Final Exams
Lamar Odom (photo. Tim Tadder)Sorry all you Nuggets, Pistons, Rockets and Magic fans, but when it comes to likely NBA Finals previews, Lakers/Cavs (which would get monster ratings) and Celtics/Spurs (which, um, probably wouldn’t) are as realistic as it’s gonna get. In Cleveland yesterday, LeBron and Kobe were again jointly unspectacular in their head-to-head; LeBron put up 16 points, eight boards and 12 assists, shooting 5-for-20 from the field, while Kobe had 19 points on 8-for-17 shooting, but he at least had the asterisk that he was battling the flu — reportedly throwing up in the locker room and getting IV fluids at halftime. The only real highlight between them was Kobe’s fadeaway J over LeBron late in the fourth quarter that damn near scraped Larry Nance‘s jersey that hangs from the Quicken Loans Arena rafters … Why can’t we get that amazing (or at least satisfying) Kobe/LeBron Clint Eastwood-style shootout? No idea. Sometimes it’s just a style mismatch; you remember how everyone was pumped for Floyd Mayweather and Oscar De La Hoya to fight each other, but when they finally got in the ring, it was kind of a letdown. For whatever reason, Kobe and LBJ — at least in the time since everyone decided they were the undisputed two best players in the world — haven’t delivered that one truly memorable matchup, a la LeBron/Pierce or Kobe/Arenas … Instead, Lakers/Cavs was decided by the supporting guys, especially Lamar Odom. On his way to putting up 28 points and 17 boards, L.O. played like the guy who was a rebounding machine last year while Andrew Bynum was out, living on inside buckets and capitalizing off simply being in the right place at the right time. Often he barely had to jump for boards or open layups, and dominated the third quarter, scoring 15 points as L.A. came back from a 10-point deficit and eventually won by 10 points. Odom also guarded LeBron for stretches and kept him in check … Wally Szczerbiak looks strange enough with the way the black side panels on his nose-protector mask make it look like a helmet. Throw in the goofy headband and the way Wally runs and — eh, let’s just drop it before we get in trouble … While the Cavs suffered their first home loss, Sunday’s other main event saw the Spurs hand the Celtics a rare second straight loss in their building. After KG stuck a pair of jumpers to put Boston ahead with 1:30 left, the Spurs found themselves down one with 24 seconds left and the ball. Taking the defense by surprise, Roger Mason brought the ball up and jacked a three that hit all net (Pierce literally stood right next to Mason and just watched him) for the eventual game-winner. It was so un-Spurs because it wasn’t really a designed play, it wasn’t Tony Parker or Manu Ginobili going off-script, the shot was taken with nobody there to rebound in case he missed, and it’s Roger Freakin’ Mason. Give the man this much, though; since Mason has stepped up and become a proven fourth-quarter assassin, have you heard anyone mention the Spurs not having Robert Horry? … Ray Allen continued his run of last-second frustration. You saw what happened at the end of Lakers/Celtics. Yesterday Ray was trying to inbound after Mason’s shot when the ball slipped out of his hands and Manu snatched it, getting fouled and starting the free throw parade to ice it … So is Matt Bonner the NBA’s Gerry McNamara? He had busloads of people from his hometown in New Hampshire come in for the game, and Bonner gave them a show, scoring 23 and killing the C’s with that jumper where he makes the ball appear to weigh 25 pounds … After the Celtics opened up the second half with a 10-0 run to tie it up, did you hear Pop in the San Antonio huddle? “We didn’t screw anything up defensively,” he said. Apparently he didn’t see Tim Duncan leave Garnett (26 pts, 12 rebs) wide-open from his favorite spot on the game-tying J …
Brandon RoyBrandon Roy‘s game-winner against the Knicks was something you’ve seen before from him. Trailing by one with three seconds left, Roy drove left on Jared Jeffries, then got an up-and-under scoop shot to go over David Lee. Sick play. But on “NBA Gametime,” studio guest Reggie Theus blew it up a little too much when he said B-Roy is one of the greatest EVER at finishing games off on plays going to his left. That’s a very specific proclamation, and it’s a little early to call B-Roy the greatest of anything yet. We’re pretty sure MJ and Bird had their share of game-winner where they went left … Greg Oden played one of his best games of the season. He was running the floor (17 pts), getting after it on the glass (12 rebs), and was a force defensively (6 blks). Oden had a big tip-in basket during Portland’s game-ending run leading up to Roy’s shot, and on the other end helped keep NY scoreless over the last couple minutes while the Blazers made their comeback … Caron Butler was a BEAST, simple and plain. With just under a minute to go against the Pacers, he boldly nailed the game-tying three in Jarrett Jack‘s face. With 20 seconds left, he stuck another three from the same exact spot with Jack again draped all over him to give Washington the lead. Danny Granger — who ideally would have been guarding Caron during all this, but he had to get Antawn Jamison, which left Indy undersized — responded with a three of his own to tie it, but then Caron (35 pts, 13 rebs) came down on the other end and, now being guarding by Granger (29 pts), hit him with a step-back J at the buzzer to win it … Other big stat lines from Sunday: Dwight Howard went for 30 points and 16 boards in a win over the Nets, while Devin Harris had 28 and 12 assist in the loss; Kevin Durant scored 39 in a win over Sacramento; Steve Nash had 15 points and 21 assists in a win at Detroit; and Deron Williams posted 31 points and 10 dimes in a loss to Golden State … Do us a favor and remind us not to throw any “Do you really deserve to be here?”-type questions at David West during All-Star Weekend. Pissed off about a no-call in the first half of Hornets/Wolves last night, West argued with the ref for a sec, then chased down Mike Miller and just DESTROYED him from behind with a forearm club to the face. It was seriously on some Joey Jihad level of sucker-punch. “He would have got kicked out of a football game for that!” Eric Snow said on NBA TV. West was ejected and should get suspended, but then again, we said Kendrick Perkins should have been suspended for hitting Jason Maxiell with a running bulldog, and that didn’t go anywhere … We’re out like D-West …
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February 9th, 2009 at 6:14 am
iannyb says:
First
February 9th, 2009 at 6:22 am
iannyb says:
Finnaly i do pull off a first,from the beautiful island of St Lucia your boy iannyb wishing everyone around the world a good day.Well my lakers gave a good account of themselves.Whilst persons thought they would’ve folded since the injury to Bynum,they done the exact opposite and rallied.On any given day lakers can hang with any team in the league,bar none.Our archilles heel would have to be Kobe Bryant and his triangle obscurring shot selection.i have said time and time again Kobe is his own worst enemy.Yesterday Lakers were rolling, he was sick and still wanted to be the H.N.I.C Good ball rotation will cause Lakers to prevail anyday.Condos Odom he had a blast yesterday. Vujacic is showing he’s more than just a three point shooter.And oh, the Celtics lost,last year they would’ve won those games.teams aren’t intimidated by the C’s anymore and KG’s antics.All in all I only caught two games………..well 1 1/2,but was pretty much impressed.Lakers defense welcome back.get well soon Bynum.Bigups Pau,hopefully we’ll be able to get Morrison and Shannon Browne into the mix(Shannon killed us when we last played the Bobcats,very good athlete from MSU) Go Lakers we can’t let up now
February 9th, 2009 at 6:26 am
the cynic says:
No one who knew anything about boxing was pumped for Mayweather and De La Hoya
February 9th, 2009 at 6:26 am
iain. says:
Lol @ the description of wally! Its so true, he looked like the older guy at the gym that dresses like the kids and is just over-enthusiastic about everything. Also, what is with his run, looks like he has one leg shorter than the other the way he awkwardly hobbles around..
