Is Dwyane Wade the MVP?
For the majority of the NBA season, publicly at least, the MVP conversation has been a two player race between LeBron James and Kobe Bryant. The conversation has certainly changed with Dwyane Wade’s absurd play of late. Statistically, the numbers are all gaudy. Check out the stat lines:
LeBron James: 28.1 points, 7 assists, 7.4 rebounds, 1.7 steals, 1.2 blocks, 98 threes and 48.8% from the field.
Kobe Bryant: 28 points, 4.9 assists, 5.4 rebounds, 1.3 steals, .4 b blocks, 84 threes and 47% from the field.
Dwyane Wade: 29.7 points, 7.7 assists, 5.1 rebounds, 2.2 steals, 1.4 blocks, 65 threes, and 49.5% from the field.
The team records:
Cleveland: 49-13
LA: 50-13
Miami: 34-29
Obviously the supporting casts are different, but here is the question:
Has Dwyane Wade done enough in your eyes to win the MVP?
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March 10th, 2009 at 10:00 am
NTstateOFmind says:
at this juncture id still go with Lebron
March 10th, 2009 at 10:03 am
K Dizzle says:
The answer is yes: It’s gonna come down to the voters who feel Lebron “deserves his first mvp” and the voters who are doubly impressed by Wade’s comeback from death last year to best player this season doin the most with the least. Miami Heat? Playoffs? Maybe homecourt advantage? NOBODY saw that comin…
March 10th, 2009 at 10:05 am
Xavier says:
I would go with Wade, definitely. LeBron is amazing of course, but hes surrounded with better talent. Wade has taken a lottery team and made it all happen.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:14 am
goonther says:
@Xavier
“I would go with Wade, definitely. LeBron is amazing of course, but hes surrounded with better talent. Wade has taken a lottery team and made it all happen.”
didnt that happen with lebron and kobe last year??? and look who won – kobe had a great supporting cast, and lebron took a crappy team that went 0-6 without him to the playoffs…. again….
when its all said and done though i think they’ll vote wade in (sniffle, sniffle…. a tear for lebron)
March 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am
loganlight says:
Yes.
Look at those numbers! He is by far more consistent in every area of the game. A true playmaker… Wade has come with something to prove this year. He is the NBA MVP. Kobe is great and so is LeBron and their supporting casts are different… with that being said, how insane would Wade’s numbers be if he had an additional scorer? As of now he gets 7 assists a night out of tossing the ball to a bunch of guys who may or may not just drop the ball.
Wade for MVP. No question.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:22 am
dk says:
Better numbers out side of rebounds and threes but Wade out scores him significantly with the extra assists. Couple that with the fact the Heat were a lottery team and the pick didnt , Wade.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:23 am
hucklebuck says:
if Wade keeps up the numbers and the Heat are in the top 4 seeds for the playoffs, WADE DESERVES THE MVP.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:24 am
ticktock6 says:
This is gonna be like CP vs. Kobe last year. The re-addition to Miami of Wade balling like a psycho has jumped the Heat how many spots? Last place to over .500 playoff team? People will vote for LeBron because he “deserves” one and “it’s his year,” but Wade means more to that team.
Anyone who watched him in the Olympics could see this coming.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:26 am
dueces says:
I agree with K and would have to say yes, Wade is the MVP. I have Lebron on my fantasy team, so I regularly check and see his stats and the great effect that he has on his team’s record. The fact of the matter is that Wade means just as much to his team if not more because it is an absolute fact that he has less to worth with. A rookie at the 1? A washed up JO at the 5? And a less than impressive #2 pick as your first player off the bench.. wow.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:26 am
Kudabeen says:
It is all about your philosophy…
I give the best players more credit when they deliver with the most adversity…LeBron and Kobe can take quarters and games off, because their supporting cast is stronger.
