The biggest X-factor in the NBA Finals, plus the LeBron fallout
LeBron James (photo. Mannion)
It probably shouldn’t have come as a surprise that even after LeBron‘s team was eliminated from the championship race, Sunday’s headline NBA story still revolved around King James. In this case, it was LeBron’s actions immediately following Cleveland’s season-ending Game 6 loss the other night. As you’ve no doubt seen by now, as soon as the final buzzer sounded on Orlando’s blowout win, LeBron made a beeline for the locker room without acknowledging Dwight Howard or anyone else on the Magic. Then, after briefly talking to his teammates, LeBron skipped the mandatory post-game press conference. As you’d expect, the LeBron haters came out in full force crying “classless,” while the LBJ defenders wrote it off as their guy just being a competitor who was pissed off at the loss. Certified champs like Isiah Thomas and Bill Belichick have done the no-handshake (or the customized eff-you-handshake) before; what do you think of LeBron’s post-game show? … LeBron did talk on Sunday, saying he e-mailed Dwight his congrats, then added, “It’s hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them. I’m a winner. It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that. If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them. That doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a competitor. That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.” … Now, as far as the two teams that are still playing, the big news in Orlando is the possible/rumored return of Jameer Nelson for the Finals. Any team that gets its All-Star PG back for the biggest series of the season is in good shape, but what makes this so much bigger is that Jameer was the main guy responsible for torching L.A. in Orlando’s regular-season sweep. In the two Magic/Lakers games, Jameer averaged 27.5 points and 6.5 dimes. Obviously he’d be rusty and not in prime basketball shape, though, and then there’s the issue of playing time. Both Skip and Jameer will say all the right things to the press if in fact Jameer can play, but you know it’ll be an issue behind closed doors. The Magic have indicated they’d only need Jameer for 15 minutes a night, but what happens in crunch time of a close game: Will Stan Van Gundy lean towards his trusted incumbent, or in Rafer Alston, the guy who has QB’d his team to this point so far? … The Lakers’ biggest personnel issue begins and ends with Andrew Bynum. For a whole year all we’ve been hearing out of L.A. is how much more dangerous the Lakers are with Bynum on the court. And while that was true in the regular season, the kid has fallen off the map in the playoffs. His 7.8-point, 3.3-rebound, 1.3-block averages against Denver represented his best series this postseason. Clearly, Bynum’s defense — or at least his six fouls — will be useful against Dwight Howard, but with the way he’s been playing, he could end up basically being a tackling dummy. How much will Phil Jackson aim to play Bynum? And how long can he stay on the court and avoid foul trouble? … Mild drama from Lakers camp, as Shannon Brown is being sued over an alleged “sex-related incident” that (allegedly) took place in Denver earlier this season when Brown played for the Bobcats. Make your own Kobe jokes … Whether or not you believe anything Peter Vecsey writes in the New York Post is your own business, but it bears mentioning that Vecsey is reporting that Carlos Boozer thinks he’ll end up with the Pistons or Nets after he opts out of his deal this summer. Booz has had some rough patches in Utah, but anyone who can come back making $12.6 million with Deron Williams making them look better than they actually are might want to seriously think about staying put. How many times will Boozer watch Devin Harris or Rodney Stuckey go 1-on-5 before he starts rolling his eyes and thinking about the good ol’ days? … And apparently Nick Calathes just wants to get the hell out of Florida. The 6-6 sophomore point guard already declared early for the NBA Draft despite not being a first-round lock by any stretch, and now it looks like he’s going to play pro ball in Greece. Calathes’ family is Greek and he has dual citizenship. If you were in his position, which looks more attractive: About $1.1 million in Greece with a great possibility for lots of playing time, or about $800,000 to $900,000 as a late-first round pick in the NBA with (most likely) minimal PT at best? … We’re out like Calathes …
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June 1st, 2009 at 12:06 am
razzle says:
Who would’ve thought…Orlando..
June 1st, 2009 at 12:18 am
Hey!! says:
Lebron is a warrior but he should be more gracious in defeat. Nobody wins them all, especially at that level of competition.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:20 am
the cynic says:
no wonder Brown and Kobe get along so well
Orlando would be crazy to bring Jameer back into the fold at this point in the season. Force him to sit, players can’t just come into NBA finals intesity from sitting out the past 4 months. Jameer needs to come back next year, but not now when the team has clearly defined roles for there 8 man rotation and situational players
June 1st, 2009 at 12:30 am
stanaeciouz says:
even boxers after they got physically beaten shake their opponents hands…
June 1st, 2009 at 12:33 am
jzsmoove says:
Jameer must swallow the pill, he should take that 15 mins and play it. He dont wanna end up scapegoat if he destroys the locker room right now and cost the chip. thats if he is coming back.
Go Magics!!
June 1st, 2009 at 12:34 am
Jay says:
LBJ = No Class!
I think LBJ is an awesome player but come on just shake your opponent’s hand and show some class. There’s no need to act like a spoiled bitch about it!
It’s has nothing to do with being a competitior and it’s more about having respect. The Cavs were beaten by a better team. I’m not saying that LBJ should go to every Orlando player, shake their hand and praise them but just show some class and if there’s an Orlando player near by offer a quick hand shake.
Now LBJ comes across as an immature, spoiled cry baby!
June 1st, 2009 at 1:24 am
smoove chips says:
i reasoned that lbj just got so emotional that he walked off the court.maybe,i figured he didnt wanna cry in public.im a grown man so knoww about making mistakes and also about making mistakes when you emotional.ive done it before so given his track record i was willing to hear what came out of his mouuth before i fully gave a complete judgement.so after seeing him walk off,seeing mo williams stumble thru some stupid explanation ,knowing he had time to soak everything in and reading that he emailed howard i was shocked.that singlehandedly means he has no regardfor anything the other magic players brought to the table.gotta tell you kid,that was very,very sloppy.lakers in six.welcome to the torture chamber!
June 1st, 2009 at 1:34 am
solomon (el latino machismo) says:
damn, even mma fighters, who literally nearly kills each other in the octagon, shakes hands after a bout, even on an obvious win or loss… boxers do that… wrestlers do that… ok, forget the last sample…
anyway, mr. lebron, undoubtedly, you are the epitome of a superstar, a genetic freak, a phenom in every sense, you can be the greatest hoop player of all time when it’s all said and done… but have you ever heard of the term “sportsmanship”? it’s a sport you’re playing, by the way… it’s not too late to change, you’re still young…
just effin’ ranting…
we’re out like #23
June 1st, 2009 at 1:37 am
ponky_alolor says:
i was trying to give LBJ a break after he stormed out but after his statements now…it does lack some grace and sportsmanship.
Hope he could have just congratulated Dwight then look forward to bounce back next year. Whoever’s doing his PR is messing up.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:39 am
ponky_alolor says:
a lebron james team doesn’t panic. doesn’t shake hands in defeat…
June 1st, 2009 at 1:41 am
Promoman says:
LeBron will get the KG pass for this one. He’ll be labelled as “competitive” or “hungry”. KG gets the same pass when he’s looking and acting like an ass. Like the Big Baby incident, for example. He goes on Big Baby for screwing up and turned the ball over himself a few times straight and the Celtics barely won. MJ used to be a bad winner too. He’d look at opponents like they were shit when they tried to shake his hand, as was Isiah. Don’t get me started on Bill Belichick’s spying/cheating ass. Jameer should come off the bench. He’s going to need time to get back in sync and he’s sort of shoot-first too. The Magic can’t afford to pull a Dwight freeze-out in the Finals.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:42 am
BRUCE says:
Lebron
How about the opponents in the first and second round?
