A Paul Pierce vs. Vince Carter Shootout
It’s nice when the Celtics’ stars can be humble, but really, forget all that “Rajon Rondo is the most important player on the team” stuff: Boston only goes as far as Paul Pierce takes them. Last night in Jersey—where a crowd heavy with NYC transplants was booing Stephon Marbury whenever he got the ball—Pierce engaged in a circa-2002 shootout with Vince Carter, which ended with The Truth eviscerating the Nets in crunch time … The Celtics were up 13 early in the fourth, as Doc kept Steph, House, Walker, Powe and Moore on the court for a good chunk of the quarter. But then VC hit a three, Devin Harris got some buckets, Jarvis Hayes dropped a triple, and the next thing you know, it’s tied with two and a half minutes to go. That’s when Pierce (31 pts, 12-14 FG) took over. He baited Hayes into a foul while sticking a pull-up J, then completed the three-point play. After Hayes was perfect on a three-shot foul and Vince stuck a trey to put NJ on top, Pierce assisted Ray Allen on a three that tied it back up, then with about 20 seconds left, stepped back on Hayes on the baseline and gave him another jumper that proved to be the game-winner. Vince (34 pts, 13-21 FG) had a chance to tie, driving past Pierce but missing a tough shot over two defenders … After Ray’s three, Mikki was on the bench doing the Pedro Cerrano. Is it just us, or does Mikki have a constant mean-mug? Even when he’s not in the game he looks pissed. He’s one of those dudes who’s probably ice-grilling in his wedding photos … D-Wade put together yet another convincing compilation that he’s the most complete guard in the NBA, and would have done so even if you only caught the last 4-5 minutes of Miami’s win over the Suns. The Heat were never in serious trouble, thanks to Flash making plays all over the court: Chasing down Grant Hill and Budingering his layup off the backboard; falling to his knees with the ball, and before Jason Richardson could tie him up and call “First,” passing from the floor to Udonis Haslem for an open jumper; drilling a pull-up in J-Rich’s eye (after which the cameras caught Tim Hardaway in the stands laughing his ass off); and in the end, repeatedly getting himself into the lane and to the line to seal it with free throws … One time Wade (35 pts, 16 asts) got knocked on his back by Shaq, and stayed sprawled out on the floor while Diesel just stood over him and (jokingly?) glared at him for a good 10 seconds without offering a hand. The Miami crowd and the announcers were all over Shaq for that …
Dirk Nowitzki (photo. Isom)When it mattered most, the Mavs were able to rely on Dirk and defense to beat the Spurs. With about four minutes left, Dirk (24 pts, 12 rebs) hit a three and then another jumper to put Dallas up by 10 and had the arena literally shaking. (Jeff Van Gundy to Dirk after the three: “You can’t stick your tongue out!”) Those should have been the daggers, but Tony Parker (37 pts) kept San Antonio alive until the Mavs made a couple big defensive plays at the end. With 30 seconds left and Dallas up five, San Antonio couldn’t get the ball inbounds and had to burn their last timeout; on the ensuing possession, the Mavs wouldn’t let Michael Finely or Roger Mason—the two guys you want taking that three-pointer if you’re the Spurs—get open, forcing Parker to take and miss a corner three … After AK-47 dropped a between-his-legs no-look pass to Kyle Korver cutting along the baseline (with an over-exaggerated fake handoff thrown in for extra misdirection), Yao Ming definitely got caught dropping an F-bomb on the Houston bench. The Jazz picked up the W, their ninth in a row, behind Deron Williams’ 26 points and 14 dimes, and Carlos Boozer’s 20 and 17 boards … Other notable stat lines from Wednesday: LeBron scored 23 in a win over Milwaukee; Rudy Gay dropped 35 in a win over the Clippers; Antawn Jamison scored 29 in a loss to the Thunder; and Joakim Noah went for 14 points, 17 rebounds and four blocks in a rout over Golden State … Here’s Portland announcer Mike Rice’s scouting report of Roy Hibbert: “He’s real tall, over 7-feet, and has real long arms. But he doesn’t have that soft touch around the basket, so he’s gonna miss a lot of layups.” That’s nice to hear if you’re an Indiana fan, that your big man of the future will have trouble making layups … The Pacers were in control for three and a half quarters, but fell behind when the Blazers went on a 14-0 run, capped by back-to-back Steve Blake threes that put the Blazers up by four. And maybe it was because he was the guy leaving Blake open—or maybe it was just because he’s T.J. Ford—but that’s when T.J. Ford decided he was going to win the game by himself. He went 1-on-5 on multiple possessions down the stretch and took some truly terrible shots; only some of them were going in, so the Pacers stayed in the game … Eventually it came down to a tie score with 11 seconds left, Blazers ball, so obviously you give it to Brandon Roy and let him go to work. Guarded by T.J., Roy (28 pts) got where he wanted to the bucket, and right before he was going to kick it out to wide-open Travis Outlaw in the corner, got tripped by T.J. and sent to the line, where he buried the game-winning free throws with 1.7 seconds left … On every foul, the TV scoreboard on the Blazers’ broadcast shows what kind of foul was actually called—pushing, holding, blocking, etc. One time Troy Murphy clubbed Joel Przybilla across the head as Joel went up for a shot, and after the whistle, the scoreboard just said, “Hand-check.” … We’re out like Hibbert making layups …
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March 5th, 2009 at 4:10 am
jay says:
is 23 points already a big night for Lebron? lol
c’mon, you know The King better..
March 5th, 2009 at 4:13 am
Biglang Liko says:
D-Wade is filthy.
March 5th, 2009 at 4:14 am
AL says:
how u not mention west’s 8 steal??
March 5th, 2009 at 4:20 am
K Dizzle says:
“Other big stat lines from Wednesday: LeBron scored 23 in a win over Milwaukee”
Maybe the 4-5 from 3 which follows the 8-11 from 3 last time he saw the bucks, but 23 points a big stat line???
It’s not too late to delete it before most dime smack readers wake up……just sayin
March 5th, 2009 at 4:34 am
jay says:
maybe 23 points would be a big night for someone like darnell jackson or jj hickson..