February 9th, 2009 at 6:27 am
the cynic says:
Celtics sure could use Posey
February 9th, 2009 at 6:32 am
d1n says:
the knicks up by one, 5 secs left with a foul to give(!) left jared on an island with B-roy and they didn’t foul him!? Seriously either some of the worst coaching ever or the players were thinking about who’s gonna take the next shot…Also KD doesn’t have a conscience. Granger, too.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:39 am
Luigi says:
YES! FINALLY A WIZARDS SIGHTING on Dime!. haha i guess it takes a Caron Butler take over in the 4th to get us recognized for our 11th win!!!
now all of that out of the way….LeBron dissapointed me. i guess from looking at message boards whenever i finish hw or bored on a day. i go online n find like one out of another billion LBJ articles n all i see is…
“LBJ IS THE BEST”
“LeBron would kill Kobe”
“LeBron took them to the NBA finals alone”
any many more…as a wiz fan im sure im gonna get ripped on this but like yeah he really didnt have a huge impact. he didnt make shots down the stretch n when they needed 2FT’s. i think he bricked them both. i really didnt understand with that natural talent ability that LeBron has that he didnt drive alot. n when he did he either airballed or passed up a shot.
but the cavs fans are saying they had an off game n i respect that. im just stating my opinion.
Brandon roy is a seasoned vet in his 30′s in a 20-somethin yr old body. man hes cool under pressure….n ive been followin Roger Mason alot n damn. he ALWAYS did that in Washington. we knew he was a stud 3pt shooter. kuz all he would do or after practice is compete with Gil in a 3pt contest…
oh well…i guess the story goes. If you leave Washington [any kind of sport] then you become an instant success. [star to a superstar]
February 9th, 2009 at 7:28 am
Ross says:
Why was Mike Torico homering for the Celtics? After Matt Bonner hit a three, he moaned in disbelief. Then, on a replay of Paul Pierce scoring on a drive, you could actually hear him orgasm.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:28 am
BENNYHILL says:
What about Travis Outlaw in the 4th quarter again Dime?
Every time I catch the end of a blazers game he is killing…
He got them back into the game again
From what I’ve seen he has to be one of the better closers in the game, which is weird because he only seems to make these shots down the stretch
February 9th, 2009 at 8:09 am
rangerjohn says:
lmao ross, because it was the spurs VS celtics, there is not a single commentator who roots for the spurs, this is why sean eliott is so “homer” he has to make up for all the other guys hate.
that was one of the better games i have seen too. it was fun to watch and not even remotely boring, except the crowd was not into it at all in the 1st half then barely into it in the second.
the ONLY complaint i have, the bad call against bowen when he took a three and pierce hit his leg. the said bowen kicked his leg out, while the replay showed his leg was not even past his other foot. besides guys like kobe and pierce himself do that shit all the time. after the call i was like “i hope that shit hurt paul cause they gave you one” other wise it wa about as even a game for the zebras as i have seen. the clear path violation could have been let go though, not to sure baout that call.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:12 am
Toby says:
Just imagine Dwight Howard would put up those numbers every game!
http://ezinearticles.com/?Dwight-Howard-Dunk-Or-How-To-Increase-Vertical-Jump&id=664453
February 9th, 2009 at 8:12 am
fallinup says:
Yesterday solidified for me that the Cavs aren’t championship material…sure, they could coast their way to the finals like the last time. But there’s no way that they deal with the depth and defense of LA, SA, or even Boston in a 7 game series.
And plus, Mike Brown sucks. Ya think that after seeing Phil’s gameplan of get the ball outta Bron’s hands…you’d run plays for other cats…but it seems Brown doesn’t run plays or doesn’t know how. JVG was calling him out for letting Varajao get beasted by Odom when he shoulda put Bron at the 4. But, god forbid Bron get exposed for having no post game.
And you could see that Kobe fadeaway over Lebron as the one play….that sealed his MVP trophy.
Am I the only one that would be totally stoked to see a SA and Boston finals??? Fuck ratings…that would be some damn good basketball right there.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:22 am
YOUNGFED..."In Detroit they call me the black Phillip Drummond" says:
Damn never new D-West was that gangster. Dime yall gotta post the video, I missed it.
Steve (Stevie Wonder) Nash was just ridiculous last nite. He single handedly destroyed us last night. But atleast Rip’s game is finally coming back an AI ballin so we’ll be alright.
BTW I never new AI was so down to earth a couple days ago I was at the casino at the players club and he walks in about 3 deep sits down and starts playing. Me playing stupid I’m like your AI arent you. He’s was like yeah and turn and started playing. After about a hour goes buy and he starts winning he’s buying rounds for table and just kickin’ it with me about the City and hot clubs. I told him about a couple of venues my fellas had going on and coming up and left. Later on that night dude shows up at the club with his same 2 fellas’ and goes to the VIP section where we were. I was stunned he remember next thing I know he sent a bottle (Of Moet, which I hate BTW) over to section where I was at and gave a head nod. Now I usually don’t get “Star Struck but this was the guy I modeled my game after and he was sending me, couldn’t believe it. Just thought I’d let yall AI haters know that he’s a real cool dude.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:29 am
that's whats up says:
damn Fed, now we know why the Pistons ain’t winnin’.
AI wants to be on the World Series of Poker, not in the NBA Finals.
Wally looked like Zoolander, but in the Dodgeball movie. I had to look twice thinking he was wearing head gear for his braces.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:31 am
Ansonious says:
Nash had more assists than the entire Pistons team that’s just bonkers still I hate how Kerr and Porter are killing my team.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:41 am
GEE..."Signs and Wonders!" says:
Houston Up!
Spurs fans and Laker fans you deserve to have your swag on a hundred thousand million!
Lakers are taking out all of the top teams and basically let LeBron know that if you somehow get past Boston, you AIN’T winning against us.
Spurs basically had to make Boston think, hey had we been in the finals last year…it MIGHT have been a different story.
Nice comeback by my Rockets, but I am mad cause they shouldn’t have to comeback at home against a minor team. Still a W is a W.
Looks like all the playoff contending teams in the West won cept for Utah.
See if this week can match the last. A big trade involving Amare might be the biggest news of this week.
February 9th, 2009 at 8:47 am
Smitty313 says:
I dont see to many roadblocks for the Lakers. The only problem is sometimes they play to the level of their competion, or their competion plays harder against the Lakers. I heard alot about the Cavs bench, they are not on the same level as the Lakers bench. Is Lamar finally going to be aggressive every game, if he is the league should be worried. The Lakers would have a three headed monster that will be unstoppable.
Dime you need to give more shine to Kevin Durant. He will lead the the league in scoring someday. He has one of the best jumpers in the nba, hes strating to go to the whole alot and dunking on people. If his d improves he will be a problem.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:02 am
Heckler...formerly 'yallallreadyknow' says:
we all knew the lakers would end that cavs home win streak. no surprise there.
Lamar Odom needs to ball like that on a consistent basis.
knicks aint gonna win shit until they fire mike d’antoni. as long as he’s the coach, they gonna keep giving up 110pts and keep losing. donnie walsh should have stuck to his gut feeling and hired mark jackson as head coach.
good to see the Wiz get a win. I know we all like caron.
celtcs have some glaring needs. they need an offensive presence of their bench. and i dont mean eddie house.
damn…like everyone else, i dunno how the spurs keep doing it.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:05 am
Heckler...formerly 'yallallreadyknow' says:
youngfed–
get off the nuttsack
February 9th, 2009 at 9:08 am
YOUNGFED..."In Detroit they call me the black Phillip Drummond" says:
@Thats whats up
Yeah appearently dude parties a lot from what my boys tell me he’s always at the casino or club. Maybe he misses the real life ish and is tired of all the hollywood hoopla.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:10 am
Yoooo says:
What yall know about that Joey Jihad KO, LOL… Yall are ridiculous for referencing that one! LOL
February 9th, 2009 at 9:27 am
KBY says:
Well damn it now I’m curious
“… Wally Szczerbiak looks strange enough with the way the black side panels on his nose-protector mask make it look like a helmet. Throw in the goofy headband and the way Wally runs and — eh, let’s just drop it before we get in trouble …”
February 9th, 2009 at 9:43 am
rell says:
I hope these last 2 losses finally convince Ainge to stop sitting on his hands and do something. Against the Lakers and the Spurs whenever Boston go to the bench we lose the lead. You can not win games when your backup 4 and 5 is about 6ft8 each. And Doc start playing Bill Walker more.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:49 am
Kobeef says:
Kobe and Lebron are pretty careful not to destroy each other when they go head to head because they both have the same boss (and I’m not talking about David Stern).
