Westside Slaughterhouse
Kobe Bryant (photo. Chris Sembrot)OK, here’s what was supposed to happen Monday night: The Lakers, still reeling from the news that Andrew Bynum could be done for the season, zombie-walk through a loss to the Knicks at MSG where Josh Powell and Lamar Odom are the only guys who seem happy to be there. Meanwhile, with their toughest competition in the conference significantly weakened, the Spurs would roll into Oracle Arena and go all James Harrison on the Warriors just to show what the rest of the West has to deal with from here on out … Here’s what actually happened Monday night: The Spurs, for the most part, were uncharacteristically bad in every aspect of the game you’d expect them to dominate (coaching, defense, execution) and had their hands full with Golden State down to the wire. As for the Lakers, everyone forgot about Bynum for a few hours while Kobe Bryant turned in one of the great single-game performances we’ve seen over the last decade … Kobe dropped 61 points in only 37 minutes (19-31 FG, 20-20 FT), breaking the MSG scoring record previously held by Bernard King (60). Q-Rich initially drew the assignment of guarding Kobe, but when it became very clear he was overmatched, Wilson Chandler took over and spent the rest of the night (with a little bit of Jared Jeffries thrown in) being made to look like an overly-tatted Byron Russell. Mamba had them all on puppet strings, drawing fouls whenever he wanted and getting space for pull-up J’s whenever he wanted. Going into the fourth quarter he had 46, and at some points decided he wasn’t passing anymore. Whether the goal was 50, Mike’s double-nickel, or 60, the only times Kobe gave it up down the stretch was so he could get it right back and start the demolition process over again … Of course it helped that the Knicks’ D is atrocious. And we’re not just gonna throw Q-Rich, Chandler and Jeffries under the bus; nobody in white was guarding anybody in purple, and Mike D’Antoni didn’t start double-teaming Kobe until he’d already hit the 52-point mark and the Knicks were already getting the 20-piece McNugget. Clyde Frazier had to pull “meandering” out of the vocabulary closet to describe New York’s going-through-the-motions style … The crowd — many of them chanting “M-V-P” and wearing L.A. jerseys — gave Kobe a standing O after Phil Jackson took him out with a couple minutes left, but did you see Chris Mihm and DJ Mbenga on the bench? No reaction at all. They acted like they were in the audience at a chess tournament … After it was over, a Spanish contingent of fans in the upper deck was going crazy for Pau Gasol. One Knicks fan yelled, “This isn’t a soccer game! Go home!” Classic. Too bad no one’s gonna remember that Pau put up 31 points and 14 boards. Now he knows how Al Jefferson feels every night … Right after the buzzer, New York’s sideline reporter pulled aside Odom (14 rebs, 3 blks), and you could see in his face the moment he realized he was only going to be asked about three things: Kobe, Bynum, and what it was like to be back in his native NYC. Lamar answered with about as much enthusiasm as you’d expect … Dime’s Aron Phillips was in the building for The Kobe Show, along with Jay-Z, Spike Lee, Cheech & Chong, Mariano Rivera, John McEnroe and Whoopi Goldberg. (Could “Eddie” have helped D’Antoni with some defensive schemes?) Look for AP to provide some more behind-the-scene analysis of Kobe’s big game later this morning …
Stephen JacksonAs for the Spurs, they fell behind in the second quarter after Gregg Popovich oddly decided to go with a small lineup for a stretch and ended up watching Stephen Jackson score on post-up after post-up against the likes of Tony Parker and George Hill. The Warriors’ announcers were talking reckless about it, too: “You wanna go small? Against the Warriors? In Oracle Arena? OK!” one of them boasted. Dude had a point, but calm down; your squad is still stuck on 15 wins and we’re almost at All-Star Weekend … Golden State held onto the lead even after Pop scrapped the plan and went back to feeding Tim Duncan (32 pts, 15 rebs), thanks to a bunch of San Antonio turnovers (20) and some lackluster defense. But you know the Spurs don’t go away easy. After GS went up double-digits early in the fourth quarter, the Spurs went on a 12-0 run, capped by Parker’s one-man fast break layup — with crazy English and a “kiss” that would make Bill Raftery smile — that tied it up. After Monta and S-Jack (33 pts, 11 asts, 4 stls) put GS back up by four, Manu Ginobili (32 pts) took over the final minute. Using every bit of his dribble-drive skills and acting ability, Manu got to the line on back-to-back possessions, hitting the game-tying free throws with eight seconds left after drawing a shady foul on Ronny Turiaf. All of the Warriors were livid (the announcers called it “pathetic” and “a gift”), and S-Jack got even angrier after he wasn’t able to get a call on Bruce Bowen on his unsuccessful game-winning attempt. In overtime the Warriors just seemed deflated, and even after Duncan fouled out, couldn’t keep up and took the L … You know how some old-school dads will do the “I’ll give you something to cry about” routine? Corey Maggette was apparently out to give Manu something to really flop about. On one possession in the first half, Maggette was trying to post up Manu and twice slammed a shoulder square into his chest. The first time Manu took the blow and backed up; the second time he dropped like he’d been hit by a bus, but we don’t even think he was flopping. Maggette hit him hard … Suns/Kings wasn’t even a contest. Phoenix won by 48, led by Amare’s 25 points and Jason Richardson’s 24. On the Suns’ last possession before halftime, Steve Nash ran a pick-and-roll with Louis Amundson, and Amundson crushed one on Spencer Hawes. As the Phoenix bench exploded (Robin Lopez is becoming one of our favorite bench cheerleaders), the play-by-play guy screamed “SWEET LOU!” … On Sacramento’s last possession before the half, John Salmons drew a foul right at the buzzer, and after a video review and discussion, the refs awarded him two free throws. After the Phoenix play-by-play guy asked, “Does it even mean anything at this point?” color analyst Eddie Johnson said, “It means something to Salmons. It means he can pad his stats.” … Two potentially major (non-Bynum) injuries to report: Chris Paul hurt his groin in the third quarter of Hornets/Blazers, after which N.O. totally fell apart, blowing a 17-point lead and losing a game in which Brandon Roy only had six points. And Jameer Nelson dislocated his right shoulder against the Mavs, a game the Magic lost without their floor leader. Both All-Stars will have MRI’s today, and we’ll let you know their status as soon as we know. The Fantasy Doctor will also have you covered from that angle in case you need to make some roster pickups … We’re out like Q-Rich …
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:15 am
Benoit Benjamin says:
Bryon, not Byron Russell. Other than that, great post as always.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:23 am
the cynic says:
Everyone copies the Lakers; first they trade for a star then everyone else trades for a star, now Bynum gets injuried and every other team injurys a player
NBA should change its name to Lakers Basketball Association
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:30 am
RonNation says:
Jazz big win missing 3 allstars.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:51 am
smity far away says:
too bad for jameer
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:00 am
Kobeef says:
Something tells me Kobe doesn’t mind stepping up to fill the void left by Bynum. It’s like when your boss asks you to take his Benz to the car wash and you try not to act too excited so he doesn’t realize what you’re going to do.
Question: Assuming that 40 wins is the threshold for making the playoffs in the west, the Warriors are now 6 losses from eliminating themselves from the playoffs. Do you void Monte’s contract and start rebuilding?
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:30 am
mavs all the way says:
a mavs win. yeeeeho!
it’s just getting started for the knicks. next up: LBJ. (and then the Celts). man. they might as well take back player of the week award from DLee now.