March 5th, 2009 at 4:57 am
max says:
Maybe they need to mention lebron in every article…and “Lebron scored 23 in a win” still sounds better than “Lebron played yesterday”
March 5th, 2009 at 5:13 am
alf (from melmak) says:
the race in the west just got very interesting. with the exception of the lakers, numbers 2 to 8 seedings have become unpredictable. exciting times in basketball.
from how it looks right now, it seems utah has the deepest bench out there. the upcoming five game eastern road swing will tell what their character truly is. and they have beat the life out of denver too.
on a parting shot, my meal allowance goes to mark cuban. he just said all the right stuff and his team responded. hope all players in the league would really lay it on the line everytime they step into the hardwood.
March 5th, 2009 at 6:03 am
Iannyb says:
Big game Dwade as a big Laker fan I envy what the Heat have in you.If only some of this could rub off knucklehead Kobe.Keep it up Dwade
March 5th, 2009 at 6:11 am
YOUNGFED..."My president is black, my diamonds light blue." says:
^^^^^^LAME^^^^^
March 5th, 2009 at 6:26 am
Kudabeen says:
I guess Iverson and the Pistons aren’t really that eager to reunite in the mist of the current winning ways…
Iverson out 2 WEEKS for a “sore” back??? So not Iverson-like…
I guess time to focus on who’s next…
March 5th, 2009 at 6:43 am
springz says:
What’s an F-Bomb??
March 5th, 2009 at 7:34 am
SP says:
I tried posting this on the CP3 kicks thing last night but I dont think it worked…question for everybody about a situation I just got into….
long story short…My g/f and I made a trip to New Orleans (we’re on vacation in Florida), our car got towed, a “real nice couple guys” talked us into letting them give us a ride to where our car had been impounded (no taxis around, no way we could walk there…etc) we don’t know anything about the city and we’re from the country…where we live people help people…well I see our car getting towed one way we start driving the other I ask the guy he says umm I dunno why they’re goin that way but it’s by my house…he was kidnapping us! I asked him to stop the truck and he wouldnt so he tries rolling through a red light me and my girl jump out he slams on the brakes tries to get us back into the truck we run like hell to some cops about a block away…they laugh and tell us how to walk to the impound lot…
so scared out of our minds with no idea where we are we walk there…my question: what would you guys do in a situation like this? is complaining pointless since the coward cops are obviously more afraid of the criminals then we were or what?
do I contact the mayor? the police in my hometown? do I just let it go?? what do you guys think? we don’t care if they catch the guys who did it or not…although I could give em a very accurate description of everything…I’m more pissed at the pigs…
March 5th, 2009 at 7:53 am
ToAn says:
@springz….someone saying F.U.C.K.
March 5th, 2009 at 7:53 am
Smitty313 says:
lannyb Kobe was exactly like that 2 years ago. When he played with Smush and Kwame. Kobe use to go real hard. That’s not what Kobe does these days. I would like Kobe drive to the whole more but I will still take him over D-Wade and it’s not even close.
March 5th, 2009 at 8:20 am
Tia says:
Rajon Rondo is not bad, but he insn’t a clutch player…
http://ezinearticles.com/?Rajon-Rondo-Dunk—How-to-Jump-Higher-Without-Calf-Raises-and-Squats&id=2023330
March 5th, 2009 at 8:35 am
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
Houston Up!
Scream Utah! They are looking good I ain’t even gonna front. Still I think Sloany’s system will be what takes them where they usually go till they fall off.
Deron might be the difference though cause he adds that difference to Utah’s style. Time will tell.
I need Von Wafer to step tha scoring up for real.
Come on Rick get them boys together.
How Indiana gonna lead the whole game and give it up like Karen Steffans right at the end.
Guess Mark Cuban’s rant on the team worked.
Wade is going off!
March 5th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Last year there was no doubt that I would choose Kobe over Wade. This year I really can’t say that with much confidence. Wade has turned into the best all around player this side of Lebron. Wade is not only dropping mad dimes lately but also has been a force on D and not just with steals. He is easily the best shot blocking guard in the League. At this point given age and abilty I would take Wade over Kobe.
Hey Dime, in case you haven’t, (I may have missed it) you need to do a who’s better, Kobe or Dwayne? I like to see the arguments for both.
March 5th, 2009 at 8:37 am
Kobeef says:
This went unoticed but Russell Wesbrook is now leading the SI and ESPN rookie of the year rankings.
Interesting fact: Statistically, Westbrook is having a better rookie season than Dwayne Wade did in Miami with Wesbrook putting up 15-5-5 vs Wade’s 16-4-4. There are only something like 5 players who have ever averaged better than 15-5-5 (pts/reb/assists) as rookies and CP3 and Lebron are the only recent members of that club.
Also unoticed was Beasley’s 28pts against the Suns. Don’t look now but Beasley is turning into the frontcourt monster the Heat needed.
March 5th, 2009 at 8:51 am
the_don_mega says:
Kobe or Wade??? i still believe that Kobe is way better that Flash… Smitty is right, its not even that close. Kobe was Wade 2 years ago… as with Mamba back then, the question is… is Wade really that good now (good in the sense that he’s the best in the L)… or does he just have a lame supporting cast???
March 5th, 2009 at 8:55 am
reskiLLa says:
thank you DIME for providing me with a recap of all the action i miss due to the poor NBA coverage in Canada/wednesday night YMCA ball. who needs NBA tv when you have can have SMACK with your morning coffee…
March 5th, 2009 at 8:56 am
E$ says:
F*** Flop Lake City, Utah…No wonder they don’t have fans when they travel
March 5th, 2009 at 9:16 am
doc says:
My man D-Will in a zone right now.
March 5th, 2009 at 9:41 am
Amar says:
man, houston fans seem to have a lot of sand in their vajay-jay’s after losing to a team that’s finally healthy. we know tmac is always out with the sand in his snatch, didn’t know that h-town fans suffered from the same ailment.
we took your boys to double overtime in houston with kyrylo fesenko and kosta koufos because of injuries . . . don’t expect the road to get easier for y’all now that the jazz are healthy for the first time all season (including training camp).
and dude, yao could have easily been fouled out earlier with his continual fouling of jazz wings driving to the bucket, brewer’s eventual retribution is called karma.
peace out, clutch city. hope to see you in the playoffs. you guys are an easy out for the jazz because boozer is just too fast for yao. you know you’re a special team when boozer (who had been sucking since he returned) gets 20-17 on you.
