NBA / May 29, 2009 / 11:00 am

NBA Fantasy Finals: 2002 Kings vs. 2005 Suns

C-Webb was a BEAST in '02

C-Webb was a BEAST in '02

In a slight departure from what we’ve been doing so far, today we’re matching up two of the best teams that never made it to the Finals in a hypothetical series for that elusive ring. Same rules still apply, though: This has nothing to do with the stat-driven “fantasy basketball” you play online. Assume both lineups are healthy, and the older team gets homecourt. Today it’s C-Webb and Bibby against STAT and Nash…

G – Mike Bibby (13.7 ppg, 5.0 apg)
G – Doug Christie (12.0 ppg, 2.0 spg)
F – Peja Stojakovic (21.2 ppg, 5.3 rpg)
F – Chris Webber (24.5 ppg, 10.1 rpg, 4.8 apg, 1.7 spg, 1.4 bpg)
C – Vlade Divac (11.1 ppg, 8.4 rpg)
BenchBobby Jackson, Hedo Turkoglu, Scot Pollard, Lawrence Funderburke, Gerald Wallace
CoachRick Adelman

2005 PHOENIX SUNS (62-20)
G – Steve Nash (15.5 ppg, 11.5 apg)
G – Joe Johnson (17.1 ppg, 5.1 rpg)
F – Quentin Richardson (14.9 ppg, 6.1 rpg)
F – Shawn Marion (19.4 ppg, 11.3 rpg, 2.0 spg)
C – Amar’e Stoudemire (26.0 ppg, 8.9 rpg, 1.6 bpg)
BenchJim Jackson, Leandro Barbosa, Steven Hunter, Walter McCarty, Bo Outlaw
CoachMike D’Antoni

Who would win a best-of-seven series?

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  • Donny Phunk

    The Suns all the way. If they had a healthy Joe Johnson this team would have won the championship.

  • Stockton

    Nice matchup here..im gunna have to go with the kings in this one, there a veteran team with alot of playoff experience, home court, better bench, defense and they can play with the Suns’ offense.

  • Steve A

    Kings in 5 or 6. They were better than people remember.

  • http://www.CalmYoSelf.com Kermit the Washington

    Kings in 5. Bibby would MURDER Nash. Literally. Nash would be dead after this series. Not just because Bibby’s too nasty for him to handle, but Nash would throw himself on the ground so many times trying to draw fouls, he’d die from head trauma.

    Come to think of it, so would Vlade, having to deal with Amare.

    Kings win in 5 anyway.

  • Simon

    I hardly think that Nash would get owned by Bibby. I think the Kings would take this though since I think Jackson and Big Turk both averaged double digits off the bench. That’s just too deep for the Suns to handle.

  • hucklebuck

    Nash over Bibby-Nash would own the stats over Bibby, but I see Bibby making a couple shots in the clutch over Nash, maybe Nash answers back. Nash would have more of an impact however.

    Joe Johnson over Christie-Johnson was more of a spot up jumpshooter in this series BUT the way the Suns run n gun, Christie’s strength of one-on-one defense gets taken away as he is gonna be sucked in by helpin on Nash and not getting out fast enough on Johnson.

    Peja over Quentin-Peja in his prime was a guy u hated guarding because of his quick release and pullup, either off the dribble or a pass. Quentin can’t play defense.

    These next two matchups would be cross matchups, because I would guess D’Antoni wouldn’t want to risk Amare into foul trouble. Amare would be guarding Divac, and Marion on Webber (big mismatch)

    Amare over Divac-yes, Amare can get points in bunches running the floor, dunking and hitting the midrange, BUT he is TOO SMALL for Divac and Webber in the post. NO WAY Amare can guard Webber. NO WAY.

    Webber over Marion-Webber is too dominant against either Marion or Amare. WHEN he gets double teamed, he would find the open man. Marion is a stat sheet filler, and would likely have ONE big game, but would get eaten up on defense against Webber in his prime.

    Bench-I’ll give it to Suns.

    Kings in 6.
    Nash does his best, Amare scores, but Kings play defense.

  • QQ

    Kings in 6.

    That team has the heart, the stars, the length, yadda yadda. Remember, only a Robert Horry desperation 3 prevented this team from having a 3-1 lead over one of the most dominant teams ever. And let’s not even talk about the Game 7, which is seemingly called by the same bullshit refs that are giving everything to the Cavs right now, only back then, they gave it to the Lakers.

    On the other hand, the Suns did nothing but average 542 points, dominate the reg, then disappear in the playoffs. They made it fun for us viewers, though. Butthen again, ‘fun’ ain’t how champions are measured.

  • bsteezy3

    Suns. No doubt. Phoenix’s bench is waaaaay better. Remember this is young Turkoglu and G.Wallace….

  • melvin

    joe johnson has improved ALOT since his days with the Suns….Kings in 6!!1

  • David_Brandon

    LOL @ Kermit..

    damn we were nice…man……….anyway.
    yeah, my kings take this one baby! the scores would be high but sac town pulls it out in game…hmm…game 6. i know phx had enough game back then to hoop, but the kings were just too deep off the bench for that team and finally had their swag right. that woulda been great to see. wow.