How do you think it would end up for the next two games? I’d say Cavs winning by 61, and the Celts winning by 61.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:33 am
mavs all the way says:
@ Kobeef
no of course not man. monta’s just warming up. wait till next season. wait until he destroys kobe and the lakers nest season.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:36 am
BENNYHILL says:
You have to feel for the Warriors tho… That foul they called on Turiaf was bullshit… Manu flopping again, kickin his legs out trying to draw contact that wasn’t even there
On the Warriors home court how do they make that call
Plus the whistle was about a second late
Tough loss
Also, S Jack had a guy wide open in the corner and chose to shoot himself anyway soooooo…..
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:40 am
AB_40 says:
kobe 61 amazing
but LA’s D? I thought that was gonna be their thing this season locking teams up. 117? against the knicks? that’s ugly, almost as ugly as new orleans falling apart. Travis Outlaw = CLUTCH the man scored the final 6 or 8 points for the blazers to close the game out.
Man too bad I missed ny lal I was wathcing how uconn took a dump on louisville
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:54 am
Kudabeen says:
If Bynum is hurt the way they say, why is he traveling with the team? Sitting on a plane and climbing stairs and all can’t help the knee…Oh Well…
Jameer loss is going to be a major blow…They don’t have another attacking guard and Turk can’t run a whole game, especially against a good defensive team…
Jameer’s All-star spot goes to Rondo or Ray Allen or Mo Williams?
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:00 am
Ross says:
What’s with all the Kobe love lately, Dime? You’re giving him more love than a recently released Laker’s cheerleader.
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:30 am
Kobeef says:
@Mavs
I don’t blame it all on the Warriors but this is their chance to admit the team is not a winner as constructed and take another try at it.
Cut Monta (-$11mill)
Trade S-Jax for expiring contracts and young talent (-$7Mill)
Hope Crawford opts out (-$9Mill)
Face that you are stuck with Maggette
Trade Biendris for an expiring contract or young talent (-$9Million)
= Warriors only have $20 Million in contracts in 2009-10 and a young core
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:09 am
rangerjohn says:
@#3 i completely agree, big win for the jazz but what 3 allstars do the jazz have that where missing? but then it was the bobcats.
i didnt get to watch the spurs last night so i cant comment much BUT i am sure the call wa completely justified! yall quite cryin!
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
control says:
The warriors might be the worst team in the NBA…they got 5 guys who do nothing but jack shots, they got like 9 guys who are 6′6-6′8 and do exactly the same thing at the same position. They have a nice team to throw into an AND1 tour, but they are horribly built for the NBA. When Dirk is able to absolutely beast you down low, and when Stephan Jackson of all people is your main facilitator…your team is completely FUBAR.
I asked this last nite, and I’ll ask it again. Why does Nate Robbinson shoot 14+ shots per game? Has he ever hit more than 50% of his shots in a game? Ever? Someone has to put the clamps on that lil’ midget.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:11 am
control says:
rangerjohn
You send flowers to your boy BJ during his hospital stay?
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
control says:
Just caught the replays for Manu’s flop at the end of that GS game…looked like Manu started to travel when Turiaf looked at him too hard. The result being that Manu did a superman jump into the crowd. Turiaf was coming from a completely different direction and Manu flew perpendicular to him…unless somehow Turiaf bent the laws of physics, it was a very very obvious flop.
Fuck the refs for letting Manu pull that bullshit.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:19 am
iannyb says:
aight so my Lakers won,Kobe went off.31 shots………………okay.That sure aint where we wanna be when all is said and done,we need the team to roll.Our defense still is a mess,somebody say defensive specialist.how about prying that guy away from The Cletics.he seems to be pretty good.Didnt catch too much stuff from last night so I’m really a lil vague.Go Lakers
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:29 am
rangerjohn says:
he control,
havent you heard the news, GSP and his cornermen are being investigated by the NSAC for “greasing”, his cornerman was CAUGHT rubbing vasoline on his back between rounds. bj mentioned how slippery he was to the NSAC person at his corner between the next 2 rounds. he has a complaint from sean sherks people, AND matt serra’s people as well. the NSAC head guy at the fight was the one who SAW them do it between rounds 1 and 2. surprisingly BJ did pretty well in round 1 then started going down hill in round 2.
now that said, BJ had no chance, his cardio was TERRIBLE and gsp is just to big. the “grease” didnt make much difference but the principle of it should cost GSP SOMETHING! your gonna cheat, your gonna get caught some time and you WILL pay the price. even DANA was telling EVERYONE gsp is in trouble.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:31 am
fallinup says:
Fuck 61. If the Spurs win ugly, then they’ll win ugly. I’m pretty sure the game plan was to let GS get a double digit lead, then see if they can come back. haha
And that sucks with Jameer and CP hurt before the Allstar break. Hopefully CP makes it, but Jameer may end up a late scrub. Lets hope they both make it.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:32 am
Amar says:
@ RonNation: deron williams isn’t an all-star, but yeah, nice to see utah actually beat the bobcats for once (check out their head to head records). seems like ronnie brewer would have been a great SF in the early 80’s back when shooting 25-30% from three is acceptable. (I actually have no clue what his % is, though, it could be better for all I know)
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:37 am
control says:
rangerjohn
I was reading up on that greasing stuff…NSAC was wiping GSP down in-between rounds just to ensure that it wasn’t an issue. BJ also didn’t file formal paperwork to start an investigation, and since the NSAC was dealing with it during the match, there isn’t anyway they can change the fight to a NC. I don’t know all the rules and everything, but the highlights I seen (with analysis) showed that the trainer who was doin the “greasing” had vaso on the back of his left hand. He spread vaso w/ finger tips of his right hand…using it all on GSP’s face before doing that weird chestrub ritual. He had no vaso on the front of his left hand when he touched his back, and only a very very very tiny amount when he rubbed his left shoulder.
There was no vaso on GSP’s flanks, which is where BJ was saying his rubber guard was slipping…straight out BJ just got dominated. Instead of making silly excuses up (like he always seems to do) he should just focus on 155lbs and fulfill his potential in that division.
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:45 am
E$ says:
Great game, got to make a video of it - Kobe sucks by the way - lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:54 am
GEE..."him and John Wayne?!" says:
Houston Up!
Here we go today with,
Kobe vs. LeBron
Kobe vs. MJ
and plain Kobe.
Expect about 100 post on 2 to 3 different sections.
I ain’t mad though cause dude deserves that press.
I am thinking though it’s gotta suck for the Knicks to a degree. Due to the place you play in having so much history, many players want to come in and have these awesome games in there.
I mean fa real thinking back from past history to current players, they often try to lay it down harder in The Garden.
I am thinking it’s cool to have a place known for it’s legend and history, but it’s gotta suck to have players come in like yea I am droppin no less than 50 tonight.
Injuries man! I don’t like it when players go down injured but I do enjoy when fans who always pop off about weak Tracy McGrady is (granted it has it’s percentage of truth) get a taste of what it’s like for one of their star players to go down.
Lakers - Bynum
Jazz - Boozer
Magic - Nelson
And that ain’t even naming them all. Might wanna watch how you call out another player, cause you never know when yours is going down.
Had to know the Suns were going to come out and damage whoever being that they had their meeting. That is how it always works after a meeting. I am more interested how they do say 3 to 4 games from now once that meeting feeling has wore off.
61 points! Wow! Didn’t McGrady score 62 one time?
