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NBA / Jul 14, 2009 / 3:28 pm

Allen Iverson’s last stand

Allen Iverson (photo. Gary Land)

Allen Iverson (photo. Gary Land)

I’m doing my best to avoid living in the past, and I still don’t understand why Allen Iverson is sifting through role-player money offers from Lottery teams who all want him to come off the bench. One of the best guards in the League (still) is floundering on the free agent market — a player who just one season ago averaged 26 points, seven assists and two steals a night on a playoff team — and he’s being treated like Jannero Pargo.

To answer the question posed in this morning’s Smack, I think A.I. is the victim of an undeserved bad reputation that festered over time and is finally catching up with him. For years, he’s been accused of being a ball-hog, of being a selfish jack-artist who can’t play within a team concept and stunts the development of young players.

However, that’s just not true. For almost his entire run in Philly, Iverson HAD to be a single-minded scorer, and even then, was still a playmaker (7-8 assists per game) by nature. Look at the guys he was asked to carry: Tim Thomas, Derrick Coleman, Jimmy “Too Jacked” Jackson, George Lynch, Theo Ratliff, Matt Geiger, Eric Snow, Tyrone Hill, Matt Harpring, Dikembe Mutombo, Keith Van Horn, Sam Dalembert, Unmotivated Glenn Robinson, Young Andre Iguodala, Gimpy Chris Webber … that’s the bulk of the starters who played alongside Iverson on the Sixers. When recapping A.I.’s career, everyone tends to forget he had to endure the Billy King GM era; it would be tough for any superstar to make it through that without being seen as a ball-hog.

The clip you will see below might be A.I.’s last great “Iversonian” performance, when he dropped 31 points on the Spurs in a national TV game last February. Watching it live, I didn’t see Iverson being any more “selfish” than Kobe, LeBron, Carmelo or Paul Pierce is when they’ve got their game going or their team needs a comeback.

Here’s how I described that game the next morning:

“Last night Iverson played his game, looking like the dude we all watched grow up at Georgetown and in Philly. He was launching everything in the fourth quarter of Pistons/Spurs, as Detroit’s offensive movement came to a complete stop every time Iverson (31 pts, 13-28 FG, 7 asts) got the ball. Aside from the occasional Rasheed Wallace pick, Deeeee-troit basketball consisted of A.I. trying to bust Bruce Bowen or Tony Parker‘s ankles while Rip Hamilton, Tayshaun Prince, Antonio McDyess and ‘Sheed stood around and watched … Two things, though: Iverson had to do it, and it was working. You can’t knock A.I. too much for dominating the ball down the stretch, because no one else on his team was helping him out. ‘Sheed went 4-for-17, and Prince, Rip and Rodney Stuckey combined to go 6-for-23. And because A.I. was getting buckets, the Pistons made a fourth-quarter comeback and almost won the game.”

Iverson is better than this. He’s better than the offers he’s getting, better than the roles he’s being asked to accept. Mario Chalmers is good, but what did he do last season that warrants him being handed a starting spot over Iverson? I love Eric Gordon, but he can be a sixth man for a year and it won’t set him back at all. And Mike Conley in Memphis? Come on.

That said, there are scenarios in which A.I. would be best coming off the bench in a Manu Ginobili/Ben Gordon-type role. So I do think he needs to accept some reality and not be totally averse to the idea. But I also forgive A.I. if he’s feeling disrespected right now, because he’s got a good reason.

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  • Michorizo

    He’s getting dogged cuz he bitches for playing time. I am not saying he does or doesn’t deserve but youdon’t pout or sit out if you don’t get your way.

  • Kobeef

    @AB and AI

    Iverson taking over a game is now a bad thing. The guy is older, slower, lower to the ground. Younger, faster, bigger defenders can shut him down. Accept it and move on to the next phase of your collective lives…6th man.

  • Michorizo

    Also, he disrespects the game when he acts like this …it is a little payback.

  • Kevin

    Everybody gets on AI for (allegedly) quitting on the Pistons last year, but I still think Joe Dumars was driving that truck. Say what you want about AI over his career, but no one could argue that he hasn’t been a serious competitor. Now all of a sudden he’s a guy who quits on his team? I’m not buying it.

  • Michorizo

    He kinda did quit on them …didn’t he?

  • http://333333 ONLY THE STRONG survive

    IVERSON IS STILL THE BEST IN NBA

  • karizmatic

    Allen Iverson is getting frozen out because in the minds of a lot of GM’s in the league he’s a team cancer. To them, the Detroit to Denver trade proved it. Billups went to Denver and Denver is the second best team in the league. AI goes to Detroit and they lose in the first round and Iverson doesn’t even play the last couple weeks of the season or whatever it is. Whether deserved or not, the players didn’t even want to play with him and as a GM you also have to look at the fact that AI’s injuries caught up with him last season too.