March 5th, 2009 at 10:09 am
Tom S. says:
How about Brotha Redbush’s 8 steals?
March 5th, 2009 at 10:14 am
YOUNGFED..."I dont know whatcha heard about me but Im a Muthafuggin P.I.M.P." lol says:
A few quick hitters
1.) Paul Pierce is a Byatch!
2.) The Pistons are gonna prove he’s a Byatch in the finals
3.) Kobe is the best that ever done did it.
4.) If Lebron gets hurt the Cavs are gonna fall off faster than a hookers draws. lol
5.) The above statement also goes for D-Wade and his team.
6.) Nate Robinson will be in the ASG next year and I aint talking dunk contest.
7.) YOUNGFED is a living legend never forget it.
YOUNGFEDS BANGER OF THE DAY: Montell Jordan and Ce Ce Penniston
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2009/02/montell-jordan-cece-peniston-have-more-to-say.php
March 5th, 2009 at 10:21 am
YOUNGFED..."I dont know whatcha heard about me but Im a Muthafuggin P.I.M.P." lol says:
A few quick hitters
1.) Kobe is the best that ever done did it.
2.) If the Cavs lose Lebron they’ll fall off quicker than a Hookers draws.
3.) The same is true for D-Wade and Co.
4.) Paul Pierce is a Byatch!!!
5.) The Pistons are gonna hurt them boys in the finals.
6.) YOUNGFED is a Living Legend never forget it.
YOUNGFED’S BANGER OF THE DAY: Montell Jordan & Ce Ce Penniston
http://www.soulbounce.com/soul/2009/02/montell-jordan-cece-peniston-have-more-to-say.php
This song is only for the grown and sexy. (lol)
March 5th, 2009 at 10:24 am
Sanpitch says:
whoa! i never thought i would see a dime smack that just mentioned lebron. “LeBron scored 23 in a win over Milwaukee”.
wow kudos to dime.
the mvp race is between wade, lebron and dwight/kobe. i got to give the nod to wade. man has had something to prove since last seasons injuries. lebron is a close second, but i got to give the nod to wade.
is wade better than kobe? nah, i think if you do a “who’s better?” on wade and kobe, kobe walks away hands down. but this season i consider wade an mvp and kobe an honorable mention, career-wise it’s just the opposite.
thanks dime for the “Pierce engaged in a circa-2002 shootout with Vince Carter” line. no one i talk to remembers that shootout that they had in the playoffs. now i got some proof to back it up.
jazz are looking scary right now. a game out of 3rd place, and their next game is against the nuggets.
this is why i love basketball. you got teams jockeying for playoff spots and march madness is knocking on the door.
March 5th, 2009 at 10:25 am
YOUNGFED..."I dont know whatcha heard about me but Im a Muthafuggin P.I.M.P." lol says:
…………………………………………
March 5th, 2009 at 10:25 am
not a shaq fan says:
Shaq has destroyed every team he has been a part of, it is just a matter of time. It then takes 5 years for his former teams to recover. Notices it’s all about him, I did this, I did that. Not my team won a championship. He has the biggest, fatest ego on the planet. Kids shouldn’t look up to him, they should look up to Tim Duncan.
March 5th, 2009 at 10:39 am
LakeShow84 says:
I feel bad for Dwade.. The man goes out and gets 30+ points AND 16 DIMES and Lebron is the talk of Sportscenter with 23 points.. thats rough.. what cracked me up was the “is Dwades jumper as good as Lebrons?” of course fake ass StuScott asked that question but it still made me laugh..
So who does have a better J?? LBJ or Dwade?? i say Dwade.. And J does not mean 3 pointer peeps.. thats a small part of having a J.. Pull up, turnaround, fadeaway, etc..
March 5th, 2009 at 10:45 am
LakeShow84 says:
And that who’s better Dwade or Kobe post was a goofy ass question.. Dwade is having a monster year but he aint near the Mamba.. dont get caught up in the hype people.. maybe a better passer but how much passing you want a SG to really do?? Dwade has always been a 1-2 hybrid to me..
Kobe averaged 35ppg in a WHOLE SEASON.. he might be close but come on.. spare me..
March 5th, 2009 at 10:46 am
LakeShow84 says:
And i second Doc..
D-Will is playing like THE man right now..
March 5th, 2009 at 10:48 am
E$ says:
Utah fans are so out of touch, proud of a floppin’ azz franchise. That type of ball will NEVER win a ship’
March 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
LOL Amar talking all greasy and slick today cause they got a win.
Still championship-LESS!
And still will be championship-LESS after this year.
Your Jazz are impressive for now, we will see if you end up fishing for the summer as you all usually do even if you get past the first you all never win it all.
Moderator please let this through!
March 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
Khal says:
The Utah Jazz are the biggest floppers in the NBA..absolutely ridiculous
March 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
Let my comments in DIME!
March 5th, 2009 at 10:50 am
fallinup says:
Alright Dime. What are you saying, first the new Playboy Ads. And now the Singles chat line Ads? Are you trying to take a shot at my machismo?
If so. Well played.
March 5th, 2009 at 10:52 am
POPPI GEE says:
What do I have to do to get my comments on?
March 5th, 2009 at 10:57 am
POPPI GEE says:
Guess I have to go this way! To get my comments on that is cool.
Anyway Amar you talkin all slick cause of that little win when you guys are at full force.
Your team is still championship-LESS! And no I don’t need to get any new material cause you all ain’t won no Championship.
Same coach, same system and sure you all go further in the playoffs just to GO HOME.
You all betta make it happen this year cause this will be your closest chance.
Pride come before the fall pimpin and you all usually fall, so I would calm down on the pride fella!
Get a championship then pop off!
March 5th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Austin Burton ... now on Twitter says:
LaMarcus Aldridge played a good game last night, but really he should have been destroying the Pacers. They don’t have anybody who can match him physically, and he was killing in the first half (15 pts) but was quiet in the second.