I’m watching guys like Wade, Chris Paul absolutely black out on the court in the clutch…They are making everything happen out there. They don’t get to coast sit on the bench for 5 minutes and laugh and watch from the sidelines as Mo williams and crew drop buckets or Shannon Brown gets nasty blocks and such…
They are really competing every game…
LeBron will probably get the MVP and I wouldn’t be made is Kobe got it again…
BUT my philosophy is I give credence to the guys who work the hardest for their team…Wade and Chris Paul aren’t just their team’s Superstar, they are their teams best defender, best hustle players, best scorer, playmaker, etc…
I have Wade right now…
March 10th, 2009 at 10:27 am
gotem says:
according to the above numbers its basically neck to neck to neck, you could say that if the lakers finish the season in first place then that should supplement the difference in stats between the other 2, and if you go by previous year’s MVP voting mainly the year in which NASH got his 2nd while Kobe put up gaudy numbers and a very rare 81point performance a la 08-09 dwade then this should be kb24′s 2nd mvp trophy should the lakers hold on and finish best in the L.
if you judge it like mortgage companies judge your credit score…of the 3 major credit score companies choose the one in the middle then its lebron…
dwade would have to nothing short of a quadruple double to move in front of those 2. but i have him on my fantasy team so i’m a lil bias.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:28 am
JA says:
If Wade can push his team to finish with 47-48 wins, then I say he has a shot, otherwise I don’t see it happening.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:32 am
Kudabeen says:
Ticktock:
Wade was a monster in the Olympics…He is playing like the fiercest competitor in the L right now if not the Best player…
Kobe had his year like this when he was dropping 50 on everyone and just killing the L…
LeBron has been consistently brilliant, but I can’t see that I’ve seen him absolutely in kill mode for more than a game at a time…Not including Playoffs…
Wade and Chris Paul are really carving people up, but Wade has consistently been balling out of that “dark” place this year… I love it…
March 10th, 2009 at 10:36 am
m.rob says:
Yes, but everyone is all over LeBron this season so Wade doesn’t have a shot.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:39 am
Xavier says:
@goonther:
Surely theres a difference between who “is” and who “will be” Its the same argument every year for sure, but theres been surprises before.
If the Heat make the playoffs, then theres a chance.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:44 am
the king says:
Lebrons supporting cast isn’t that good! You take either player off their team and both are going lottery. I give it to lebron.
March 10th, 2009 at 10:51 am
Detroit Dave says:
I still believe they should rename the award “Baller of the Year” They are equally important to there team. Miami has the worst supporting cast out of the 3. But CP3, Kobe, Wade, LeBron, Dwight are all Valuable….
March 10th, 2009 at 10:57 am
liukz says:
YES, he is playing at the same level lebron and Kobe with the less talent around him. the last month or so he has been unconscious
tomorow is his stament day for that award …if he kills boston its done…
March 10th, 2009 at 10:58 am
Kudabeen says:
Boston won’t have KG, Rondo, or Davis though…
March 10th, 2009 at 10:59 am
Prof. TX says:
Kobe already got his trophy, and people love to talk about how deep the Lakers are. It’s easier to get stats when your team is setting good screens, passing the ball, shooting well, etc.
People used to talk about how LeBron deserved it because he was all alone, carrying the team, etc. But you could say that Wade has even less help this year than LeBron, and if carrying your team is something you look for then Wade seems to have more weight to pull.
I’d have no complaint about Wade getting it. He’s not the only good choice, but he’s a fair one.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
BROGDEN says:
LEBRON 28-7-7
KOBE 28-5-5
WADE 29-7-5
Throw in CHRIS PAUL’S “measly” 21-11-5 or DERON WILLIAM’S “puny” 19-10-3 then…
“Statistically, the numbers are all gaudy.”
Stern’s gonna bust a nut live via webcam if they keep this sh&% up.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:01 am
jl90 says:
i feel like the race right now is between lebron and dwade. kobe has fallen off a bit now that the lake show isn’t on such a torrid pace lately. if wade can keep up his play and get miami to the 3rd or 4th seed in the east, he deserves MVP.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:02 am
Ashlov says:
Tell you what. If Wade DOESN’T get the MVP, I feel REAL bad for Lebron if the Cavs have to face the Heat in the playoffs. Wade is at his best when he’s pissed off, and you really don’t want any piece of that.
