NBA / May 14, 2009 / 11:54 am

Who is the NBA’s best pure scorer?

Carmelo Anthony (photo. Mannion)

Carmelo Anthony (photo. Mannion)

Front-running or not, Charles Barkley‘s assertion last night that Carmelo Anthony is the best “pure scorer” in the NBA undoubtedly started a few water-cooler arguments this morning.

Although everybody has their own definition of the exact term, there’s really only a dozen or so guys who even deserve consideration: Pierce, LeBron, Dirk, Carmelo, Granger, Kobe, D-Wade, Durant, Joe Johnson, T-Mac, B-Roy, Kevin Martin, Tony Parker and Arenas. Assuming everyone’s healthy, of course.

Is ‘Melo on top of that list? If not, where does he rank in the Top 10? Discuss …

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  • the_don_mega (representin’ the 3 stars and a sun)

    love him or hate him… i think kobe wins this one… hands down… cat can score from anywhere… and has a 1001 moves at his disposal…

  • Bruce

    Kobe all day, any day.

  • MB

    Kobe and it’s not that close

  • Dukesman2000

    Those 3 days in the “bing” has really f*cked with Charles Barkley’s thought process. How can he even form his lips to make comments like that. Carmelo is the best pure scorer in the NBA? You have got to be kidding me!!! Dirk Nowitzki, Nash, Parker, Joe Johnson, Ray Allen, Paul Pierce, Michael Redd, and the list goes on, are way purer scorers than “Melo.

  • Big Island

    I can’t really argue with Kobe, even though I want to, but Melo makes it look reeeaaalllly easy. Kobe looks ugly most of the time, Melo’s smooth.

  • http://www.mylakersnation.com Lakers Nation

    People say Melo because of what they saw in the olympics and because of what he does in the NBA . . . but if you really think about it . . . scoring is all he CAN do . . the guy can’t play defense or make his teammates better, SO by default, they think he’s a GREAT scorer . .

    we all know that hands down, no one has more moves than Kobe Bryant . . he can turn it on any time and when he’s in, NBA players are texting themselves to watch . . 81 points in a game people . . . 81 F-in POINTS!

    of course . . we’re gonna hear . . “but Lebron’s MVP. . but Lebron makes his teammates better . . but Lebron’s younger” . . . please save it and read the question

  • Ekstor

    Laker and Kobe fan here… I think some of you may be misunderstanding Chuck-wagon’s point.

    Kobe is the most dynamic scorer and probably capable of hitting more impossible shots than anyone, but Chuck’s point (or at least Kenny’s clarification) was that Carmelo is the best at creating (and hitting) easy shots for himself.

    My opinion is that the only other player that is (or will soon be) better in that regard is Kevin Durant.

  • SayItAintSo

    I agree that, love him or hate, Kobe is a scorer and the purest at that…

    I have beef with guys like LeBron and B-Roy being on that list because they are so well-rounded and can do several things at a decent clip that you would never say they are purely scorers.

  • the_don_mega (representin’ the 3 stars and a sun)

    @SayItAintS: you’re right on the money bruh… cats like bron and b-roy are too well rounded (and to some extent could be considered playmakers not scorers)… i guess when it comes to being a scorer, it doesn’t matter how easy you make it look or anything… i believe the point is… how much buckets you can score in a 48 minutes…

  • rodney

    man , its melo ,
    kobe does so much more than scoring
    btw: vince carter ,d-wade , best finishers in nba

  • Mikey B

    Kevin Durant best pure scorer. End of convo.

  • dapro

    It’s not Kobe by a landslide

    Yeah Kobe can score because he has no conscience when it comes to shooting and he’s also a volume shooter

    When pure scorer comes to mind I think guys who can light you up without a lot of effort. A threat to score from anywhere on the court that leaves

    Assuming healthy-

    Kobe
    Melo
    Arenas
    Wade
    Pierce
    Dirk
    Kmart
    granger
    Durant
    Broy

    If you take of the guys on the list who score of volume shots that leaves-

    Melo
    Kmart
    Durany
    Broy
    Granger
    Dirk

    Then only leave the guys who can score at any spot on the floor that leaves

    Melo
    Dirk
    Broy

    I’d take Melo. I said this before but from an offensive standpoint, he’s top 5. Too me shot for shot he can match anyone in the league

  • Spliff 2 My Lou

    Surprised Dime didn’t mention Iverson. I know he isn’t the scorer he used to be but in his prime he was one of the best pure scorers. He at least deserves some consideration if you’re going to mention the likes of T-Mac, Granger, and Kevin Martin.

    Currently speaking, Kobe edges out D-Wade as the best pure scorer with his ability to hit the 3 consistently. Pierce, Lebron, and Durant (sleeper pick) round out my top 5.

  • Michorizo

    Kobe then Durant

  • Kudabeen

    T-Mac and Carmelo has size on Kobe along with the offensive go to moves that are so easy for them, but Kobe has every other advantage.