Nike is quite happy to have no clear-cut best player in the world but two contenders. If you get my drift.
February 9th, 2009 at 10:09 am
calvin brodus says:
@joey jihad link
that video is fucking crazy. they also have a longer clip where he gets carjacked after he gets knocked the fuck out. nutty.
speaking of beatings…who would have guessed that chris brown had it in him to smack a woman? im not saying it’s cool he beat up rihanna, i’m just really surprised he had the nerve to do it.
is chris brown related to bobby brown? because that would explain an awful lot if he is.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:06 am
Ian says:
fallinup
“And you could see that Kobe fadeaway over Lebron as the one play….that sealed his MVP trophy.”
really??? its brons mvp still and dwade is in second place
February 9th, 2009 at 11:20 am
YOUNGFED..."I got 2 balls I'ma pass'em to ya Baby Mama" says:
@Ian
If you think Wade is 2nd you should watch more BBall. But I will say DWade has suprised me with his comeback.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:31 am
karizmatic says:
Pop was right they didn’t do anything wrong on defense, out of the three guys you want shooting the ball in the final seconds of the game from 18 feet if you’re playing the Celtics, the guy you want to shoot it is KG. I have to believe the Spurs defense was willing to let KG beat them if that was going to happen. C’mon every team in the league wants KG to shoot 18 footers all day. It’s to KG”S credit he has been hitting those at a more consistent pace than at any other time in his career. But that’s still the shot you give up if you’re playing the Celtics at the end of a ballgame. As evidenced by the Spurs eventual win.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
Damn! Last week, I was sayin we need to ship LO’s ass out, dude turned into a beast against the Celts and Cavs… I’m starting to think we need to trade AB over the off season and keep LO. We could trade for a better three like Gerald Wallace. I hope Morrison can finally get some burn and produce for us, maybe like Kyle Korver in Utah.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:44 am
fallinup says:
@ Haterade
I too was on the same boat..then Lamar goes nuts. Still though, it’s the playoffs that I laugh at Odom most. So we’ll see how that goes.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:46 am
doug says:
anyone else got anything to say about Kobe and Lakers all we do is end streaks. Lebron is the best player aaaaaaaaaah, Cavs and the celtics are going to dust the lakers off aaaaaaaaaaah. Kobe gave this cat sportcenter highlight buckets on a sick stomach, LO dominated, yall kill all this madness about us not being the best team, we are the best team in the L, respect. First team to beat the cavs at home with a sick kobe(literally and figuratively),no Bynum and yes, the cavs had Ilgauska’s which seemed to be the excuse as to why they lost in L.A.LMAO and oh yeah the defending champs who had won 12 in a row prior to seeing us, yeah we beat them too ended that streak like we did the last one when the came to our house having won 19 in a row. It speaks for itself stop disrespecting and give credit where credit is do. Cav fans bite it Kobe is still the best player by far, a sick Kobe had a better game than a healthy lebron. Oh i’m sorry he almost had a tripple double 16pts,12 assist 8 rebounds but he was two rebounds shy, probably 3 rebounds shy the statistician was probably a lebron fan so he gave him an extra rebound(please refer to Knicks game). Kobes time is now, our time is now, we don’t care who got next. Holla back
February 9th, 2009 at 11:50 am
doug says:
rell I hope Ainge sees that too, your very social existence is contingent upon rather or not the celts win and all they’ve been doing is getting kicked in the mouth by visiting teams, no one is scared of these cats anymore and i’ve noticed KG’s trash talking has curtailed since he’s been losing. We want to see you guys in the final not the Cavs,not orlando, you guys. What happened last year won’t happen again this year, get your swag back.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:51 am
fallinup says:
And yes, Ian. I do think Kobe is MVP. Funny thing goes on when they vote for MVP. They ask if player X has made his team better. Yeah, sure, they do look at Player X’s stat sheets as well…but does he make his team better.
It’s one thing to take over your team..hijack if you will.
It’s another thing to lead your team by example…make tough shots when called upon…and defending the best player of the opposing team. Bron looks pretty. But Kobe’s still the best in game to me.
They hide Lebron on defense like they hide Steve Nash. So I guess you can give that to Lebron’s MVP credentials.
February 9th, 2009 at 11:55 am
doug says:
What’s good with you ian good win and definitely was pulling for the spurs over the classless Celts. Gonna have to agree with you young fed, D.Wade can’t be number 2 in the MVP race because of his stats. Check this out the year Kobe was breaking all them record 05-06 35 ppg,81 points in a game, 62 points in three quarters yada yada yada, he finished 3rd or 4th in MVP voting because of his teams record which btw was better than D.Wades team is at this current juncture and D.Wade is playing along side an allstar and has better supporting cast than kobe had in 05-06(starting line-up Smush Parker,Lamar Odom,Luke Walton,Kwame Brown,kobe) D.Wades current line up(Chalmers,S.Marion,Dwade,M.Beasley,Haslem)
February 9th, 2009 at 11:59 am
Celts Fan says:
@ everyone saying the league’s catchibg up w. Us cuz they not intimidated anymore, that’s retarded. We barely lost to LA and SA with HUGE needs at the backup 3 and 5 spots – desperately need to replace PJ and Posey. That’s the reason we ain’t winningthe chip this year, got nothing to do with people getting “intimidated” cuz real champions wouldn’t get intimidated by that shit anyway
February 9th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
doug says:
fallinup i agree I think Kobe is the mvp, he’s played through injury&sicknes, put up big numbers and won big games on the road and we lost a key player. Lebron has Ilgauska’s who contrary to most of your belief has been an all-star before and we have Kobe and Gasol who are all-stars. I know people want so bad to give it to LeBron but Kobe out plays this cat when it counts no matter how he feels,how injured he is or what the circumstance.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
doug says:
Celts fan your gripping right now it’s true cats aren’t scared of yall the Celts are like a hundai with a loud exhaust,making a lot of noise and aint going no where. Yall got kicked in the mouth by LA and San Antonio 1 point, half a point it doesn’t matter it’s the way you guys have lost getting out toughed and out hustled something you guys prided yourself on last season. You guys to me lost your two most important players Posey and PJ Brown. We came into yall house kept are shoes on, ate yall food, kissed your wife, smacked you around and left without cleaning the dishes or thanking you for the meal.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
that's whats up says:
a post 37 – yeah, but this was all done in the REGULAR SEASON.
Shit don’t mean shit until the playoffs
February 9th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
doug says:
Ofcourse, this is all the regular season but this is preperation. There creating habits right now and I believe we have the best road record in the L too. This is stuff we didn’t do last year we didn’t beat these teams on the road last year. All we can talk about right now is the regular season until the playoffs come, nevertheless, there huge wins for us. Do you think Kobe and the Lakers are going to take it down a notch in the playoffs?…..Exactly. That’s why these games mean so much, homecourt through out, momentum and psyche of a team before entering post season play are very important and I like where we’re at.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:28 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Ummmmmmmmmm
Im still not impressed with Lebrons game..
February 9th, 2009 at 12:31 pm
Ian says:
fallinup
bron has one of the top records and less help than kobe so i think the make his team mates better is not even a argument.
doug
of course u agree kobe is the mvp lol u been agreein to that since 98
youngfed
please stop that retarded argument that i should watch more bball its stupid or only your opinion counts?? gtfoh with that shit write something that makes sense if u want to be taken seriously
February 9th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
Ian says:
fallinup
kobe can be the best but since when has the mvp been awarded to the best every year??? laker fans ALL will say hes the best so what really doesnt mean he is to everyone
February 9th, 2009 at 12:36 pm
Ian says:
doug
sup bro the thing the puts dwade in second in my list is that voters dont like to vote for the same guy twice usually and the lakers were expected to be this good usually surprises like wade make more of an impact on kobe.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
Ian says:
bte doug theres a diff how u explained things about wade than youngfed you actually posted a reason young posted bs.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
Ian says:
still think the cavaliers make it to the finals to get the smackdown from the spurs or lakers.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
Doug, you really are the worst homer, even more so than youngfed.