Both the Lakers and Cavs have much better supporting casts than the Heat do. Wade’s done more for his team and won.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:04 am
YO MOMMA says:
im gonna go off the subject…well kinda
this is why we are in a golden age of basketball right now.
we have so many dynamic players in this league. lebron, kobe, and now d-wade (u can add duncan, garnett, and shaq to that list but i think wing players have the edge in terms of transcendence because they do more with the ball and have more appeal)is in that list of transcendent players in the league. in the 90′s there was jordan…and everybody else. yes there were other great players (barkley, drexler, olaujwon, ewing, stockton, malone, etc.), but moments like the one d-wade had last night only came from jordan in the 90′s. which is why jordan is so mythical shall we say. i think that is why no one will match jordan’s accomplishments because he had no real competition in his prime. but these the three guys we have now will always be in competition for being the face of the league…although lebron is winning that race now and kobe is the best player…any thoughts?
dime mag should make this a post…dont worry i wont sue lol
March 10th, 2009 at 11:04 am
justin says:
Only a Laker fan like comment # 11 above could look at the stats of Kobe and Wade and say the stats are neck and neck. What are you talking about? Wade has the edge in every category but 3′s and boards and is only behind Kobe by .3 boards and 3′s a game, not a significant difference. Wade has a large edge in points, assists, steals, blocks, and FG%.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:07 am
Nora says:
When was the last time a player one the MVP without being on at least a top 4 or 5 team? Not alot. Team record is also important in this award.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:13 am
Michorizo says:
Alex Rodriguez … 2003. Last Place.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:22 am
rlf says:
yes, he deserves the MVP, but not only him, guys like chris paul and dwight howard should be in the conversation. but it won’t happen, the league/media decided that lebron was going to win it this year and he is.
is there a reason why mo william has not gotten player of the week or month, when he has had huge games for the cavs? case in point the other game against miami, and on a few other games as well, he has scored 17 points in the 4th quarter to bring the cavs back, but the ‘media’ focuses on lebron’s triple double on 5-15 shooting? that’s a joke.
anyways, yes, wade deserves it, but no one else will get it, but lebron. i guess they are looking for youngest to ever win it. bet nike has already all the special marketing for mr.james.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:24 am
itsakademiks says:
now i know im getting old this is exactly what they say when they say history repeats itself. all these arguments for wade… i heard the same exact thing what 3 years ago when kobe was dropping 81 “look at his team” yada yada yada
March 10th, 2009 at 11:30 am
dc says:
the stats are pretty close, but i’d give it to d-wade because as many have said, he’s doing more with less. i mean, A LOT less!
March 10th, 2009 at 11:35 am
Kudabeen says:
Side Story:
Words from David Faulk with the Junkies on WJFK in DC on Friday talking about his book (which I’m am going to get)…
MJ drafting Kwame Brown got brought up as a joke and this is what Falk said:
“That was not his decision. That was someone else’s decision. Kwame Brown was the first high school player ever drafted (#1 overall) and certain people in the organization thought that would have tremendous promotional value on ticket sales.”
On who Michael Jordan really wanted:
“Michael wanted Elton Brand. They wanted to make a trade, he wanted to bring in Elton Brand.”
Kwame had a lot of “potential” and confidence at the time, but you gamble with picks you tend to lose…
Does this improve MJ’s executive record or does the Adam Morrison pick over 6+ better players forever ruin it.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:35 am
iannyb says:
The battle is between lebron and wade with Wade pulling ahead.Kobe sure doesn’t belong in that arguement right now.Not with his selfish play,Wade and Lebron are making their teammates better,whilst Kobe seems more than happy tyo start gunning all over the place.Afterall the Lakers do have way more talent than any of those other teams.Let’s do this scenario thing,put Lebron and D-wade on that Lakers side and tell me if 70 games aint happening.Let’s not even worry about putting Kobe on their sides,that would be straight ugly.Kobe has all the talent in the world but…………….. I still can’t get over him seeing the need to shoot 20+ shots at the all star game whew!!!
March 10th, 2009 at 11:39 am
ERIC says:
NO!!!!!!!!!!!!! If DWADE is the MVP this season, then KOBE should have been MVP during the 2 seasons he took a weak supporting cast to the WESTERN CONFERENCE PLAYOFFS.. kwame brown was the starting center and smush parker was the starting PG.
KOBE = MVP
March 10th, 2009 at 11:40 am
karizmatic says:
I think Wade has made this go from a 2 man conversation to a 3 man conversation. I might even be willing to put him ahead of Kobe, but I still think the MVP this year belongs to LBJ.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:47 am
clevelandboi says:
i dont care what anyone says, wade is NOT the mvp. one game like this doesnt win a regular SEASON award. the only player that has earned the mvp so far it Lebron. look at his numbers, defense, leadership, and cleveland’s almost perfect home record. giving it to wade would be stupider than if chris paul won it last year.