    Kobe is a too heavily armed on offense to just do one thing to stop him…and he doesn’t have to be 100% healthy to be productive either.

    I see what Barkley is saying just on the strength that Carmelo can punish you on offense with his size/speed mix, but if that is the criteria LeBron is a better offensive weapon than Melo…

  • Kevin K

    Michael Beasley and Kevin Durant are the best pure scorers. When given minutes, Michael Beasley can easily drop 35 any night. Pat Riley said if he plays 40 mpg, he will lead the league in scoring and I agree. Kevin Durant gets buckets more effortlessly than even Kobe. Watch him and see how smooth he is. Watching him play, you don’t think he scored but when you check the box score at the end of the night, he dropped 30+.

    Kobe, Dwade, and Lebron are the best players in the league and their role is so much more than scoring. Why is Joe Johnson in the list.

  • hahns

    melo, pierece, mamba, dirk

    best pure scorers in the league period. kd aint quite there yet- but i honestly havent seen him enough to know.

  • Spliff 2 My Lou

    Charles Barkley too often lives in the moment. He rarely looks at the big picture. A player will have one or two great games in a row and Barkley starts making outlandish claims like he invented the question mark. Melo is a good player. I wouldn’t say great. It took the arrival of Billups to lift Denver to the second round. Melo’s scoring ability alone never did that. Also, if Denver had lost to New Orleans or Dalls, Barkley never would have said that and we likely wouldn’t be talking about Melo as possibly the games best pure scorer. Denver’s surprisingly easy road to the Western Conference Finals has been a product of their physical defense more than the effortless scoring of their second best player.

  • Ekstor

    @ dapro

    Durant can hit from anywhere on the floor as well and exerts less energy than most to get his shots and hit them.

  • dapro

    @ Elk

    Durant can’t play in the post against stronger players

    That’s my 1 and only knock on his offensive game

  • dk

    Man you people are dumber than I first thought. Its obviuosly D. Wade. He scores and gets to the lane at will and now has added a three point shot, led the league in scoring and has a championship ring because of his ability to get points whenever he feels like it… The cat was hitting playoff winning shots as a rookie, lol.

  • dapro

    @ Kuda

    Bron doesn’t have the long or mid range game of Melo( not arguing who’s the better player, clearly it’s Bron)

    Kev K

    How is Beasley in this convo? He can score but has trouble putting the ball on the floor. He needs another year or two under his belt before he’s mentioned with the big boys

  • srb

    Paul Pierce

  • hucklebuck

    I will say that is a tough question.

    in my opinion, I would classify “pure scorer” as someone who makes it look effortless, someone who can get the ball and is comfortable at any spot from the court. Another one is a “pure” scorer SHOULDN’T need to do much to score (think of Bernard King-a lot of his moves were basic-dribble hard to the baseline, pull up and score; MJ made it look effortless, he made the triangle create easy shots off pics and cuts, didn’t really have to work that hard to score if he didn’t really want to, which is my definition of the “pure” scorer)

    SO..my choice IS..
    Carmelo-and here is why-

    Yes, Kobe scored scores lots of points, he scored 81, he’s got an array of moves, he can hit difficult shots, he is good.
    BUT, when Kobe SETTLES for jumpers (which he has a nagging tendency to), he doesn’t find another way during the game to score. Carmelo seems to be a guy who can bull his way to the basket, similar to LeBron, and is not afraid of contact. Kobe will try to mimic MJ moves, up and under or double clutch. Kobe PLAYS TO MUCH WITH THE BALL, makes it MUCH HARDER on himself to score. All Carmelo has to do is pull up with the smooth jumper of his, or drive to the basket almost whenever he wants to.(Ray Allen in a Bucks and Sonics jersey was the PUREST scorer).

    So when I think of pure, I think
    -can score from anywhere on court, via drive or jumper
    -can find other ways of scoring if one aspect is not going
    -easy simple moves that are hard to guard
    -looks effortless
    -as a fan, knowing when he gets the ball, his chances of scoring are very high

    I say its close, but I go with Carmelo

  • Guitar Hero

    1. Kobe
    2. Melo
    3. Dirk
    4. Wade
    5. Pierce

  • E$

    Thanks to Melo pure shooting, racist Mavs fans can go back to thier Klan meetings instead of Basketball games

  • Spliff 2 My Lou

    Kevin k you delirious with that Beasley comment.

  • hucklebuck

    SRB-

    Pierce is a good one too, can always get a shot up from anywhere, and when you hit multiple shots with the exact same move at the end of a close playoff game and make it look easy, yes he puts up an argument.

    Dirk-when he is on, he is on. although his sweet spot is the top of the key, never see him on the baselines.

  • Spliff 2 My Lou

    Wilt Chamberlain supposedly the best pure scorer ever and I’m not even talking about on the court.

  • Mikey B

    “Wilt Chamberlain supposedly the best pure scorer ever and I’m not even talking about on the court.”

    confirmed

  • LakeShow84

    When someone can hit a 3 with their left hand just to avoid the block with a defender all over them in a real bball game then they can holla at the Mamba..