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:55 am
rangerjohn says:
control you better go read up some more, the NSAC said they did not start toweling down gsp till between 2 and 3, he said “i missed him on the 1st one”
i have see nabout 3 different angles and it is hard to tell. then again if you rub vasoline on anything you CANT get it all off so it doesnt matter how much he had on his ace (he also had excessive amounts on his brow IMO i mean shit it was falling off in the cage) then it is going to stay on his fingers. even a little it is to much.
sounds to me like you just really read the explanation by greg jackson.
bj’s manager/brother IS filing a formal complaint or at least that is what he told mmaweekly.com.
like i said, bj was not going to win anyway but if GSP is found to have done it (or his corner) then IMO he is a cheat and needs to be punished. they will not strip his title, they will not even reverse the decission but some punishment is in order. like i said this is not the 1st time people have complained. so either GSP is the most slippery sweaty guy out there or he is greasing.
here is the thing, vasoline when mixed with sweat is not easy to take off. it doesnt just towel off (there where some guys at a jiu jitsu tourney a couple years ago grease up their arms, all of the people they competed against where complaining they where to slick, they got caught and run out of town pretty much. lucky they didnt get beat down too.)
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:59 am
that's whats up says:
Spurs have a 4 game lead over the Hornets. I hope CP3 is okay, but I’m really just saying that for Karma’s sake.
Spurs could actually win the West, which is amazing considering all of their new players and their suddenly sucky Defense.
Go Kobe!! Blow your wad now like everyone knows you can !! See you in the WC Finals.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:00 am
Mister Sun says:
jup, tmac scored 62 in march 04. funny was he went ice cold at the end of the game. could have easily scored 70.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:01 am
that's whats up says:
@ ranger - “here is the thing, vasoline when mixed with sweat is not easy to take off. it doesnt just towel off ”
Trust me, nobody wants to know how you know this
LMAO!!!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:02 am
control says:
rangerjohn
If there is an investigation, and GSP is found to have cheated then I agree with you, he should by all means be punished according to the rules. My own personal opinion, which means absolutely nothing, is that there was no vaso on his vital areas…but I don’t have access to the videos the people doing the investigation do. Frenchmen ARE unnaturally sweaty for some reason…fuckin frogs.
GEE
You forgot Chris Paul and the Hornets. An injury to CP3 might actually increase his MVP worthyness if the Hornets absolutely suck while he is out.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:10 am
GoGoGo says:
Simply the best.. Kobe is without a doubt the best player in the league.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:12 am
GEE..."him and John Wayne?!" says:
I am thinking can the Knicks really even call “The Garden” home court when a visiting team with a Wade, LeBron, Kobe or someone like that comes to town?
Yea now I need CP3 to get that quad dub.
That 60 point range takes a player really in the zone.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:13 am
YOUNGFED...."I got 2 balls, Im'a pass'em to ya Baby Mama" says:
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Here ya Go:
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YOUNGFED “The real reason most of yall come here”
Holla!!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:13 am
Kobeef says:
Have to ask it:
Is Kobe the best “scoring guard” in the history of the game?
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:14 am
GEE..."him and John Wayne?!" says:
ranger I don’t know how severe CP’s injury will be though? Don’t get me wrong pullin that groin ain’t cool. I just don’t see him out long.
Have to wonder how A.I. gets around with all the injuries he has had. Dude is pure heart.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:18 am
GEE..."him and John Wayne?!" says:
You know the most of us real players got much A$$ to
Young I aint trying to be the correction police or anything. I honestly just want to make sure I understand?
Do you mean most real players was hitting it to that song,
or do you mean real players got junk in the trunk?
I pray it’s the first one lol.
Kobeef you trying to start it up lol.
Just to answer I would say it’s yet to be determined. So at this point no. Not to say he won’t be by the time he ends.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
control says:
“YOUNGFED “The real reason most of yall come here”” - The comedy continues. Damn this kid has ego. YOUNGFED, how’d your visit to the FOOT HAPPY MASSAGE in Vegas go?
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:20 am
Tbest says:
Doesn’t Kobe always seem like he is trying to show up other sports. It seems like right around the time there is something big going on in another sport (final four, super bowl, etc) Kobe always does something to steal the spotlight. I forget the specific examples, but i know i have heard people talking about it in the past. I just went to four sports websites and the steelers are already replaced on the front page by Kobe.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:27 am
YOUNGFED...."I got 2 balls, Im'a pass'em to ya Baby Mama" says:
@Control
Like I told vinny it was cool I won a couple of stacks nothing to major most of my time was spent gambling and in my suite at the MGM with the Wifey. I seen much better but its definetely a single mans town which i’m not anymore so it was just cool.
BTW you can comment on my ego once you get one of these.
http://dimemag.com/2008/11/youngfeds-nba-roy-rankings/
LMAO
@Kobeef
Kobe is the best player in the history of the game.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
blazerjunkie says:
Who’s more injury prone Bynum or Oden??
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:35 am
KDizzle (That breeze is your team finally breathin) says:
February 2nd, 2009 at 6:50 pm
KDizzle (That breeze is your team finally breathin) says:
“@ Austin
I’m glad you said potentially cuz if you think Kobe’s gonna come into nyc and not put on a show…
Only good thing about AB’s injury, and this is weak, is that Kobe’s about to steal Bron’s mvp trophy….
small victories”
Just so you know…
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
blazerjunkie says:
Bynum goes down every year. I’m starting to wonder if he is injury prone.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:36 am
control says:
YOUNGFED
I guess only GEE can comment on your ego then eh? I’ll comment on your ego every time it gets out of hand, which is every time you post.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:38 am
blazerjunkie says:
Bynum = Big-Time BUST!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:40 am
control says:
Has there ever been a big guy who has had two years in a row end up with a fucked up knee…and then went on to have a good career? I can’t think of any off the top of my head, sorry Laker fans. Bynum ain’t the next Eddy Curry, but he def ain’t the next Shaq. I’m guessing he will end up being like a Marcus Camby type of talent…replacing Marcus’ good defense with Bynum’s bitch hip checks.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:49 am
YOUNGFED...."I got 2 balls, Im'a pass'em to ya Baby Mama" says:
@Control
Try Greg Oden he got some bum ass knees too.
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:56 am
control says:
YOUNGFED
Yeah, Greg Oden. If Greg has another injury on his knees this year then his ceiling will probably be a poor man’s Mutumbo. Even down to the looking like he’s 50-60 years old.
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:04 am
rangerjohn says:
control
from what i have seen it is not like they slatherd him down with grease but rules are rules and the rules say only on the face, he blatantly wipped it on his traps and chest before reaching to the back.
the thing that makes it more imperative he get punished is that this is not the 1st documented case. he has been complained about by 2 other fighters and BJ complained DURING THE FIGHT about it. how could bj or his corner have known about it DURING THE FIGHT if there was not something fishy?
onto bball, i agree with who said he hopes CP3 is ok for karma sake. i cant stand the kid but i hope he is ok. same for nelson. hell even for bynam. while i cant stand bynam or paul, i am not so filled with hate that i would laugh or wish bad on them like some of the manu haters do on him.
that said GO SPURS GO pretty or ugly, a win is a win. i wonder do you think pop would like to have steven jackson back?
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:24 am
fallinup says:
@ 37 FED
Do you got that page bookmarked or something. Or is it your default homepage. I bet you showed all of your family and friends to prove how much of an internet sensation you are. haha
Peeee Thetic.
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:38 am
Heckler says:
Kobe is already the western conference player of this week. and i think the lakers still got games against the celts and cavs this week.
kobe gonna go into allstar wknd as the leader for mvp. after all lebron done in the first half…kobe’s last week is gonna shatter all of it. expect kobe and the lakers to break the cavs home win streak on sunday.
as for the injuries…hot damn. chris paul looks like he’ll be back shortly. jameer nelson might not be in the asg now. eastern squad has a choice btwn david lee or ray allen.
the warriors are now the biggest mess in the nba. yup. worse than the kings, grizz, wolves and thunder. the franchise is just pathetic.
they should rid themselves of don nelson. then rid themselves of half their roster.