    Furthermore, he’s a 6’0 shooting guard who has never taken much interest in playing the point position and at 34 is not showing much ability to adapt. If he would accept the role of traditional point guard he might be more attractive to GM’s around the league. In addition there is just not that much money to go around. He could potentially get the MLE, but all the teams that might give him that would be looking for him to put them in contention for a ring, so I guess the question becomes if we pick up AI is he going to put us in a position to win a championship? The answer to that is not really, so all those factors are keeping him out of the market.

    In conclusion I have to say I love AI, he’s from my hometown, and I’m a big fan, I think what is being done to him is unfair and bad for the league, but looking at a 34 year old 6’0 volume scorer who doesn’t want to come off the bench, what can you really do? If he was at least willing to come off the bench he’d be more attractive to some teams. I will say this though to me Allen Iverson is probably the greatest “combo” guard ever to play the game. All these guys from Ben Gordon, to Marbury, to Chauncey Billups (early in his career), to Nate Robinson want to be him. He’s truly in a class by himself, no one will probably ever be able to do what he has done in his career at his size.

    Also you forgot he played with Larry Hughes and Jerry Stackhouse as well. Just to add to the list of people he had to carry.

  • LakeShow84

    Probably cuz you’ll get the EFFICIENT super talented scoring Iverson only 30-40% of the time.. No one wants that cuz if you win 30-40% of your games you screwed.. unless u in the East..

    He had squad on Denver and they wouldve upset San Antonio had he showed up after game 1.. not saying one series defines you but playing alongside Melo with good bigs like Camby, Nene and Kmart only makes YOU better.. he didnt seem to get better though and his game stayed the same.. Dont forget he had 2 seasons to get past the 1st round in the West.. failed both times..

    I definetely feel though that Detroits crybabies (Hamilton & Sheed) put it all on his shoulders and didnt even bother to be any kind of support..

    Sometimes you get thrown to the Wolves..

    And aye yo AB.. he being treated like Steph.. Pargo already signed with a team lol

  • http://www.realgm.com Rare Air

    AI and Detroit was just a bad marriage from the get – I dont blame AI for being pissed about his lack of pt and now being treated like an also-ran. On the other side of that though it has been to fit him into a role situation that is different from what he has always been. Being the primary option is what he has known for so long. Its sad in a lot of ways that his career is ending like this. I wanted to see him be someplace that he could get a ring, transform his game gracefully, and make those around him better. Maybe it wont happen but I sure as hell dont want to see him on a crap team like the clips or griz. For all he has given to the game he deserves better than that.

  • heavy d

    I wouldn’t say undeserved. He has come across as unwilling to change his game or perspective at all. It isn’t that teams are reading between the lines, AI’s public statements are enough to establish the distruption potential. If you are a playoff team it is just too big of a risk that signing him will blow up in your face. If you are a team with up and coming players the risk is big that signing him will disrupt their development.

  • karizmatic

    @michorizo

    Detroit quit on AI basically, not the other way around. AI saw the writing on the wall and took himself out of the equation, what would you do if you got traded to a team that just didn’t want to play, because of things that are out of your control?

  • http://333333 SLAVEN

    ERIC GORDON FUCK THIS MAN.ANSVER DESERVES BIGEST.ALLEN IVERSONS CARER. 27.3PPG. 6 AST. 3 REB. 2.2 STL……,,,,,…..

  • karizmatic

    @ Heavy D

    Signing AI is a bigger risk than Boston signing Steph last season or trying out Darius Miles? It’s a bigger risk than any team takes when signing Ron Artest or Golden State took with Stephen Jackson? The league is full of players that are “disruptions” what makes AI that much different?

  • Oscarisalakerfan

    @AB
    Yeah he’s better then Chalmers, Conley , Idk bout gordon anymore because Gordon plays some kind of defense……
    all these players are willing to accept their roles on the team unlike Iverson

  • Ashlov

    Iverson is the new Sprewell.

  • karizmatic

    @ Ashlov,

    I wouldn’t say that, At least Sprewell got a decent contract before no team gave him an offer.

  • GayforRudy

    I enjoy it when people blindly accept stats…

    1996 – 7.46 Assists/Gm
    1997 – 6.17
    1998 – 4.65
    1999 – 4.69
    2000 – 4.58 (MVP & Finals)
    2001 – 5.52
    2002 – 5.54
    2003 – 6.75

    Where are the 7-8 per game?