    Other than that is it really a question?? Yes Melo is a great scorer but he falls flat too often at this point in his career and he RARELY hits the 40 mark.. Kevin Durant WILL be in a couple of years but right now in his second year he has a couple of game where he lays an egg..

    I like your guys arguements but when has anyone dropped 50+ point 4 games in a row since Wilt?? 81 points on JUMPERS?? Stringing together 40pt games like its nothing?? shit dude wouldve hit 80 twice already if he didnt sit the 4th quarters of those games.. Melo cant even put a scratch on that resume..

    Come on Melo just has a good inside out game with a sweet J.. nothing more nothing less.. he hasnt accomplished anything spectacular with his scoring and he been in the league 6 years.. all of a sudden.. shit he played the Mavericks.. do we really need to recap KB24′s exploits against the Mavericks??

  • Chaos

    i almost got to agree with chuck on this one. if you watch the games melo is one of the best pure scorers in the league….he can drive, hit the mid range jumper, beyond the arc, drive, post moves, can drive past people and overpower some others, etc. kobe is probably the most lethal scorer bcuz he is so relentless but he isnt as efficient as u think, he takes waaay more shots than any one else, same as iverson. lebron can bully people but i havent really seen any post moves and his jumper and three point shot arent as good. he is the best all around played in the league tho. the best pure scorers are. Durant is almost a carbon copy of Melo and may become a better scorer in a couple years as his game diversifies as Melo’s has…

    Kobe, Melo, Dirk, Durant, Lebron, Dwade, Pierce

  • wiz

    I would have to say melo has a advantage over some players on the list because he is taller, I have heard although it does not look like carmelo is one of the quickest players in the league, he gets to the basket easy and can shoot from everywhere on the court. Its a tough decision to make but my top three would be kobe,arenas,and melo.

  • ?

    @4

    Nash??????????????????????

  • David Brandon

    @ dapro,

    i pretty much like your list w/ the exception to one thing. kmart isn’t a volume scorer at all. dude’s a very efficient scorer. remember that night he dropped 50 on something like 11 makes or somethin crazy?? now arenas is another issue! lol

  • LakeShow84

    @ Chaos

    Kobe has a better FG% than Melo.. just saying.. you know efficiency..

  • weezy f

    what happened to bill walton and al michaels commentating the playoffs?

  • dapro

    @DB

    Typo- I was saying Kmart and some of the others were not volume shooters

  • flavur

    Carmelo is definitely the best scorer in the NBA. Now people may say oh no way man forget that do you know there’s this guy named Kobe Bryant yeah did u know he score 81 points in a game so what I say to that is yes Kobe can definitely score a lot of points but that’s only because he has so many moves it’s hard to guard one over the other because he can fadeaway he’s a triple threat player he can penetrate he can isolate you he can shoot off the dribble and he’s such a smart player but Carmelo have limited moves but can score anyway he wants carmelos iso moves are definitely not as good as Kobe’s are but he’s the type of player who just has a knack for scoring and makes it look like he puts no effort into scoring now to finish this novel I’ve written I’ll end it with this there are only two people in NBA history who have scored 44 points in a quarter George Gervin the best scorer in NBA history and CARMELO ANTHONY(the best scorer in todays NBA) .

  • Gerard

    Ray Allen?

  • dk

    @38 Moron alert, so Kobe is not the best ” scorer ” because he has to many moves… Your the best!

  • liukz

    Pure Scorer means he can make 3s,2s,ha can drive,good ft shooter,can finish strong,can deal with contact and finish anyway,LOW POST MOVES,Good jumper,Good rythm

    WHEN HEALTHY:
    Melo,Kobe,Pierce: melo is top because of his size he can do more damage in the paint than Kobe and Pierce. This years playoffs show how good he can be

    and Lebron is gonna get there but his jump shot still average
    so are his 3s
    and FT % still poor for a super star,but he will be at the top of the list he wants to

  • jmg

    81..nuff said!

  • dapro

    @Post 38

    Bruh, you’re not helping the Melo argument!!

  • G

    How can you talk about “pure scorer” and not mention AI? I know dude fell off this season but he was and still isthe definition of the term.

    Others that deserve mention:
    Ray Allen
    Michael redd
    Durrant

    Shit might as well put JR smith on the list since he can’t do anything but score

  • Vinny

    if labron and roy were selfish they would be in the top 5-they can score!! but they are unselfish great passer’s! How can Wade not be in the top 5!
    @4-nash- seriously???? and no way joe johnson should be on this list. i’d go
    1-wade
    2Kobe
    3Labron
    4Pierce
    5Vince Carter
    i dont even have Melo in my top 5.