March 10th, 2009 at 11:50 am
loganlight says:
Sounds D Wade takes it…
LeBron has had a monster season, but is he more valuable to the League as a whole? I would think that Wade, balling on a bottom feeder, is far more valuable to the league. He has single-handedly made the Heat relative.
If Dwayne Wade doesn’t get the MVP this year, I will be genuinely shocked.
LL
March 10th, 2009 at 11:56 am
2Cleva says:
Wade won’t get it for the same reason Kobe didn’t get it a few years back when he was carrying scrubs to the playoffs – the media who votes for the MVP look at wins first.
They need to get all of these awards out of the media’s hands and back into the players. That’s how they were decided in the past – let game recognize game.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:00 pm
doc says:
Kobe is falling away?I dont know what yall talking about.MVP aint about lately aka 2 weeks.Kobe team is 50-13 so he is still in the race.The Cavs are shit without Bron just like Miami shit without Wade.So that supporting cast talk is bogus.Bottom line-If Wade dont win 50 he gotta come back and try again.Sorry to tell yall but MVP is more than numbers its wins also which is why Im laughing at yall supporting casts arguments because Ive already seen Kobe and Bron carry terrible teams to the playoffs by themselves to see the award given to somebody who led they team to a top record like 5 years in a row..
March 10th, 2009 at 12:02 pm
doc says:
@LL-Without Bron or Kobe the Cavs and Lakers would be irrelevant too.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:15 pm
dragonyeuw says:
There’s been a number of games this year where Lebron and Kobe have sat out ENTIRE fourth quarters, that’s because each guy has a team that can function to some degree without them for short periods. The Heat are COMPLETELY dependent on Wade, not only to create for himself but create for a team full of young, mostly marginal players. So with that in mind, Wade is certainly more VALUABLE to his team, is it not?
I don’t even think doing a direct Kobe for Wade swap makes the Heat even as good as they are, because Kobe is not the overall playmaker Wade is when it comes to setting up teammates.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:18 pm
flavur says:
Wade has always been the MVP in my book because he is Miami he is the only reason ylwhy this team is in the playoffs including the fact that their in the east. In my opinion DWADE is the MVP.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
Citizen B says:
Yes.
And if they would wait until before the finals to determine the MVP (counting the playoffs) they would see his heroics in crunch time (something LeBron still has to prove he can do)
March 10th, 2009 at 12:27 pm
George W Kush Sr says:
Wade is playing out of his mind right now, but, if James was to hit one more bucket a game he’d be at 30-7-7, thats fucking crazy considering he used to sit out the 4th quarter so much this year.
Wade is doing great, but this is LBJ’s award this year, but I’m loving watching Wade play right now.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
Big Shot BOB says:
I go with the best player on the best team Kobe won last year. Lebron should win this year. People say that Wade’s team isn’t as good but Lebron pretty much has the same team he had last year with the exception of Mo Williams. Lebron has the better record he deserves the MVP. Maybe when Wade gets a better team it will be his turn. It’s not Lebron’s fault his GM did a better job of giving him the weapons he needed.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:37 pm
dragonyeuw says:
It’s also not Dwade’s fault that his GM did a worse job putting a good team around him. There is too much importance on team record without factoring in each candidate’s personnel. MVP is an individual award, and should be based on which player elevates the team he has the best. There is a team award also,it’s called the NBA championship. D-wade is the best individual this year, let’s make this award what it should be:player of the year. It’s Wade, followed by Lebron.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:39 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Best player whos team boasts best record.. plain and simple.. its been like that.. someone posted this fact earlier too in the smack.. for 10+ years now the MVP has come from a 50+ win team..
Wade is playing the best basketball in the league right now but his team isnt going anywhere..
March 10th, 2009 at 12:43 pm
dragonyeuw says:
Out of the Heat,Lakers and Cavs, looking at their rosters, which team suffers the most when you take their main guy off? Can you imagine the Heat winning more than 10-12 games without Wade? Because I can’t.
March 10th, 2009 at 12:45 pm
dA fLi says:
this is hard but if he keeps it up then definitly
March 10th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
George W Kush Sr says:
They all actually represent 30 wins for their teams. Heat had like 15 wins last year and are on pace to get like 45 this year.
