Amare Trade Rumors UPDATED
AmareWe hit you with this rumor a little ways back, but now it’s apparently taken the next step towards being a real possibility.
The Portland Trail Blazers have made a strong play for Amare Stoudemire, discussing a package that includes LaMarcus Aldridge, Jerryd Bayless, and Raef LaFrentz‘s $12.7 million expiring contract, a person with direct knowledge of the talks told CBSSports.com Tuesday.
The Blazers, among the most active teams in the league as the Feb. 19 trade deadline draws near, have joined Chicago, Miami, Detroit, Toronto, Golden State, and New Jersey among a growing list of teams that have discussed acquiring Stoudemire from the Suns.
However, there could be a kink in this plan. There’s supposedly an issue between Steve Kerr and Suns’ managing partner Robert Sarver as to what they want to get in return for STAT.
If Phoenix was able to get the aforementioned three players along with a draft pick or two (Portland has four second-rounders in the next two years), this deal could make sense for the Suns. As much as I wanted Goran Dragic to succeed as Steve Nash‘s backup, he’s been awful. Jerryd Bayless could really benefit from learning under Nash as the point guard of the future. L.A.’s preference for playing away from the basket could compliment Shaq nicely right now, and LaFrentz’s contract will give Phoenix mobility in the free agent markets to come.
Do you like this deal for both sides?
Source: CBS Sports
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February 11th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
Phung says:
Love this deal!
February 11th, 2009 at 2:13 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
This is the only trade rumor that makes any sense for phx.
Like it for both sides.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
PALakerFan says:
Wow! What a dumb move by Portland! Abandoning the great team first mentality you have for a me-first guy like Amare is a very bad decision and would hurt the development of both Roy and Oden.
Portland should pass.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Portland, don’t do it! Personally I’d rather have Aldridge then Amare.
Instead, Portland should trade Rafe’s expiring contract, Outlaw or Webster (preferably Webster), and maybe a throw-in player to the Wizards for Caron Butler. I think Caron would improve the Blazers more than Amare.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:15 pm
Scott says:
It’s the perfect package, I wish Toronto could take it for Bosh.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
Steve Gomez 10a-2p on Hot 104.7 Modesto, Ca says:
Actually I think the Suns get too much in this proposed deal. L.A., Bayless, Raef’s expiring, and picks??? I’d do L.A. OR Bayless and whatever else to make the salaries match but not both.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
rudderband man says:
NO! Keep STAT and trade Nash and/or Shaq while they still have a some sort of value!
February 11th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
PALakerFan says:
Chicago would be dumb to trade Tyrus Thomas for Amare as well. Thomas is just now discovering how good he can be. Amare IS as good as he can be and has proven to be a lazy rebounder and shitty defender.
Any team thinking of trading for him should realize he’s Phx’s best player and they want rid of him badly. That should make any GM think about what they’re really getting.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
David Brandon says:
the thing about this, is that it actually does make sense. and for both teams. esp if amare doesnt wanna be there. why not get some good young players in return. i like jerryd’s game a lot and think he’d be a good fit in phx.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
@ David Brandon
Yeah it makes sense for Phoenix but how does it make sense for Portland?
February 11th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
dennis says:
maybe we should throw in roy while we are at it.stat aint worth half that deal. His attitude is the posterchild for what we left behind when we started to build on character.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
vasco says:
He should go to Miami because he will play with Wade and that will be just magnificent those two guys plus Chalmers and Beasly…..
February 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
hahns says:
talent wise makes a ton of sense….bayless can contribute immediately and LA would fit well w/ shaq…but from a chemistry standpoint i wouldnt disrput what portland has right now. honestly id much rather trade oden than LA if i was portland.
and you trade a good locker room guy for a prima donna.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
Scott says:
To those who think Amare’s attitude will hurt the team, any other squad I’d be right there with you, but my belief in Nate McMillian as a coach has me thinking Amare would respect him enough to buy into the system. I don’t think anyone in Phoenix respects Terry Porter, and it shows, when Nash is quietly questioning a coach to the media (his too many minutes comment) you know its a managerial problem.
Personally I believe the Suns are going to have to rid themselves of the D’Antoni era players to ever have a good locker room situation, it seems like those guys are disgruntled with Porter, Kerr and Sarver.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
rob stewart says:
perfect trade for everyone. Get it done!!
February 11th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Thank you Dennis. STAT ain’t worth it.