  • nowwhatyo

    pure scorers = ball hogs
    i’d have to say a pure scorer only looks to score. basically, guys who are black holes with the ball. if you give them the rock, you might as well run back on d, because they ain’t passin. the shot’s going up!

    lot’s of players fit my definition, here are a few other players to mention:
    amare
    stephen jackson
    monte ellis
    jamal crawford
    nate robinson
    zach randolph
    ben gordon
    kevin martin
    oj mayo

  • http://www.myspace.com/beenobrown BERN BROGDEN

    I agree with #38 – IT’S KOBE.

    LMFAO!!!!!!

  • http://dimemag.com Melo2TDot

    @ Laker Nataion: are u SLOW or just stupid? In years past u could say that Melo doesnt play D but if u’ve watched even one game at all this post season (or regular season fro that matter) u would know that Melo in fact does play Defense. heck, the highlighted yesterday for the Slow viewers like urself. Learn basketball b4 u comment

  • http://dimemag.com Melo2TDot

    33 point quarter. thats all

  • hahns

    haha wow- i cant believe kev k brought up beasley in the convo. thats possibly the most ridiculous thing ive ever heard. and kev k, youre validating that bc pat riles said it?? thats the same thing as mark cuban sticknig by jkidd saying hes better than devin harris.

  • jay26th

    @ post 4. Those names may be considered for pure shooters but not pure scorer. Scorer’s create points in multiple ways. Its gotta be Kobe. LBJ 2nd.

  • KB24

    Michael Ruffin.

  • jay26th

    Oh, can’t forget Dwade. He did a lot with a weak supporting cast this season.

  • isaiah k

    I have to give it to Carmelo because he has a reliable post-game that a lot of the other guys on this list don’t have. Lebron just started hanging out in there, but he doesn’t go there often. And Kobe just does the MJ fadeaway when on the post. And Melo can shoot, he can drive, one of the best midrange games in the League, and he has a lot of tattoos.

  • tats

    seriously people, 81 points. This dude scored 81 points in one game in regulation. Kobe is the only dude on this list that is truly and utterly unguardabble.

  • http://www.myspace.com/beenobrown BERN BROGDEN

    TOM SHEPPARD

  • http://deleted Luigi

    YES! I SEE A GILBERT SIGHTING!!! =]]

    lmao. anyways Gil is a pure scorer..but that knee derailed him..i think hes gonna be like Chauncey Billups now…a distributor who gets buckets..

    as for pure scorer…id go for either Wade or Kobe..Melo’s just tearing it up right now. Durant will have his chance. PP aint really one since he just pulls up alot. i think Melo/KB/Wade have that killer instinct in them that makes em a pure scorer

  • Jah

    The man who scored 81 points in one game wins this argument.

    I like the following rankings…done according to which player I believe has the most offensive “options” at his disposal.

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. LeBron James
    3. Carmelo Anthony
    4. Dwyane Wade
    5. Dirk Nowitzki

  • Rainbow

    AI isn’t a pure scorer, he shoots about 42%. Thats just jacking. I’d take Tony Parker and his 50% any day.

  • nasirjones

    all those claimin kobe wins it cause he got 81 on raps, you cant judge on a single game. Melo had 33 in a quarter but that fact alone doesnt make him the best, it’s the fact that when the nugz need scoring they go to melo. Kobe has the ball all the time dribbles, crosses over, pump fakes, throw ball at backboard, lay it in. Thats unbelievable but Melo would just jabstep and shoot. Both are wort 2points and melo makes it look easy while kobe scores, everybody is like wow incredible fade-away, what a craaazy shot, so it goes unnoticed that he misses a lot of those.

  • Dave

    Um, no DWill anywhere on here? The times Sloan played him as a two or when he needed to take over games he is nearly as unstoppable as the guys on dime’s list. He’s not kobe or melo, but DWill can fill it up and is maybe the best ball handler in the league with both hands, all the way to the hole, or pulling up or crossing over for a jumper. I’m just sayin.

  • SayItAintSo

    I don’t get how half of these fools are lining up to be Melo’s athletic supporter because he is FINALLY showing up in the playoffs and showing a TINY bit of consistency for the first time since he made in the L.

    One cat up there talking about how great Melo is at defense because he KIND OF slowed down an overrated player in this most recent series.

    I agree that Melo has the tools to be the purest scorer but he just isn’t consistent enough. He has too many down years, games, weeks, months etc. Bottomline is if you purely wanted someone to score and didn’t know what obstacles they would encounter (five men guarding them, have to pull up from 30 feet, need to get you that last second bucket) but you just had to choose one of those two score points I would hands down choose Kobe despite his love for nonconsenting Colorado women.

  • doc

    haha to the person who put LEBRON..its hilarious. do you know that he makes more than 50% of his shots on freethrows while not commiting ANY FOULS.? too bad if he didn’t get all those calls he wouldn’t even be averaging 20 points. PRODUCT OF THE NBA.