I dont see the Cavs winning more than 25-30 games without Lebron.
I can see the Laker pulling out atleast 41-45 wins without Kobe if they have a healthy roster with Ariza, Fisher, Odom, Bynum, Gasol, Walton, Vujacic but that would be if they’re playing their best ball.
Its getting to be between LBJ and Wade, gotta give it to LBJ this year
March 10th, 2009 at 12:51 pm
creamio says:
Wade is incredible right now and playing better than anyone at the moment, but Lebron has been averaging basically the same stats, while his team is amassing win after win.
He’s also had better stats than Wade does now in the past. In 2006 he averaged 31.4 points, 7.0 rebounds, and 6.6 assists while his team of scrubs, equally as bad as wades team now, won 50 games. He also had similar numbers last year (numbers better than Wade’s this year also), yet Lebron still didn’t win MVP… I don’t see why it should be different for Wade now.
March 10th, 2009 at 1:14 pm
Johnny Knox says:
I guess it goes back to how you choose the MVP. Best palyer on best team = Kobe or LeBron. Who is doing the most with the least = Wade. In any case it really is kind of a team award, based on who is playing around them. If you Kobe on the Heat and Wade on the Lakers, both teams are going to be relatively in the same spot as they are now, IMO.
In short its a really tough call, and you really can’t go wrong with any of them. That said I will take Wade because of personal preference. I like him better, even though that should not really have any relevance, just how i chose to break the tie.
March 10th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
hhhhhhh says:
NO…he doesnt…he may be playing at a higher level right now…but this isnt the “best player” award…its the most valuable…the teams record has alot to do with this award…ok..so Lebron and Kobe have better supporting casts…they also have 30 more wins this season…that says alot!! no way should someone on a team with 5 wins over 500 win an MVP…
MVP..not best player…
D Wade…no doubt the best player in the league right now..
March 10th, 2009 at 1:45 pm
Patrick says:
If it’s really about the “best player on the best team,” how come KG didn’t win last year? I remember KG as being automatically disqualified for having “inferior” stats to Kobe and LeBron last season; however, he was unquestionably the soul of the Celtics who were by far the best team in the NBA last year.
If Wade keeps on pace with his post-All-Star stats he definitely deserves a shot. His current numbers are ridiculous, and the amount of clutch shots he’s taking day-in-day-out definitely put him over the top in terms of value.
LeBron doesn’t have the same elite court vision and clutch shooting that Kobe and Wade do, and I think it’s a joke that he’s the favourite to win this year. I remember last week against the Hawks, Lebron ran out the clock and drew a foul to win the game. That sort of crap just isn’t in Wade’s vocabulary. If the Cavs were down by 1 with 3 seconds left, I’d give it to their best shooter, Mo Williams, instead of letting LeBron try and get a foul and boost his MVP viability with game-winning Free Throws.
March 10th, 2009 at 2:58 pm
Dragonyeuw says:
^ That logic still penalizes the player with the worst supporting cast. Is there any doubt that Wade with a better supporting cast would be challenging the Cavs and Boston for best record out east? The better team record is directly proportional to the quality of players on each team. The better the roster, likely the better the team. The worse the roster, the likely worse the team. The Cavs and Lakers are performing at expected levels, it’s the Heat that are overachieving, and it’s due to Wade’s brilliance to not only singularly dominate, but bring out the best in largely marginal teammates.
What is true is that the Heat rely on Wade moreso than the Lakers rely on Kobe, and to a lesser degree, the Cavs rely on Lebron. Both the Lakers and Cavs have at least 2 all-star caliber players and good role players around Kobe and Lebron. The Heat is one lone superstar, with a team of rookies and role players, with the defense geared to stop Wade every night. Who on Miami can step up if Wade has an off night? If Kobe’s off, he’s got SOME backup in Gasol, Odom and Bynum when he’s not in street clothes. Mo Williams provides perimeter scoring and Z in the post to help Lebron.
Wade deserves MVP for the same reason Kobe deserved it in 2006.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
BROGDEN says:
@49 – I agree completely.
Lebron’s BEEN doing this WADE ACT for his WHOLE CAREER.
And while Lebron’s been bustin his azz off KG (03-04), STEVE NASH (04-05 05-06), DIRK (06-07), and KOBE (07-08) brought home the MVP AWARD.
