didnt mention me but i posted because almost everyone know here im the biggest manu supporter here. i agree with everything u said but u know what i mean when i say manu is a top 5 sg (not player just sg) every manu hater starts posting crap here and i know uve read it. i hate that making a player more than they are also but like i said we all kinda do it we just gotta keep it kinda real and for me to say manu top sg isnt crazy.

  • Ian

    gee
    kobe is the best sg and a top 3 player overall but comon he more weaknesses than the other top 2 players
    duncan free throws
    bron Jumper
    kobe ballhog mode , fade away only mode, fuck my teammates mode

    dimitry
    duncan is clutch as hell i dont remember who said this i think it was gee a while back or dizzle , duncan is clutch because he does shit in crunch time he isnt supposed to do. we rarely see duncan making mistakes and that dude can score alot when needed

  • Ian

    btw wheres doug
    he would love this article

  • http://GEE2.COM GEE…had to back up off it and set my cup down!

    Ok Ian seriously speaking… No it’s not crazy to say Manu is like that, cause he is SG wise. If it’s based on what’s presented cause everything else is if. So yea on that basis, and that is all you can base it on, he is.

    I think the main thing is what you said last we (all fans) just really need to keep it real as possible with their favorite player or who they support.

    A little give-way is cool but don’t put them where even kids know they don’t belong

    dmitry I can give you that about a 7 game series with Vince. Something about the playoffs just do something to some dudes lol.

    Still, yea I was going off regular season more, but even in playoffs at this point I believe he could and I want him to come through.

  • Ian

    yeah of course no ifs (i call it the tmac game).

    hey vince has had good playoff performances before
    didnt he beat miami on a buzzer beater than bounced from everywhere (lucky i know) no but seriously he was awesome in toronto

  • http://GEE2.COM GEE…had to back up off it and set my cup down!

    Hahaha just know if one of the if’s ever come true in regards to T-Mac.

    Look Out! LOL

    I am out yall be good!
    1

    Pac-Man Jones just got released from the Cowboys. Bout time!

  • Promethean

    Kobe has been my favourite player for awhile and Dime often makes reference to the killer instinct look he gets during games, he may not be hitting too many buzzer beaters this season (because he’s sitting out the 4th), but I will always have an enormous amount of respect for someone who comes out and says this:

    Dime #22 Interview
    “When we play on the road and the entire crowd is booing me it doesn’t bother me at all. What I think about is simple: “When these fans leave this game I want them to remember how hard I fought and the passion and drive with which I played.” I have always played this game with passion. And I always worked hard. When I saw the movie Rudy I remember thinking, “what if I worked that hard?” God has blessed me both physically and intellectually to play this game, so what would happen if I push as hard as the character in this film? I would love for people to think of me as a talented overachiever. Even though those fans may chant ‘Kobe sucks’ when they leave that arena I want them to walk out with a different feeling than they came in with. When they leave they’ll leave with the understanding that they have just witnessed a player give himself completely to his passion; they have just watched an athlete pour every ounce of his heart and soul out on that floor. And hopefully, when the next volume of my life is all said and done, they will respect and appreciate the years that I spent giving all of me to the game that means everything to me.”

  • Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09)

    Anyone who says Lebron is clutch needs to watch the first game of the season against the Celtics when he missed two “clutch free throws”

  • UncheckedAggression

    Another perfect example of Kobe’s greatness being exaggerated. You guys are all over a guy that routinely shoots his team out of games. If he kept his head (and knew when to make the extra pass) then the Lakers would be in an even better position than they are now. Luckily for the league, Kobe has never taken that next step.

    Most of the Lakers losses this season have come because Kobe decided to try to be the hero. Why didn’t he try to do that in the finals last year? You know, when it really mattered?

    There was an article out earlier this season that analyzed which players were “clutch.” 82games.com did the stats. Some of you may want to look it up.

  • heartbreaker85

    game on the line players?

    1. kobe
    2. wade
    3. vince (you saw how nasty clutch he was vs the raps and hawks this year? damn)
    4. melo
    5. lebron and his crab dribble

  • George W Kush Sr

    Where is doug?

    He probably busted a nut as soon as he read the post.

    Poor kid didn’t even get a chance to give Kobe some E-Head.

    Clutch players also have to include Duncan. Have to include Melo. Have to include Pierce.

    How was Kobe a great teammate in the playoffs against Phoenix? Where was he against the C’s last year?

    There’s lots of players that I’m worried if they got the last shot against my team. Manu will hit that 3 in pressure. A healthy Arenas will shoot the ball backwards from halfcourt if that’s the only look he’s getting, and I’d be worried he makes it too.

    I’ll give the Kobe lovers this, he is the best 2 way player in the league, he’s the best all around player in the league. But there are power moves and other freakishly athletic things that Lebron and Dwight do that Kobe simply cant. Accept it. Lear to live with it. For God’s sake when will you finally deal with it? He’s not MJ and he will never be considered as great as him, so stop trying to act like he’s greater than him.

  • http://www.alltexasforums.com rangerjohn

    i would have said duncan until he missed the lay-up against the bucks the other night, and i would have said manu but he is not “manu” right now and who knows when he is going to get back to the old manu (not old like he is an old man but old like 6th man manu)

    so as much as i hate to say it, kobe has to be the guy

  • vinny

    i’ll take vince

  • Martin
  • Illmatic

    Why is it that people can’t like Kobe AND Lebron? I’m a die-hard King James fan, but I can definitely appreciate Kobe’s talent and what he’s done for the game. But it seems like a lot of people, not just on this site, pick one and then absolutely trash the other.

    They’re apples and oranges anyways, their games are completely different.

  • Illmatic

    Oh, and by the way, Lebron isn’t clutch? You could argue that he isn’t the best for “One player, One Bucket”, but didn’t he lead the league in 4th quarter points last year?

    And what about Game 5 against the Pistons in ’06 when he dropped 45, and scored his team’s last 25 points or so and singlehandedly willed the Cavs to victory against a vastly superior Pistons team?

    You also gotta remember, dude’s only like 24 or 25

  • CrunchTime

    Agree with those who choose Pierce. If the argument is for the one bucket, one guy situation, Pierce is the man. He doesn’t PLAY around with his move like Kobe. Pierce has the body, height, and length to get a quicker shot and can pound it in better than Kobe. Kobe has trouble with heavier defenders as well as longer-limbed ones. One bucket, One guy-Pierce. Better player-tie, more accomplishments-Kobe, and Finals record versus each other-Pierce 1 Kobe 0.

  • ROBBIE

    IF YOU GUYS COULD PLEASE HELP ME WITH YOUR KNOWLEDGE ABOUT THIS ARGUMENT I HAVE WITH MY FRIEND. HE SAID THAT LEBRON JAMES ONLY HAS HAD 1 GAME WINNING BASKET IN HIS CAREER AND I HIGHLY DOUBTED THAT SO I DECIDED TO BET HIM AND I HAPPEND TO FIND ONE SITE TO KIND OF PROVE IT BUT HE DOEST BELIEVE ME SO YOU GUYS TELL ME DOES LEBRON THE KING JAMES REALLY ONLY HAVE 1 GAME WINNING BASKET IN HIS NBA CAREER?

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