They were swept and they shook your hand!
Gracious in defeat, play the game with class on and off the court. MJ said that!
June 1st, 2009 at 1:48 am
tp says:
not even about class, its about being a paid professional.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:06 am
tp says:
this is going to be one hell of a fun series. there are mismatches all over the place.
that being said, lakers in 6.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:41 am
LakeShow84 says:
Lol i dont even think the Lebron thing was that serious..
I expected all the fame,hype,luv to get to him.. he showed his diva side.. when he SHOULDNT have.. but its not that big.. just goes to show..
No ones above it..
June 1st, 2009 at 2:58 am
POPPI GEE says:
Haaahaaa LeBron’s first “character or roll-model issue” in the L. The Wolves are on attack mode. I mean dude should have congratulated the other team, but it honestly and really ain’t a biggie that he didn’t.
I can’t get down with his reasoning though. You needed 2 more games to win it all and were struggling greatly with the ones you won. So surely losing shouldn’t have been this great shock or pain he makes it out to be. He has shaken hands after losing before so it shouldn’t be all this lame logic into not doing it this time.
Still I like that for him. He needs a lil razzle dazzle. He still a good guy and all but for real he should be complaining about Cleveland’s GM and the squad he has. If anything he should have congratulated the other team and then explained to his boys if they ever hope to do better, they have go to raise their level.
To me it’s just a new stage of taking this championship ish serious for LeBron. You can win the regular season with most games, have the best home record and be MVP, make funny commercials, have cool routines pre-game and be all buddy buddy with ya boys and make trick shots and do wonderous things, but it don’t mean stank if ya squad ain’t right and ready come PLAYOFF time. Yes be mad LeBron, but be mad at Usher Raymond and all the Cleveland Cavs higher ups who haven’t given you what you need to make it through the playoffs to win it all.
So happy for Rafer. I didn’t want to see him leave Houston really as I thought he would make a great back-up to a better guard. I am glad he went to a contender and now wow, leading his squad in the finals. Amazing. I really hope he is soaking it up cause you never know when he will see it all again. Hope it encourages other playground greats to keep grinding.
June 1st, 2009 at 3:37 am
John says:
The thing about Lebron, is that they lost by 13 ptos. So, he had about 5 minutes game time and 25 minutes regular time to accept the defeat. They didnt lost at buzzer in game 7 at home … Thats just not right, with the bunch of guys working for him, they should came out with a better excuse.
June 1st, 2009 at 3:37 am
ponky_alolor says:
@ poppi, i’m with you that Lebron needs this kind of adversity. I mean he needs a nasty-mean streak of some sorts. He’s gotta earn it and he needs all the help from this team.
MJ had the pistons whip his ass. Kobe had his airballs versus Utah + being a back-up early on for Eddie Jones (imagine that). All were humbling experiences. Bron should just take it all in.
June 1st, 2009 at 3:40 am
Flying_Aussie_Dutchman says:
Meh, in 2 weeks whos gonna really care about the LeBron thing? I’m already over it, at the heat of the moment he probably stormed off the court, then realised what he did, he aint gonna come running back out.. He’ll look like a dick
June 1st, 2009 at 3:48 am
AL says:
howard is going to have trouble with gasol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjsFu882zks
June 1st, 2009 at 3:53 am
jp2506 says:
Wholesale cigarettes
cheap cigarettes
June 1st, 2009 at 4:01 am
kulas says:
why the heck is he wearing an NY cap in this interview? last time I heard he was playing for the Cleveland Cavaliers…I know he’s a big fan but come on…
http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2009/news/story?id=4219933
June 1st, 2009 at 4:04 am
LB says:
It’s not just the fact that Lebron stormed off the court that angers me. I could get that Lebron was pissed after seeing his season end. But what pisses me off is that he didnt apologize for it, offering some lame-ass excuse saying it’s OK for him to be classless because he’s “a competitor” and all that. The right thing to do would have been to tell everyone “I want to apologize for being caught in the heat of the moment, but I would like to congratulate the Orlando Magic for being the bette team”
And what kind of move is it to let Mo Williams and the rest of the Cavs to take all the heat from the media? You dont think the rest of the team was as pissed and crushed as Lebron? What kind of message does it send to his teammates? A true leader would have been with them, to show his mates that he will be with them through good times and bad.
That being said, Lebron seems like a good dude. Maybe this expeience will just be a learning experience for im to become the champion he will likely be in the future.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:18 am
LB says:
Gotta give credit to Orlando tho. Definitely did not see that one coming. I wrote them off after they struggled to put a pretty inexperienced and inconsistent Sixers team away. But now that I think about it, they’re a pretty complete team. Dwight, as we all know is just an animal. Hedo and Rashard are matchup nightmares because they’re both 6’10 and can really shoot it. Too quick and skilled for most guys they’re size, and too big for most other wings to guard, so it’s really pick your poison for those guys. They’ve got a deep bench. Pietrus has evolved from an athlete into a real basketball player. He’ll defend his ass off, can open 3s and slash his way to the hoop for athletic buckets (the matchup between him and Ariza will be real interesting, though they probably wont guard each other). Even Anthony Johnson has a 40 point playoff game under his belt, plus a Sportscenter worthy cram on Theo Ratliff (can anyone think of anyone less likely to pop off for a 40 piece- in a playoff game no less?. Plus their confidence is peaking after overcoming adversity in the Philly and Boston series, and beating a heavily favored Cavs team.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:24 am
LB says:
As for Jameer Nelson, Nelson should definitely sit this one out, no question. Look at how awful Stephon Marbury looked after trying to come back after a long layoff in the pressure cooker that is the playoffs. Nelson will probably hurt his team more than help it by trying to get his rythmn back while everyone else is locked in from having played playoff basketball. Besides, Skip has proved to be a capable QB, and the Magic have capable backups to spell Skip. Like I said before, Anthony Johnson has a 40 point playoff game under his belt, so it’s not like he cant ball.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:41 am
TONY P. says:
READ THIS AND TELL ME IF YOU WANT YOUR KIDS TO BE LIKE THIS ! DO YOU WANT THE KIDS ACROSS AMERICA TO WEAR THE PRODUCTS OF THIS SELF-CENTERED JERK ? TEACH THE KIDS OF TODAY THAT SPORTSMANSHIP IS DEAD ?……..James said he sent an e-mail to Howard following Saturday’s game. “It’s hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them,” he said. “I’m a winner. It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that. If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them. That doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a competitor. That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”…………………WHAT A FREAKIN LOSER ! I DO NOT WANT MY KIDS TO ACT LIKE HIM AT ALL !!!!