  • Ian

    the kings were the best team that season the refs beat them not the lakers. Nash would kill bibby whoever said nash would be owned by bibby is wrong. Kings in 7.

  • jackass

    shit`s getting boring.

  • Rafa23

    people forget the kings lost to the (refs) lakers without peja. he played from game 5 on but wasn’t healthy at all. hedo played pretty well in his place. i think they had almost the same fire power but wayyy better defense. marion vs. cwebb?
    i think the suns team of 07 was better than this one, because they played at least a bit defense. they were as good as the spurs that year and took themselves out(sry, but rule is rule)
    but the matchup we have: 4:2 kings

  • http://www.saltytexan.com rangerjohn

    kings for teh simple fact that mike “pornstache” dantoni will never, i repeat NEVER coach a team to a title.

  • LakeShow84

    Suns because C-Webb would miss all his crunch time FT’s..

    and possibly call a timeout when none were left.. ok JK but that as much as everyone remembers the refs helping us you cant forget all the Kings missed FT’s in that game 7..

  • Ravi

    Suns over Sac-town

  • Big V

    Tough series but I’m gonna go with the Kings. Their frontline is tougher and Bibby was a beast on that team.

  • A.R.

    Yea I gotta go with the Suns on this one. If the Suns get hot at the right time there would be no stopping them. I think Joe Johnson would be the one to put them over the top here. If he had stayed in Phoenix they might of actually made it to the finals.

  • K Dizzle

    Sweet matchup. First team to 130 wins

  • Ian

    so itll be over in half time?

  • http://deleted Al

    The Kings would win in six games , they were really that good

  • George W Kush Sr

    Interesting, but the 02 Kings take it easily. Think about it, David Stern and the refs had to cheat to get the Lakers ahead that year.

    I love Joe Johnson, but think about it, it took the 2002 Lakers and a conspiracy to beat this Sacramento squad, they had been playing together and facing the Lakers together for a couple seasons so they were at their peak. The Suns had just gotten good again and were just finding success in their new formula, they were going to fall to somebody that year.

    Kings take it in 5-6 games.

  • method526

    if peja gets hot, it’s over.

  • http://deleted Luigi

    The thing about the Kings is that they had no weak spot…you always had reliable players there…in Phoenix. without Nash..we may never get to see the evolution of JJ but u know what fuck it Kings in 7…they have no refs to go against

  • the cynic

    Kings; Adelman would coach circles around D’Antoni

  • doc

    Kings in 6.I really thought they shoulda got past the Lakers that year.But I KNOW they’d get past this sweet ass team.

  • dung

    i would fucking love to watch this series!!!!!!! kings would win though in 6 maybe or 7.. they were bad ass

  • http://nbaroundtable.wordpress.com/ Dave

    The Kings would trash the Suns. Over in five games.


    The Kings would choke! C-Webb to deliver in close games? Forget it.

  • Clutch

    Kings they are equal on offense with better team passing,better on defense, and have a deeper bennch. Also Bibby while not the player Nash was in 2006 was incredibly good during the playoffs.

  • willie

    Kings in 6… Back when bibby should have been an all-star.. Bibby and Bobby would have been way too much for Nash.. And that was pre-injury webber, so he would have been a beast for either bigs

  • Alvin

    Kings have better forwards, and the Suns have better guards.
    Kings in 7. i think they would win because of homecourt advantage.

  • Jon

    Kings in 6. Anyone that calls CWebb a choker, go check the real stats. Not what the media says or from 1 or 2 games that you remember from. Check the career stats of Webb and compare to someone like kobe. kobe only makes 25% of his game winners. Yet he is considered as the best closer. kobe is the real choker. Anyone that is the leader of a team that loses a 24pt lead in the 3rd qtr in the finals at home can only be called a choker.

  • Knox

    Kings in 5, maybe six if Suns get lucky. Marion and Amare are great scorers but there is no way they could touch the passing and chemistry of Webb and Divac (who are also solid defenders). If the Suns double Webb or Divac, they will find the open man which would be either Bibby (an excellent shooter, even better back in his prime), Stojokovic (arguably, the most feared 3-pt sniper ever), an Christie (who wasn’t a great scorer, but distributed the ball well).

  • Rolando Ty

    kings in 5.Bibby always abused steve nash especially in the playoffs during those classic kings vs mavericks series. Dont forget bibby hit 9 3pts in a game against nash during 07 season. that settles the pg. doug would shut joe down. vlade would get into amare head with his flopping stlye d.peja would launch up those 3’s over the matrix. and the 2002 c-webb would just b to much for the suns he could hit that mid-range explode to the basket throw in bunch of no look passers. overall it will be one of the greatest and highest rated matchup in nba finals history but sac-town would just be to much for the suns to handle.Look at that bench the kings had it could have easily been are starting line up on any team in the nba besides fundaburke.