  • SagJism

    @39 Didnt you just make the point that kobe is the best pure scorer? A pure scorer is someone that can effortlessly score the ball on opponents. Now what you have to take in to consideration is how are these guys checked in a game. for Melo, he dosnot even warrent a double team so imo that ecludes him. I would say Ray Allen right now isthe best scorer in the league, followed by Kobe, Granger, Tmac (when healty) Arenas, Dwade, then LBJ. Cmon DIme, your better than that.

  • bigdoggchad

    I hate when people say melo didn’t get out of the first round till billups came. Did Kobe get out of the first round without shaq or Gasol? Um…….NO. You’ll all forget Kobe wanted out before Gasol was given to them. What about Wade did he get out of the first round in the EAST without shaq? Um…… that’s another no. But yet you don’t here anything about those 2 not getting out of the first round with another great player.

  • bigdoggchad

    @ SagJism Do you watch basketball? Melo doesn’t even warrant a double team?? Are you kidding? Why was Carlisle coming at Melo with a double team everytime he touched it? If he doesn’t warrant a double team why is he always being doubled?

  • http://www.myspace.com/beenobrown BERN BROGDEN

    @65 – you kinda had a good argument until you said Melo doesn’t even warrant double teams.

    AWWWWW MAN! Where have YOU been????

    I’m with #39, he seems to agree with me that KOBE’S the best pure scorer right now.

    But Melo’s ish be lookin’ SO SMOOV!!!

    i LOVE carmelo’s game.

  • Pais

    Half of 81 would be a career high for 95% of the people who ever played the game at any level. How did anyone ever think this is a topic open for debate?

  • djKianoosh

    when AI was scoring 40 point games regularly yeah you could say back then he was the more pure scorer,, but those days are long gone sadly… #60 Rainbow is right, Imagine if AI had Tony Parker’s 50% shooting? scary. anyway

    Based on the playoffs right now, it’s Melo, but Kobe’s done it for longer (and that 81 was a couple years ago now, so I dont know if you admit that as evidence to this particular discussion, can you? just sayin)

    before Dirk’s Mavs melted in the finals against Wade, Dirk was a 7 foot Larry Bird. for real, the guy was unstoppable for a minute.

    right now, this moment, Melo is it. he raises up, and that jumper just goes in. his reputation is expanding faster than the universe.

  • Ty

    BEST PURE SCORER = KOBE BRYANT!! dude scores from ANYWHERE!
    1) Kobe
    2) Dirk
    3) Wade
    4) Manu
    5) Granger

  • http://madbuckets.blogspot.com madbuckets

    i HATE kobe, but i got to respect the game. he is a scorer. Maybe this year he is finally showing some signs of age. he doesnt get to the rim as easy anymore, but man. 81 points? 61 this year? 62 in 3 quarters? this shouldnt even be a question.

    Melo, BRoy, and Durrant are my next 3. Lebron is quickly catching all fo these guys, especially if his shooting stays on par next year with what he has done in the playoffs this year.

    I’d have to throw Ray Allen into the mix also. The guy can be put on the best scorer and best shooter list. one of the few in the nba that can be put on both lists.

  • LakeShow84

    LMAO

    Half you guys arguing for Melo wouldnt have even thought some dumb shit like this if Barkely hadnt said it.. and why he said that who knows..

    Alcohol is a helluva drug..

    Melo has a nice J, could have a better post game (dude just fetches his post misses like no other), and can drive the rock.. but i dont think having a smooth jumpshot makes u the best scorer in the NBA.. shit i’ve watched him get bottled up TOO many times..

  • doc

    i always thought he was the best pure scorer in the league.Melo scores to easy thats the basis of pure scorer.Kobe works for his buckets.Bron works for his buckets,Wade works for his buckets.After those 4 nobody else is in the scoring discussion.But yeah Id make Melo the most pure.

  • oklahoma wayne

    it has to be kobe
    61 in the garden
    81 anywhere,
    playing out west
    remember 12 of 15 ALL NBA were in the west
    that big
    when he only scores 20 they say he was shutdown
    65, 50′s,60′s,50′s, then a 40′sand they say he was shutdown
    avg 35+ one season carried his team to the finals (6games)
    (LBJ was swept in 4) he plays without the ball makes moves unthought of.
    beats triple teams 40+ agains battier, artest, kerilenko, billups, raja bell,
    all with no extra steps (LBJ you know crab-dribble guy)
    im just saying it is obvious ask the players not barkley he barely beat theat ref in a heads up

  • Chaos

    man, see yall need to stop confusing pure scorer with ball hog and stop saying thats all melo can do. dude does rebound and has gotten way better on defense…but in terms of scoring he is top 5. i left out KMart II, dude is a super efficient scorer and no one can stop his skinny ass

  • doc

    Reading yall bullshit its confirmed.Yall dont know what he meant at all.Kobe being the most skilled dont have shit to do with most pure.Nobody scores easier than Melo.NOBODY.And probaly the dude that CAN score easier than him is Kevin Durant.Melo and Durant score so easy and smooth they game look lazy.That defines it for me and anybody else who ball.Yeah Kobe will hit that J,but if he did a spin move,up faked,then fadeawayed,how is that more pure than Melo catching it in the same spot.Smiling,Jab stepping u so potent the player always goes for it.Then just draining a j in your grill.What yall think is easier?Which is why Melo gets the top spot.

  • Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09)

    @66 wade made it out of the 1st round with LO and Caron Butler, the year before Shaq.

  • Rob

    Wow, I’m a Heat homer, and I can’t even bring myself to mention Beasley. How ridiculous.

    Kobe gets his. The defense doesn’t even matter. Unless you have guys like Battier who study his EVERY move, there’s no point in even playing D on Kobe. I don’t like the guy, but it’s simply the truth.

  • shaka

    Kobe by far.

    Also what gets ignored is Kobe is the only person that gets double teamed PASSED the 3 point line, inside he draws the triple and still drops numbers.

  • slice850

    this list is flawed. no kendrick perkins? no joakim noah?

  • weng santos

    Kobe is a better scorer in terms of productivity.

    Melo is a better pure scorer.

    This is about one thing- on one play, all else being equal, who will have an easier time to get the ball to the rim while doing less and expending less energy?

    Melo has all the moves, touch and power, and then some. Whether or not he uses it all in every play on every game is beside the point. This is not about having an awesome night and dropping 81 points. This is not about getting calls and going to the line, because that’s on the refs. This is about Melo being the guy that if he needed to and if he wanted to, he could create his own shot- a good shot- against most anybody effortlessly.

    With Kobe, he scores a lot, but you see him try so hard to get his buckets. He has to max himself just to get a decent shot a lot of times. God bless him that he can do it on most every play, but that’s not really pure talent. A lot of it is desire, and effort, and work ethic, and not just being a pure, natural scorer.

    Kobe was and is a better, more complete player. He was put on this earth to be an MVP, a great player. Melo, on the other hand, has one purpose for being: one play, putting the ball in the hole, by any means necessary.

    Besaides, Kobe said it himself: hands down, he said Melo is the hardest guy for him to guard. For someone who has played against Jordan, played with Shaq, and takes tremendous pride in his defense, that’s saying a lot.

  • ?

    MELO OVER KOBE ANYDAY KOBE FORCES THE ACTION AND GOES HARD LIKE REALLY HARD YOU CAN TELL MELO IS REAL EASY OUT THERE LIKE ITS NOTHING KOBE TAKES ALMOST 40 shots to get 40 points THINK ABOUT IT IF AN EVERAGE PLAYER IN THE LEAUGUE TAKES AT LEAST 30 SHOTS he would get 40 too wake up kobe chucks to get numbers

  • http://dimemag.com Melo2TDot

    Whoever said Melo doesn’t warrant a double team shud just delete their name off of DIME’s commenting section. Its obvious that u haven’t watched denver play EVER

  • Manny

    You can make the argument that Melo is the best pure scorer in the league. I mean, the guy can shoot the 3-pointer, the mid-range and is 6’8″, so he can take you down to the post. He also has an explosive first step, can go left and right. He’s like Paul Pierce, but much more explosive and quicker and younger too. He’s a good finisher too. And you can’t knock him on scoring in the clutch because he does that well too. Bottomline, I kind of agree with Chuck, Melo’ is arguably the best pure scorer in the league with his inside-outside game. And Kobe is just…well, he’s Kobe.

  • Manny

    ohh…And Melo’ can get to the line and make em count too…

  • Biggeddy

    81 POINTS!!! He outscored the Dallas Mavericks by himself over the 3 quarters that he played! And I’m not talking about lottery Mavs… that team made it to (and should’ve won) the finals that year. He has NO WEAKNESSES! His range is listed as anywhere within the arena. He is doing this while only having the use of THREE FINGERS on his SHOOTING HAND!

    Best scorer in the game? Kobe! Others are closing in on him as he’s getting older. But he still has’em beat.

  • President_Nixon

    Kobe all day. I love Melo’s game and when he’s on, HE’S ON, but Kobe can turn his game on at will and put 40 in the mouth of the league’s best defenders.

  • http://stonerodco.com dennis

    Broy is #1 he can score from anywhere ,anytime with either hand ,with everyone doubleteaming him.flat out the best and still developing .

  • Murcielago

    i’m going kobe on this. i sometimes think that he has too many moves in his arsenal for his own good. it’s like he’s toying with his defender, looking and waiting for a challenge. only knock on him now is he doesn’t take it to the hole that much. but when you have that pretty fadeaway jumper plus range, who can blame you?

    plus he’s freaking creative, he’s trademarked that “i’m bottled up but i’m throwing it off the backboard then follow it up” move.

    carmelo, pierce, and durant have that smooth game going for them that’s why they’re getting in the conversation.

  • http://stocktondraftedsixteenth.blogspot.com BS

    In terms of their total career, the best is Allen Iverson. Point-wise, he dominates. Kobe has the ability to score from anywhere, but Allen Iverson has scored more.