February 9th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
LakeShow84 says:
If Lakers end up with the best record in the NBA and Kobe doesnt win the MVP then it is another example of the Lebron being dubbed KING before he deserves it..
Nash won it over Shaq that one year just because of the record and no way was Nash more dominant than Shaq that year..
How can anyone say Kobe is NOT the MVP at this point?? He caught up to Bron and if you dont think so then somethings up.. Dude had the flu and still outplayed the HYPE.. dude dislocated his finger and still outplayed him.. We have the best record in NBA and we lost a good player and havent missed a beat because our superstar rose to the challenge IMMEDIATELY..
Come on now.. What has Lebron done besides been on every cover of every magazine this year?? And dont say being a beast because other players are putting up beastly numbers as well.. Dwade and Dhoward right off the top of my head.. And Orlando got the record to back it up as well..
But all these East teams play garbage ass bottom feeders on the regular.. we holding down our record in the WEST.. remember 8-9 teams with 50 wins just last year?? yeah right..
February 9th, 2009 at 12:53 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
what made u change your mind about gasol?
February 9th, 2009 at 1:17 pm
doug says:
Nah I feel you Ian, that’s true about them not voting for the same player twice regarding the MVP thing.
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09)?Who are you? what are you talking about i’m the biggest homer and your blog screen name is is Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09)? Man please!
February 9th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
doug says:
Lakeshow 84 i agree completely “If Lakers end up with the best record in the NBA and Kobe doesnt win the MVP then it is another example of the Lebron being dubbed KING before he deserves it..” That is the biggest problem I have with LeBron these cats giving him the King title and this award and he hasn’t earned it. People fail to realize how long and how much hard work year in and year out it took for Kobe to be called the best and for him to even win MVP, look at the people they’ve given MVP’s to before him Nash isn’t even an all-star anymore. Nash is the only player in NBA history to win that award two years in a row and 2-3 from his last MVP not be in the all-star game. Dirk, well you see what the MAVS look like need I say anymore. I just think it’s disrespect to all the work Kobe has put in for the last 12-13 years to be the best player in the L and than Lebron comes in with all this hype and nothing subtantive to back it up and people dub him King. I mean think about it he’s been called “king” james since he came into the league and he’s never even to this date been the undisputed best player in the L. In fact up until last year Kobe was undisputed by even the fans, just now fans started entertaining the debate of him being better than Kobe. The players in the league and greats past even until this date say Kobe is the best in the L by far. Like I said media,Rick Kamla and hyped cav fans need to stop shoving this cat down our throat, when he is the best player in the L you won’t need to put a power point presentation to prove he is everyone will just know he is including the players and the greats. Let water find it’s own level and stop force feeding us LeHype he’s still second tier to Kobe even by his own admission.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
LakeShow84 says:
The Boston game..
He finally manned up.. he disappointed me in the Finals and i still didnt feel he had gotten over that soft thing early in the year.. Bynum is more of an enforcer than Gasol is and i like that..
It was stupid of me to say Bynum is better than Gasol RIGHT NOW.. Bynum is just young so i was juiced about his future.. WAS.. now who knows..
February 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
doug says:
Lakeshow 84, when have you ever heard Jordan or Kobe say that there is another player in the league during the era they were playing in that was better than them. Those cats would never say that. Lebron has said that Kobe is the best player in the L this year and last year on a nationally televised game because he knows it. I even hear this cat at the end of the Lakers Cavs game in L.A. say to Kobe at the end of the game ” I look up to you man”.Who’s really the King if the King is looking up to someone else, his words not mine, deal with it.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:28 pm
fallinup says:
sigh
Am not a Laker fan. I think folks know that I try to look at the league as a whole and try to leave my bias aside. That being said, Kobe is still MVP to me. If Bron gets it, it’s because folks were too busy jizzing at his stat sheet and not how he’s leading his team…or lack there of.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:30 pm
doug says:
-Blog 53 Exactly @ fallin up, that’s all i’m saying people are in denial.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Ian says:
doug
bron doesnt believe that even if he says it. last night duncan said that kg brings it everytime and u better be ready for him u think he believes that?? all superstars think they are the best but they arent gonna say it cuz it looks retarded.
kobe has never been the best undisputed u mentioned what has bron earned but what has kobe earned really since shaq left??
btw i could care less who really wins the mvp in not a wade fan i just pointed out that hes up there for the award YOUNGFED
February 9th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Lol Ian
All Duncan said was KG brings it.. And he does lol he didnt say KG was better.. I dont think saying someone brings it is saying they are better..
LBJ said it flat out.. And on National Television.. come on doo.. quit hating lol
February 9th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Ian says:
when he says that he is kinda givin him props that is what i was tryin to say what lebron meant about kobe but i dont think they wanna say that shit u know in their minds they are “damn i used to woop this bitch when he was in minny now he come to boston and i still woop his ass”
February 9th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
Ian says:
u think if the dude respected kg he would leave his ass open in clutch situations??
February 9th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
doug says:
Ian that’s ridiculous what you just said Man, exactly what Lakeshow 84 said my man, TD just said KG brings it he never said that cat was the best. I don’t know if you got the telecast out there man but I’ve seen interviews on TV with Lebron this year and last year where he is saying this is a quote, ” Kobe is the best player in the league to me” these are Lebrons words not my own man, last I checked the league includes him and Tim Duncan. Again Ian not my words Lebrons, that’s quite different than i guy saying an opponent brings it every night. Yall it’s getting ridiculous with this denial thing this aint hearsay we’ve seen this cat on nationally televised games at half time and during the game commentary say this about Kobe.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:44 pm
doug says:
Ian props are ex.)good game, this guy brings it. Admiration of greatness is Kobe is the best player in the L. There two completely different things Ian, Kobe has said on TV that Manu is nice and he reaks havoc on the court this is props.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:46 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I cant wait for the playoffs..
Hopefully we get to spill Spur blood again..
I know our finals would be tainted if we didnt go through you guys, Ian.. And yes Ariza will slow down Manu lol just hope AB dont make it back.. Cuz even if he comes back and has 10mn of tick he will be effective..
February 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
doug says:
“u think if the dude respected kg he would leave his ass open in clutch situations??”this is respect Ian. Lebron is admiring this cat Kobe by saying that and he plays in the same league as him and his fans say he’s better than Kobe. Kobe wouldn’t leave lebron open either but he’s not going around saying this cat is the best player in the L because it’s simply not the truth. Kobe knows he is, he doesn’t have to proclaim he is on T.V like Pierce he let’s the players and the greats of the game say that about him.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:47 pm
Ian says:
shit i said it was an example of the crap players say doesnt mean they buy it. i guess it sounded better in spanish when i had the words in my head.
but again its an EXAMPLE and doug btw did u see how lebron ended the sentence he said TO ME not to everyone or that it was a fact.
besides we are not gettin into the duncan kobe thing because i remember u tellin me kobes resume is more impressive so i dont know what to say about that.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:49 pm
doug says:
I respect the spurs, there formidable contenders I just can’t see anybody beating the Lakers in 7 if we do end up getting homecourt through out. They proved alot to me on this road trip. Bynum goes down the 2nd quarter of the 2nd game of a roadie and the lakers go 6-0 on a roadie that include the supposed two best teams in the L and definitely the two best teams in the eat. That says alot man.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:50 pm
aj says:
Tim D is the MVP this year IMO. Do Kobe or LeBron or Dwayne deserve it? Sure they do but if you think MVP is most valuable to their team, then it’s Timmy D.
Someone needs to answer Ian’s question:
“kobe has never been the best undisputed u mentioned what has bron earned but what has kobe earned really since shaq left??”