I know Granger and Dunleavy are out, but T.J. Ford kills me with his gunning. It’s like watching Riley Freeman out there except he can kinda shoot.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:07 am
itsakademiks says:
lakeshow i seen that shit and i laughed like lebron is a beast but seems dudes forget that up until this year dwade’s bread and butter was the drive or hittin the pullup j off the backboard.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:25 am
LakeShow84 says:
Utah is too small to contend for a championship.. maybe if they START Millsap.. he makes up for some of that.. but beating San Antonio and LA in 7?? and then beating Boston or Cleveland in 7?? naaahhhhhh
No one can stop Gonibli, Duncan, Bryant, Pierce or Lebron on that roster.. Harpring is a weak defender nowadays and Brewer is a DECENT defender but thats as far as it goes.. Plus Boozer disappears against taller defenders.. See last years playoff exit..
March 5th, 2009 at 11:37 am
Amar says:
h-town fans . . . very predictable with the ‘championships’ talk . . . you guys are a bit defensive. do the knicks fans pump out their chests because of their 2 championships? no, they talk about what’s happening to their team in the present. they don’t live in the past — like h-town fans apparently do.
when was the last time the rockets won a playoff series? (let alone championship) heck, you championships are so rear-mirror that between that ‘golden era’ and now the jazz have knocked you guys out of the playoffs four straight times. (1997, 1998, 2007, 2008)
Four.
show up when it counts houston, or are you just going to keep playing with your rings from over a decade ago?
and just because i’m talking sh*t about houston doesn’t mean that i’m saying that the Jazz are going to win the ring this year. it’s easy to refute my statements when you don’t even read them, lakeshow.
pride comes before the fall — sure. i don’t have to look farther than your franchise player t-mac talking about the 2nd round.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:41 am
Amar says:
E$ — if flopping doesn’t win chips then i think you need to go take a few rings away from wade and manu, if anything, we’ve been shown that floping is the path to victory because the refs can be tricked. NBA needs to clean that up, I personally hate flopping. last night’s game memo and brewer had serious flops. they were not the only ones to flop in that game though . . . battier takes a lot of charges, but he also flops on occasion but doesn’t get called out on it because of his ‘rep’.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Amar says:
lakeshow — utah is too small, and then you attempt to correct it by starting millsap? do you even know anything about other teams? millsap is 6’8. boozer is 6’9 and quicker. memo is 6’11 and an under-rated rebounder (didn’t he have 18 and 19 vs. the lakers in the playoffs last season?). the bench is pretty good sized as well, ak is 6’9 with a longer wingspan than ‘sap. collins is 6’11, koufos is 7′, fesenko is 7’1.
sure, utah isn’t the biggest team, but at least they play physical ball.
“No one can stop Gonibli, Duncan, Bryant, Pierce or Lebron on that roster.. ”
this is true. but how many teams out there have the type of roster that can stop any of those guys? does any team really “stop” timmy d, or does he just suffer from poor shooting nights? can anyone stop kobe or lebron? no. manu is a jazz killer, but he kills all teams. if anything, the jazz have only been able to shut down pierce (the combination of AK, Brewer and Harpring) — and did so last month. the jazz took him out of his game with those three guys that at the end of the game pierce couldn’t make jumpers over our PG.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:48 am
Jones says:
Wade is better than Kobe and it’s not even close.
When Kobe averaged 35ppg what were his assists, rebounds, blocks, steals and efficiency?
Basketball is more than a one dimensional game of scoring. When you put it all together Kobe is only better than Wade in scoring and Wade beats Kobe in all other facets of the game.
March 5th, 2009 at 11:55 am
YOUNGFED..."My neighborhood was the roughest, but still I remain. Just kept stackin' my change remained the same." says:
@Jones
Kobe is better than Wade at dribbling, defense, jumping, posting, rapping, wifing, analizing chicks and tidly winks lol.
Nawl but seriously you dont really believe that.
March 5th, 2009 at 12:06 pm
LakeShow84 says:
What u a Jazz fan Amar??
I see why ur bitter.. but dont hate on mine.. i wasnt even directing MY OPINION at you.. If it makes you feel any better i think the Jazz are the 3rd best team in the West.. But the distance the Lakers have over the third best team is a lot.. regardless if u guys caught us before the All Star break..
But hey its professional sports.. anything can happen come playoffs..
March 5th, 2009 at 12:16 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Millsap PLAYS a lot bigger than Booz, Amar.. i know u watch the games so u should see that.. I’ve watched Booz get knocked off his game and play small when he is probably one of the stronger players in the League.. and defensively Booz is a liability..
Memo is a good rebounder i never said he wasnt but does he like playing D against big time post players?? cuz i always see him look like he is about to cry lol plus his bread and butter is his 3 shot.. any center who shoots 3′s first and drop hooks second is disbarred IMO..
Collins is 6′11, Koufos is 7′, Fesenko is 7′1.. how much burn you think those foo’s about to get in a playoff game??
Only bigs on that team who hold down BOTH ends of the court are Millsap and AK.. And AK isnt really a big.. everyone else flops..
March 5th, 2009 at 12:26 pm
LakeShow84 says:
@ Jones..
I looked it up and Kobe averaged 5 boards and 4-5 assists per game while dropping 35 a night.. is that bad?? because dwade averages 5 boards and 6-7 assists right now during your “lemme dickride Dwade campaign”.. is Dwade really blowing away Kobe then??
Kobe one dimensional.. where u from Alaska??
March 5th, 2009 at 12:33 pm
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
LakeShow84 you right he gotta be bitter cause he just “is” a Utah fan. Team ain’t never seen noooooo paaarrrttzzz of the trophy!
Even if Houston fan’s live off the past, they can actually do that cause they have won it all before.
What past can you live off of?
YOu wanna discuss the present then let us discuss it. You happy cause you team goes further than the first round only to be the same place Houston is, and that is eventually home as well.
Houston has had different players, coaches, injuries and what not.
Utah pretty much can’t use any excuse besides just sucking!
If T-Mac has fallen off what is the excuse for your players who haven’t? There ain’t none besides sucking!
Matter of fact, it’s cool I am the idiot. Cause honestly why am I even addressing a cat who’s team ain’t won diddly then and ain’t won diddly yet?
So Playboi you won’t even be acknowledge anymore till your team gets a trophy.
I need to holla at fans of Teams that have actually won something at some point, I mean dang how long will you be an ultimate fan of losers?
