Comments on: NBA Trade Rumor: Andrei Kirilenko to the Warriors http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/ Dime is your daily source for NBA News, NBA Trades, NBA Rumors, NBA Videos and Sneakers Thu, 18 Mar 2010 11:40:53 -0700 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.9.2 hourly 1 By: Bryant http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-143579 Bryant Fri, 15 May 2009 03:42:57 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-143579 O yeah, and AK47 didn't stop caring, he just has a different role now that doesn't allow his skills to flourish with the new system Sloan has with emphasis on other players. This also goes in part to the "whining" which really was simply frustration due to his changing role, different than his role from 03-06 when he put up stat sheet filling numbers like no one I've ever seen in recent history. BTW I've been a Jazz fan and NBA fan for nearly 10 years now. O yeah, and AK47 didn’t stop caring, he just has a different role now that doesn’t allow his skills to flourish with the new system Sloan has with emphasis on other players. This also goes in part to the “whining” which really was simply frustration due to his changing role, different than his role from 03-06 when he put up stat sheet filling numbers like no one I’ve ever seen in recent history. BTW I’ve been a Jazz fan and NBA fan for nearly 10 years now.

]]> By: Bryant http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-143577 Bryant Fri, 15 May 2009 03:37:52 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-143577 With AK47 out of Utah, he could really put up the numbers he used to, namely 16 pts, 8 reb, 3 blk, 2 stl on average. Remember people, he used to do this a while back when he played PF and played around the basket a lot, just look at his numbers. That was when he was with Harpring and Okur and D-will had just come in, Boozer not in Utah yet. Now with emphasis on Okur, Boozer, D-will on offense, he's not going to put up a lot of points, but is remarkably efficient considering the limited touches he gets. With him playing SF, he isn't going to get as many blocks as if he were to play PF. If Maggette goes to Utah, the Jazz will be even worse defensively once they lose their best defensive player, AK47, of course. If they lose Ak47, they need to pick up a good defender as well (although no one can really replace AK, as most good defenders excel at either blocks or steals, but rarely both like Ak does). With that said, This favors the Warriors tremendously, but is not too good for the Jazz unless they pick up another defender. With AK47 out of Utah, he could really put up the numbers he used to, namely 16 pts, 8 reb, 3 blk, 2 stl on average. Remember people, he used to do this a while back when he played PF and played around the basket a lot, just look at his numbers. That was when he was with Harpring and Okur and D-will had just come in, Boozer not in Utah yet. Now with emphasis on Okur, Boozer, D-will on offense, he’s not going to put up a lot of points, but is remarkably efficient considering the limited touches he gets. With him playing SF, he isn’t going to get as many blocks as if he were to play PF. If Maggette goes to Utah, the Jazz will be even worse defensively once they lose their best defensive player, AK47, of course. If they lose Ak47, they need to pick up a good defender as well (although no one can really replace AK, as most good defenders excel at either blocks or steals, but rarely both like Ak does). With that said, This favors the Warriors tremendously, but is not too good for the Jazz unless they pick up another defender.

]]> By: Homer http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-143089 Homer Wed, 13 May 2009 15:39:43 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-143089 In my opinion, if this trade were to happen it would be a win-win-win. AK could go back to being the same player he was 3 years ago before he stopped caring. I really think that he would improve dramatically on team like Golden State, because he is better in an uptempo offense. Magette could provide the Jazz a little toughness and scoring. And I don't have to have to listen to AK whine about not getting enough shots, even though every time he shoots it you are like WTH was that? WIN-WIN-WIN. Make it happen Kevin OConnor (Or do we have to bring in Danny Ainge to make it happen?). In my opinion, if this trade were to happen it would be a win-win-win. AK could go back to being the same player he was 3 years ago before he stopped caring. I really think that he would improve dramatically on team like Golden State, because he is better in an uptempo offense. Magette could provide the Jazz a little toughness and scoring. And I don’t have to have to listen to AK whine about not getting enough shots, even though every time he shoots it you are like WTH was that? WIN-WIN-WIN. Make it happen Kevin OConnor (Or do we have to bring in Danny Ainge to make it happen?).

]]> By: Dave http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-142431 Dave Mon, 11 May 2009 23:39:43 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-142431 I've got mixed feelings about AK for Maggette. AK is one of the few players who can change the outcome of the game without scoring more than 10 points.....but that only happens about one of 20 games. The problem I see with Maggette is that as soon as he starts freelancing with the ball Sloan will likely have a coronary right there on the bench and I seriously doubt CM will react in a positive way. I do have to say that it would be great to dump AK's contract, he's obviously not happy in Utah, but I don't think it will help the Jazz on the court very much. I’ve got mixed feelings about AK for Maggette. AK is one of the few players who can change the outcome of the game without scoring more than 10 points…..but that only happens about one of 20 games.
The problem I see with Maggette is that as soon as he starts freelancing with the ball Sloan will likely have a coronary right there on the bench and I seriously doubt CM will react in a positive way.
I do have to say that it would be great to dump AK’s contract, he’s obviously not happy in Utah, but I don’t think it will help the Jazz on the court very much.