And to all you who are jumping on LeBron for saying Kobe is the best player in the league…LeBron is just trying to come across as the anti-Kobe. Humble, a team player, ect…
February 9th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
Ian says:
doug
again yes those are good examples all i said is that players say that crap but for real u think they believe that???
and tell me why to U people who say kobe is better than bron know basketball and the people who say bron is better or duncan is better know shit???
ALL I SAID IS THAT PLAYERS SAY THAT SHIT TO LOOK HUMBLE AND GOOD relax
lakeshow
i wanted that 8th seed so bad this season when we started crappy but i guess wcf will do.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Oh it does say alot!
We there baby! lol dont trip Doug.. i dont think people want their teams to make it as much as they want the Lakers to NOT make it lol
Its hard for people to accept our DYNASTY all over again lol..
Oh yeah i said it!
February 9th, 2009 at 1:53 pm
Ian says:
aj
tim keep the spurs in the playoffs with fuckin d leaguers as teammates
but u think people appreciate shit NO.
doug
lets make a friendly bet here ill take the field u take the lakers??
February 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
LakeShow84 says:
And for the record i would take a young Tim Duncan over Kobe and Lebron..
Dude is just a champion.. Its not hard to see Kobe doing the things he does because all that crazy shit is in Kobe’s box.. But Tim Duncan comes out of his box and gets shit done in the CLUTCH..
Before Fishers .4 shot Duncan hit the top of the key fade over Shaq and couldnt even see the rim.. Then last years game tying three made me love him all over again lol
And in my opinion Tim Duncan is more clutch than Lebron..
February 9th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
Ian says:
aj
the only real answer to the question is SHIT that is what he has accomplished well he won them bymun being a lottery team. ONE time outta the first round and fans like lakeshow call the lakers a dynasty wow. meanwhile duncan has YET to lose in the first round doesnt have gasol gift wrapped to him and people dont realize this man is just as effective as when he came in the league.
i remember when we did the top 15 players in the league lists some dudes had ray allen on the list and not duncan u tell me what u think about that.
February 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
lol remember the shot duncan hit before that one of the glass moving the ball away from shaq but that game made me cry so i cant get excited about it.
id take a young duncan over almost anyone ever but id still take him for one season over bron and kobe.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:05 pm
LakeShow84 says:
That lottery year Kobe missed like 20 games because of gay ass Anderson Varejao..
Severely sprained Ankle..
If Tim Duncan left for 20 games and you guys didnt have Parker or Ginobli ya’all asses would be lottery certified as well lol
February 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
Austin Burton says:
“If Lakers end up with the best record in the NBA and Kobe doesnt win the MVP then it is another example of the Lebron being dubbed KING before he deserves it..”
Yeah, but I remember a lot of Lakers fans being mad when Dirk won MVP in 2007 and his team had the best record.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:08 pm
doug says:
Aj what are you talking about, the polls that SI conducts every year, Kobe is always the most feared opponent, best clutch player, they don’t have a category for best player in the L but that pretty much says it this voted on by players and coaches. As far as people actually saying Kobe is the best player in the L look no furhter than the greats:MJ,Magic,Bird,Isaiah Thomas,Drexler,Jerry West, hell even Rick Barry,Shaq,Lebron,Carmello,Pat Riley(coach)I’ve seen with my own eyes on TV all these cats say Kobe is the best player in the L, this year and last year. Never have I seen anyone say TD or Bron are the best player I’ve hear Mr.Fundamental and best Forward of all-time but sorry man none of these cats say that and to answer your question what has Kobe done since shaq left? That ridiculous let’s see where should I start break like half of jordans scoring records, take a team that was desimated personel wise a build it from the ground up back into a contender, win league mvp,win a gold medal,lead the league in scoring 3 times and yes he lead the league in scoring points last year not Lebron. Lebron the league in scoring avg.Kobe scored the most points in the L for the third year in a row please check your stats and oh yeah take his team to the finals and put his team in a position to be the overwhelming favorites in vegas and among players and coaches polls to win it all this year. Furthermore, he’s won allstar MVP been on NBA first team and Defensive Team every year since shaq left accept the 04-05 season because he was injured and oh yea that marketing thing number 1 jersey sales in USA,China and Europe this year get more endorsements and ultimately 180 his image since the Colorado situation, something Advertising and marketing gurus says is unprecedented when his marketability took such a great hit, no one has ever done that. Does that answer your question gay-J. Wake up man.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:12 pm
LakeShow84 says:
And Tim Duncan had Avery Scott, David Robinson, Tony Parker and Manu Ginobli to help him through his playoff games..
i would say those four and great management helped TD get past the first round..
you think we wouldve made the playoffs with Chucky Atkins and Chris Mihm as our 1 and 5′s?? oh yeah and then Smush Parker (who aint even close to a PG) and Kwame the next year?? oh yeah and Rudy T was our coach that first year..
Tim Duncan is the greatest player in his position but he happens to have great management AND coaching as well.. He will be a Spur for life ONLY because they made it possible..
How many HOF’s switched teams so they could win because management wasnt doing shit??
February 9th, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Ian says:
austin
great point
doug
jesery sales??? scoring titles ??? contender??? one season.
so u practically described the orlando tmac.
and u never heard duncan is the best??? really what have ive been listenin to because till 2006 more or less it was duncan all the way now its a debate
i rank the best as the player that gives me the best chance at winning a title. u mentioned all nba but doesnt duncan have more 1st teams both ways in fact duncan holds the record and one more mvp and 3 more finals mvp. now if u r comparing kobe to bron then yes i said kobe is a bit better but in no way kobe is more impressive resume wise than duncan.
what is your def of it doug?
February 9th, 2009 at 2:16 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Ooooo did i illicit a response from one of the head cheese?? lol
Hell yeah i was mad.. I ride and die wit my boy.. what u got me quoted from 07′ Austin?? shit
When Shaq lost it to Nash i was even more happy lol even though Nash didnt deserve it..
February 9th, 2009 at 2:18 pm
Ian says:
lakeshow
be real avery johnson??? he was dead almost when duncan came in? bro go google duncans 99 team jackson mario ellie kersey bro please.
how many dudes in the history of the nba have won with completly diff teams??? duncan is the only one i can think about.
u know what funny picking sides when we talk about players alone yall go o manu is a role player parker isnt that great but when we talk duncan its because he has manu and parker pick a side.
if a sg like kobe took that team to the first round trust me duncan does also at least that.
celts , bulls , lakers are the only teams with more titles now compare all teams and tell me if duncan doesnt have the weakest cast around him.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:19 pm
LakeShow84 says:
You guys cant compare Kobe and TD..
Thats harder than comparing Kobe and Lebron.. Position wise.. Both are winners and both are timeless.. plus i love both so im stuck on that one lol
February 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Ian says:
lake , doug , aj
like always its been good but gotta go
doug u gettin better lol u r insulting less now when arguin online.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
aj says:
gay-J. Great one. How late you stay up last night thinking up that zinger?
Anywho, all-stars and especially all-star MVP’s mean jack when talking about all-time greats. For the record, I think Kobe is better than LeBron. But that’s good stuff “kobe building his team from the ground up.” What exactly are Kobe’s team-building excersises? Mocking players to a video cell phone? Jacking from the opening tip of a game 6 to only taking 1 shot in the 2nd half of a game 7.
Kobe is a rich man’s Rasheed Wallace. Just like Wallace coulda been great but settled for good, Kobe coulda been one of the very greatest if not the greatest but settled for great. Can’t play well with others in a team sport.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:20 pm
Austin Burton says:
I’m just saying, you can’t pin Kobe’s 2009 MVP campaign on “L.A. has the best record” and also say Dirk’s 2007 MVP was undeserved.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:21 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I say Tony Parker is a HOF if keeps his shit up!
February 9th, 2009 at 2:22 pm
KDizzle(6-0 - Haterproof) says:
@ post #2
I read this and would ask if you were serious -
“Our archilles heel would have to be Kobe Bryant and his triangle obscurring shot selection.i have said time and time again Kobe is his own worst enemy.Yesterday Lakers were rolling, he was sick and still wanted to be the H.N.I.C”
WTF? Fake Laker fans, please get off the bandwagon. If Kobe takin 17 shots is the team’s problem, you didn’t see the game, cuz in no way was Kobe jackin. At the beginnin of the 3rd, Kobe hit his first two shots to set the tone, then Lamar went off to take over the game. Kobe took one more shot. Did you see the game?