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
YOUNGFED..."Stop hatin' and start participating" says:
Naw Fallinup or down which ever it is. All you gotta do is google my name in the search engine and yes I was rather proud to be one of the few ever selected after only being on the site for like 2 months. So if that makes me “Peee Thetic” so be it….”IM RIICCCHHHH B@TCH”
Now what you need to do is get your paper up and not your hater up because jealousy breeds envy bruh. And your kinda obvious.
LMAO
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:41 am
Bron42 aka Downtown Funky Stuff Malone says:
told you kobe injured bynum on purpose to prove a point lol…that’ll do kobe…that’ll do
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:44 am
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
Kobe got off.Its the Knicks though so I wouldnt act like everything gonna be okay with the team.The big dude was balling before he got hurt and the most important thing for me he was scowling and fucking u up if u came in the lane.Now people gonna be making the Laker D look soft again.The Knicks had damn near 120 theyself.The refs dicked GS at the end.Manu did not get touched on that last play.Tony walked on that and 1 too but Im not mad at that because every star get 3 steps.Once you pass a certain classification you get that.
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:45 am
fallinup says:
Like I said, FED.
PEEEE THETIC. Just like your half brain responses. LOL
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:52 am
YOUNGFED..."Stop hatin' and start participating" says:
@Fallinup
Almost as PEEEE THETIC0 as you worry about what the next man doing. People will always even those that are better than them. And I’m better than you because I could give a Fuk less about what you do but your worried about me….Funny but I’ma leave it at that…Holla
BTW Your new name is “Fallin Foward” cause thats what you need to do right on your Mutha-Fukin’ face…lol(x)2
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:54 am
YOUNGFED..."Stop hatin' and start participating" says:
That should’ve been
“People will always envy those that are better than them.
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:56 am
Bron42 aka Downtown Funky Stuff Malone says:
cant we all just….get along
February 3rd, 2009 at 10:59 am
control says:
fallinup
You are wasting your time man. Ain’t no common sense sharp enough to cut thru that foo’s smoke haze. I have wasted pages of comments trying, and apparently he has cut me down and “exposed” me every time…
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:00 am
LakeShow84 says:
Man i give it to Kobe.. The next game after your second best player is injured and he steps up like that?? in the Garden no less??
And no Kobe is not the greatest shooting guard in history but dude is probably the best SCORING guard in history..
Just nasty.. Just nasty.. And whoever said it is right.. Kobe might just steal Bron’s MVP trophy now that he has to pick the slack up lol first game into it and he dont look so bad..
And quit hating Dime.. i caught those ballhog swipes you guys tried to make.. how the hell can he truly control if he gives the ball up and teammates pass it back to him.. he wasnt barking like he was during that Raptors game.. now THEN he was trying to get the ball back..
I smell another string of 40ppg coming..
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:01 am
fallinup says:
Look who’s distraught when someone laughs at your outlandish attention whoring. I was merely making a point at the your grave digging an old article that you are still sooooo proud of that you still shove it in readers faces saying…”SEE I BE BETTER EN JOO!!!”
Trust me, I aint worrying about it. Just laughing at you. I still say you probably got it as your homepage. loser. haha
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:05 am
LakeShow84 says:
And just for everyone talkin shit like “it was 60 but it was the Knicks” take that hatin shit somewhere else..
When was the last time someone dropped 60 in the garden?? rrriiiiggghhhhttt since Jordan and the Knicks have def fielded worst teams than this years squad.. its hard hitting 60 period.. and basketplayers of all people should know this..
i can hear it already..
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:08 am
YOUNGFED..."Stop hatin' and start participating" says:
@Bron
You know we cant all get along around here it is what it is. I don’t mind it, infact half of the time it just makes me laugh. Half of the time its just cats talkin just so i’ll comment on there corny asses anyway. Its all good.
@FallinFoward…
I was done with you, but on a serious note I really hope your black cause if not that was some racist ass racist sh*t. …”SEE I BE BETTER EN JOO!!!” WTF is that supposed to mean.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:09 am
Bron42 aka Downtown Funky Stuff Malone says:
@Lakeshow, jordn did t against tougher comp and did it with only 10 foul shots but u still gotta give it to kobe…did you hear the knick player (forgot who) take a shot at him with the “well you could tell from the first quarter he wasn’t in I’ma dish the ball or grab 9 rebounds mode”…hatersss…
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:10 am
fallinup says:
hahaha. Yep. I’m racist. (sigh)
I’m racist like your intelligent.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:11 am
fallinup says:
Seriously fed. Are you 13?
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
Bron42 aka Downtown Funky Stuff Malone says:
Racist? “en joo” sounds like something rain man would say, not a black person lol
@falllin & fed, its a unmonitored forum…people are gonna say what they wanna say..why even bother arguing like either one of u is gonna change the other mind lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:15 am
control says:
Oh damn, here comes the racist bullshit again…apparently the comments section at Dimemag.com = kkk forums…
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:17 am
YOUNGFED..."My gun like my best friend I hang out wid'it." says:
You must be really racist then cause im very intelligent.
BTW am I 13 come better than that son.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:18 am
fallinup says:
aint no arguing bron. Just wanted to once again laugh at Fed’s idiotic show boating. I do this at least once a month with him.
I believe the last time. I made him cry cause he said he was done posting here…I called him on it and said he was full of shit. He was gone for a sec…but alas, here we are again.
haha…I’m cool with it though. Because in all, I’m just envious and jealous at all of the “paper” fed makes. And ya know he IS better then all of us.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:20 am
LakeShow84 says:
I feel yas Bron..
I feel bad Jordan never got to play like these guys play nowadays.. no hand checking on the perimeter?? Jordan would hit 50-60 every week..
And everyone is going to hate.. it was probably Q-Rich who said it.. he always gets lit up by KB..
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:22 am
LakeShow84 says:
Fellas fellas..
I like both you guys YOUNGFED and FALLINUP! please dont be mad at each other lol..
come on fellas drop that shit and talk bball.. aint nothing coming from this but you guys wasting space on the posts.. i doubt either of you are really hurting each others feelings..
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
rlf says:
could you be more negative writing about what happened last night with kobe.
it’s really funny, you don’t enjoy watching something like that, right?
you look for the negative instead of the positve in things.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:24 am
McLovin says:
With Bynum out and Kobe having to carry more of a load, the race to the MVP award is going to become much more interesting, watch out Lebron!
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
fallinup says:
I agree, Lakeshow.
Just to point out, though. You guys don’t see me go at FED until he comes in to take the topic off BBall.
Orif I hadn’t had my coffee and it’s before my lunchtime doobie. haha
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:25 am
LakeShow84 says:
here goes a topic im sure Lebron fans will love..
If Lebron took 20 Free Throws..
You think he could make 80%?? LOLOLOLOLOL i dont think so… he would have to be having “a hot shooting night” to hit his freebies.. lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:27 am
YOUNGFED..."My gun like my best friend I hang out wid'it." says:
Naw just better than you bruh. And made me cry thats not even worth commenting on. However I noticed you didn’t answer my question regarding your race. So i’ll assume the latter (Your white) so with that being said comment on me all day you wont get another reply cause I don’t talk to racist. But I’m done now back to basketball.
@Bron
You know that shit was racist stop trying to play peace maker. lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
fallinup says:
It is what it is, FED. Just Black and White with you.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:31 am
fallinup says:
Here’s another one, FED. Read this one out loud.
I AM SOFA KING WE TODD DID.
Hooooooo! The racist comments never stop. I’m a bad bad man!