]]> By: captaincharisma http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-142185 captaincharisma Mon, 11 May 2009 02:17:33 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-142185 Having watched all of the jazz' games this season. I am looking forward for this to happen. The Jazz lack a scorer and a defensive big. This will solve one of the problems. Ak has become whiney, takes too many shots, and frankly just not the same player he was 5 years ago. People talk about how great he is on defense. Having watched him for years. He takes a lot of risks, and wants a block or steal on every play, giving up baskets when he fails. Which is a lot. He's really not a great shot blocker anymore. Maybe a change is what he needs. But this trade would definately help the Jazz. Having watched all of the jazz’ games this season. I am looking forward for this to happen. The Jazz lack a scorer and a defensive big. This will solve one of the problems. Ak has become whiney, takes too many shots, and frankly just not the same player he was 5 years ago. People talk about how great he is on defense. Having watched him for years. He takes a lot of risks, and wants a block or steal on every play, giving up baskets when he fails. Which is a lot. He’s really not a great shot blocker anymore. Maybe a change is what he needs. But this trade would definately help the Jazz.

]]> By: RANDO http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-141149 RANDO Thu, 07 May 2009 11:56:52 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-141149 Trade works for both sides. Maggette wouldn't be so much of a jacker in a more controlled offense and I think would thrive in Utah. Also I think Kirilenko would be a great fit in GS as more of a freelance player where all of his skills would come to light. Definately wouldn't solve the issues in GS but it would be a start. Also I played against Deron in AAU ball when he didn't have to handle the ball every possesion and dude is just as deadly. I still can't believe Bracey Wright was a more heralded recruit coming out of HS... Trade works for both sides. Maggette wouldn’t be so much of a jacker in a more controlled offense and I think would thrive in Utah. Also I think Kirilenko would be a great fit in GS as more of a freelance player where all of his skills would come to light. Definately wouldn’t solve the issues in GS but it would be a start. Also I played against Deron in AAU ball when he didn’t have to handle the ball every possesion and dude is just as deadly. I still can’t believe Bracey Wright was a more heralded recruit coming out of HS…

]]> By: Borgs http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-141119 Borgs Thu, 07 May 2009 06:08:14 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-141119 Ummm.. you're the idiot, Coop. The article even says the Jazz signed Maggette to an offer sheet several seasons back. Unless his twenty-something years as head coach of Utah doesn't include the time his GM attempted to procure Maggette, I'd say Jerry approved of the player. Furthermore, if Corey is the antithesis of a Sloan guy, then how would you describe the AK47-Sloan dynamic? And, RonNation, Kirilenko blocks plenty of shots for a swingman, which is where he has been wrongly deployed these past few largely indifferent seasons. Played reasonable minutes back near the basket as a help defender he'd go back to 2.5+ per game. If Boozer's going to be the Jazz's PF, Andrei must go. The Nelson Warriors and he are a zany match made in heaven. Ummm.. you’re the idiot, Coop. The article even says the Jazz signed Maggette to an offer sheet several seasons back. Unless his twenty-something years as head coach of Utah doesn’t include the time his GM attempted to procure Maggette, I’d say Jerry approved of the player. Furthermore, if Corey is the antithesis of a Sloan guy, then how would you describe the AK47-Sloan dynamic?
And, RonNation, Kirilenko blocks plenty of shots for a swingman, which is where he has been wrongly deployed these past few largely indifferent seasons. Played reasonable minutes back near the basket as a help defender he’d go back to 2.5+ per game.
If Boozer’s going to be the Jazz’s PF, Andrei must go. The Nelson Warriors and he are a zany match made in heaven.

]]> By: matt http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-141046 matt Wed, 06 May 2009 22:00:14 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-141046 it would be maggette/crawford for ak-47 it would be maggette/crawford for ak-47

]]> By: Chris http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-141045 Chris Wed, 06 May 2009 21:59:38 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-141045 Who cares why Utah would do it. This is a good move for the Warriors. Yes its just a rumor, but so was Kevin Garnett to Boston at one point. Maggette would be a good player off the bench for Utah, or starter. You folks act like Maggette is garbage, he just was not meant for our system. He's no Kobe, but he's not Ricky Davis either. Who cares why Utah would do it. This is a good move for the Warriors. Yes its just a rumor, but so was Kevin Garnett to Boston at one point.

Maggette would be a good player off the bench for Utah, or starter. You folks act like Maggette is garbage, he just was not meant for our system. He’s no Kobe, but he’s not Ricky Davis either.

]]> By: Coop http://dimemag.com/2009/05/nba-trade-rumor-andrei-kirilenko-to-the-warriors/comment-page-1/#comment-141031 Coop Wed, 06 May 2009 20:41:44 +0000 http://dimemag.com/?p=10897#comment-141031 Doc you're an idiot; Sloan would stab Maggette before letting him on the court. He is the antithesis of a Sloan player. You'll be gunning for a Maggette/Ginobili swap next. Doc you’re an idiot; Sloan would stab Maggette before letting him on the court. He is the antithesis of a Sloan player. You’ll be gunning for a Maggette/Ginobili swap next.

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