Also to fake Laker fans sayin “Lamar needs to be traded”, please go away. This is why non-Laker fans have issues with some of these suspect individuals. Lamar havin a good game doesn’t mean you should be lookin to get rid of Bynum. Where that logic even come from?
Ok, done the rant;
On a side note, damn near died laughin at Lebron’s -warmups pulled past the bellybutton, Kobe imitation at the olympics
-straight comedy
February 9th, 2009 at 2:26 pm
LakeShow84 says:
But thats what its been right Austin??
In 06′ there was outrage KB could have put up those numbers and not won MVP and the excuse was the record.. Same with Shaq and Nash.. Shaq won it the next year too right?? im not sure (seriously) but didnt the Heat have the best record that year as well?? And last year if the Hornets wouldve had the better record CP3 wouldve been MVP..
Everyone thought the Mavs were about to crack 70 wins that year Dirk won his.. They had the best record in the L..
So unless the record thing is being used to give white guys MVP’s it better make full FRICKIN cycle again this year.. i hate inconsistency..
February 9th, 2009 at 2:33 pm
doug says:
ian that wasn’t one season, TMAC are you serious when has tmac one an mvp?gold medal?been selected to nba defensive first team? Kobe has been top in jersey sales for the past couple of years? Come on Ian, Tmac wow? when his any player ever said this cat was best player in the L? man please.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:34 pm
LakeShow84 says:
You callin me a suspect fan K-Dizz??
Lamar had a good game and a good dub against Boston but if he disappears in the playoffs AGAIN his ass needs to go.. dont forget his inconsistent ass body of work because of a good stretch.. he was a man in the playoffs for the first three rounds and then VANISHED in the Finals..
Once again.. i hate inconsistency..
February 9th, 2009 at 2:36 pm
doug says:
““kobe building his team from the ground up.” What exactly are Kobe’s team-building excersises? Mocking players to a video cell phone? Jacking from the opening tip of a game 6 to only taking 1 shot in the 2nd half of a game 7″ whatever it takes to win Ghandi, MJ fought his players and you revere him as great, and he shot more than the average. yall are ridiculous that nickname came pretty aj, it’s just fitting for you.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:38 pm
doug says:
“Kobe coulda been one of the very greatest if not the greatest but settled for great. Can’t play well with others in a team sport” your a funny dude AJ I responded to ians question thoroughly and did extra credit and now you throw something else out going at how he motivates his teammates all the greats were notorious for the cruel treatment of there teammates MJ,Magic,Bird and you only go at Kobe….interestingly bias.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:39 pm
doug says:
exactly, i feel u lakeshow.blog 85
February 9th, 2009 at 2:41 pm
doug says:
I don’t even read K.Dizzle blogs that guys is a tool and he never makes any sense.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
Doug, all I’m sayin is I see the flaws in the Lakers, you don’t appear too. Yes, Kobe is my favorite player, LA is my favorite team, but LO needed to step up and Bynum needs to stay healthy. I mean WTF? If he can’t then maybe we should trade him for Tyson Chandler, I have always liked his defensive presence since he was at Compton.
February 9th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
aj says:
Now I ain’t saying Kobe’s gotta be all nicey-nice, like LeBron, who never calls anyone out. Ya gotta take a stance and expect greatness. Kobe is just too consumed with being an individual great as opposed to a champion. Now this ain’t all Kobe’s fault but how do you not see the benefits of playing with Shaq and essentially making management choose between two of the top 5 players of their time. Why not keep both on the same team??? Brilliant. I’m convinced if they woulda stayed together the Lakers would be working on a 10-peat or something ridiculous.
When you forego all-time greatness for individual ego, you got a little something missing between the ears.
LeBron is in the same individual boat. He’s too worried about marketing and becoming rich and popular to really be special. Sure he’ll put up numbers and people will love him but I don’t see him winning a chip unless he pulls a KG and gets traded to a team with other superstars at the end of his career. There are too many other teams being built that will be in the Spurs team-first-mold (POR, UTAH, MIA) for LeBron to win multiple chips.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:06 pm
Ian says:
aj
a ten peat??? how cuz they were together in o3 and 04 and didnt win.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
AJ– both Shaq and Kobe were to blame for the dynasty break up. The Lakers didn’t want to extend Shaq to 30 million per and the fact that he called out Mr. Buss was enough reason for them to let him go and the Lakers had already decided that they were going to let Shaq go.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
Ian says:
aj besides u know u gotta keep the young one if u gotta let one go
February 9th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
doug says:
Nah them i’m with you Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says”but LO needed to step up and Bynum needs to stay healthy”. I agree completely with this. The lakers have areas they can improve upon, by no means am I saying there out the clear but I think there a better team this year than they were last year.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Ian says:
comon doug if u say they arent out the clear who can beat them because u say theres no way the spurs or cavs or celts can then who?
February 9th, 2009 at 3:25 pm
doug says:
nah ian i’m not saying there is no way, I’m saying it’s less than likely they can beat them if they do get that homecourt through out, it’s going to be really hard to win 4 out of 7 under those circumstances but anything can happen.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:33 pm
BROGDEN says:
@64 — HELL YEAH!
Lakers are TOUGH.
EVEN without BYNUM.
THE LEAGUE HAS BEEN PUT ON NOTICE.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:35 pm
control says:
IF Spurs finish over the Lakers, then you gotta give MVP to Tim Duncan. The first 20 games or so he was balling with a pickup crew from the Y. One of the few times I’ve ever not heard of 4 guys on the court at the same time was when Tim Duncan was playing with those 4 guys in a few games at the beginning of the season.
Timmy ain’t flashy or anything, but he’s the best big man in the game, and def the most consistent.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
doug says:
blog 100-Exactly
February 9th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
doug says:
control with all do respect to the spurs, after what we showed the world control do you honestly think the spurs have a snowsballs chance in hell of overtaking the lakers for number in the west, currently there 7 games behind the Lakers, Kobe aint going to let that happen control dream on. Wow.Lol
February 9th, 2009 at 3:46 pm
doug says:
6-0 on a roadie that included the two best teams in the east at there house.c’mon man.
February 9th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
control says:
doug
It ain’t impossible, as much as you are on their jock, the Lakers COULD go on a 5-8 game losing streak. I think they have a shittun of road games coming up too don’t they? Maybe Phil SHOULD rest Kobe for a few games…the guy’s hand is all busted up.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:09 pm
KDizzle(6-0 - Haterproof) says:
@ Lakeshow
I ain’t comin at you, playa. I read in the first 2 posts some dude sayin kobe’s the “problem” with the Lakers so I took offense to that. You can’t say you a Laker fan then say Kobe’s a problem or he was jackin when dude took one shot in the 4th…with the flu…over Lebron and got nuthin but bottom.
I don’t know who wrote that other shit about LO and AB, but Lamar has a big game and someone posts that the team needs to trade Bynum, tell me how that makes sense?
@ Doug and
“I don’t even read K.Dizzle blogs that guys is a tool and he never makes any sense.”
U got an issue with my opinion, post yours or like you said, don’t read em. thanks
February 9th, 2009 at 4:10 pm
doug says:
5-8 on a roadie?????????? hell nah, they just came out on the other end of a roadie that consisted of the two top eastern conference teams and went 6-0. Like I said less than likely 8 losses to who?we play away games at utah,golden state,minnesota,oklahoma city,denver and oklahoma at home tomorrow,Atlanta at home on the 17th,New Orleans at home on the 20th,phoenix on the 26th I just don’t see it happening.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:11 pm
doug says:
KDizzle(6-0 – Haterproof) says: it took you a long time to think of that, yeah I don’t read your post I read everyone elses post ripping you.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:12 pm
BROGDEN says:
After watching the top 2 in the East and the top 2 in the West, I’ve concluded that…
Cavs need a formidable INTERIOR defender with POLISHED offensive skills.