June 1st, 2009 at 5:22 am
Kryptonite Hops says:
Ladies and Gentlemen, your MVP and Coach of the Year of the Cleveland Cavaliers! [crickets chirping in the background]
June 1st, 2009 at 5:22 am
Josh Tha roc says:
Jameericle def should wait till next yr. As hard as that seems.question maybe for QQ would the magic be inthe finals had jameer not gone down?I know he was ballin his assoff but maybe it steeled them and they have to rely on their advatages more ie hedo rawAnd d12
June 1st, 2009 at 6:24 am
YOUNGFED..."Black on black, wit dem 22's" says:
Nobody hates Lebron we just hate the NBA’s bias for him and the Ref’s love for him.
Also I for one do not want Carlos “Broken Knee’s” Boozer on the Pistons. I say we run with what we got and go hard after Bosh or LBJ next go round.
YOUNGFED’S BANGER OF THE DAY: Termanolgy “Nothings real”
http://www.xxlmag.com/online/?p=47712
Incredible shot by LBJ: Must see TV
http://blogs.sohh.com/sohh_tv/2009/05/013744.html
June 1st, 2009 at 6:43 am
Lee says:
Lebron lost because he decided to play Kobe basketball. 40pts a game is a great achievement, but it gets you home early. Has Kobe even cracked 40pts this playoffs ??
I don’t understand the change, they’d been winning all year playing great team ball. Walking off was a dick move, I’d kinda come round to maybe liking him then he pulls this.
June 1st, 2009 at 6:47 am
fLaVa says:
I dont see how everyone is throwing LBJ’s teams under the bus for not performing or even blamming the GM during the regular season when they won 66games?
Cavs choked and didnt adjust to what the Magic was doing by having Varjao playing out on Rashard.. Now we know why the Magic gave Lewis the max contract..lol
Lakers in 6.. kobe finals MVP and Shaq cant say nth bout Kobe needs him for a chip!
June 1st, 2009 at 6:48 am
fLaVa says:
LBJ’s teammates*
June 1st, 2009 at 7:02 am
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Maybe what Lebron did was classless, maybe it wasn’t. But prior to that incident nobody had ever really used the word “classless” to desribe Lebron. In fact he’s always seemed to have the utmost respect for the game as well as the players that have paved the way. I just don’t think one mistake in the heat of the moment should define a person.
I don’t completely agree with the way Lebron handled the situation but one act of weakness by no means makes him a classless individual. Get over it people. Let’s give put focus on the Lakers and Magic where it should be.
June 1st, 2009 at 7:17 am
Rafa23 says:
ofc lebron isn’t classless in general. but its not the first time he did something like this.
he walked off last year against the celtics and left the court when there was still time on the clock against the hawks a few years ago.
i dont think this all makes him a bad person. but its not like he never did anything wrong before.
June 1st, 2009 at 7:41 am
rangerjohn says:
IMO the labron case is the EXACT reason the nba put an age limit/college requirement. if you look at all the high school to nba players out there, the vast majority are rather immature or have a streak like this. even howard and his techs. labron has been rather mature over the past few yrs but he has never had to learn how to lose like this so it is new. this is also part of the problem of guys like him, when nike offers you 90 million before you even play a game (and are what 18 yrs old).
June 1st, 2009 at 8:06 am
Soopa says:
Get off Lebron already. He is dissapointed they lost. Fuck all this ‘we are one big happy family’. No one knows what it feels like to have this kind of pressure of their shoulders and then fail. It would be fake as fuck for him to go around being happy for the other team, shaking hand etc.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:11 am
Soopa says:
I mean we dont know how we’d react under those circumstances. Sure i would’ve like if he’d shown D12 some love, but he didnt and i dont blame him at all. His teammates didnt show up and Lebron played one of the greastest series the NBA have ever seen and his bench cant produce 20ppg.
He was tired, emotinal and dissapointed. Would you want the eyes of the world on you in such a situation? I think not.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:17 am
rena the great says:
“Global icon”. “Chosen one”. “The King”. Get over yourself. “I’m a winner.” Of what? A true global icon is a sportsman who can handle defeat without giving petty excuses. The chosen one should be exemplary to the millions of kids wearing his jerseys. The king should man up and quit being a baby. Making excuses for somebody who claims all of these things is ridiculous. He put those words out there. Now live up to them. And enjoy your vacation.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:27 am
rangerjohn says:
i have to admit this whole “im a winner” BS is old. what has labron won exactly? some games? a gold medal where he was not “the man”? he hasnt won shit! hes a hell of a player sure, maybe the best but you are not a winner until you WIN!
June 1st, 2009 at 8:33 am
that's whats up says:
the only thing Jameer will torch at this point is his team’s chance of winning
sit your ass down and wait until next season
Lebron is just young – he don’t get it yet. He will.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:34 am
bsteezy3 says:
LOL @ Lebron and the Media hype/brainwashing… Anyway, maybe LeBron could’ve gotten away with the whole “walk off the court without acknowledging the other team” thing, and maybe the whole “im a winner” excuse would’ve worked back in 2005. Dude is an MVP now, so he doesn’t have any excuses. I know he was mad, but he has an entirely new accountability level now. Didn’t everyone think LeBron pretty much had it won? (Not us Orlando fans. We were kickin’ his ass all year)
June 1st, 2009 at 8:34 am
steve nasty says:
As much as I love the King…..grow up dude. Other players had the class to shake your hand after you beat them.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:34 am
Rafa23 says:
lebron doesn’t have to be fake and pretend he is happy for the other team. he can still be mad and congratulate the othr team. whats the problem?
he is the leader of his team and left them to explain the loss while he just didn’t want answer the questions.
dwight also said he was very surprised by lebrons actions.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:35 am
fallinup says:
Look. As for Lebron. All I wonder is if he would have had that attitude when the Olympics were around. What if USA would have gotten beat? Would he still display that shit attitude in defeat? I sure as hell would be be pissed if that happened.
I don’t wanna sound all “afternoon special”, but. This dude is supposed to be the best in the game. What type of example do you set for the kids out there looking up to you? All this hype surrounding him, the new coverage and the replays of his just walking away isn’t healthy…and doesn’t rep the league the way it should. Fuck competitive spirit….set a fucking example.
And secondly, it’s what? Day 2 now of what will Lebron do now…when we should be talking about the finals. We should be talking about the Magic Win. Not the lebron loss. But yet here we are.
Shame.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:39 am
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Lebron is a winner. What he is not is a champion. (At least not yet.)
June 1st, 2009 at 8:46 am
knoc says:
its a competition not a fight. he should be a proffesional and be sport enough to at least congratulate the opposing team before he goes to sulk.
hes a winner so that means he doesnt have to do any of that? bullshit.
so that means anyone who thinks theyre a winner should just be unsportsman-like everytime they lose. GTFOH
June 1st, 2009 at 8:47 am
fallinup says:
If he would have been pissed like this after the game 1 loss…instead of throwing the chalk around and dancing with his bench….maybe he’d have a better outcome.
June 1st, 2009 at 8:53 am
BERN BROGDEN aka BINO BROWN STR8 UP N DOWN says:
I had mad shows this weekend so I wasn’t able to post.