So yea NY might not brag about the past but they know they had that if they need to address it.
You all on some Utah beat Houston in and knocked them out the playoffs. How bout you get on some maybe your squad will won day win it all.
…but they won’t.
Done!
March 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
BROGDEN says:
Notable stat lines besides the 8 steals by West that somehow Dime missed:
CAVS S/L UNIT’S 3FGS
4/5 3FG’S FOR *LEBRON
1/2 3FG’S FOR DELONTE
3/4 3FG’S FOR MO
*see below for more info on Lebron
Wade: 16 DIMES and 8 STEALS, and ONLY 1 TO
Beasley: 28 POINTS in 27 MINUTES
**DANILO: 17 POINTS, 4/5 3FG’S — CAREER HIGH FOR THE ROOK WHO’S BEEN PLAYING FOR ONLY A MONTH
** – see below for more info on Danilo
JOAKIM : 17 BOARDS, 14 POINTS, 4 BLOCKS
YAO: 1 REVERBERATING F-BOMB
MARC GASOL, plays CENTER for Memphis Grizzlies: 10 DIMES
*In the last 15 GAMES, since the beginning of February, Lebron has hit above 40% on 3FG’S in 8 games
Lebron has hit at least 50% on 3FG’S in 6 games
Lebron his hit at least 70% on FG’s in 3 games
He gets a polished post up move, there won’t be any Dwade or Kobe talk anymore
**Reporters caught up with Danilo, after scoring a career high Wednesday night, seeking comment on his performance. He shrugged his shoulders, and said, “I could’ve scored 40 points EASY…but eh, I didn’t feel like it.”
March 5th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Biglang Liko says:
Easy on the D-Wade over Kobe posts. Wade’s spectacular but for him to be better than Kobe means he’s better than Bron also. It’s a nice top 3 though.
1. Kobe – till he passes the torch
2. Lebron
3. D-Wade or CP3 (whichever you like)
March 5th, 2009 at 1:18 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Yeah there will be something still to say Brogden..
You are talking about 15 games and he would have to win a chip.. not get swept in the finals again..
March 5th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
LakeShow84 says:
and didnt Lebron go 0-3 on 3′s after making his career high 8 just last week??
March 5th, 2009 at 1:25 pm
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
Till LeBron develops a mid range jumper and post moves there will always be Kobe and Wade talk.
All you have to do is either guard that 3 or if he aint hot you don’t even have to do that. Also don’t let Bron drive to the hole and he is done.
Cause forcing him to try that mid range jumper is a total wrap. Which is weird that he can get super hot from the 3 point line at times but you get him inside of that he just goes wacky besides drivinng to the hole.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@big, umm if you look at the stats this year, wade has better stats or at least equal to lebron in ever area and hes about 5 inches shorter and weighs less. So this season Wade is better than lebron and kobe. OVERALL is he better than lebron? Well he has a ring and is more of a skill player so I’d say ya..lebron is just a physical beast but his mid range same sucks and his 3 point game is average at best (like i said, hes shooting 32% from 3)..Wades comeback player of the year and MVP…
Is wade better than kobe? again i’d have go with stats…wade is having a better YEAR than kobe, but i don’t think legacy wise hes better. HEs got better overall stats this year but kobe is kobe…so wade should get MVP over both of them today if we voted and I think hes better than lebron but not kobe.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
Like Gee said, teams have proven, if your center can keep lebron out the lane like dwight, Kg, dunca, shaq etc… do hes not nearly that realiable cuz his foul shooting is suspect and so is his mid range and 3s. Wade isn’t really JJ reddick from 3 either but his mid range is way past lebrons and hes a better fou shooter. If he was 6’8 he’d be better lol
March 5th, 2009 at 1:36 pm
Austin Burton ... now on Twitter says:
I’d say Wade is a more skilled basketball player, but LeBron is the better athlete. Either way, it’s extremely close, but as much as I love Wade’s game and he’s my pick for MVP right now, I’d choose LeBron to be on my team first.
I won’t even get into the Kobe talk today; I don’t feel like hearing his cult followers get all agitated if I don’t say he’s a Top-5 player all-time.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
YOUNGFED...."Never said I was clever just funny as hell" says:
@Gee
Lebron will never develope a shot, heres why. Being a shooter is part natural and part practice without both elements one will only develope a decent jumper. Thus this is all Lebron will ever have because his is defffiiiiinetly not natural like K-Hova’s.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:39 pm
YOUNGFED...."Never said I was clever just funny as hell" says:
You better say he’s top 5 alltime hell maybe even the best ever.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:43 pm
YOUNGFED...."Never said I was clever just funny as hell" says:
@Gee
I take my last statement back cause Jordans jumper was broke as HELL when he 1st got here but towards was one on the greatest mid range shooters ever. But then again he’s like the Highlander…..”There can be only one” (lol)
March 5th, 2009 at 1:51 pm
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
Young I agree there can only be one. Does anyone think with perhaps a different coach or jump shooting mentor that might help LeBron develop that J?
Just wondering?
I got Wade for MVP right now. I would choose Wade over LeBron to start if you are just discussing those two.
AB LOL @ the Kobe cult follower statement. True. True.
Bron on 56 you was on yo game that was all true as well.
March 5th, 2009 at 1:56 pm
K Dizzle says:
I like DWade, but please try to breathe. If Kobe goes off tonight, then the same heads stay silent. Sayin who’s better after good regular season games is junk. Wade just lost to Lebron, but he better than Kobe?
Amar, you got Gee heated lol Jazz are on fire right now and probably got the best startin five in the l, but they better win it all this year cuz you ain’t resignin Millsap and Booz and Booz ain’t goin to Miami anymore cuz JO’s eatin up that capspace.
Fed – KryptoNate gotta get his ass in line for the asg cuz DRose’ll be there before he gets in. And ain’t no guarantee that Nate even gonna be east next year
March 5th, 2009 at 1:58 pm
BROGDEN says:
I was being FACETIOUS…I’m with you and Gee on this one Lakeshow.
There’s always gonna be Kobe, Lebron and DWade talk.
Always.
Try to narrow it to Kobe. Then Lebron lovers come out. Followed immediately by the D Wade lovers.