    In terms of the NBA right now, the best pure scorer, healthy, is, honestly, Carmelo Anthony. The other guys on that list contribute offensively in other ways. ‘Melo is a scorer, first and foremost.

    In terms of who could be the best pure scorer, the answer to that is clearly Kevin Durant. I haven’t met someone who can average 25 ppg in their second season in a long time. That’s not just good offensive talent. That’s scary offensive talent. And I have every reason to believe he’ll just keep on scoring more. 30, 35, maybe 40 one season. Granted, his defense stinks, but he’s a truly incredible offensive player.

  • Ian

    ty
    thank you i didnt want to say it because of the haters here but manu is one of the best pure scorers in the league dude is effective from everywhere.

    kobe fans relax with the 81 pts thing is one game and yeah you have good reasons to say hes the best pure scorer (id go with durant) but this is not it, how many dudes have gone for 50 that arent that big a deal???

  • Ian

    bigdog
    thats because kobe fans have selective memory i specially like the one they use with gasol “pau didnt get out of the first round without kobe” LOL guess what kobe didnt either being the man of his team.
    these fools dont judge everyone the same. gasol did the same with memphis that kobe did with the lakers.

    oklahoma
    so kobe won 2 games in the finals and bron didnt that makes him better??? dude compare the team bron carried in 07 to the team kobe played with (cant use the word carried0 in 08 then get back to me.

  • Claw

    Kobe scored 81 against the flippin Raptors that played him one on one, how is he doing against a Rocket squad without 2 of their All Stars?

    A stud such as Kobe should have swept these guys by just going off against them and scoring at will, don’t want to hear crying about nobody around him either.

    You telling me Lebron and the Cavs go 7 against the depleted Rockets? Don’t think so, Lebron might not shoot jumpers like Kobe but he attacks the rim and creates the points that sometime Kobe falls into love with jumpers and his FG% suffers and which also doesn’t open shots for teamates.

    If I need a score I call on LBJ not fadeaway Kobe, but these are the top 2 and in their own tier along with Wade, Melo is in that 2nd tier with Dirk and Durant.

  • UncheckedAggression

    Obviously not everyone agrees on the definition of a “pure scorer.” If I had to choose the best scorer I would simply pick Kobe. He can be dangerous in any situation. I do think Carmelo is close though. And if this last season means anything, Durant will be making his case soon.

  • doc

    Dudes dont understand the meaning between best and most pure.Thats coach talk.Dudes just fans they cant get that deep.

  • fan

    this shows why the pay people do broadcast, you can be a fan of a player, but damn pure scorer means just that i could 30ppg if i toke 35 to 40 shots with 10 fts. melo score easier is all brakley said. he does not take as many shoots and its easy for him to score. his shot is better then wades, doesnt take as many as kobe, range is then james, so pure goes to melo

  • barnaby jones

    melo wasnt even the best pure scorer in the last playoff series he was in. d i r k

  • Max

    Kobe’s 81 in a game was amazing, but Melo scored 33 points in a quarter. That’s a feat, too.

  • Jose

    81. Enough said people

  • Matt

    ben wallace. hands down.

  • peterjeter

    So if we are saying best pure scorer means best FG%, then SHAQ or Dwight who lead the league in FG cuz they dunk or take shots from within 3 feet of the basket all the time.

    Pure shooter would mean best jumpshot (from about 10 feet out).

    Ray Allen would come to mind.

    But Kobe is a better shooter from ANYWHERE on the court. He works harder because he is the most dangerous offensive weapon in the game and is always the other team’s defense sole focus (he has been the sole focus of the opposing team ever since shaq left for sure)

  • gardner

    num 65 is right. Think about it. Kobe has the whole team guarding him all the time. period.

  • gardner

    I mean, the whole team. ANY BODY WHO SEES KOBE COMING WILL ATTEMPT TO GUARD HIM. SO…PURE SHOOTER has to be said giving consideration to the amount of points and obviously they are difficult shots because he doesnt get easy ones, not because he loves to take hard shots. He misses alot but how can he not, hell still score on you probably all the time if you sleep.

  • Harlem_World

    Pure scorer and best offensive player is not necessarily the same thing. Kobe is the best offensive player in the league, but don’t get it twisted, he has to work for his and shoots shots of a high level of difficulty and doesn’t make it look it easy. Melo scores so easily because of his combination of size, strength, quickness and shooting touch that he makes it look too easy at times. Because of his advantage at taking it inside when needed, I gotta go with Melo on this one. This doesn’t mean he’s better than Kobe, but just more of a pure scorer. Some have to work to get theirs, that doesn’t make them lesser players – it just means some players have more natural ability in some areas.

  • Jon

    kobewankenobe is overrated.

    The best scorers in the league are Lebron, Melo, Kevin Martin, Roy and Wade.