It seems like the Blazers think they have a shot at winning the chip this year and are trying for a desperate blockbuster trade to push them over the top. This will go down as one of the worst trades ever if it goes down.
Patience Portland. Keep the team you have and build on that. You’ll be just fine.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:25 pm
A$$Cube aka Just Do It! says:
I really think the Suns cannot find a better deal than this one. Aldridge would fit in nicely there. Bayless is still a project but who’s better than Nash to teach the kid how to run a team? Plus the almost immediate cap relief given by LaFrentz’s expiring is pure gold for Sarver.
Portland HAS to do this deal too. Amaré AND Oden altogether? Come on! Plus, they have a logjam of (young) guards and Steve Blake can still do his thing while Rodriguez is finally getting it.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
@PALakerfan you have to realize there are other reasons why phx is shopping stat. Namely, financial reasons given the owners of the suns come from banking money and they are hurting bad.
So its not all attitude and lack of D.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:35 pm
Duke says:
STAT is just a byproduct of the D’Antoni era.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
Shakers says:
Portland is a nice spot for Amare. His defensive problems can be masked with Oden blocking shots behind him. Brandon Roy and Amare running high screen and rolls could be deadly.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
PALakerFan says:
The other teams listed – MIA, DET, NJ, TOR, GS – should definitely go for Amare though. They are all going nowhere fast and could use him.
MIA – Beasley’s too small to be effective at the 4 and presumably they’d rather keep him and send Marion for Amare.
DET – Veteran’s Day Sale! Take either one of our fine old guys – AI or Wallace – and we’ll throw in this slighty used Amir Johnson, but only if you call in the next 10 minutes.
NJ – Let’s be real, Devin Harris is the only keeper on this squad. Combining him with Amare would really sell tickets at the new arena and maybe get them back on the map for Lebron in ’10.
TOR – Swap meet! Swap the unhappy Bosh for the unhappy Amare. This makes the most sense of any deal. Bosh is the more complete player and would be a perfect fit beside Fat Shaq. Amare could score 30 a game in TOR and get the individual accolades he craves so much.
GS – You’ve just won the Warrior sweepstakes! Choose 3 out of 4 of our best players and we’ll throw in 2 draft picks with your order! You can even have our dis-interested coach or lame duck GM!
February 11th, 2009 at 2:40 pm
George W Kush Sr says:
Phoenix should take this trade in a heart beat.
Portland needs to put the weed down and reconsider. How is it any better to have Amare next to Oden compared to Shaq? Oden has to clog up the lane just like Shaq, so Amare is not going to be any happier or playing any better.
L.A’s style is perfect for Oden or Shaq, why trade that away, with Bayless, for something that wont workout?
This is a stupid trade, but Kerr should take before Portland realizes what they’re giving up.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:46 pm
PALakerFan says:
Max – if money is the issue, then Shaq should be first to go. Call Cuban, he’ll take him. And is there any doubt the Knicks would take Nash?
All in all, PHX is badly mismanaged. Kerr and Porter both need to go too. They need to get a young nucleus to build around in trading any of these 3 “stars”.
Flip would’ve been a better choice at coach.
February 11th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
rlf says:
portland would be crazy to let a guy like lamarcus go. amare is an awesome player, but he is not very stable mentally. and he wants to be ‘the man’ which he won’t be, because brandon roy is ‘the man’ in portland.
i don’t like the deal at all.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Arrogant says:
Suns wont make a trade til after the all star game, out of respect of being a all-star. but i wish the bulls would go after him. instead of tyrus i say give up noah and gooden. throw in another… maybe Larry Hughes who wants to be traded and bam a run and gun team
Rose
gordon
deng
tyrus
Stoudamire
Bench
Thabo
Hinirich
Gray
Nocioni
Man than team right there is young deep and growing and have leadership and potential.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Big Shot BOB says:
This trade works out good for both teams but I still like my suggestion of trading Amare for Dirk and maybe JET. Same kinda idea but Dirk is a better shooter than L.A. and Jet could spell Nash.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:04 pm
Kobeef says:
This seems like a wash for Portland (elite young PF for elite young PF) and doesn’t make much sense at all for PHX
Nash and Shaq are in the “win now or retire” phase of their careers and Aldridge is still 3-5 years away from reaching his prime. PHX needs players in their prime. Even Amare is still 2 years away from his prime which is ewhy he is not a perfect fit in PHX.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
IG says:
Trying to improve the Blazers? What about Oden for Durant?