Lebron’s been posting GAUDY numbers…
20-5-6 the year KG got it.
27-7-7 the year Nash got it.
31-7-6 the year Nash got it again.
27-6-6 the year Dirk got it.
30-8-7 the year Kobe got it.
…and I aint even include steals, blocks, etc
HE DOES HIS MVP THING EVERY COTTONPICKIN’ YEAR.
Even though I wouldn’t be mad if Wade got it this year.
It’s IMPERATIVE for WADE to EXERT his ENTIRE REPERTOIRE because his team can’t win without it.
If Kobe or Lebron had to exert their entire catalogue of basketball skills…the results would VERY SCARY…as seen on many occasions throughout thier career.
Kobe posted 2 triple doubles in January.
Lebron posted a 52-11-9.
There’s still TONS OF BASKETBALL left folks.
March 10th, 2009 at 3:53 pm
MSkittle says:
D Wade= MVP!
March 10th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
the kid says:
MVP goes to the best player on the best team usually. if an individual player does really well and his team has a good record then that player deserves consideration. this is why kobe won it over KG last year.
MVP is a balance between the team winning and individual performance, so even if a team has the best record, their best player might not win the award if another player on another good team does really well that year.
the main argument for me is a question of whether DWade’s performance this year combined with his team’s record eclipses Lebron/Kobe’s performance combined with their team’s record.
i’m not sure who should win it at this point in the season. I love watching Dwade play though.
dwade all day
March 10th, 2009 at 6:38 pm
SoulOnIce says:
Brogden is 100% correct. The only thing is you gotta really look at those years you’re highlighting, when it comes to King James not getting the MVP.
03-04: KG went BALLISTIC that year. Plus, LeBron was a rookie. He wasn’t gettin’ MVP his rookie year. Noone ever will.
04-05: That was the same year people were saying Shaq shoulda got it, right??? His first year with the Heat? I’ll give you that one. There were quite a few people who coulda gotten it that year. LeBron didn’t really have a chance that year, either.
05-06: Nash was beastly this year, and was the best PG in the league.
06-07: That had more to do with the Mavs going 67-15, as opposed to Dirk having a fantastic year. I agree with you on this one.
07-08: Lifetime achievement for Kobe. Personally, I thought KG shoulda got it, but people use that Eastern Conference shit against him. Chris Paul had a monster year, but he wasn’t about to get it his third year.
I want Wade to get it this year, but if LeBron gets it, I won’t be mad one bit. He’s doin’ his thing. It really is apples and oranges.
March 10th, 2009 at 7:06 pm
sandyredd007 says:
Wade has been an underdog since he came into the league behind lebronze…the league was determined to make lebronze the face of the nba and wade just came and took his respect trophy and ring…when lebronze stepped on the big stage he choked…. thats something wade showed he can put a team on his back and take it 2 another level when it counts.. killa instinct kicked in and it was over….until lebronze shows that intensity wade will always be MVP…..
March 10th, 2009 at 8:04 pm
redstorm11 says:
um noticed that not since duncan in 03, the mvp hasnt won the chip, before that was shaq, and before that mj in 98. so i say give the mvp to dwade and watch kobe or lebron win the chip.
March 10th, 2009 at 9:28 pm
dagwaller says:
Dwyane Wade: overrated since 2006…
March 10th, 2009 at 11:18 pm
tay says:
^^wow you’re intelligent. clearly you don’t watch NBA enough. for you to say Dwyane is overrated is complete blasphemy
March 10th, 2009 at 11:19 pm
tay says:
^^wow you’re intelligent. clearly you don’t watch NBA enough. for you to say Dwyane is overrated is complete blasphemy…
March 11th, 2009 at 12:37 am
K.i.n.G. says:
D-Wade is sick, but it’s lifetime acheivement award for lebron, and i, for one, am happy because it would be a shame if lebron had to play one more god damn terrific season (next season) and get shafted for some next bullshit excuse. Y’all forget lebron had the best numbers out of the four finalists for regular season MVP and this dude came FOURTH! FOURTH! and i dont want to make this sound like a pity award for lebron cause he is playing like the League MVP, so ill stop with my bullshit excuses lol
March 11th, 2009 at 12:41 am
Bermuda Boy says:
Look, this settles the whole thing right here:
Co-MVP’s: Dwayne Wade and Lebron James
1st Runner Up: Kobe Jor…Bryant haha
Who’s with me?