  • DIEGO

    I THINK THAT THE PEOPLE SAYS THAT HE IS OLD, JUST BECAUSE HE HAS 34 YEARS OLD, HE LOOKS LIKE 22 AND ITS ONE OF THE QUICKEST GUARDS IN THE NBA, JUST LOOK HOW TONY PARKER COULDNT FOLLOW HIM.

  • GayforRudy

    That’s an average of 5.67 … but yeah “at least 7 or 8″ sounds way better.

  • Big Island

    It’s not even payback or anything like that. Teams would put up with his stuff, deserved or not, because he could win games the way he played. Now he can’t really do what he used to but it seems like he still wants to be treated the same way he always has been and still play the same style. If he came in, played hard, kept his nose clean, he could get a deal after a year. It’s too much drama to deal with for a team so I can understand it. That being said, he is a hell of a player. Phoenix should pick him up when Nash leaves.

  • http://444444 MOSTAR

    IVERSON IS STILL GREAT, HE IS STRUGLED WITH PISTONS, BEACOSE HI IS DOING SOMEWONE ELSE JAB, WHEN THE ANSVER WAS IN THE PISTONS IVERSON NOT BE IVERSON HES NOT BE A SCORER HE IS NOT RUN OF TIM.IVERSON IS STILL GREATE HE IS THE BEST SCORER EVER.HE IS WON 4 SCORING TITLE

  • Michorizo

    @ karizmatic…what would I do? I would play my ass off. You have to play no matter what team you go to. Some things are out of your control and you have to control what you can and AI could have played hard no matter the tick he was receiving…he would have been better off today if he did just that…play his ass off like the TRUE AI we grew to love!

  • Baby Huey

    The problem with AI is that he has to be the top dog. He simply can’t accept that he can’t “one man show” his way to a title. He had a chance to be a super sparkplug 6th man last year and refused.

    Remeber the old adage that practice makes perfect? Maybe AI the career 42% shooter and 31% 3pt shooter would have more teams after him if he ever cared about practice. Just a thought…

  • http://5555 IVERSON FAN

    IVERSON IS THE BEST

  • http://www.niketalk.yuku.com/forums/8 NTstateOFmind

    @12, “Gordon plays some kind of defense……”
    …when did that happen?

  • http://5555 CJ

    IVERSON 27.3PPG 6 AST. 3 REB. 2.2 STL HE IS THE BEST PG EVER 4 SCORING TITLE HA HA

  • Lacy

    I just was having a conversation with a friend , and we both are confused on why teams want him to come off the bench? you can’t judge his game by his Image ..HE PLAYS HARD ENOUGH TO START ON ANY TEAM IN THE NBA..70% OF THE TEAMS CONSISTS OF BUMS ANYWAY ..

  • Oscarisalakerfan

    @25
    Eric Gordon attempts to play defense unlike Iverson who only play the passing lanes….
    I’m not saying he’s a lockdown defender(although I think he can be with more experience) I’m just saying he plays some defense….

  • Lacy

    The man been a scorer his whole career ..How could you change his style of play now? I don’t get it …He is not a bench type player , he’s a gritty, hard nose player who plays through injuries..Bench players are people who lack skills and AI doesn’t fit in that category ..AI KEEP ON SHOPPING AROUND..

  • http://45666 STEPHONE

    ALLEN IVERSON PRISE,3 MVP,1 PICK 96 ROOKI 96 10.ALL SRAR GAME 1 3 TIM 4 SCORING TITLE. ANSVER IS MAYBE NOW LITLE STRUGLED BUT HE IS STILL GREATE

  • Kevin

    Playing the passing lanes is still considered defense.

  • http://www.niketalk.yuku.com/forums/8 NTstateOFmind

    @26, hah, i gotcha, that makes more sense now
    …for a minute i thought you were talking about Ben Gordon

  • http://www.niketalk.yuku.com/forums/8 NTstateOFmind

    ^ my bad, originally referencing post #14

  • dk

    @12 Keep the math restricted to your Po.ish forums… yes, those are the numberes but dont leave out the 35% idiot. Lake defined why tgats important best. Dnt bring the naivity to these forums u fools

  • ricky

    @25
    Gordon does play defense, I thought he was the Clippers best perimeter defender last season

  • karizmatic

    @ Michorizo

    AI did play his ass off, if you compare his numbers before and after the trade they didn’t drop. His team quit on him, we can speculate whether his back injury was enough to keep him out or not. But knowing AI it is doubtful that he just sat out to be spiteful.