And if I was able to post, it would’ve been simply:
June 1st, 2009 at 9:00 am
the_don_mega (representin' the 3 stars and a sun) says:
question to QQ…
would it hurt the magic more if Jameer returns??? i mean i give props to the cat for a wonderful season but would his return mess the teams current chemistry???
June 1st, 2009 at 9:05 am
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
Any basebalI fans out there? I’m over this handshaking thing but I just wanted to add one more thing that Mike & Mike just pointed out. Basball is the only major sport in which players do not customarily shakehands or congratulate each other after a series. I guess judging by most of the comments here it’s a Great American Pastime to be classless and unsportsman like.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:28 am
dmitry of jersey says:
i hope to dear god that rumor of Boozer coming to Jersey is nonsense, unless there is a steep pay cut involved … or a sign-n-trade for VC.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:28 am
Danny says:
As soon as lebron said, “i sent an email later on to dwight” i lost all respect for him. LMAO why would he say that he wouldn’t congradulate someone who beat him but then sends it only in EMAIL. WHAT A PUSSY.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:33 am
fallinup says:
Dwight’s response.
Bron,
OMFG STFU FU!
BRB, practicing for the FINALS. LMAO.
June 1st, 2009 at 9:39 am
fallinup says:
I forgot..
XOXOXOXO
June 1st, 2009 at 9:56 am
that's whats up says:
I think Kobe is the one suing Shannon Brown
June 1st, 2009 at 11:17 am
jay says:
first off i was a little disappointed in lebron after saturday night. did not know til sunday though! that being said..you do not want to be a poor sport and look like isiah thomas he ducked mj and never lived that down for the rest of his career. would be interesting to see if bron would have done this if instead of howard it was shaq, kobe, wade or melo..i say no! disappointed but i am willing to give the pass. just do not want to see him look like zeke…that is all!
June 1st, 2009 at 11:17 am
dmozz says:
The funniest part of LBJ comments to me was “I’m a winner”. Besides the obvious Stewart Smalley comparisons (You’re a winner, ppl like you), what exactly has LeBron won? He can thank Kobe and Wade for his gold medal, how’d he do in 2007 without Kobe? Yeh…LeBron will be a winner someday, but he CERTAINLY isn’t a winner yet
June 1st, 2009 at 11:20 am
Drink the Haterade (KB24 Chip 09) says:
Even after LBJ is eliminated he’s still the talk of the spread…
“The NBA where LBJ is King even when he’s not winning”
June 1st, 2009 at 11:27 am
QQ says:
To cats asking about the Jameer situation:
I think it wouldn’t hurt us if we use him as a reliever for Skip for 3-5 minutes and see how he plays. I won’t say that we should start him as soon as he’s available. He has been ballin, but being out for that amount of time really changes your body’s reaction to fatigue and other aspects of actually playing.
@ Dime:
Hmmm.. ‘Lebron haters come out in full force…’
Damn. Some of us are not even haters. We just saw what we saw, and what we saw is classless in our opinion. Don’t paint us as the haters who just wants to bash Bron. That’s just fucking irresponsible. We call out Bron about that because IF ANY OTHER ATHLETE DOES THAT, THAT’S BEING CLASSLESS, SO BRON SHOULD NOT BE AN EXEMPTION, AND NOT BECAUSE WE HATE HIM AS A PERSON OR SOME OTHER BULLSHIT.
You guys… Are you defending him because you think he has a point? Or because you are mindless fanboys who will defend their favorite players just because you consider yourself a fan and you have the responsibility to defend them?
June 1st, 2009 at 11:32 am
Ian says:
I dont get all the hate lebron gets for this damn like someone mentioned isiah did it jordan also was an ass hell i wouldnt mind duncan giving kobe a big fuck u after last years wcf. Why do players need to act all happy for their opponents?
June 1st, 2009 at 11:33 am
Kevin says:
Some of you people are flaming idiots. So you’re not a “winner” until you win a championship? So basically Kobe was a “loser” in his MVP year? Charles Barkley and Pat Ewing and Karl Malone were career losers? Think about it: LeBron rarely lost a game in high school, he’s been in the playoffs almost every year as a pro, he got his team to the Finals one year. His team won 66 games or whatever it was this year. He’s got a gold medal. He’s won more and in big situations than 99 percent of the people on the planet. You losers haven’t won shit but some rec league titles (maybe) and you’re saying LeBron’s not a winner. When he says “I’m a winner,” he means he’s a winner by nature. It’s something you guys obviously wouldn’t understand.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:38 am
Kevin says:
And to all the people saying LeBron should have stuck around and shook hands, how many hands would he have to shake to satisfy you? It sounds like if he’d just gone up to Dwight Howard, you’d all be satisfied. So it’s counts as “classy” if you just shake hands with one dude on the other team? Or does he have to talk to Dwight and Pietrus? Or Dwight, Pietrus and Van Gundy? Or will LeBron only satisfy you if he talks to every player on the Magic? My point is, y’all are so quick to jump on LeBron and hate, you don’t even know what you’re hating for. Define the line between classy and classless…
June 1st, 2009 at 11:38 am
QQ says:
‘That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.’
‘That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.’
‘That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.’
‘That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.’
‘That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.’
Hey Dime. Read that. Just let it sink it. Got it? Ok…
EVEN THE MOST INTENSE UFC FIGHTERS WHO TALK SHIT ABOUT MURDERING EACH OTHER IN THE PREGAME INTERVIEWS, KICK THE SHIT OUT OF EACH OTHER IN THE ACTUAL FIGHT, WHEN THE RING BELLS, AFTER EVERYTHING IS SAID AND DONE, WILL STILL SHAKE EACH OTHER HANDS AND ACKNOWLEDGE EACH OTHER.
Lebron : ‘It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.’
And you still fucking defend this? Come fucking on.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:46 am
Kevin says:
@QQ — First off, where did Dime defend LeBron? It looks like all they did was describe the situation, point out what both sides were saying, and ask people how they felt. Why are you being so defensive and typing in all caps? Dude, your team is in the Finals and all you’ve been able to talk about on here the last two days is LeBron. Sounds like you’ve got a bad case of On The Nuts.
And answer me this question, Did Daniel Gibson stick around and shake hands with the Magic? Did Tarence Kinsey? Did Lorenzen Wright shake hands? You don’t even know, ’cause you don’t care. You only care about what LeBron did so you can have a reason to keep talking about him. Talk all the “classless” shit you want, but you know damn well you’d trade half your team for LeBron in a heartbeat.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:47 am
sure says:
The magic don’t need him. But could surely use him. I have Orlando 4 to 2. They again are the better team. They’ve gained valuable expereince and are like the Celtics in played games to get the Trophy. To many mismatches and inconsistency of L.A. Will allow for a new SUPERSTAR to be born. What goes around comes around. It would have been Van Gundy’s 2nd title. LOL. He’s well deserving and so is his team. Courtney Lee is a stud. Big ups to Rafer Alston NYC. Well deserved. His heart,passion and fun that he brings to the game compliments Howard and Co. very well. Redick is a big x factor. If Jameer comes back he’ll be fine. He’s not Cancerbury. LOL.
