Comments on: T.J. Ford and Jarrett Jack fight

By: J-Lod

J-Lod — Tue, 24 Mar 2009 01:50:29 +0000

Kyle Lee Watson caption was classic…”U STAY AWAY FROM MY MA”…

By: Brown

Brown — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 23:09:14 +0000

The Raptors are terrible this year for a number of reasons that have plagued the team for years. Trading TJ away has absolutely nothing to do with that.

By: Austin Burton

Austin Burton — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 19:03:52 +0000

@james — Eff all that PER stuff. I watch damn near every Pacers game, and I don’t see what T.J. does that Jack can’t do. Like I said, I don’t hate Ford. He was important to what the Bucks were doing, but the Raptors problems this year have a lot more to do than just not having Ford. And O’Brien’s system pretty much allows Ford to penetrate and do what he wants with the ball, so I don’t see how that’s the problem.

By: George W Kush Sr

George W Kush Sr — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:40:36 +0000

Seriously, they can sign Jack for $5M per, 3-4 years, $15-20M, why pay TJ $17M for 2 years? TJ has peaked, Jack will only get better yet still provides everything TJ does so you can actually look for a real PG.

This is a team that also still has Tinsley on payroll.

By: james

james — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:27:12 +0000

If you check TJ’s record it is clear he has made every team he has been on better. And every team he has left, either b/c of trade or injury, has not come close to the playoffs. This will be the first year he has missed the playoffs, and he has not been on one playoff caliber team, when you subtract TJ.

His rookie year he took a Bucks team that was picked to be one of the worst in the league after losing both Cassell and Allen to the playoffs.
When he sat out his second year due to injury the Bucks don’t make the playoffs
TJ returns after a year layoff the bucks again make the playoffs.
TJ is then traded, All-Star point guard Mo Williams and the same team do not even come close to the playoffs the next two seasons.
Toronto w/ TJ makes the playoffs two years in a row after not comming close the playoffs the prior season.
TJ leaves and the same team with Jose Calderon don’t get close to the playoffs.

It is not all coincidence. He had a PER of +20 last season. He does not fit well into O’brien’s system though. He is a penetrator that needs the ball in his hands. He does not fit into a ball motion offense. If O’brien used TJ properly, TJ would have taken another sub par team to the playoffs.

Instead we are going to be stuck with Jack, who was cast off in favor of Blake, because he is not a true point guard.

If you think TJ and Jack are the same player, you just have not been paying attention.

By: Promoman

Promoman — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 18:12:00 +0000

TJ’s game has regressed since his 1st injury. He went from pass-first to pass-last. He’s become just another guy who you’d better not pick up if you want to win. He has All-Star potential, but he’s too counterproductive and a liability to be given the reins to an offense at this point.

By: Austin Burton

Austin Burton — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 17:51:31 +0000

@tony — I don’t “hate” T.J. Ford. As a Pacers fan he does irritate/frustrate me often with his decision-making, but I do appreciate the times when he will take on the scoring load at times when Granger is out or when nobody else trying to score. And T.J.’s been a good dude from the times I worked with him, plus I respect where he’s come from with coming back from the injuries and everything.
But I can’t sit here and say the Pacers are better because of him. Granger’s continued improvement, Murphy’s newfound consistency, these are the things I’d point at. I remember earlier in the season when Dunleavy was hurt and Ford was healthy, Granger was asked in an interview, “Who is your Robin?” (After another “Batman” reference. Without even thinking long, Granger said Marquis Daniels.

By: doc

doc — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:55:16 +0000

I think TJ has better talent,but he ain getting sent around the league for nothing,so give me Jack.

By: jeremy

jeremy — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 16:08:18 +0000

deshawn has been injured all season so clearly you haven’t been watching him because he hasn’t been playing.

By: Big Island

Big Island — Mon, 23 Mar 2009 15:15:31 +0000

I’m not sure Josh McRoberts could pull Jack off of Ford. Neither one of them are Mo Williams or Calderon, but I would get rid of Ford so fast your head would spin.