March 11th, 2009 at 7:43 am
Dragonyeuw says:
Regardless of who wins,I’d say the league is in great shape going forward. For the first time since the Jordan/Malone/Barkley/Hakeem era of the 90′s, we have a collection of stars who ably can carry the league forward for the next 5-10 years. Lebron/Kobe/Wade will be this generation’s Jordan/Magic/Bird in that they will always spark debates about who’s the best and MVP.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:22 pm
Mr.478 says:
when kobe was at his best two years ago he did not have the same numbers that D Wade has. Kobe only had points the rest of his stat was not that great and last year was the first year he gave a good amount of assists. D Wade is killing the stats across the board. he is hands down the MVP and the best player in the nba this year. Miami was the worst team in the nba last year and now they are #5 in the east and nobody thought that it could happen. some ppl say that D Wade is a mvp candidate now but he has been all year long his stats did not shot up over night he has been playing like this all season.
March 11th, 2009 at 1:38 pm
Mr.478 says:
for those of you who want to judge on who wins the most games then that is crazy because LBJ and Kobe clearly has a better team. i think you should go off of win % because that shows you what team has gotten better and the miami heat are clearly the most improved team in the nba. Kobe got it last year but he didnt make the lakers better cause Pau was avg the same when he played for the grizzlies and LO was a scorer for the clippers and you cant not tell me that fisher needed help from Kobe to be a good point gaurd. this year LBJ has help from Mo which is the point guard and a scorer you get two in one with Mo but D Wade dont have any of that the secound leading scorer on that team comes off the bench the point guard is a rookie and so is the coach.D Wade should be this year MVP. That is how I look at it.
March 14th, 2009 at 9:00 pm
Anthony says:
First of all d-wade for MVP is my vote…but he isn’t going to win because Lebron is the “chosen one” “next jordan” “all time great”. Please give me a break espn annalysts don’t gag me anymore with your man crushes on that guy. I think Lebron is an amazing player but for god sakes look who is around him. Mo is killin’ teams when Lebron isn’t doin’ too hot. And Kobe is one of my favorite players to watch but his numbers are streaky and isn’t dropping 30 a night like Wade. Wade deserves this more than Lebron for sure. Last year was a joke if you are a Heat fan. Everyone who was one was too ashamed to say they were. He comes back and donks international play in the Olympics and now he calling out names and making teams look like college teams out there. Any man who can weave in and out of defenses and have the ability to adjust his shots (while swapping body with the defender) should most definitly be MVP. Like most have pointed out, look at his team around him! Chalmers? Beasly? O’neal? Jones? ARE YOU KIDDING ME!? Give me the chips at the bottom of the bag. Not only has he took the weight on his shoulders he has made the players around him better (significantly!). Dwayne Wade should be MVP, no doubt, but the media has a fascination with Lebron and Kobe that is just too much to shake. So while Dwayne Wade is in the shadow of Lebron and Kobe all he can say is, “Hey Lebron did you see my finals MVP trophy?” or “Hey Kobe you see my numbers this year?” or better yet say nothing and show everyone in the NBA how well he’ll do during the playoffs. Yeah I think that pretty much says it all…
March 15th, 2009 at 10:35 am
Steve Simmons says:
All I have heard all year long is how Wade is not even in the talk of the MVP conversation and how LeBron is running away with the award.
First of all let me say that LeBron is not even beating out Kobe right now. Because most of the media seem to be judging this thing off of records.
If they were going to the stats for Lebrons case over Kobe, than how on earth is Wade not dominating this race. His is dominating Lebron is every single stat category right now. …and has been all season.
Last week Lebron had that 50 point game and earlier this year he had the “almost” triple double in the Garden. Still when Wade puts up better stats last night, then Lebron had in the Garden, he still gets no love in the MVP talk as being the front runner.
Has anyone seen the week that Wade has had this past week, or is everyone just blind? This has been the best week an NBA player has had since Jordan had a week like this in his prime in the mid 90′s.
Its just silly to hear how people have Lebron over Wade, and seeing that Wade gets no love. I hope it stays that way, and so does Wade. If you haven’t heard yet, Wade said its just making him play even harder and harder. That’s a scary though with the numbers he was putting up and not playing to his fullest capabilities. You swap Lebron and Wade on each others teams.