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:38 am
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
@Lakeshow.U still doing the comparing and what if shit?U aint learn yet?U was just on here last week talking about Bynum this ,Oden is fragile that.Kobe about to tear his ACL fucking with Lakeshow.Get that hate out ya blood Lake.Bron dont read this shit and most knowledgable fans know they both are great and like both of them.Kobe just more seasoned right now as he supposed to be.He got 6 years on the kid but the kid holding his own so just appreciate ball.It might be a homer thing.I was a youngin in the 80’s whoever was there was it either Magic or Bird then.Because now oldheads just say they both was the shit.Maybe thats how some of these cats will get in they golden years.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:41 am
Ian says:
kobeef
best scoring guard??? i dont know its a three horse race for that one
jordan
kobe
iceman
in any order but the iceman i think had the easiest time putting the ball in the basket.
fuck it the three can drop 50 on anyone
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:47 am
control says:
Ian
iceman? You talking Chuck Liddel? Ain’t no iceman in that discussion, sorry.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
Ian says:
lakeshow
did gasol get injured because there is no way in hell that bynum is the lakers second best player hes 4th tops.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:50 am
fallinup says:
@ Control
Funny. I as thinking Val Kilmer in Top Gun.
Hiyoooo!!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:55 am
Ian says:
control
if you say there is no iceman in the discussion about the best scoring guards in the nba history u better stop posting.
how many scoring titles does the iceman have?? did u get to see him play or just highlights of him dropping 30 on everyone everyday hes prob the only dude that could score effortless.
yeah he belong in the scoring discussion even if he cant play D like the others.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
control says:
Ian
No doubt the guy could score the ball back in the 60s or whenever, and he did a hell of a job on Pros vs Joes. I just don’t think he could compete with the game “now a days”. Admit it, you only mentioned his name because he dropped 4 scoring titles while playing for your Spurs.
February 3rd, 2009 at 11:58 am
fallinup says:
If we’re going old school, ian. I gotta throw Elgin Baylor out there. The man was insane.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:03 pm
control says:
Damn, George Gervin wasn’t on Pros vs Joes. Hahaha, that was Xavier McDaniel. My bad.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:05 pm
Ian says:
control
sure i only mentioned the best sg till jordan came around because he played for my spurs sureeee ill admit it happy.
i guess when we have a best pf discussion ever i cant mention duncan because he played for my spurs right??
a great player is great whenever dont give me the back then bullshit because in 15 years jordan would suck??? no its because im talking about a spurs player , let me tell u something a player learns to play the current game u tell me u bring over the greats to the 00s and give them the same trainin guys get today and they wont dominate the same?? keep foolin yourself
i bet u think 90s basketball is the best because jordan played please fuck that why can u choose whenever basketball is the best???
keep fooling yourself if i make an alltime lise of sgs gervin isnt top 5 overall??? lol or he isnt arguably the best scorer??? pleaseeee
fallinup
hes a foward i think
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:06 pm
fallinup says:
Omit Elgin. He was a forward. Sumbitch!
I still say he’s one of the best scorers ever. Top 5-10 at least.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:07 pm
Ian says:
oppps i said keep fooling youself twice doesnt make much sense
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:08 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@control, ICeman would KILLLL most of the guys today…Dude could finger roll from the foul line meanwhile half the stars these days can’t hit a normal foul shot. Had 5-6 scoring titles, not to mention the buckets he put up that year agaist david thompson…include the new handcheckless rules and weak D? he would still beast…Thats like sayin Dr.J wouldn’t hold his own now. Iceman was tmac minus the injuries lol
@ian, u gotta add benard king into that, even though he played sg and sf.
@fed, i feel touched, i dont think anyones ever labeled me as a peace maker before…
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:09 pm
Ian says:
in fact control give me 4-5 better scoring sgs than gervin?
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:12 pm
Ian says:
bron
u know i thought about him a bit but because of him playin a lot of sf kinda left him out my number 4 spot i like west for that one.
iceman was a tad better scorer than tmac but yeah its a good comparison
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
control says:
Ian
I’d say Tim Duncan is the best power forward right now, and probably of all time. The only thing you can debate about him is if he’s a power forward or center.
I’d go more into the debate about Gervin, but the “Xman” got picked over him for Pros vs Fucking Joes…
JKin there, I actually got a meeting in about 10 minutes and I’m not sure how long that will take
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
YOUNGFED says:
Ian says “the three can drop 50 on anyone” that maybe true but only one of them can drop 80 on anyone and thats Kobe.
Kobe= greatest ever.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@lakeshow,
it was david lee
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:13 pm
fallinup says:
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/dailydime?page=dime-GreatestSGs
Good read. I can’t argue with that.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:16 pm
control says:
Damn, just as I’m leaving YOUNGFED has to come in and start talkin reckless, Kobe ain’t better than MJ. Can’t even start that debate until he wins a chip without Shaq.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
fallinup says:
@ 96
Control, chill with the racist comments. You’re just a hater anyway. lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:17 pm
control says:
BTW
Kobe wouldn’t have scored 61 if D’antoni would have put Nate “Yao stopper” Robbinson on him…if he can block Yao he MUST be able to block Kobe eh?
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@ian, tmac is a better athlete and has more range but Iceman had one of the nbas top 3 unstoppable moves of all time wit the finger roll. Right behind the sky hook.
@fed, kobe greatest ever? jordan won 6 rings, and in all the finals series, no team won more than 2 games of the series…kobe just got murdered in the finals. I say we just tell the government to skip sheep and jump straight to cloning jordon
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:22 pm
YOUNGFED says:
Why does Kobe have to win w/o Shaq when MJ didn’t have to win w/o Jordan kind of a double standard.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:24 pm
Ian says:
youngfed
u know i wasnt even gonna answer that but since control did what hell ill give it a shot also.
yeah kobe did it once and jordan (talking guards here cuz i think wilt is the best ever and gervin didnt have the 3pt line his whole career) led his team to SIX titles kobe has been outta the first round ONCE being the man so wait a while before posting that crap, shit kobe isnt even the best active player career wise.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
control says:
YOUNGFED
You are right, Jordan should have won without Jordan…
Ian
That article fallinup posted covers our small debate quite nicely. Can’t argue with it, and can’t argue with iceman being 4th. I just wanted to point out that you pointed him out just because he’s a Spur
anyways, out for awhile.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:26 pm
Ian says:
youngfed
is not double standard we are talking about being the best player on the team even if the team is stacked u r talking like pippen can go up to lets say robinson/hakeem/bird or whoever and say hes better because he won more. no he was the second player on the team.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:29 pm
Ian says:
control
damn i mentioned him because he can score like kobe and jordan lol bad luck hes a spur. i read that a while back but that is for overall play i was just talking offense. i personally dont think west is better than gervin or that iverson is better than anyone on the list maybe dumars.
so then u agreed with me but not directly when i said iceman is top 4 ever lol admit it.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Ian says:
control check out the iceman description it says it all
“The Iceman could score on anyone from anywhere. The Iceman could score blindfolded. The Iceman could score getting out of bed. You get the point.”
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:32 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@control, i’m sure he meant without pippen
@fed, like Ian said, on the shaq/kobe teams, it was shaqs team. On the jordan/pippen teams, jordan was the man…But when pippen was alone he didn’t win anything, when kobe was alone he didn’t win anything.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
I think Bron just broke it down for u teenyboppers.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@ian, if were talking offensive sgs, iverson is easily top 5. dumars was just a defensive stopper and pistols career was too short.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Ian says:
bron
no heheh on iverson now im talking about the list
i wouldnt take him over any of those guys
iverson isnt effiencient imo 30 points on 40 shots everyday i mean comonnn
how many times did u see iverson 27 pts 7-30 from the field and a team loss
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:41 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
I seen it a lot Ian but as far as scoring 2’s he up there pimpin.They all had them nights.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
YOUNGFED..."Yeah I'm back wit a few stacks from Vegas" says:
@Bron and Doc
1st off when Pippen was alone he never had another allstar player on his team unlike Shaq so that analysis is outta here.