Pietrus vs. Kobe is going to be fun. D.Howard is going to foul out Gasol and Bynum then what. Mbenga to the rescue. Both L.A. and Cleveland depend on 1 player to much. All great teams have 3 legitmate players usually 2 all stars and great complimentary player. X factors win chips and games. Jameer welcome back. Him and skip together would be great.
June 1st, 2009 at 11:51 am
BERN BROGDEN aka BINO BROWN STR8 UP N DOWN says:
QQ – Are you crazy???
Everyone in the whole world knows LEBRON is classy!
Him heading straight to the locker room and evading the press “press”…that was all STAGED!
ALL YEAR, the CAVS had PRE-GAME ANTICS and POST-GAME ANTICS…Saturday’s sprint to the locker – CLASSINESS AT IT’S BEST.
Idiot.
LOL @ Jameer wanting to get in Derek Fisher’s AZZ – no homo.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:01 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
@Kevin, no ones pointing out kinsey or boobie because just like all the lebron dick riders said the other day LEBRON IS THE LEADER…THE STAR…THE POSSIBLE BETTER THAN MJ AND KOBE….so he is held on a higher level than the rest of the team… And the people that defend him R just showing in true homer force. I mean, you actually buy the whole “I don’t congradulate people who beat me” Um thats bullshit cuz when the spurs swept him, him and duncan were all hugging and chatting. And in the games that they lost during the series before game 6 when he thought he still had a chance, he was sayin good job and going to the press conference. Not to mention, if he had won, he’d have expected dwight and them to be respectful. You gotta be gracious in defeat and in loss. My theory is….he really fell into his own hype and was so pissed that his team lost to a “lower class” magic team that he didn’t respect and got pissed. Cuz like i said, he wasn’t doin that shit to the spurs. And for the guys stickin up for him and comparing it to the pistons…ya well the pistons were called classless too, hence them being the badboys. Lebrons a diva, not a badboy. When wade lost, he was saying good job to joe johnson…When joe johnson lost to lebron, he was congradulatin lebron. Lebron loses and he sends a fucking email? what, was he breaking up with a crazy ex? He doesn’t just get a pass just cuz hes lebron. Hell can you imagine if Iverson did that? If melo did that? If ron artest stormed out and didn’t show up for anything? the media would torch them saying how their sore loses and bad sports. Meanwhile lebron does it and its “o well he has every right to be angry” as good as lebron is, he shouldnt be above the sport just yet where he gets a pass for EVERYTHING he does or doesn’t do. Even if lebron was pissed, no one told him to stay another night and have lunch, but you at least can take 1 minute and show respect to the guys you just went against…the same way you wouldnt of expected them to do if you won. Straight childish
June 1st, 2009 at 12:02 pm
QQ says:
@ Kevin:
‘You only care about what LeBron did so you can have a reason to keep talking about him’
I just want to bash Bron?
Me?
After saying that I don’t buy the hype that they won because they just played inferior teams; that they earned their number 1 seed?
After saying that I think Lebron is doing everything but wipe his homecourt’s floor?
After saying you don’t score 47 points by accident, even if the refs will give you all calls (vs Atlanta)?
After saying that even if the refs are giving all the fucking calls to Bron, I can’t bash him because it aint his fault?
After bashing everyone in Cleveland, from Mo to Ben Wallace, but not Bron before this happened?
What if I just think that what he did is classless and not because I just want to bash him?
What if even if a scrub did that, that I’ll still think it is classless?
What if you realize that people praise Lebron if Cleveland wins, not Kinsey and the other scrubs you mention, so now they’ll take the fallout for doing that bullshit ‘no shakehands’, not their leader?
What if?
Damn.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:04 pm
the kid says:
“i am not a role model.” -Charles Barkley
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3zzhSIHrww
all i’m saying is, if i was in the nba with lebron’s skills, i’d act pretty much however i wante, and have everyone else DEAL if they had a problem. DEAL lebron haters.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:06 pm
QQ says:
66:
LOL at the joke. But the ‘Idiot’? That’s still part of the fucking joke?
Idiot.
LOL.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:09 pm
the kid says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nMzdAZ3TjCA
link correction.
the other one is the lil dez lebron/kobe puppet commercial. my bad.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
sure says:
@Kevin
I’ll take Wade & Kobe anyday. Love Lebron but it was a bitch move. When Isiah did it same thing. You don’t do that win or lose. You guys have been giving this guy to much praise since day 1. R.O.Y. he won unfairly. He’s considered better than Wade why? He beat out Arenas by traveling and help from the refs. He’s better than Kobe HOW? Better offensive skills than melo? I’ll have a few for you later
June 1st, 2009 at 12:10 pm
sure says:
@Kevin
I’ll take Wade & Kobe anyday. Love Lebron but it was a bitch move. When Isiah did it same thing. You don’t do that win or lose. You guys have been giving this guy to much praise since day 1. R.O.Y. he won unfairly. He’s considered better than Wade why? He beat out Arenas by traveling and help from the refs. He’s better than Kobe HOW? Better offensive skills than melo? I’ll have a few more for you later
June 1st, 2009 at 12:11 pm
sure says:
@Kevin
I’ll take Wade & Kobe anyday. Love Lebron but it was a bitch move. When Isiah did it same thing. You don’t do that win or lose. You guys have been giving this guy too much praise since day 1. R.O.Y. he won unfairly. He’s considered better than Wade why? He beat out Arenas by traveling and help from the refs. He’s better than Kobe HOW? Better offensive skills than melo? I’ll have a few more for you later
June 1st, 2009 at 12:17 pm
liukz says:
Lebron said: “It’s hard for me to congratulate somebody after you just lose to them. I’m a winner. It’s not being a poor sport or anything like that. If somebody beats you up, you’re not going to congratulate them. That doesn’t make sense to me. I’m a competitor. That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”
1. “I’m a winner” : actually he lost
2.”I’m a competitor. That’s what I do. It doesn’t make sense for me to go over and shake somebody’s hand.”
: even boxers congratulate the winner after the figth, SO PLEASE dont let him play with your minds, everybody knows he is a sore,classless loser PERIOD
Even cocky kobe gave the media his face after last years 39 loss to the Celtics…ITS CALLED BEING A GROWN UP MAN AND A PROFESSIONAL
June 1st, 2009 at 12:22 pm
Ian says:
Spliff
Baseball is the shit have u seen how teams celebrate u think anyone of them is going to stop to handshake the losing team? Or do you think that dudes in the dugout are going to come out to congratulate the others? Its not like basketball that everyone is on the court at the same time game over handshake right there in baseball one one dude is out there with the other team.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:23 pm
QQ says:
@ Kevin:
And if you don’t think Dime isn’t defending Lebron, you haven’t been here enough.