  • High Release

    Iverson was found out. Sure he can still score, but the NBA is now about facilitating point guards. He is a relic of the late 90’s hot-shot scoring guards, who followed Michael Jordan’s NBA. Aside from the The Finals season, his teams always hovered around .500. And since winning and keeping a budget are in vogue these days, who would really want him? It’s probably too late for him to adapt, even if he was willing. Hopefully Brandon Jennings will learn from this.

  • Promoman

    Iverson is still an All-Star level player & a starter, but most of the bad press that Iverson got is deserved. We all know about the practice press conference & his tendency to skip practices. What’s it say about him when the only time he got an MVP & to the Finals was when a role player (Eric Snow) ran the offense? He’s not even smart enough to keep a system that benefits him. Iverson’s been used to getting a pass his whole career and now that it’s been revoked, he’s in culture-shock. The only difference between Iverson & Marbury is that Iverson was able to get a pass and Marbury couldn’t. Some of the players that he had to “carry”: Stackhouse, Mutombo, Speedy Claxton, Glenn Robinson, either went to multiple All-Star games, the finals, or even won a title. Every one of those guys and the ones mentioned in the article are/were at least quality role players. Ball-hogging point guards basically won’t win you anything. The Clippers are trying to develop a team and Iverson’s a bad idea. He may behave for a awhile, but it’ll be back to business as usual: Ball-hogging & losng while doing it.

  • Mase

    Iverson is still a great scorer and play-maker, but his deficiencies have been exposed over the years which is why contenders aren’t going for him anymore. I think those 76er teams of ’00-01 where they made it to the finals were teams that were COMPLETELY constructed around him. Basically 4 guys to play defense and rebound the ball, and Iverson to carry the offense. That was the only formula that worked with him. He needs to dominate the ball, which is fine, but put him with other talented people on the floor, and its a failure. The Denver/Detroit experiments proved that. Too small to play man-up defense against bigger players (99% of the league), which offsets his scoring. Couple that with the not so great role model image, the disrespecting of the game (“Practice?” and coming off the bench behind another all-star), and contending teams are not going to buy into what he’s about anymore. He’s basically now available for lottery teams to help fill their seats. You have to wonder how he would be viewed if that 76er team wasn’t constructed around him and they never became that successful… would we even be having this discussion or would he be just another Stephen Jackson/Starbury player?

  • doc

    Dudes funny when they just dismiss those Sixers as bums.U either didnt watch the games or so blinded by AI u refuse to accept he a fucking jack artist.Who cares about 7 FORCED passes converted during 48 minutes.And that WASNT UNTIL DENVER.As soon as we got rid of him,we improved same way Denver did.Thats just facts.So any conspiracy is from AI fans themselves.Any dude with commen sense can see why he having problems.We keep hearing he JUST AVERAGE 26 a YEAR AND A HALF AGO.What the fuck is that.When he helping a chip contender wake me up.Better yet just write a article because I would be a sleeping ass waiting for that day.AB u need to get out of 2001.All u taLK about is Vince,T Mac and AI.That era passed its new and better ballers now wake up its 2009.

  • jzsmoove

    Nobody even has to look to the Philly glory days, Iverson just stinks playing team ball, eg. Denver and Detroit stints. Done, game over, fin, wrong answer.

  • !!!??!?!?!!

    I agree 100%, AI is getting disrespected and deserves more than this! AI please go to a potential contender, not a bottom rung team!!!

  • !!!??!?!?!!

    And Denver was NOT better without AI!!! They just faced Lakers in finals not Rd 1!!!!!!!! Same results with or without him!!!!!!!! What so hard to understand? And Detroit was a mess before AI and after. He was the scapegoat as he changed his game and tried to fit in but not used properly.

  • ONLY TEH STRONG SURVIVE

    OMIGOD U MUS BE A DUMMM@$$$ TO THINK IF DA ANSWER OIS WASHED UP HE JUST GOT A BAD BREAK BCUZ HE GOT SEND TO DTORIT AND EXPECT HIM TO GO OF TEH BENCH FOR RIP HAMILTON ARE YOU KIDDING ME? LOL!! BUT HES A HALL OF FAMER!!!!11 COME ON GET REAL HE NEVER WAS A BALLHOG JUST HE HAD TO SHOOT ALOT BCAUSE HIS TEAMS SUCEKD BUT AGAIN THATS NOT HIS FALT IVERSON IS STILL THE BEST IN THE LAEGUE LAST SEASON IS IN THE PAST JUST LOOK AT THAT VIDEO OF HIM WITH PHILLY THATS THE REAL AI FOR RREALZ LOL

  • Pardeep

    That 31 point game is how A.I. plays if he got to play like that for any team they would win. Thats why I want Charlotte. But Rip and Tay could not face the fact that he is one of the greatest and they are not and they thought they had the right to get their own points and do their own thing and did not want to watch a 34 year old guard carry them. Iverson slowed down? I see him school the “fastest player” in the league about 5 times there just by blowing by him and Parker is like 8 years younger. I hope Iverson proves people wrong next season and I know he has the abilities to do so.