Try to narrow it Lebron. Then the Kobe lovers come out. Followed immediately by the Dwayne lovers.
Try to narrow it to Dwade. Then Kobe and Lebron lovers come out full force.
Try to narrow it between Kobe and Lebron. Then Kobe and Lebron lovers argue forever. Then somehow, someway Dwade lovers end up in the argument.
Try to narrow it between Kobe and Dwade. Lebron lovers come out in full force.
Try to narrow it to Dwade and Lebron. Kobe lovers come out in full force.
It’s a VISCIOUS CYCLE
But props to Dwayne Wade for even being in the argument.
He’s playing LIGHTS OUT this year. And I agree, “Till LeBron develops a mid range jumper and post moves there will always be Kobe and Wade talk.”
KOBE – LEBRON – WADE = CONSENSUS OPINION
March 5th, 2009 at 2:06 pm
K Dizzle says:
@ BROGDEN
good post
Basically, on any day of the week, any of the 3 can be the man.
If Lebron could shoot against everybody like he does against the Bucks, this would be no contest.
If Wade played every game like his last 2, no contest.
Basically, Kobe’s killer instinct and shootin put him above for me. Game on the line, nobody I’d rather have with the rock….except maybe Pierce and that hurts to say but PP lives for that. It was like back in the day when dudes thought Mike let teams hang around so he could slash they throat with a fadeaway with the clock near zero.
I’m not sleepin on CP and DWill tho. They do just as much as the top 3, they just don’t get the hilight love
March 5th, 2009 at 2:17 pm
LakeShow84 says:
HOF’s in my 5?
Jordan
Russell (it hurts me to give it to a Celtic)
Timmay
Kareem (homer sorry)
Magic (homer sorry)
So for what its worth AB Kobe isnt even the best Laker to ever play unless he gets us 3-4 more rings..
March 5th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
kobes overall shooting ability and legacy put him ahead of both of them easily career wise BUT wade is EASILY having the best year of the 3 doing more with way less. He don’t eve have anyone resembling a allstar on his team, has 2 rookies starting, joel anthony is a D leaguer who gets major minutes in the rotation, moon is a community college player,chris quinn is chris quinn, j oneal is on his las leg, luther head is their new backup point, their high draft pick dorell wright hasnt played in like 4 seasons, cook is average but with range, etc… yet hes averaging more points than lebron and kobe, more assists steals and rebounds than kobe and tied OR more than lebron in every catergory. Kobe has and is better but this season so far is wades.
March 5th, 2009 at 2:24 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Dwade gets no love!!
Like i said the man put 35pts & 16assts and Sportscenter jocks Lebrons 23,8,4.. wow, gotta love the media..
The Olympics said it all to me..
March 5th, 2009 at 2:32 pm
K Dizzle says:
lol @ moon is a community college player
it’s funny cuz it’s true. Skinny kid with crazy hops but no real basketball skills lol
@Lakeshow
Where Wilt and the Big O at?
I’m not feelin Timmy as top 5 all time (I know Ian ain’t gonna like that lol)
March 5th, 2009 at 2:37 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I liken it to the performance of the team Bron42..
Dwade HAS to do all the things he does for his team to be even competetive.. Its like Durant playing for the garbage ass Thunder.. if he was on the Blazers and had to pick his spots he would average less points but be more successful..
Kobe had his “carry the load” year and he put up STUPID numbers.. Even Lebron last year actually had some better stats but this year both Kobe and LBJ get to sit some 4th’s and not even do much agsint shitty teams because of the supoorting cast..
Dwade HAS to play until he hits the wall for the Heat to even resemble a playoff teams..
LOL @ Moon being a community college player.. i couldnt have said it any better..
March 5th, 2009 at 2:53 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Shit K-Dizz i got Worthy as my 6th favorite lol.. those are MY fav’s..
Only player i havent watched a whole lot of out of that is Russell.. but 9 rings with Wilt in the same era is good enough for me..
March 5th, 2009 at 2:54 pm
BROGDEN says:
i would take cp over dwill in a heartbeat
March 5th, 2009 at 2:59 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
No seriously, moon went to community college before the globe trotters lol….
@lakeshow, ya your right BUT even when kobe was carryin the load pre gasol, he was more or less just a scorer to the point where he occasionally shot his team out of games. What makes Dwades season so great is
a)hes coming back from injury
b) hes leading the league in scoring AND still putting up big assists numbers
c) hes donig it with less than kobe and lebron have
d) hes smaller than both of them.
You compare it to durant…Meanwhile whats durants rebounds and assist numbers? wade has those too beat, so its not like hes just some gunner on a bad team. Hes doing it all the way people hype lebron for doin and hes smaller and 40 pounds lighter. Even durant has jeff green and westbrook who both shown they can put up numbers on a given night. Kobe has gasol, lebron has mo, west, Z, and a bunch of servicable role players. Wades second best player? beasly who people are already calling a bust (i disagree completely) or chalmers, a second round pic rookie. yet the heat went from last place to 4th/5th place in the playoffs and wade is killing. So you can’t just base it on team performance cuz both the lakers and cavs have better teams AROUND their stars. Wade is spinning straw into gold lol Not to mention, wade has stepped up against EVERY top team in the league this season and beat most of them, when teams expected the heat to be in the bottom of the east. Hows that for team performance.
March 5th, 2009 at 3:00 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
P.S..lakeshow, russel has 11 rings lol
March 5th, 2009 at 3:08 pm
LakeShow84 says:
yeah i give it to Dwade on that front.. hes smaller and lighter than both Kobe and Lebron but does just as much damage..
But my point is Bron, he has to do those things for the Heat to be good.. Kobe and not TOO much LBJ dont have to so their numbers arent going pop out at you..
Superstars on garbage teams put up super numbers because they have to.. and what is this Kobe is just a scorer talk?? that 35ppg year wasnt he second team all defense?? i dont feel like lookin it up lol but Kobe is just a scorer all of a sudden??
Durant was a bad example but you should get the jist of it.. but if Dwade was in the west with that squad.. well it wouldnt be pretty Bron.. u know that..
And if Kobe wasnt good on defense, Lebron would be closer to his throne..
March 5th, 2009 at 3:11 pm
LakeShow84 says:
my bad i was think of Red for some reason Bron lol..