Spurs need a formidable INTERIOR defender with POLISHED offensive skills.
The only thing that separates the Cavs and the Spurs from the rest of the league is the impact of their respective superstars. If it wasn’t for Lebron or Timmy, those guys would be in the middle of the pack.
Only the CAVS and SPURS have OBVIOUS weaknesses. They rely too much on the 3-pointer and can’t get many easy buckets in the paint. That’s gonna hurt ‘em in the long run.
They better make a move.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
KDizzle(6-0 - Haterproof) says:
@ doug
took me a long time to think of what?
What are you even talkin about?
Ain’t no award for being the “biggest laker fan” whatever that means.
When you rip on a dude’s post, make sure he’s actually talkin to you or even disagreein with you cuz you comin after me cuz I’m defendin Kobe or LO makes sense only to you
February 9th, 2009 at 4:24 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
If Bynum doesn’t get healthy and stay healthy, why not? Dude has had 2 season ending injuries, I mean if Bynum is not going to stay healthy then yes, the Lakers with how young they are could conceivably trade him for a better starter than Luke and draft pick they could turn into a serviceable big. It seems to me that both LO and Pau play better when AB isn’t around. I don’t think that’s a coincidence.
February 9th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
KDizzle(6-0 - Haterproof) says:
@ Haterade
so you wanna trade Bynum for who then? Ain’t like any other big in the league stays healthy. They all miss games – Bogut, Oden, Bynum, Chandler, Yao, Shaq, Horford – evrybody center but Dwight and Duncan seem to miss games.
We may be playin better when he’s out, but don’t forget it’s all about Boston, Cleveland, or San An in June and we killin teams now, but it’s all about those 4 wins we need in june. We got a nice mix at the 3 spot and don’t forget, we haven’t even seen Morrison in the triangle yet…
February 9th, 2009 at 4:45 pm
the cynic says:
“6-0 on a roadie that included the two best teams in the east at there house.c’mon man.”
Didn’t the Magic do something like that this year?
February 9th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Ian says:
brogden
so the cavs need a tim duncan and the spurs need another tim duncan???
doug
damn if someone that has never watch basketball before heard u speak laker people would think they win everyseason and go 82-0.
control tim doesnt need the 1 seed he should be in it with a number 2 seed. almost everyone predicted the spurs wouldnt have homecourt in the first round yet like always there they are
February 9th, 2009 at 4:49 pm
the cynic says:
@Brogden
Every team needs that. And I have to disagree about the spurs not getting easy shots, they run a pretty crisp offense that produces plenty of lay ups in the half court sets.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:00 pm
BROGDEN says:
Ian – YES!
Bonner and Mason can’t be relied on for their D. Especially not Bonner. Hate to add Mason but I remember his Wiz days and I still gotta see more.
Manu’s formidable but is inclined to get beat,also.
Cynic – Not every team falls to sleep while the weak side cuts. Pop’s a great coach and is good for a couple of major game-changing adjustments in strategy but he stills need the personnel. Boston was JUST over agressive. Not every team’s gonna fall for that. Hence, that’s why they get beat every now and then. When the layups aint there and Timmy’s a one-man show and the 3′s aint fallin and Kurt and Bowen’s threes aint falling and Parker’s shot aint fallin…like I said…the way they are constituted now, they need another Timmy.
It aint always crisp.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:03 pm
Ian says:
damn brogden i liked the manu is formidable comment.
but kurt takes threes?
and damn bro no team wins like that u mentioned all players and said when their shot aint fallin i can say that for everyteam.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
Doug u are on Kobe’s dick hard.U keep bringing up what Jordan and them said.(supposodly)Mike the same dude who thought Kwame and Adam was the shit.Fall back off of Kobe’s nuts.U are the worse homer on here.The Cavs let LO look like Karl Malone out there thats why they lost.they basically shut it down at halftime and LA stepped it up.Kobe’s fadeaway made him MVP?U dudes must have never played the game making BS statements like that.Kobe wasnt sick neither.Anybody notice he always got some BS going for big games.I think Kobe vs Bron will never live up to the hype until the chip because they respect eachother so much.The chip turns friends to enemys.Thats why hard fouls and shit like that make the game so great.Make u man up.Bron should’ve switched over to LO.They had fucking Wally on him getting whored.He guarding Kobe for nothing.Kobe wasnt even doing shit stop the man who hurting yall.And LO aint have Bron in check dime.Anybody could see they do what Beantown did to them and Cleveland last year.Put 5 on the man and fuck everybody else.But LA other players stepped it up.Especially Odom and Farmar.People like Doug come on here and talk shit about Bron and dickride Kobe and try to make excuses like its because people like Bron so much.Bullshit yall just wanna drink Kobe babies!Subpar game from both.Bron or Kobe aint do shit.Regular season means jackshit.LA WAS winning on the road last year they had the 2nd best record in the league.I seen 6th seeds win the chip.Until April this shit dont mean a thing unless u trying to get in the top 8.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
I know every big get’s hurt and the Lakers need those 4 wins in June, I understand the need for him, I get that the Lakers need a big that’s at least capable of challenging shots, but the problem I am having is that seeing so much promise two years in row and then bam, season for this young big is over, that bothers me. I just want his ass on the court to play and stop teasin us.
I also think that we will have to eventually trade either LO or Bynum. LO is better as a starter and Bynum is going to be a starter when he comes back. So LO will go back to the bench where he’s not as effective.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
And Timmy is better than both of them anyway.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:40 pm
doug says:
Doc(i like kobe AND bron) your a politician, you speak nothing but double talk, I pay you no mind.”The Cavs let LO look like Karl Malone “ridiculous so the LO had nothing to do with that, that was all about what the cavs let happen? Man your an idiot has nothing to do with being a homer, Bron went 5-20 and missed all of his free-throws like he always does, he’s not on kobes level you can’t put him on his level until LeBron shoots better than 70% from free-throw line and develops a consistent jumper, he hasn’t done that yet and that was evidenced on national tv against the lakers for everyone to watch, you can’t take over a game on your home floor with a sick Kobe and no Bynum? This is why so many players still won’t put him ahead of Kobe, say bye-bye to that 23 home game winning streak.Like I said yall keep hating we’ll keep winning and ending streaks.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
LAballer says:
damn it feels good to be a laker fan…
February 9th, 2009 at 5:45 pm
doug says:
“Kobe wasnt sick neither.Anybody notice he always got some BS going for big games”LMAO, wow your quite the conspiracy theorist, how’s this one there is such thing as aliens too and the government hiding it at area 51.LMAO, wow how did you gather this information that Kobe wasn’t sick, just because he grits it out and performs at a pace a feable guy like you can’t doesn’t mean he’s faking an illness. You didn’t see that cat on the side line looking like he just got off 1 week non-stop boat ride, Lamar said he was getting IV’s and throwing up at half-time, yeah your a hater DOC your one of those guys who wants to stay ignorant and doesn’t want anyone trying to change your ignorant views with stupid things like facts and reality and stop stealing my lines”fall back”.Who the hell is gassing this cat?
February 9th, 2009 at 5:47 pm
doug says:
LAballer says,doesn’t it.”To live and die and L.A it’s the place to be, you’ve got to be here to know, everybody wants to see.” I embrace the haters today we got the best record I expected nothing but hater comments today.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:50 pm
doug says:
“And Timmy is better than both of them anyway”LMAO,yeah why are the players and fans including him in the debate.LMAO….because he’s not lebron and kobe fans can atleast agree upon that. But how about you,rangerjohn, spurs fans and people of the like have a debate about that amongst yourself, while the rest of the world discusses the two players that are actually worthy of this debate. TD is great it’s just not his time, he’s had his time.
February 9th, 2009 at 5:51 pm
doug says:
the cynic says, who cares about the magic they won’t make it out of the 2nd round.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:07 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
it’s good to have haters!!!!!!!!!