@Ian
If rings are what make you the best ever than fug it Robert Horry is the best that ever did it. I really wish people would stop acting like rings are the deciding factor in the Jordan/Kobe debate. If Jordan and Kobe played a game of 21 Jordan would lose.
@Control post#102
You just made the list of people who get no response cause thats just plain petty and retarded everyone else here knew exactly what I meant but you GTFOH.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Ian says:
shit did i write “effiencient” looks retarded
doc
i think he hurts the team to much the only way he works is playing with scrubs look at denver no one would say billups is better but look at the diff
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:45 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
all sgs hve those night and alot of their points come from the line..specially someone like iverson whose points come from driving layups over bigger guys drawin contact.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:49 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@fed, were not talkin about shaqs legacy, were talkin about kobes and kobe has gasol and still didnt win shit. As THE MAN, kobe hasnt won..plain and simple. With shaq, he did. And in a game of 21? thats a toss up but I still say no, jordan was more physical and a better defender. kobe just has more range.
@ian, I said scoring…is iverson better than chauncy? ya..is her a better leader? no
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Ian says:
youngfed
thats the dumbest excuse everyone come with “oh well longley has 3 rings is he better than ewing” comonnn be smart we are talking stars here not fucking roleplayers. love it that u say rings dont matter but a game of 21 decides everything lol. would magic beat paul in a game of 21 prob not, would bird beat tmac prob no , would wilt beat hakeem prob not and they are better players even if they lose the 21 im sorry to say this but that reasoning is retarded. how about the fact that kobe has been outta the first round once carryin a team or that the only things u guys come up with is the 81 pts. i hate jordan but the man won six times not once SIX being the best fucking player on his team what has kobe won shit like that.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Ian says:
bron
again i said on the list iverson is to me the worst player and scoring wise he could put up the totals of an iceman or kobe but he would take twice as many shots which to me means nothing
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:55 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
p.s: wilt would bull the dream lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
YOUNGFED..."Yeah I'm back wit a few stacks from Vegas" says:
@Bron
Lets have this discussion again after the season when Kobe is holding that trophy. Cause the Celtics aint got it in’em to do it again. Then will he be better. In todays NBA its damn near impossible to score 80pts with these players being so physical and gifted. But K-Hova did it and nobody else ever will. And Everyone else can miss me with that Wilt ish cause players wasn’t even half as good as they are now.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
BROGDEN says:
Ya know I’m going to weigh in…
Before Jameer got hurt, Kidd OWNED him. If anyone else saw the game, please vouch, is it me or Kidd DID NOT RESPECT Jameer, at all. It was like he was saying, “YOU?!? An ALL STAR?! PLEASE!!” Then proceeded to block his shots, pick his passes, poke the ball outta his dribbles and made life miserable. Orlando was playing BETTER without him. At least, last night they were.
Watching Dallas - I had a change of heart for Detroit. If Jet is scoring 20 a game off the pine. Manu can score 30 off the pine. Then…AI can get 30 per game, easy. AI - the verdict’s in - IT’S TIME FOR YOUR ASS TO COME TO COME OFF THE BENCH.
Turk’s legs are FADING AWAY. He’s lunchmeat on the defensive end.
SHAQ definitely makes the SUNS legit. They gotta nice squad…despite thier defensive lapses.
It was TRULY SAD to see NO blow a 20pt lead to the Blazers. We see who the HEART, SOUL, MIND, AND “FILL-IN-THE-BLANK” is!
And, on another note, I think GREG ODEN should’ve smack the snot outta David West. He woulda earned instant “DON’T EFF WIT ME” status.
Dime — “Too bad no one’s gonna remember that Pau put up 31 points and 14 boards. Now he knows how Al Jefferson feels every night” —}} OH SO TRUE. I LOVE BIG AL!
How about them Warriors?? “Dude had a point, but calm down; your squad is still stuck on 15 wins and we’re almost at All-Star Weekend.” LOL - OH SO TRUE. I LOVE DIME for KEEPING IT REAL!
@ 14 - CONTROL — “Why does Nate Robbinson shoot 14+ shots per game? Has he ever hit more than 50% of his shots in a game? Ever? Someone has to put the clamps on that lil’ midget.” —}} I think that’s his job. That’s why there’s NO CLAMPS.
@ 23 - GEE — “61 points! Wow! Didn’t McGrady score 62 one time?” I gotta agree with Mister Sun on this one, that was back in MARCH of 2004, aka WHEN HE WAS RELEVANT.
32) MAYBE!
37) I CAN’T BELIEVE I’M AGREEING WIT U BUT…MAYBE!
If you don’t believe ICEMAN belongs in the conversation of best 2-guards ever…you probably were born in the late 80s or sumptin.
@51 — “Knicks had damn near 120 theyself” –}OH SO TRUE
The LAKERS should keep the above statement in mind!
And onto Kobe - Yeah, he hit 19 of 31 for a cool 61 FG%…layups, fade-aways, dunks in traffic, crazy spin move jumper swish where his pivot magically stayed in one place while he faked EVERYONE around him near the top of the key, mid-range joints, and hittin’ triples…consectively. With all that said, 20 for 20 from the line tells you the MAN WAS FOCUSED. 11 for 11 in the 4th!!
I think Kobe was on Ritalin last night.
February 3rd, 2009 at 12:57 pm
Ian says:
examples not facts relax bron
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:00 pm
Ian says:
u won only one and you are lucky youngfed
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:02 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@fed, who on the knicks last night or the raptors counts as physical? lol jordan did it against oakly, ewing,starks and anthony “i will lay ur ass out mason”…kobe had wilson chandler…and no, the lakers aint winnin with no bynum and prolly not with him either..
@ian, i was jokin lol
brogen just wrote a book lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:04 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Calm down Doc.. i was trying to get those two off each others for a second.. and i like palying with Dime because i know how passionate they are when it comes to Lebron..
But i cant lie i do to jab at Lebrons fan base lol
Ian your pretty funny.. Bynum is the second best player on our team and i say that because BEFORE Gasol came along and AB was peaking we were doing the same amount of damage we are now.. So yes Gasol is way more talented than Bynum but Bynum brings a toughness ANY team needs and ill take a tough ass center over a finesse PF any day of the year..
And plus you aint a laker fan so you have no opninion on who is better than who.. If Bryant was SLIGHTLY better than Gasol you would be a hater and say Gasol is better lol but for amusement who was the third best player?? and if u say Odom we will have to chunk em’ lol
Spurs fans.. Always trying to get into the Laker Koolaid..
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Bron42 aka Haters drink my bath water says:
@lakeshow…before the injury last year NO ONE considered bynum the lakers tough guy..he was more just a big body at the time who if the scored was a bonus. He only became “tough” after takin cheap shots on lebron and wallace.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:11 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
really i cant talk about any team other than mine sorry i didnt know i apologize but get things straights u became what u r now the favs when gasol came in and there no way bynum is better than gasol is now. bynum was what 10 10 and gasol is a 20 10 player sureeee bynum is the second best player on the team.
roger mason jr is the spurs best player by far u cant comment on it cuz u are a laker fan remember.
bron
agree 100% on that
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Ian says:
theres no way a team with last years bynum as the second best player wins a ring
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:14 pm
YOUNGFED..."Yeah I'm back wit a few stacks from Vegas" says:
@Ian
make that 2 after this year and the bulls aint gotten close jordan so “Whatcha tawkin bout” Ian. lol
BTW We were far from lucky. The Celtics were lucky against the Hawks last year. The Raptors were lucky Phil took Kobe out last year. We were very far from lucky
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:24 pm
control says:
YOUNGFED
Nice, I’m on your VIP list. I’m going to be telling stories to my daughter in 10 years about this day!