I would be willing to bet anything that the Heat are flirting with the 8th seed to not even making the playoffs, while Cleveland would not miss a beat. Wade carries a team like no other player I have seen since Jordan. I seen a year or two like it with Kobe as well I would say. But not Shaq, Lebron, Howard, Paul, Duncan or Garnett have ever put a team on their shoulders with absolutely nobody on the team and have them in the thick of the playoff race.
Don’t be surprised to see the Heat make a run for the Finals. Wade is that determined.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:13 am
BROGDEN says:
Wade’s been AWESOME but he aint been as consistent as the other two b.i.t’s…
and his team is very mediocre, they won’t get 50 wins…
and he scored 50 in a 20 pt lost…
and he commits more turnovers than the other two b.i.t.s…
All three of the B.I.T.s are trying to one up each other …they’re all trying to make the ANSWER to the QUESTION “Who is this year’s MVP?” —
MEGA-SUPER-EXTREMELY HARD.
March 16th, 2009 at 9:17 am
BROGDEN says:
b.i.t.s looks better than b.i.w.s
best in the world
March 20th, 2009 at 11:03 am
Larry says:
Wade should win it,becuase he means more to his team. For the guys who say that kobe’s stats are not up to par,please stfu! For one kobe is trusting his guys more. The difference between wade,lebron and kobe,is kobe is still putting up 28-5-5 and allowing other guys to shine. Kobe is nowhere near being selfish right now,only a fool would suggest otherwise. To the other guys who said wade’s numbers are way better,no they aren’t! Kobe plays less minutes,and still puts up great numbers. Like I said right now imo,wade is the mvp,but kobe is still the best out there. They will give it to lebron though,this is his charity year. Stern has to put something on his resume to justify the hype.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:14 am
Ian says:
The MVP has become a straight popularity contest. This trophy is becoming more and more insignificant; because EVERYONE knew it was Lebrons “turn” before the season even started. DWade has won “Player of the Month” more times this season that Kobe and Lebron combined! So why should he be Player of the Year? (MVP) This is a joke; if you folks watched the man every game you would have no doubt. Miami has starters that wouldn’t be bench players in CLE or LA. DWade is also a much better defender than both Lebron and Kobe. He is averaging more blocks per game than Lebron?!?!? Man if I was Lebron that stat would piss me off. How can a guard that is 4 inches shorter and 60 pounds lighter than him be beating him in blocks? because he plays with more heart ….. DWade is not only the MVP; he’s the best basketball player on the planet.
March 23rd, 2009 at 11:28 am
Ian says:
Last time Dwade had significant help on the court (Shaq) while being healthy at the same time; he won Finals MVP. People forget that already? 20 4th quarter points in game 3 to come back and beat the Mavs ….. ring a bell to anyone? This media love-fest with Kobe vs Lebron is a joke. Now it’s just too late to undo it. If they knew then what they knew now, we would be talking about DWade vs Kobe. Dwade got injured and the league and media moved on and tried to create another media hyped Bird vs Majic; seems liked the rushed into bad choices ….. when the best player is basketball isn’t even considered a top 2 guy. LOL.
DWade ….. straight up; the best player in the world. Man leads the Olympic team (With Kobe and Lebron)in scoring while coming of the bench??!! With fewer minutes. Coack K called him the best player on the team too. Doesn’t that make him better than Kobe or Lebron? But hey, what does coach K know about basketball players right?
April 27th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Rakem says:
How can any of you say lebron deserves it because of record?…let’s bring down the meaning of mvp for those of you who are green to the sports world….
Most valuable player……player who’s team takes a huuuuuge loss both mentally and physically when that player is not out there with them. A players who’s team needs him out on the floor as much as possible to win, not somebody who can coast on the bunch for a quarter or two while mo williams boobie gibson and Z handles opponents with ease. Take lebron out the mix and the cavs are still a 3 seed at worst. Take wade off the heat and watch miami sink into the unfortuante abyss of losses they originated from. Lebron will get his award but sadly. Having the best record in the league doesn’t proove shit else to me but that ur team has gotten it. Wade has virtually nobody in his corner but fans who know wtf MVP supposed to stand for.