February 9th, 2009 at 6:12 pm
doug says:
you hear that cat Doc Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09),Lakeshow 84 and LABaller this cat DOC thinks kobe faked his sickness on Sunday?LMAO Hey DOC oh wiseman is Kobe’s 2 fingers really healthy, does his middle one still work?LMAO this cat has really lost it.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:18 pm
Ian says:
doug hes had his time???
please dude relax timmeh won in 07
when was the last time bron and kobe won
the reason td isnt talked about is because hes not flashy. name me one player that has a better chance at winning a title with any team?? NONE kobe beens outta the first round once!!!!!!!!!! u like to always mention the opinions that agree with u but like to bash the bron argument love how u take sides on stuff first bron isnt in the debate because he doesnt have kobe jumper and now its timmeh who isnt in the same class as bron and kobe because it is a debate??? dude wtf is all this. bron doesnt have kobes jumper but kobe doesnt rebound or pass like bron so please tell me why the tie breaker is a jumpshot??? duncan is better than both because me , ranger , doc and some dude in cnnsi said so and those are the only opinions that count (this is what u do my man).
February 9th, 2009 at 6:20 pm
Ian says:
and doc did mention something EVERYTIME kobe is off hes always holding something like hes hurt so lets forget that. one fadeway made kobe the mvp that sir is bs. kobe didnt lead his team to that win odom did he had a bad game.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:24 pm
doug says:
ian kobe was sick, you and him need to come off that conspiracy theorist stuff, you saw that cat on the sidelines and he was doubled over with towels on his head and I suppose he held Lamar at gunpoint and told him to tell the reporter at the end of the game that he got IVs at half-time and was throwing up.Come on you guys that’s so over the top, you guys are reaching to a point that it’s sounding ridiculous.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
I think Kobe lead by example… When he was out there guarding LBJ… I think his toughness showed and therefore everyone else in the second half stepped up
February 9th, 2009 at 6:27 pm
Ian says:
doug
i didnt mention last night in special but kobe has done that besides why the hell im i even talking about this lol my prob is with the duncan thing.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:28 pm
doug says:
but thats not what you do man? than the best player is all about perspective, if the players are backing you than I tend to agree, if your a fanatic with Kobe,TD,Lebron fatheads and bobbleheads in your room and your logic is blinded by your craziness and loyalty to a particular player than I tend to not listen. I don’t own one kobe jersey,bobble head anything, I’m a fan of the game and it just so happens that Kobe is the best in the game. Doc,Ranger John,karizmatic,Ian I respect your ability to have an opinion but I don’t respect your opinion that TD is the best in the L.That’s it.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:29 pm
Ian says:
wow laker fans relax now kobe lead by example when he has a bad game and they win they win because he leads by example???? wtf
February 9th, 2009 at 6:31 pm
Ian says:
then say that but dont say we are crazy (ranger sometimes gets excited about his spurs but thats ok) or stupid and dont know shit about basketball if its an opinion.
didnt u tell me that kobe has been the best since 01 a while back??? now tell me if thats even true when kobe wasnt even the best on his team
February 9th, 2009 at 6:34 pm
doug says:
ian Kobe shot close to 50 percent outscored lebron with 19 points and he didn’t have a bad game he was sick man, that’s not a bad game, without his 19 points they would have lost do the math man, if that was TMAC he would’ve sat out. Yall are ridiculous a bad game is a healthy kobe shooting 5 for 20 and missing half of his free-throws, oops that’s lebrons stat line. No excuse for that cat, he looked healthy to me, no injuries, just a bad game on your home court in front of your home crowd.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
Ian says:
bad game in a sense for him subpar and comon we cant just substract pts doesnt work that way but theres no way u can tell me odom wasnt the mvp of the game and yes bron a awful game.
u cant compare no one to tmac talking injuries u r insulting someone doin that
February 9th, 2009 at 6:40 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Lol
February 9th, 2009 at 6:42 pm
doug says:
expected subpar performance from Kobe due to the illness but I agree L.O showed up definitely the MVP of the game.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
Ian says:
damn when is the next spurs lakers game??
ps
8 more days for street fighter 4 damn
February 9th, 2009 at 6:47 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Whatever it is what it is Doc, Ian and whoever..
We got the best team with the best player..
Who once again showed why he is the best in the NBA.. Having the flu and guarding the other teams best player not to mention SECOND best player in the NBA and actually holdin it down?? DH Haterade said it best, it trickled down to the team.. What does Lebron make people dunk harder?? He is the reigning MVP right now so quit acting like it shouldnt be happening.. Only difference is now the haters are getting rabid because they see their golden hope might not get the next MVP trophy..
And DOC you straight smokin if you think that man wasnt sick.. you smarter than that doo so i hope you was just messing with Doug..
February 9th, 2009 at 6:51 pm
doug says:
The laker play spurs in san antonio on March 12, I’ll be in Puerto rico burried in white sand,taking in sun and swimming in aqua blue water, I won’t be watching this game.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
Ian says:
LOL dont worry doug if its an early sunday game i wont either u know where ill be. ill prob miss work thursday to hit the beach cuz it rained alot this weekend.
February 9th, 2009 at 6:55 pm
doug says:
LakeShow84 thats the funny part I really think Doc was serious.I’ve read some of that cats post and he definitely seems like one of those conspiracy theorist, he’s probably looking to the heavens right now for that saucer to beam it’s rays down on him.LMAO.That or he’s fighting and scratching to not give Kobe the credit he deserves but oh yeah he’s a politician “doc (i like kobe AND bron)”What a weak stance! I like them both too but Kobe is better, this cat has two mouths it’s so confussing.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:01 pm
doug says:
hey ian why didn’t yall have the Carribean World Series in DR this year, they had it in mexico. i heard it’s off the chain when yall have it out there
February 9th, 2009 at 7:11 pm
Ian says:
it was here last year we take turns last years was better cuz my team won and represented dr. lol u know how we get into baseball here but u r right ive seen the games in pr and they dont enjoy it as much as we do.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:24 pm
doug says:
yeah they should have it in the DR every year,it’s better than PR,Venezuela(no human should live there,my boys said it was suggested to him that he hire personal body gaurds when he was walking the streets down there).Mexico is just dirty.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:38 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
Im wrong for liking Kobe and Bron.I think Im the one with common sense on that one.U never heard me say Bron better I just come at the people who talk reckless like he aint shit.They both tough to me.Where did this rule come in at that if you like one u cant like the other.All the shit u talked then u say u like both at the end.Thats the kind of shit Im talking about.Yeah he put up a stinker out there we all seen it,but if that make him trash what are the rest of the ballers.LA got the best record and best team on Febuary 9,2009,which does NOT mean shit.Unless you’re a LA fan.Im not mad at that talking shit about your team because they balling but I come at the absurd.And saying Bron is trash becase he dont have Kobe offensive skill is absurd.Whoever like Bron better aint crazy they just appreciate more than offensive beauty.Kobe been the top offensive player since Shaq fell off and he aint win a thing yet.Thats all Im saying.Maybe this year but LO and Pau are pussies.LO was doing this shit last year too.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:40 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
And yeah Kobe might’ve been faking.His ass aint look sick on the court.Just when he was on the pine with the cameras on him.He into that.I dont even think his fingers fucked up,he be dunking hard as shit.
February 9th, 2009 at 7:42 pm
doc (i like kobe AND bron) says:
When Paul Pierce ass went out on a wheelchair then came back to bust yall ass yall said he was faking but I’M wrong for saying Kobe did it.
February 9th, 2009 at 9:20 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I aint saying you wrong Doc (even though you are) but he looked pale (makeup?? i doubt it) and he was hunched over the whole game.. He looked gassed in the first quarter and Kobe dont even looked gassed in the FOURTH quarter..
Pierce acted like he tore a LIGAMENT in his KNEE and came back hoppin around hitting threes and not missing a step.. Im not saying Pierce faked it but they certainly over did that shit..
And yeah Kobe left the court early, declined interviews and had fake IV tubes hooked up to him to SELL the whole flu thing.. come on mayne.. be real at least..