Dime is Bron’s bitch, everyone knows that.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:35 pm
QQ says:
And if you don’t think Dime IS defending Lebron, you haven’t been here enough.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:45 pm
SagJism says:
@61, Kobe has 3 rings idiot
June 1st, 2009 at 12:50 pm
SagJism says:
As long as no one on this site ever says anything about Isiah’s diss to MJ again. If you do, then you are FOS because LBJ is no different than Zeke. Zeke was the man up until Jordan surpassed him and he didnt get his chance to shine as the NBA poster child and now the same thing is going with the whiner but he is mad because he didnt think Orlando could beat them and he got his azz busted. They were riding that high after sweeping thru the first 2 rounds and thought Orlando would be a cake walk and thats why he got his azz handed to him on a platter. Grow up and be a man LBJ, everyone hates when they lose but it is your professional responsibility as a NBA player and MVP to be above the fray. LBJ = Over Rated = WWF. Zeke was wrong, LBJ is wrong and should have to go thru exactly what the bad boys had to go thru for how ever long because he does not respect the game acting like that. reggie Miller even shook hands after the phanthom foul in 91 so FU LBJ and your BS response.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:52 pm
SagJism says:
@64, just STFU, you have no idea WTF your talking about and you are just embarassing yourself.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
SagJism says:
@67 – That is the best and exactly right. Can you imagine if Kobe had lost and did that? This site would blow up from all the KB haters just jumping for joy. LBJ can get past this but he is/was a dick on that day.
June 1st, 2009 at 12:57 pm
QQ says:
LOL @ Kevin:
Hmmm….. poor dude. Now cats are all over you. haha.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:01 pm
SagJism says:
@Kevin, sorry dude, was just typing based on the statements, wasnt trying to diss you, just rea it and it comes off harsh and I apoloogize for that. But yLBJ just called on the phone and he said you still aint got no good point LOL. Just meesing bro, keep bringing good points
June 1st, 2009 at 1:06 pm
Spliff 2 My Lou says:
@ Ian
I’m not saying anything bad about baseball. Baseball was my first love and although I liked basketball and american football more, it was the sport I was best at. I was just pointing out that not all sports congratulate each other. I think we both agree (your post #60) that shaking hands is overrated and not indicative of what makes a person classy or sportsman like.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:07 pm
Diego says:
Great post @ 67 Bron42. Lots of good points. Yeah, Lebron looked in a pissy mood all of game 6–just couldn’t believe he could actually lose the series. (By the way, if he himself had had an MVP-like game (or an all star performer game) on Saturday, perhaps his team could have had a shot at a game 7. But of course Marv Albert could never criticize LeBron during game. Also, 2nd best defender in league? Huh? Didn’t see it this series.)
No excuses for LeBron, particularly after his totally classless response on Sunday.
Guy who should catch heat for series loss though is Mike Brown and his poor defensive assignments and schemes.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:12 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
@QQ, and we all kno kevin is gonna come back and look even more like a dumbass by calling everyone idiots as he snuggles up to a big lebron cardboard cut out in his bed but this whole argument is real simple..
1. If it was anyone else (melo,iverson,rasheed, tmac, kobe…hell even dwight) they would of gotten raped by this site and the media about bein selfish and poor sports etc..I mean this is right up there with iversons practice speech.
2. You say lebron is a winner? ya he won alot of games in high school beating up weak schools (which is why melo went undefeated against him in high school and spanked him every time they played). He has no rings, no dunk contest, got swept his only time in the finals, never went to college so didn’t win anything there, didn’t make the playoffs his what? first 3 years in the nba? So if were basing him being a winner on this seasons record and his high school record than 90% of the nba is a bunch of winners and could use that excuse.
3. The heat of the moment cuz ur angry excuse is played out…ok, maybe not shaking hands cuz your pissed at the time is understandable…but hes a grown as fuckin man…go back in the locker room…relax, do alil woo-saa and come back during the press conference after you’ve cooled down and say how you respect the magic for playing good and you’ll be back next year…thats all it would of taken. Instead he just bounces like a punk.
4. Its not all about lebron…how many people in the history of the NBA have lost, and not only lost, but lost in worst ways than this and still had enough class/respect to say good job to the other team? its nothing new. And lebron isn’t above it. And people keep sayin zeke meanwhile most people out of detroit…DIDNT LIKE ZEKE for reasons like this.
5. You all say lebrons a great leader? well the best leaders lead by example, dudes been in the nba 6 years and should be mature enough to kno how to handle this. He wasn’t to be a global icon and shit but you can’t just be that during the good times and be alil kid during the bad times. Teams have gotten swept and still respected the team that beat them. but of course, lebron doesn’t have to do that.
You’ve all been a witness…Stay classy cleveland.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:25 pm
Ian says:
spliff
you got it right man shaking hands is overrated btw u were in the same situation i was prob i love basketball more but i was ten times better playin baseball.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:27 pm
BERN BROGDEN aka BINO BROWN STR8 UP N DOWN says:
@70 – “idiot” is still part of the joke…
It’s all love on this end partna…I don’t get my panties in a bunch about rich and famous basketball players and thier penchant to be classy…or not.
As much as I want Kobe to get that monkey off of his back…I wouldn’t mind Orlando gettin’ at it — especially if Jameer sees some tick.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:39 pm
Dave says:
I’ve got no problem with Lebron not shaking hands, I’ve always thought it was ingenuous when the teams are all smiling and hugging after the series is over with…..
Please Boozer, go to NJ on a sign and trade, anything to get your lazy ass out of SLC. We’ll take Jason Williams or Keith Van Horn or whoever, just get Boozer outta here.
June 1st, 2009 at 1:48 pm
QQ says:
@ brogden:
haha. Its all good. GOO MAGIC!!!!!!
I came from a brutal band practice (yes I play music,haha) and yet I still can’t get over the fact that we’re going to the Finals.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:11 pm
Mike says:
Pistons got critizised for walkin off the court after the Bulls swept them so fuck LeBron. Its funny how all season all the commentatiors were saying how mature LeBron is and now he walks off like a spoiled little bitch. The irony.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:14 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
@dave, no ones saying u have to make a guy a tray of cookies after he beats you but you at least have to expect the “battle” I’ve lost and won games where even though the game was over, I still respected another player enough for going at me or simply showing heart enough where I had to give him credit after a game. I don’t care who you are, we have all lost at some point and you just gotta handle it better than that. All he had to do was the same thing everyone else has done..walk over, say good job and good luck, and then he coulda stormed out and had his tempertantrum..but to use the excuse that hes a winner is such a dick move…is he more of a winner than jordan? is he more of a winner than wade? than kobe? And like i said, even if you don’t shake hands, you still come to the press conference and say good job and then leave. Its all about respect because the same way kobe did it to melo(here comes the kobe comparison) and hugged him after the game, its not like melo wasn’t pissed he just lost..but he had respect for kobe. But a email a day later cuz your too much of a “winner” to say good job? thats sooooo 7th grade…whats next? a letter saying “dwight do you forgive me? circle yes or no?” That bein said, i’m done talkin about lebron (till someone makes a dumb comment about my comment lol)
I say magic take the lakers in 6 and gasol having the worst match up of his career. Hmm get bodied by dwight all night like mutumbo on shaq or be forced to chase rashard all over the 3 point line for 40 minutes…I say gortat headbutts kobe in game one like that soccer guy so they both get suspended and the magic breeze through lol…
p.s: adidas, where the hell is my dwight and hedo puppet…get on the ball guys.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:40 pm
weng santos says:
Damn, LeBron said all the wrong things there. He just made himself look worse with his comments.