  • http://www.nba.com BMONEY

    Melois THE MAN.. hands down.. 14 from 20 v’s 13 from 28.. Kobe only get’s a mention because he is a hog! Watch game 1 DEN v LA!!! The Lakers made their comeback with Kobe and Pau on the BENCH!

  • Niggin

    J-Smoove niggaz…. he can shoot 3s now…. JOSH SMITH 4 MVP!

  • Mr.Lee

    kobe, move on please

  • joe2johnson4mvp

    joe johnson is the smoothest….

  • gardner

    ANYMORE COMMENTS?
    KOBE

  • rayates

    Kobe no question!

  • LADaBest

    Look, I’m a huge laker fan. I absolutely love the lakes. But, in all honesty, Melo is the best pure scorer. Kobe is a better player, and ball handler for that matter. However, Melo is the best pure scorer. I hate to say it but it’s true.

    O well, I’ll take a fourth ring over being a great scorer!!!!

  • http://youtubefoebiddenrecords mallaki

    it seems as though people who claim to be nba fans aren’t really nba fans at all.there is no contest what so ever between kobe melo or lebron.kobe easily surpass these guys. he barely even shoot in the first and second quarter yet he still can get 25 to 40 points. not counting all the energy he spends playing defence also which neither lebron or carmelo do they are way more stronger than him yet some how in games he ends up guarding them also not to mention when he was playing with shaq he was the SECOND OPTION yet he still average 28 points a game then they claim he’s a ball hog but how can that be when he don’t even lead the league in shoot attemps per game not to mention he also lead his team in assists per game how can you do both and what about all the times he was taking out ofv games because of BLOWOUTS not playing 3rd and 4th quarters can you even count those who hold the recordsc for most 3 pointers in a single game KOBE WHAT ABOUT THE 56 POINTS IN 2 QUARTERS HE HAD THEN HE HAD AND DID’NT PLAY AGAIN WHAT ABOUT THE 61 IN THE 3RD HE DIDN’T GET TO PLAY THE 4TH AND THE 9 STRAIGHT 40 PLUS GAMES AND THE 81 AND THE 5 50 POINT PLUS GAMES IN A ROW all played at DIFFERNT TIMES. PEOPLE ARE JUST HATING ON THIS GUY BUT THE PROOF IS CLEARLY SEEN HE SO GOOD HE THE ONLY ONE IN THE NBA THAT CAN SCORE 20 TO 25 POINTS IN A GAME AND IT’S CALLED A LET DOWN BUT FOR ANYBODY ELSE IT’S CONSIDERD DAMN GOOD THESE CONVERSATIONS ARE REALLY DULL AND FAKE AND SHOW THE TRUE HEART OF PEOPLE EVEN WITH THE LEBRON CASE HE NOT BETTER THAN KOBE HE EVEN ADMIT IT OUT HIS OWN MOUTH WHEN HE WENT TO CLEAVELAND HE WENT TO LOOSING TEAM THAT HAD NOBODY SO OF COURSE HE WAS TO LEAD IN SCORING REBOUNDING ASSISTS KOBE WOULD HAVE DONE THE SAME THING BUT EVEN BETTER KOBE WAS TRADED TO THE LAKERS WHO ALREADY WAS LOADED WITH TALENT AND SUPERSTARS SO THAT LIMITED HIM OF HIS ABILITY TO FULLY SHINE BECAUSE HE WAS YOUNG A ROOKIE WHO HAD TO COME OFF THE BENCH.BECAUSE THE LAKERS HAD TO CATER TO THEY OTHER STARS WEL PAID AND EVERYBODY KNOW YOU HAVE TO PLAY PLAYERS WHO EARN ALOT OF MONEY.KOBE IS UNLIKE ANY OF THESE GUYS THAT’S WHY HE IS COMPARED TO JORDAN SOMBODY WHOS NOT EVEN IN THE LEAGUE ANYMORE BECAUSE THE GUYS THAT ARE DON’T COME CLOSE.HE DO IT ALL WHEN YOU NEED THAT SHOT RATHER IT’S A 3 OR A 2 HE GONE MAKE IT HAPPEN WHEN YOU NEED THAT STOP HE GONE GET THAT TURN OVER ANYWAY IT’S NEEDED HE GON COME THROUGH.SO STOP HATING REAL NBA FANS LOVE THE GAME NOT THE PEOPLE CAUSE YOU DON’T KNOW THEM BUT YOU CAN KNOW THE GAME IF LOOK AT IT FROM AN HONEST HEART UNTIL NEXT TIME THIS IS MALLAKI SIGNING OFF YOU CAN SEE ME AT YOUTUBE BROADCAST YOURSELF THEN TYPE IN FOEBIDDEN RECORDS LEAVE A COMMENT IF YOU WANNA HOLLAR AT SOMEBODY REAl and make dollars…….

  • skyer93

    kobe is compared to jordan???
    his airness kill him in all parts of the game!!!!
    kobe is the best now,but stop the comparisons with AIR!!!

  • ay yo.

    I think the other night showed that it is MELO!