BROGDEN
If shooting 30% from the field is a job a team needs fulfilled…I’m available. I’d do that for league min.
Ian
Yeah, I agree with you about the Iceman thing. I was only tossing that out there to ride you some about being a big time homer
Laker fans
Bynum ain’t tough, hammering guys 50-80lbs lighter than you while they are in the air is pretty easy. Mike Miller would beat his ass down in a street fight. Bynum ain’t better than Pau. Bynum ain’t better than Lamar (though more effective because Lamar is being a bitch). Bynum probably isn’t even better than Farmar or Arizia. Phil Jackson might be able to put a uniform on and school Bynum some. Bynum won’t be back this season so we gotta wait for next season to even see if he’s not damaged goods.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:25 pm
GEE..."him and John Wayne?!" says:
Pump ya breaks pimpin!
@ 23 - GEE — “61 points! Wow! Didn’t McGrady score 62 one time?” I gotta agree with Mister Sun on this one, that was back in MARCH of 2004, aka WHEN HE WAS RELEVANT.
Brogden I wasn’t saying nothing about relevance. I most def. wasn’t trying to overshadow what Kobe did cause that can’t be. Just simply bringing out that it’s a special zone and group that make that 60 range.
Regardless if he was relevant or not them points he dropped remain. Same with Kobe’s 81 and 61.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:30 pm
Ian says:
oh thanks control hehehehe
u know im only a homer when we talk manu lol
ranger gets more excited than me when talking spurs.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:32 pm
Ian says:
“Mike Miller would beat his ass down in a street fight” hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahhahahaha
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:40 pm
control says:
Ian
Speaking of Manu, you see that superflop he did last nite? Ronny mean mugged Manu and he flew off like a superman wannabe in a completely different direction. The refs fell for it too! I don’t know how that guy can live with himself, what he does is as dirty as people who scam old people of their money.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Bron42 aka Downtown Funky Stuff Malone says:
@ian, ranger sleeps with a life size tim duncan blow up doll thats why.
one thing alot of people are ignoring…outside the knicks play no defense and the jordan knicks were on of the most physical teams around at the time….jordan did it what, 4 games after coming out of retirement, in which he retired cuz the game was simply too easy for him lol kobe did it after a mvp season and the knicks still scored like 120 and the lakers only won by single digits.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Ian says:
control
manu kinda fell and there was some contact but of course he had to fly to sell it would u prefer your team lost the game??? hell no
flopped a bit but there was contact
thats why i didnt like the barry play on last years playoffs manu woulda have gotten the call.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:53 pm
fallinup says:
@ Bron42
It was 5 games in. He had just come back with 17 games left in the season. For those 17 games, MJ averaged 26.9 points, 6.9 rebounds and 5.3 assists. Not bad for being a lousy baseball player in the same season. haha
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
@fed-U lost me with Pip aint have an all star.The point was u asking why people say kob gotta win one as the man when mike had scottie.And the answer is because he was in Scottie position for his 3(2nd bananna)while mike status was top dog for 6.Kobe got all stars now so if he better than mike he should start ripping off 3 peats any year now.I wont comment on a game of 21 because real ballers wont even bring that up in a who’s better discussion.
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:56 pm
control says:
Ian
Ronny DID make a gust of wind at Manu…so I guess there was a tiny bit of contact. Manu then sold it by being launched like Uncle Phil threw him. That is pure BS. There wasn’t enough contact for a foul, he was out of control and on his like 5th step anyways. Refs gave that game to Spurs.
My team is the Raps, so I’m used to watching em lose the game
February 3rd, 2009 at 1:58 pm
control says:
Ian
I ain’t complaining about Spurs getting the win either, it was against the Warriors. If they were playing a real team then it might be a little bit more upsetting.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:01 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
ha!Ranger they said u gotta Tim blowup doll putting vaseline on ya bj blowup doll battered body.Yeah mike was droppin numbers with a baseball body,he viscous.I know the Lakers look like they about to get back to watch Kobe mode and that dont bode well for chips.Ask Kobe.And I would hope the Knicks scored 120 on bullshit and not because everybody know they sweet down low on D again.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:03 pm
Bron42 aka Downtown Funky Stuff Malone says:
On a side note, now that jameers shoulder was ripped off..how long before the magic are forced to call about marbury or trade for someone like conley?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:06 pm
Da Chi 23/33 says:
@ 5
Question: Assuming that 40 wins is the threshold for making the playoffs in the west, the Warriors are now 6 losses from eliminating themselves from the playoffs. Do you void Monte’s contract and start rebuilding?
The Warriors can’t void Monta’s contract period, if they cut him they still have to pay him becuase he has a guaranteed deal. So how does that help the Warriors?
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:29 pm
BROGDEN says:
@122) BRON42, OH SO TRUE! Like always…
@124) “@lakeshow…before the injury last year NO ONE considered bynum the lakers tough guy..he was more just a big body at the time who if the scored was a bonus…” — }} OH SO TRUE!! Again! Bron, that was actually a very accurate point that falls by the wayside. BUT, a very big BUT — he has developed exponentially SINCE then.
@128 Control - My thing is, I see why Nate doesn’t have a lot of fans but he’s got some skillz. His sub-40 FG% is a testament to his inconsistent shot. But I think…that can be improved upon. Look - He’s still with the organization. He started the rumble with Denver. He stood tall, well ya know what I mean, he stood tall in the face of punches and an atmosphere full of ANGRESSION (anger and agression) You saw him, he stood there flexin’ his muscles daring somebody, anybody to challenge. Sh%# aint sweet with the shrimp. He made sure everybody knew that. On top of that, the Knicks still got him on the payroll. He must be an excellent team-mate. He’s always cheering on the sidelines. Insert Joke here. He comes in, gives you good energy. He can score a bunch of points. And, the organization sees this guy in practice all the time. I think they believe in him.
@120 GEE — My brakes are PUMPED. I know what you were saying. It takes a SPECIAL CLASS of Scorers/Players to reach that mark. Kobe, special. Tracy, likewise. The difference - I’m just not a fan of TMAC.
Even though I don’t like Kobe all that much, everytime he plays I can’t keep my eyes off him. No homo.
On another note…has anyone ever seen TIM DUNCAN catch an alley-oop high in the air and YAM it!
I saw DAMPIER do it last night. And almost pissed myself. Magic let Dampier get loose on them. Pathetic. I mean, I know he was the center against the Heat that one year but Damn!
Now, what exactly was wrong with a Jet/Devin Harris in the backcourt? Dirk somewhere? And 2 sound bigs? (maybe Dampier is trustworthy so make that just 1 sound big)
Dallas TRULY effed up on that trade. No offense to Kidd.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:36 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
First of all the whole Kobe and Mike comparisons gotta stop… Look I m the biggest Kobe fan there is, but he isn’t MJ, and I think we do a disservice to Kobe and MJ when we compare them. Kobe is the closest we will have to MJ, mannerisms and all, but let’s be real. Because people got a hard on for the next MJ they assume that if Kobe doesn’t do this or that then he’s some kind of bust or some ish.
It’s like one thread I read on here one time
“if Kobe could walk on water, they’d say it’s cause he can’t swim”
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:45 pm
No J Mayo says:
How come nobody ever questioned Magic’s legacy that he never won one witout Cap? Even if he never retired in ‘91 he never gets another one cuz that’s when Mike started takin that shit every year.