He should use some of his money to hire a PR guy who can make better excuses for him on the fly.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:49 pm
sure says:
Lebron was a inbound defender away & a phantom foul on Hedo from being swept this year to a way better Orlando team. (Jameer injury and Alston getting acclaimated to team). Media & records don’t mean anything. It’s different come playoff time.
June 1st, 2009 at 2:57 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
@sure, actually records do matter, cuz the magic pretty much owned the cavs durin the regular season too..lets just hope orlando goin 2-0 against the lakers durin the regular season stands true too
June 1st, 2009 at 3:01 pm
Knock knock says:
Funniest thing is lebron said this series was so close it coulda been 4-2 cavs. Whatta “WINNER”
June 1st, 2009 at 3:09 pm
K Dizzle says:
@ Bron42
good first post, that’s a diff perspective. Maybe LeBron don’t respect Dwight. He gave love to Timmy back when, but Tim was like the godfather back when so Lebron had to pay homage. I figure he just started believin his own hype and was most likely shocked by losin to the Magic cuz NOBODY but QQ saw that “upset” comin. I ain’t gonna lie. Everybody i knew were sayin cavs in 5,6 games, but after game 3, it was a done deal for me. Cleveland just got matched up with the only team they couldn’t match up with. I’m listenin to espn radio and they talkin right now about Lebron not bein happy about dwight jackin that 3 at the end. They sayin how I feel about it. I don’t give a phuck if dude don’t wanna shake homeboy’s hand, that’s his right if he pissed that they got dealt with. What I don’t agree with is that Bron didn’t didn’t face up to the music from the media and just jumped on the bus. No excuses for that. This the last I’m gonna write about LeBron cuz he ain’t in the Finals and my Lakers are.
This gon be a lil reality check for the Jameer killed the Lakers during the regular season so if he comes back, Magic gonna roll….False.
First off, when Jameer was torchin us(and he was) there was NO JORDAN FARMAR and NO SHANNON BROWN, so congrats to Jameer for torchin DFish, but we ALL know Fish got some issues with quick pointguards. So fast forward to Thursday, we got Fish, Farmar and Brown all ready to lock up anybody at the point. I read one post where a dude got the Magic winnin easy cuz of matchups. That’s comedy. LA the only team that CAN match up with Orlando. And Kobe and Pietrus gonna be fun all right….for Kobe. Defendin Lebron’s 2 move arsenal is gonna seem like cake compared to the shit kobe gonna bring. He can taste it, we can taste it.
Lakers all day.
See y’all on Thursday
June 1st, 2009 at 3:28 pm
Kevin says:
Basically we have a lot of people passing judgement and saying “I would’ve done this” or “LeBron should’ve done this” about a situation that NONE OF YOU will ever be in and have no idea what it’s like to be in. Hindsight when you’re sitting on your couch is 20/20, but unless you’ve played in a conference finals series as the leader of the No. 1-seeded team, don’t pretend to know what was going through LeBron’s head. You don’t know how mad or frustrated he was after that loss, so don’t try to put yourself in his shoes.
Besides, since LeBron did eventually congratulate Dwight over e-mail or text or whatever, it should be a dead issue. It’s no less “classy” than in-person, because that’s how a lot of dudes communicate nowadays anyway, is on their Blackberrys or whatever. But because LeBron didn’t congratulate Dwight in a manner that you all consider timely and appropriate, now he’s a bad sport? So the congrats HAS to happen on the court, otherwise it doesn’t count? Maybe LeBron just wanted to get out of there and let Orlando have their moment.
And who gives a f*** what Joe Johnson or D-Wade or whoever does after a loss? LeBron is supposed to just do things because everybody else is doing it? Sounds like a follower mentality to me.
June 1st, 2009 at 3:39 pm
K Dizzle says:
Damn, Kev.
I never agree with you, but good post(#99)
June 1st, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
@kev, your a flat out clown kid. First off, where on the internet so you have no idea who your talkin to when your saying who has done and will never do what. I’ve been to a championship on every level outside of the nba, and have won overseas and played NBA. Doc has played nba guys too. So you don’t have to just lose in a nba conference finals to kno pressure or shit like that. You could be a star 8th grader on your CYO team and to the kid the pressure could be equal. So just cuz yourrrr a bum ass who never became anything, don’t try to throw other people in that area when you don’t even know who has done shit. Your sound like the ultimate lebron dick rider at the moment.
And a follower? so your right, better not follow what EVERY great player has done in a lose, and instead be a leader as a sore losing diva. We don’t have to know what is going through lebrons head. As much as people ride him..hes not the first to do shit. Its all about respect and bein a professional. This wasn’t some 16 year old losing a pick up game. I don’t give a fuck who you are, you respect your opponent and show some kinda of dignity. When obama won, didn’t mccain take like a hour to say how he gives obama credit? When kobe lost, didn’t he take time to answer questions after? MJ was probably had the toughest mentality in the nba but when he lost, he didn’t storm out the building and fly home like he was kanye west at an award show. As a professional, you take the good with the bad. If lebron won he would of been there talkin about how great he is and how he carried the team. You can’t be a “LEADER” on when your shits winning. You know how many guys in the nba/hall of fame wish they could of just bounced after they lost a big game? Get your fuckin head out your ass with that follower stuff. You don’t want him to be a follower? I don’t want him to act like a spoiled bitch.
And for sayin its cool cuz everyone emails now shows how hard your trying to kiss ass and I lost respect for K dizzle even agreein with you (although i’d still shake his hand). Is lebron afraid of confrontation? cuz thats pussy to me. Ya don’t take the heat in front of people but run home and send a email…cuz thats how people communicate now days. What, is he bill gates? is he sponsered by twitter? Like i said, even if he didn’t wanns shake hands and sent dwight a text from the locker room, theres still no excuse for ducking the press conference when just one game ago you and your team were all gassed up callin urself the best team in basketball when ur losing the series. They looovvveee the camera after they won game 2 and 5. Did dwight email lebron after those games? no he was a man and said good job, came to the press conference and accepted it. but nah, this dude emails his statements now…lebron…camera shy suddenly? maybe he shoulda had someone bring that stupid puppet to do the conference for him. O wait, i forgot, lebron is above the nba standard…hes a leader.
Another way of saying bad winner is sore loser bitches.
@K dizzle, QQ aint the only one who said magic was gonna win…its only a “upset” if you expected them to lose.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:10 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
p.s: Kev, heres a scenerio for ya since emailing is suddenly the same overall effect as face to face in your mind.
If you have a gf/wife which you probably don’t due to this obvious man crush u have on lebron why don’t you try this….break up with her. Just randomly leave her place one day and send her a email the next day saying “hey babe, sorry but its over”…..i mean texting is the same as face to face these days so you won’t look any less manly right?
June 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Ian says:
wow k dizzle
i liked that fisher part of your post hehehehehe
parker who? (before u blow up IM MESSIN but fisher sucks for real)
June 1st, 2009 at 4:20 pm
Kevin says:
Bron42, you said yourself that LeBron has shook the winners hand other times during his career. But since he didn’t do it ONCE, now he’s a diva and a sore loser? So that means that every time Isiah ever shook a guys hand is wiped out by the one time he didn’t shake Mike’s hand?