February 11th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
@Palakerfan
Ya, I agree w you about the poor mgt in phx.
I’m not sure shaq has much value and the Knicks are trying to clear room not take on big deals…
February 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Kobeef says:
@Big Shot BOB
I really like the idea of Dirk for Amare.
Dirk is a better compliment to Shaq and Dirk and Nash together again would be AWESOME.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
dagwaller says:
Ugh. I kind of like this deal for both sides, but I hate that it’s really the end of the fun Phoenix era. Not that it hasn’t been over for about a year now.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
P Goh says:
I can’t believe that Portland would even consider this trade. They are giving up way too much. Is Amare that much of an upgrade over Lamarcus? Maybe a little but Lamarcus is still young and developing and compliments Oden well. He’s definitely not worth trading bayless, an expiring contract and draft picks. I’d rather have bosh than amare.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
PALakerFan says:
Arrogant – I like your optomism but 3 role players does not equal 1 All-Star. Unless you’re dealing with Memphis, that is. They’d give you a dime for a nickel cause the nickel’s bigger.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
markofresh says:
Amare can only go to a team that can pass him the ball right in his hands like nash.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Arrogant says:
PALakerFan- Drew Gooden is an expiriing contract… something that they want. Noah Is defense and youth which they also are trying to move toward. as for Hughes his contract is up next year which will be a great trade peice if they want to trade him or let him expire for the 2010 free agent contest…
of course throw in a pick but its all possible nowadays.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:41 pm
srsly says:
Portland needs to fire the GM before he blows up what he’s made. Championship teams need *some* stability, for crying out loud…
February 11th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
Lee says:
Can people stop coming up with stupid trade … Amare for Marion (Phx just got rid of Marion) Amare for Tyrus Thomas (Missing about $10 mill in contract) Amare for Noah + Gooden (What a crap trade talent wise
Lets think before we post people.
February 11th, 2009 at 3:48 pm
Shakazulu12 says:
Portland would be crazy to mess with their chemistry right now, and Amare is not a good fit for their team. Pheonix should be all over this deal though if they could pull it off.
Portland doesn’t need any changes, they just need time. I don’t understand why they don’t just let Raef’s contract expire. They are going to have to shell out some big bucks in a few years with Roy, Aldridge, and eventually Oden.
February 11th, 2009 at 4:03 pm
Arrogant says:
Anything is possible now…. Swear lopsided trades to get rid of dough hasn’t happend lately…. camby for a second, kwame Brown for Gasol, Zach Randolf for Mobley whose retired tim thomas…. Its not all about equal talent anymore. if u have youth and expiring contract u have a edge…
February 11th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
dat dude says:
Phoenix gets the guard of the future in bayless, and Portland gets a higher ceiling. Do it, but Portland will regret it cuz bayless will be a star, but they need to do it cuz Portland can’t get much better with what they got. I like aldridge but he is limited and needs a big to play with like shaq. I don’t like amare but with their roster he could help them more than hurt.
February 11th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Rich says:
As a fan, I’d rather see Amare go to the Bulls or the Cavs. The bulls bc they’ve got a great foundation and a point guard in Rose who will be as great for him as Nash has been in Phoenix. But my ultimate pick is the Cavs, Amare + Lebron = AWESOME!
Interestingly enough, they Cavs and the Suns play tonight. Should be really interesting. I’ve been checking this site (www.accuscore.com – very cool site, check it out!) that says that the Cavs will win and has Lebron lighting it up for 33 and Amare with 19. I wonder what they could do together…
February 11th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Is that Bill Bellamy or Amare in the picture with this post?
February 11th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
Kermit the Washington says:
Amare’s stock seems to be dropping…
February 11th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Jay says:
The blazers should trade Lafrentz, Frye, Outlaw, a pg and a 2nd round pick package for Butler and Etan Thomas.
OR Odom and Luke Walton.
OR Battier and Chuck Hayes.
Please NOT Amar’e!!!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:34 pm
Jay says:
The blazers should add Ike Diogu to any deal they make!
February 11th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
johnny says:
+1 for what in the crap is Portland smoking?