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:48 pm
No J Mayo says:
And where’s the Pistol in the debate of all time scoring guards? I say:
Kobe
Mike
Ice
Pistol
February 3rd, 2009 at 2:51 pm
Austin Burton says:
@No J Mayo — Probably because Magic (as a rookie) had that monster game in the Finals when he filled in for Kareem at center. In a sense, he showed that the Lakers conceivably could have won a whole Finals series without Kareem, and that was when Magic was like 19 years old.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:02 pm
No J Mayo says:
That’s as good an explanation as I’ve heard Austin. I don’t know how well it really holds up. I mean, if Shaq would have rolled his ankle for the decisive game of one of their 3 chips and Kobe brought it home, I think the Kobe haters would still be talking shit.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:08 pm
the cynic says:
Warriors will make the playoffs next year
Anyone who thinks they are the worst team in the league is crazy, crazier then BJ Penn fans who believe his self-promotional delusions. Go check it out at BJPenn.com
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:34 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Its all about perception peeps.. Ian and Bron especially..
Im not a big stat guy so let me say it again.. Andrew Bynum is our second best player.. And to say he wasnt tough before this year because this year he has taken cheap shots at people is retarded.. Wasnt dude 2-3 blocks before he went out last year?? Wasnt dude altering as many shots last year and he was this year?? Even Phil said last year we needed his presence in the middle because he is tougher and a bigger body..
And 20-10 isnt all its cracked up to be Ian and Bron-Bron.. Look at Z-Bo.. will you trade Duncan away once his production slips but Z-Bo’s stays the same?? Didnt think so pal.. the game isnt all about stats its about intangibles too..
And you can say whatever you want Ian my man.. Dont mean nothing to me though.. Yes Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol and Derek Fisher are better than Bynum lol
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:39 pm
LakeShow84 says:
And for the record last year i knew he was a beast..
And even LAST YEAR i thought he was making his way into the top 5 center arguement.. He had beasted like 3-5 “supposedly” good centers in January alone but then went down..
So yes to all the haters out there he wasnt known as a tough guy last year.. But to someone who watched the man for what he brings to the table i thought he was a bad man..
Chumps.. He wasnt known as a tough guy until he took cheap shots this year..
Plllllleeeasssseee spare me that shit..
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:57 pm
control says:
LakeShow84
I think you are overlooking one major fact about Bynum: He wasn’t considered to be tough until he started doing cheap bitch tactics on smaller guys this year. He isn’t considered tough right now…making it rain in the clubs don’t make ya tough. The guy is a 7ft pussy w/ the potential to be a slightly above average center, assuming he ain’t damaged goods.
February 3rd, 2009 at 3:59 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Ya’all lucky my lunch break is over!!
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:04 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Control
like i said.. i thought he was tough last year.. I think him taking people out this year was more of Phil TELLING him to do that.. Everyone knows Phil has a no layup rule sometimes.. he just found someone to do it.. But the blocks BEEN there.. The presence in the middle (since last year) BEEN there.. I guess you guys are just mad because ur team doesnt have a GOOD player willing to do the dirty shit.. get over it.. and if Lebrons weight is accurate he almost weighs the same.. Crybabies
And what does makin it rain in a club have to do with anything?? but would u call Pacman a pussy?? rriiggghhhttt lemme know when you do that tough guy..
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:08 pm
that's whats up says:
sooo…. how soon until Kobe’s game starts declining???
2-4 more years he is on top?
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:09 pm
that's whats up says:
pacman is a pussy
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:16 pm
control says:
LakeShow84
How is Bynum tough? He gets a block or two when he’s healthy, he had 3 good games, he has thrown down some cheap shots…what else has he done that’s tough?
The guy probably has some hex and/or curse on him now anyways. The way he’s been injured two years in a row under almost exactly the same circumstances…he’s had some voodoo witchcraftery cast on him or something. If the guy lets a fucking bush shaman hex him into injuries, I am willing to say that is proof enough that he ain’t tough.
February 3rd, 2009 at 4:26 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Lol Control
But you still know he is tough and if your team traded for him you would frickin elated lol.. So dont hate.. Congratulate!
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:06 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
I wish the Sixers had somebody to fuck people up.But no we got retarded ass Sammy.At least he play full seasons though.I want to know if its a stat for goaltending.Sammy ass can get in the Hall for that.These cats talking about Kobe can walk on water now.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:32 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
if it dont mean notin to u then stop answering the posts.
bynum is not better than gasol your zbo and duncan comparison is stupid because u r comparing 2 players that get 20 n 10 here im comparing one 10 10 to a player that got 20 n 10 and carried memphis to the 4th seed in the west.
get your head outta bynums ass hes not better than gasol. tell me again why gasol was the allstar and not bynum keep fooling yourself in fact i think u r settin up some kobe crap if the win u r gonna be like ohh hes the greatest he won without his pippen lol. NO ONE except laker fans can say bynum is better than gasol who has been an allstar and the man on a bad team that made the playoffs.
February 3rd, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Ian says:
in fact u know what u r right i must be stupid discussing gasol / bynum with a laker fan LOL “bynum top 3-5 center last year” hahahahahhahahaha
one more injury and yall with have to agree with what ive been sayin bogut is better the prob is he plays for the bucks not the knicks or lakers.
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:13 pm
dave says:
same old shit here.
talk about the lakers forever….no matter what happened during the game or who it was agains’t
shit on the spurs as much as can if can.
rarely mention non-spur players that flop.
more about kobe.
blah blah blah.
the comments are entertaining though
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
@doc (i like kobe AND bron)
I never said he could walk on water, I said “If he could walk on water they’d say it’s cause he cant swim”
February 3rd, 2009 at 6:48 pm
control says:
Haterade
WHAT?!?! Kobe can’t swim? I guess he should have spent more time hanging around with Michael Phelps during the Olympics. World class athlete and the guy can’t swim…pathetic.
February 3rd, 2009 at 7:13 pm
Word says:
163 posts…
100 about Kobe and Bynum
15 about shootin guards
48 about 3 bitches (fed-up-trols) whinin about whatever and actin like 5 year olds
Fuck, what a waste of time
February 3rd, 2009 at 8:08 pm
Hey, Jugs from Timbuktu says:
165th!
February 3rd, 2009 at 9:03 pm
LakeShow84 says:
You just don get it Ian..
Allstars mean nothing.. Amare AND David West an All Star this year over Jefferson?? Iverson starting over Devin Harris?? cant mean much my friend.. And you are talking past accolades.. i am talkin here and now.. Gasol is soft.. Soft players disappear.. Rebounding, scoring, defense, all these things disappear when a soft person is met with a harder opposition (Last years finals anyone???)
Hard players can change the game when their shot isnt falling because they are tough MENTALLY.. but you dont get it dude..
I dont mean to bash my own guy but Gasol never even won a playoff game before he came to the lakers.. Gasol is extremely gifted offensively but the Lakers dont need anymore offense..
We needed what Bynum was bringing!! Shit do you understand me?!?! we went back to being soft and with Bynum we are a tough team!!!! And anyone who makes you look like a soldier (fatigues mofo) is more valuable than someone who makes you look like a Gap Shopper (sweater vests anyone?)!!!
Get it!?!? Fuck man!!! lol
February 4th, 2009 at 12:36 am
baron von faulk says:
All of Youngfed’s comments make a lot more sense when I read them by giving the voice in my head a Down’s Syndrome inflection…
February 4th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Ian says:
gasol never won a playoff game how many does bynum have??? ohh right hes always injured
get it?? fuck man relax bynum is not better than gasol