March 5th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
K Dizzle says:
Wilt’s 67 Sixers team woulda killed any of Russell’s championship squads, just to stir the pot and most dime smackers are too young(includin me) to even know if that’s true. I just know what i seen from classic footage and it just looked like before that 67 team, every hall of famer played with Boston except for Wilt
March 5th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@lake, lol i wasn’t saying kobe didn’t play defense. I was ignoring defense altogether cuz i left out wade is averaging like 2 steals and 1 block as a guard. But even in kobes best years, hes never been a major rebound or assist guy and thats been his biggest knock and why people attempt to say lebrons better (hes not). Wade is scoring at a crazy rate AND still giving you 16 assists, and 8 rebounds, along with 2 steals and a block. THe years kobe carried the lakers alone he was puttin up like 30 a game and played great defense but had maybe 3 assists and 3 rebound because he had to focus so much on scoring. And if he was in the west, sure it would’t be pretty but you can’t really hold that against him when hes beaten the top west teams too….they beat the lakers, they beat the cavs, they beat orlando, they beat the suns, etc… Like i said, overall resume Kobe is the best in the game by far. Kobe beats lebron on the sheer fact his offensive game is more well rounded and lebron cant shoot or hit foul shots consistantly…wades offensive game is closer to kobe (minus the range) but is a better team player like lebron. So i’d put wade behind kobe but ahead of lebron. AND this year he gets MVP for what hes done But kobe is still best player.
March 5th, 2009 at 3:26 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@Kdizzle, wilt was 7’2 playing 6’4 unathletic white guys outside of russel who was 6’8 lol so if people are gonna knock guys like dwight and shaq sayin they didn’t play anyone, same would go for wilt. But ya, his overall team didn’t compare to russel and wilt said time after time “russel never stopped me, the celtics as a team did”
March 5th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Wade will win the popular vote but lose the electoral vote to either Kobe or Lebron..
But comeback player of the year forsho..
And thank you! another person saying Dwade is better than Lebron! that should be the real debate..
March 5th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
LakeShow84 says:
well i cant say better.. but on a list of 1-3 i put Dwade above Lebron..
March 5th, 2009 at 3:51 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
2 dorky ways of looking at it…
1) if you keep their skill sets exactl the same way they are now…ANd you made Dwade lebrons body size, would he be better than lebron is right now? Now if you made lebron wades body size with lebrons current skill set, would he be better than wade? Wade can do anything lebron can, and he has a mid range game. Only real difference is hes 6’4.
2) Nike is doing a “signature move” page which has stars showing you their best moves and how to do them. Deron williams shows you how to pic and pop, Manu shows you how to do the euro step and cross behind the back. Kobe, he shows you how to get open for a jump shot, how to drive to the basket, how to pump fake and pivot, how to take one dribble and shot etc…know what lebrons signature moves are? 1)a left to right crossover, 2)fake the drive and pass 3)dunking in the post 4) a fade away 3.
I think that right there shows you the difference between lebron and kobe. Not one of kobes signature moves involved a pass lol (although he did say you coud pass off the drive) And lebrons 4th best offensive option is a fade away 3. Not a single “how to shot a jumpshot” type move when everyone else had one lol Skillset people, skill set
March 5th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
LakeShow84 says:
OK Bron, Ill let it slide that you said Phoenix and Top West teams in the same sentence ..
But i already pointed out that Kobe averaged the same amount of rebounds and assists he always has when he put up those 06 #’s.. there was no sacrificing.. he had 5 boards and close to 5 assists a game (4.5+).. ONE of Kobe’s biggest knock was not deferring to Shaq and curling into the fetal position when the big Instigator started howling.. Shaq took his celebrity (at the time) and made it seem like Kobe was the reason for all the ill that was happenin.. wew dont get me started anyways.. bottom line..
35,5,4,1.8 steals and 0.8 blocks beats
29,5,7,2.2 steals and 1.4 blocks..
and the year aint over yet.. but i agree, Wade is closer to Kobe scoring wise and is just as good a team player as Lebron.. and really for what he has done its a shame he isnt a lock for MVP..
March 5th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@lake, lol for a team that has NOOOOO center, beating the suns was important to me, specially since shaq has been abusing people. Cuz thats whats gonna kill them in the playoffs. big men. And i’m talkin kobe post shaq. Its easy to rac up assists when u have shaq lol I’m talkin the years kobe had to carry the lakers like when he dropped 81, or even this year against the knicks..he doesn’t usually have high assist totals.
Plus ya, shaq was a dick but so was kobe…his whole secretive batman lone wolf type personallity def didn’t help anything during those times.
March 5th, 2009 at 4:19 pm
BROGDEN says:
it’s a slippery slope to hypothesize about what a player would do in another’s body. i tried doing that with nate rob and was told the same.
the fact that a small forward keeps being thrown around in debates and comparisons surrounding mainly guards certifies he’s a beast. i’m just saying when you compare shaq or dwight, you usually compare them with other centers, legendary and conteporary (ie shaq vs dwight, camby vs bynum, shaq vs kareem, etc) when you compare timmy, it’s usually between other power forwards. i’m just saying…
when drooling over wade you forget that outta the top 3, wade has the most TURNOVERS. he averages almost 4 a game (3.82) lebron averages almost 3 a game (3.29) kobe averages fewer than 3 a game (2.92)
March 5th, 2009 at 4:27 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@brogden, ya thats why i said its a dorky way to look at it, i wasn’t serious lol and lebron plays more like a sg than a big. plus you coud easily shift kobe over to sf too if needed. As for turnovers, ya thats tru cuz hes prolly the most reckless of the 3 lol and like i said before, hes working with less around him. Hell steve nash and the suns were in first place a few years ago and nash led the league in turnovers lol
March 5th, 2009 at 4:38 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Shit Nash won an MVP leading the league in turnovers.. go figure..
so who thinks Dwade is secretly feeling Kobe about Shaq?? the media is makin a big deal out of it but i knew that shit BEFORE Miami got rid of Shaq…
and damn Brogden.. Camby vs. Bynum?? thats the best u got for my boy?? ill take Oden vs. Bynum in the battle of bigs who have trouble making it to the finish line lol
March 5th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
“When I try to post up and they have a head on my shoulder and lean on me and lean on my elbow and try to push me out and have the knee and have the two hands, and no call. I know I have 300 pounds. But the same way people push me, maybe it doesn’t affect much, but I have to really, really limit my strength to push back.