February 11th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
Sheedfan87 says:
As a Blazers fan, I don’t really like it. Sure Amare’s the best player, but what he’d have to understand is this is Brandon Roy’s team. I’m also a big Aldridge fan and don’t like the idea of letting Bayless go so early.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
Kudabeen says:
Amare makes Portland a real team to fear. I think both teams will benefit, but Portland right away. Portland’s front line need a guy that is going to get other bigs in foul trouble. Phoenix is going to open up things for LaMarcus a bit more. His stats aren’t that far off of what Amare was doing this year.
Bayless I’m not sure. I like when he is attacking and spotting up, but will Terry Porter give him a little freedom to disrupt?
I think Portland comes out better short term and Phoenix will probably miss the playoffs with this deal. They just aren’t playing with much zeal these days.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:06 pm
Kudabeen says:
Also Brandon Roy is not a guy that needs to have anyone bow down and pronounce him as the Top Dog…He is going to do his thing. He will have the ball in his hands the most. Amare will be forced to go to work more down low with out the Pick and Roll/Pop preceision that he had with Nash. Portland will be much better with Amare over Aldridge…Amare isn’t a beast on the boards either, but if Oden is going to keep getting in foul trouble and Joel is not a threat on offense…Amare is a great constant to have. This makes Blazers a contender in my eyes. They was missing that real one two punch…Amare and Roy is that.
We all know their role players are good as well. Is Martell coming back this year??
February 11th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
karizmatic says:
This is a good deal, especially for the Suns.
February 11th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
tim says:
I’d rather see Sheed in PHX so that I can see STAT in a Pistons uniform…
February 11th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
tim says:
and why would they trade Amare within the West, where they’d have to deal with him?
February 11th, 2009 at 6:22 pm
parinaz suns says:
NO! if the first two big trades did not work why would the third? every time we trade we get lower in the standings. that dumb freckled devil kerr
February 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
jace says:
if Phoenix can get away with this deal… GO FOR IT!
but.. i do not like this deal for the blazers… this gives phoenix exactly wut they need.. a pg for the future.. and a legitimate power forward that could potentially be an all-star.. by the time nash and shaq leave.. this guy is their go-to guy.
doesnt make sense for the blazers tho..
February 11th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Mikey P says:
Its really not a good deal for Portland
1) Amare is good but he isn’t as good as a defender as LA.
2) Brandon Roy is the leader on The Blazers and the teams best player. So even if Amare leaves, he doesn’t get what he wants
3)The blazers are giving up an expiring Contract and the point gaurd of the Future. I don’t think people realize how good Bayless can be in the league. He reminds me of a young more athletic Gilbert Arenas with more Defensive potential.
the blazers would be gambling on what could be a future dynasty, we’ve seen how good Amare is in the system that best suits him, he isn’t a half court player and yet they couldn’t win. The blazers could win 50 games easily with the current roster they have and with the trade they lose talent and an expiring contract which can be used to resign a young player.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:16 pm
britrad332 says:
portland,
When you mess with chemistry, it can explode.
February 11th, 2009 at 9:18 pm
added says:
fuck no! amare aint worth all that…
LA will be an all-star, sky’s the limit for bayless and that lafrentz expiring contract is hella valuable…plus they gotta give away some picks!
and for what? a guy who cries about his shots and cant play any defense? a guy who should be hoovering rebounds but doesnt have the heart to?
February 11th, 2009 at 9:34 pm
wanabballer says:
I agree that the suns should take this offer. My only reason for why the Blazers are offering the package – Suns just said “remember that gift we gave you in Rudy Fernandez?!?”
February 11th, 2009 at 9:46 pm
Kody says:
DO IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! are you kiddin…good trade…amare and oden. honestly…what more do ya want!
February 11th, 2009 at 10:48 pm
dapro says:
If Portland is seriously trying to keep GO and build with him and Roy then I wouldn’t make this deal
Acquiring STAT hurts Odens growth as a player on both ends of the court
GO already stays in foul trouble, getting STAT means more fouls from the weak side if Portland doubles or GO goes for a block
February 12th, 2009 at 12:56 am
BEdger says:
I can’t believe anyone actually believe this load of crap. There is no way in hell Portland would make this trade. The fact that DIME even posts this is crazy, Amare doesn’t fit the “culture” in Portland and the Blazers only want team first guys. Amare is a me first guy if there ever was one.
February 12th, 2009 at 1:01 am
eric lopez says:
4 way trade
the perfect trade
This Trade Succeeded! Go back to adjust your trade or start over.