As for Kobe, nobody should be defending him. He’s the same dude who quit on his team DURING a playoff game (Suns) and did shit like not shoot the ball on purpose (Kings) to prove a point. How’s that for classless and being a spoiled diva? Oh, and didn’t Kobe tell some random dudes in a parking lot that the Lakers “ship [Bynum's] ass out”? That’s real classy. What a professional.
And like I asked before, exactly how many people would LeBron have to congratulate for you to be satisfied? Just Dwight? Dwight and Pietrus? Dwight, Pietrus and Courtney Lee? What if he’s congratulated Anthony Johnson but NOT Dwight, is that OK? You can’t even articulate exactly what you want LeBron to do.
Finally, I love how a dude who calls himself “Bron” online is calling me a LeBron dick rider. You’ve been to a championship on every level except the NBA? Really? As a fan? You gotta show me something to back that up. Like I said, you haven’t been in LeBron’s shoes, and your high school state title game doesn’t count in this argument.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Ian says:
i dont like gettin in the middle of this thing because what you guys are arguing is kinda pointless “You’ve been to a championship on every level except the NBA? Really? As a fan?” tooo funny not talk about it.
we know lebron is full of himself but hey so is kobe so was mike and so was almost every alltime great fuck even duncan that doesnt say shit has to go to bed thinking im the best pf ever the mailman can kiss my ass.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:32 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
@Kev, he shook duncans hand….and yes thats cuz he was expected to lose. This year lebron was picked to win and blew it…big difference..and hows the saying go..you can build a million bridges and suck one dick and you’ll always be known as a dick sucker…so ya…he can be a diva after pullin this once..And people were callin lebron a diva wayyyyy before this so get your fact right..this just proved all out cases. And hmm considering the way people seem to easily remember zeke not shakin jordans hand I would guess so or else it would be easily forgotten..then again, zeke could of emailed jordan later and wrote him a letter.
As for kobe, ya your 100% right, and i’m not defending him. Your actually proving my point, cuz kobe did allll that and got ripped for it. Hell the majority of that is why people say lebron is better than kobe..cuz lebrons a better team player. So to not rip lebron for actin like a chick would be hypocritical.I’m the last person who would stick up for kobe.
And the congraduating? see, your still ignoring the main argument…even IF he didn’t shake hands…whats his excuse for duckin the press conference? those things are about 10 minutes after the game so he had plenty of time to get dressed and cool down. He didn’t have the balls to field questions about how it feels to waste a 66 game mvp season. Remember, it was finals or bust.
Finally, I’ma assume your a noob cuz my resume has been posted on this site and validated. I was down doin slamball with one of the dime writers for fuck sake lol. And my name IS Bron ya flake lol. I kno your not new here so theres just no excuse for that. And feel free to google me. I’ve played lebron in high school, I got 2 state titles thank you very much, went D1, worked with nba teams, played overseas, got offered to do slamball, got offered to do a summer league with the nets etc…so before you tell me what I need to prove keep in mind I was watchin game 6 with VC while you were prolly at dennys orderin a value meal. So while i’m doin my shit, you can keep creatin your played on NBA live. I mean to think…you assume lebron is the first person to deal with pressure in his life so it gives him the right to be a dick…yet like i said mccain who was runnin for president was more of a gracious loser. Fuck outta here.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:36 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs Before Slamball says:
and ian fuck you too man lol you’ve heard my refferals enough over the years on this site…i’m just tired of people always giving lebron a bye with everything and this kid is really tryin to make excuses on why its ok for lebron to go in the corner and cry.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:37 pm
K Dizzle says:
@ Ian
I knew you’d like that lol
It’s just facts. i love Fish, but just cuz he ain’t the defender he used to be doesn’t mean we gon drag him to the field and put one in his head. He played good in game 5
@ Bron
How you lose respect for me cuz I agreed with a part of a dude’s post? lol For real? I thought dude had a good point with sayin until u been in another man’s shoes, you don’t know how you’d react. Like i said, i got no issue with bron not wantin to shake hands after Dwight jacked that 3 (an issue I ain’t seen nobody else touch – that did happen right? I feel like Cube in Friday. “Am I trippin, Smoke?” lol) that’s salt in the wounds to me. You whup my squad, you put up 40 and 14 in the clincher and damn near swept us and when i’m comin over to say congrats, you throw up a 3 in my face. I’d have socked dwight my damn self lol.
Like you said, nobody apart from you and Doc got major after high school and collegiate experience. I never got my heart ripped out in college so I can’t relate to Lebron so I don’t judge dude cuz I don’t know what he feelin.does it look bad? Hell yeah. Will it matter in 5 years? Hell naw.
I agree with somethin you said that nobody touchin on – Maybe Lebron just a sore loser. Dudes lettin the NBA hype machine make him look like his shit don’t stink. Shoot, before Colorado, Kobe was perfect too. Maybe Bron just a sore loser. What I’m trippin on is why is everybody still talkin about this?
One more thing: I thought Cleveland was gonna beat the shit outta Orlando cuz they wwre beastin everybody, while Orlando was strugglin with a beat-up Celts squad. I ain’t gonna lie lol
@ Kevin – I think bron’s his name, hence the screen name. That’s come up before
June 1st, 2009 at 4:45 pm
Ian says:
bron wait im not making fun i found that line to be funny thats it and i know bron is your name cuz i said the same thing to you along time ago about being a lebron fan. i know you and doc still play. i still think that lebron not shaking hands is not a big a deal hell even if kobe did it i wouldnt care.
k dizzle
just keep him on the bench hell no in fact you guys should play fish all 48 hehehe.
June 1st, 2009 at 4:53 pm
K Dizzle says:
@ Ian – Damn, you goin for Orlando too? lol U should be reppin the western conference. We gotta bring that Larry O’Brien back home to squash all that “the east is better” talk
@ Bron – you watchin game 6 with VC, you shoulda asked him if he woulda gone to Ohio to play with LBJ cuz Mo Williams showed he ain’t no damn all-star
June 1st, 2009 at 5:01 pm
Ian says:
oh wait k im ready for that
i cant handle the lakers or suns(this one will never happen so that just leaves the lakers) winning but in case orlando wins and the east is better talk begins we can always say they won because they had and easier path to the finals than the west team because the west had 8 great teams. good?
June 1st, 2009 at 8:16 pm
Jay says:
@Bron42
“you can build a million bridges and suck one dick and you’ll always be known as a dick sucker”
That is funny as hell, never heard that one before…ha ha!
June 1st, 2009 at 9:57 pm
Dean says:
Does anyone ever recall seeing Larry Bird or Magic losing in the PO’s and then giving congrats to other players?
HELL NO YOU DIDN’T! THEY HATED LOSING AND WOULD NOT STAND FOR IT! For plp to jump on LJ for that is BS. He should have gone to the press interview afterwards though. But no big deal really.
June 3rd, 2009 at 4:30 pm
SagJism says:
@104, the difference is Kobe stood there and took it like a MAN. He didnt come up with excuses or complain that the media is on him. He does what he doe sbut he still respects the game. LBJ did not respect the game in this instance and he should take the heat forit. Do the crime, do the time. He aint above any of it and he aint won shit so quit with this LBJ is the berst NBA player ever when he has nothing to show.