I guess I don’t need to worry about a flopper the next game. I don’t think Shaq is that type of player.”
That yao talkin about the bad call that fouled him out against the jazz..you thinks hes serious or takin a shot at shaq?
March 5th, 2009 at 4:43 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@lakeshow, Bynum vs bogut vs al jefferson…who ends up bein th best
March 5th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Ill take Bynum vs. Al Jefferson..
Bogut has hit his ceiling to me..
and i think Yao took a shot lol
March 5th, 2009 at 4:54 pm
Matt says:
for those saying the Jazz have never won a ship, they took Jordan farther in the Finals than anybody else, and the rockets pretty much only won those two championships because MJ decided he wanted to play baseball. Highly unlikely Houston wins those two ships versus the Bulls.
Second, Jazz were favorites in the 98-99 season, but the lockout took away any momentum the jazz might have carried over.
I see Jazz losing to Spurs in 6 in the second round.
Dime, when LBJ scores less than his average against a team he destroyed earlier this month, don’t mention it. PLEASE!!!
March 5th, 2009 at 5:01 pm
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
Come now lol yall know Yao’s demeanor. Ain’t no way he going in on Shaq.
Although if by some microscopic percentage he is. It’s by far unexpected and real hilarious!
Al Jefferson most def. Hope he comes back from the injury ballin and being 20/10 consistently like he was!
Don’t think there is another player, prolly cept for Boozer maybe, that gives Yao more fits than Jefferson. That ain’t saying no revelation that Yao is that dominant and all. Still they give Yao more business than other players.
Here is to hoping D-Wade gets popped in the mouth during the playoffs! Last time his mouth was bloody (from a foul or something), he proceeded to go….off (scoring and D wise). Ut oh! The great ones don’t need no extra motivation.
March 5th, 2009 at 5:02 pm
BROGDEN says:
Bron and Lakeshow, you guys’ back n forths make absolute sense and 100% on point. It’s kinda refreshing to hear some intelligence on the board.
Gimme Al at da 4 and Bynum at da 5.
Illlllllll
Lebron at the 3, Kobe at the 2 and CP
Wade subbing
Illlllll
March 5th, 2009 at 5:13 pm
POPPI GEE...going back like babies and pacifiers says:
Matt that would be me saying that!
So let me get this right…???
You are “content” and “satisfied” with your team taking Jordan further in the finals than anyone else? Even though they still LOST?
I mean really I should stop right there lol. Let us move on though.
Now if they had somehow won, by all means take up as much space as you want braggin, doing yo dance and laughing at every other squad out (except Detroit). But, uuuummm, they LOST. You get that? THEY LOST! That is like getting married to an ugly chick and you bragging that you still get to have sex with her. She is still …ugly though? Ain’t no real, moral, fictional or any other type of victory there.
And we can “If” this and that all day on speculation as to what would have happened had Jordan not did his baseball gig. Still there were a whole lot of other teams and players (Jazz team included) that were there and didn’t get it done when Jordan was out except Houston and that ain’t if or speculation.
I am not even commenting on the lockout excuse cause I have NEVER heard anyone use that. So on originality alone you get points.
Still the Jazz have been good but never great. Houston has at least been great at some point. And if you see the Jazz getting knocked out second round and even if Houston should lose in the first…then the Jazz will be in the same place Houston is for the summer… Out the playoffs.
You asking DIME not to mention something, how bout you dont mention that lame triumph of taking Jordan further than any other squad in the playoffs but still LOSING!
We done here?
March 5th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Its sad how nowadays cats have to play out of position.. Chris Bosh, Al Jefferson, Duncan, etc are not centers..
they can play center but they forwards @ heart.. shit thats the problem with Toronto they have a certified 4 playing as a 5.. sad..
Man, Al @ the 4 and Bynum @ the 5 would be DISGUSTING..
And yo Matt.. Shoulda, woulda, coulda
March 5th, 2009 at 5:36 pm
Bron42 aka Had springs before slamball says:
@matt, by taking them fartehr, do you mean winning a whole 2 games against eh bulls and losing? both occasions? talk about setting you goals low
March 5th, 2009 at 5:44 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Thats Matt Harpring on here ya’ll lol
March 5th, 2009 at 7:32 pm
me says:
do starbury and e.house not get along – i don’t rem. the history…
March 9th, 2009 at 1:55 pm
SagJism says:
Until Dwade or LB goes for 62 in 3 twice, or goes above 81 pts, shut up talking bout who’s better. Dwade is carrying his team this year which = more opps for scoring, assists and all the range of stats. Last Year LB had to do most of the work for his team which caused his stats to sky rocket, prior to that withthe big catus(Big Whiner) leaving KB24 had to carry his team for acouple of seasons. You cant really make the comparison because these guys all play in different systems from different coaches so their touches and opportunities ar ejust different. NOt taking anything away from Dwade or LB but KB24 just has more experience and is more mental than those 2 are right now. That does not mean they wont get there and be just as good or maybe even better (I doubt it but it is possible) but for now, KB24 is the best and they both know that as well, hell they told as much didnt they and they play in the L. No one on this post plays in the L so why cant you just take the people who do word for it. I mean they check each other and all the other cats in the L and m85% of the cats in the L past or present say KB24 is the one, not LB, not dwade and they dont just say it, when asked they say they “whew, KB dudes, thats all we can say, we even watch him” and thats coming from palayers checking him day in day out. SinceI only watch them paly and have never played agaisnt any of them, Ihave to take their word at it because in the leaguesI play in, we dont just say someone is good unless it is undenieable. thats just as a not NBA player who can ball but I aint crazy enough to think Ican ball on the NBA level. so like the post aboe says Dwade, Lebron, Kobe = COnsensus, the 3 best in the L with PP following up because he lives for the kill at the end of games.
March 9th, 2009 at 1:59 pm
SagJism says:
Oh Yeah, I would give Wade the MVP this year because he has the least to work with, thats the only reason. All 3 are HOF.