Dallas Mavericks
Incoming Players
Leandro Barbosa
Salary: $6,100,000 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 12.9 REB: 2.4 AST: 1.8 PER: 18.63
Mark Blount
Salary: $8,513,916 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 4.0 REB: 1.9 AST: 0.2 PER: 9.31
Shaquille O’Neal
Salary: $21,000,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.5 REB: 9.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 21.66
Dallas gets point guard that fits better gets shaq to make a run in playoffs and 29 mill off the books in 2010,the kidd trade never worked out for dallas
Outgoing Players: Josh Howard, Jason Kidd
Miami Heat
Incoming Players
Josh Howard
Salary: $9,945,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 17.9 REB: 5.0 AST: 1.7 PER: 16.26
Jermaine O’Neal
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 13.7 REB: 7.0 AST: 1.6 PER: 16.35
Amare Stoudemire
Salary: $15,070,550 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 20.8 REB: 8.2 AST: 2.0 PER: 20.14
Matt Barnes
Salary: $797,581 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 9.5 REB: 5.2 AST: 2.1 PER: 11.26
Obtained with a trade exception
Miami gets alot of talent and an automatic fav in the east …. forget 2010 if you get rid of beasley we make a run now …
Outgoing Players: Mark Blount, Shawn Marion, Daequan Cook, Udonis Haslem, Michael Beasley
Phoenix Suns
Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30
Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45
Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29
Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20
Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85
suns get rid of alot of money and they gain a kidd expiring contract and they get young talent plus a plus future miami 1st and 2 round pick
Outgoing Players: Leandro Barbosa, Jason Richardson, Shaquille O’Neal, Grant Hill, Amare Stoudemire, Matt Barnes
Toronto Raptors
Incoming Players
Shawn Marion
Salary: $17,810,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 12.0 REB: 8.7 AST: 1.8 PER: 15.78
Jason Richardson
Salary: $12,222,221 Years Remaining: 3
PTS: 16.8 REB: 4.4 AST: 2.2 PER: 15.72
Grant Hill
Salary: $1,976,400 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 11.0 REB: 4.8 AST: 1.8 PER: 14.46
raptors get better with this trade get a scoring guard which they lack , would fit better with bosh and 20 mill off the books with marion contract…
Outgoing Players: Jermaine O’Neal, Anthony Parker
February 12th, 2009 at 7:33 am
redstorm11 says:
what dime? no mention that the suns said no chance in hell to the knicks?
February 12th, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Desrat says:
Portland needs to stop this ish right now.
I think that LA is hard player to coach. Seperating him from McMillian could ruin the chances he has of becoming the player that he could be. LA could easily be a much better player than STAT, mostly because he is more coachable. Put a kid like LA in PHX and we all won’t get to see what he can become. I think it was in Dime that I read about McMillian calling up the LA while watchin gLeBron do his thing. LA later said that while talking with his coach and watching that game he began to understand how important it is to be a two way player; Anybody think that conversation (or even the coach’s call) would have happened with Amare?
February 12th, 2009 at 5:54 pm
Big Shot BOB says:
@ Eric Lopez that’s one of the dumbest trades ever suggested in the history of basketball. Let’s just trade every player on every team to another team…WTF
February 12th, 2009 at 7:48 pm
Eric says:
“Incoming Players
Daequan Cook
Salary: $1,273,200 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.3 REB: 2.5 AST: 1.1 PER: 11.30
Udonis Haslem
Salary: $6,575,000 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 10.8 REB: 8.4 AST: 1.3 PER: 13.45
Jason Kidd
Salary: $21,372,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 8.9 REB: 6.3 AST: 8.4 PER: 17.29
Michael Beasley
Salary: $4,314,960 Years Remaining: 2
PTS: 13.2 REB: 5.2 AST: 0.9 PER: 15.20
Anthony Parker
Salary: $4,550,000 Years Remaining: 1
PTS: 10.3 REB: 3.7 AST: 3.3 PER: 11.85
”
You think the suns want this garbage (besides Beez)
for Shaq, Amare, LB & Barnes?
Jesus, yeah let’s pair nash & kid… retarded.
February 12th, 2009 at 10:35 pm
Scott says:
Sounds like the Dime is like the national inquirer. There is no way Portland would make this trade! False! Made up!! Retarded!!
February 13th, 2009 at 6:59 pm
victor says:
@ eric lopez
U are the most retarded person ever, why in the world would the suns trade their entire team fir shitty players, if u don’t know way u are talking about it’s better that u don’t talk, I say that the suns fire terry porter and Steve kerr instead