  • http://n/a Heaven is a Playground

    Forget all them haters A.I. you’re still one of the best in the game today. The Answer should go to a contender and get a ring to shut all them fu*king haters up. I am going to miss A.I. more than Shaq when they retire because A.I. changed the culture of the game and how society views NBA players.

    “just because you put a guy in a tuxedo, it doesn’t mean he’s a good guy.” (Quoted by the best little big man the game has ever seen).

  • Prof. TX

    Just a few career highlights:
    1993 First adult conviction, not sure of the charge
    1997 Reckless Driving, Possession of Narcotics, Posession of a Concealed Firearm
    2002 Spousal Abuse, twice
    2004 Indecent Exposure, Destruction of Private Property
    2005 Attempted Theft, Assault

    Poor guy has to ride the bench and play for only a few million? I guess sometimes karma just comes back to slap you around a little.

  • http://33456 KEVIN

    IVERSON. WHEN HE WAS IN PHILY HE WAS THE BEST SCORER IN THE LEGUE,HE CROSES M.J, HE LEDER SIXERS TO THE NBA FINALS 2001 WITH TERIBLE TIMAND DIKEMBE AGE 34.HE WAS THAT YEAR MVP AND PLAYING TOF.HE PLAYING EVRY GAME WHEN HE WAS A LAST AND STILL PLAY.ANSVER IS A LEGEND HE HAS BEST CROSOVER EVER,HE IS A LITLE GUY HE IS A TRUE WARIOR.HE WAS PLAYING 40 AND MORE MINUTS EVERY NIGHT.IVERSON IS GHETO WARIOR.HE IS WHAT IS,HE COME TO THE LEGUE LIKE A LITLE GUY HOU EMBERESIS BIG GUYS.ALLEN IVERSON NEVER GIVE UP. HE IS PRISES WITH 27.3PPG. 6.5. AST. 3REB. 2.2 STL.3 TIME MVP 96 ROOKE OF THE YEAR HE HEAD 4 SCORING TITLE…….., GUY HU PLAYING WITH HEARTS

  • Lee

    Tony Parker has been the better player than AI for the past 4/5 years.

    I think I could get pretty good numbers if it were ok to jack up shots to the tune of 40% !!!

  • Lee

    Oh, and there’s a reason no contender has rushed to sign him up … they generally have good GMS !!

  • king

    AI is better than any guard LA clips have and TV talking heads are saying “of course hell have to come off the bench” w/o blinking an eye. WTF is going on

  • Serge

    (GayforRudy) you idiot keep going why did you stop at 03? He never averaged 8, but he did average 7 assists for a few years you idiot go check.

  • http://n/a Heaven is a Playground

    Prof. TX you’re funny for pointing out A.I.’s beef with the law. We all know he had beef with the law since he was a jr in high school. Thank god Georgetown gave him a chance to play for them because we would have not known or seen one of the grestest players to ever play the game.

    Anyway,now enlighten me by mentioning other nba players criminal records.

  • Serge

    But this article hits it on the head. I agree 100% with everything you said. AI can still get it done with the best. He should start on a title team let along a bad team. I don’t get why he would even consider Memphis. Same for the Clippers outside of them being in LA. Miami would be a nice fit. But I don’t get why the real contenders are not going after him. He can start with the Cavs instead of West. He can start with Dwight and the Magic’s. He could start with the Spurs. There are 3 contenders he could start on. With the Raptors and Bosh + Turk they could be the 4th seat easy in the East. They even got a very nice PG in Calderon. But yea I hope AI does not go to Memphis. And even the Clippers unless he can start there. With the Bobcats he can atleast make the playoffs and start. And with Miami he could start with Wade, and take them to the 4th seat. Then they can get to the 2nd round of the playoffs and put up a good fight atleast again the top 3 teams in the East.

  • G

    I smell you Austin. AI is getting dogged for sure. Im not even gonna get into all the different arguments. He can still ball, still fill it up, and yea needs the ball in his hands to score. It is what it is. But all the haters need to be careful cuz AI will still hand your team 30 but Im sure then we’ll hear about how many shots he took right? Always something.

  • http://55555 IVERSON FAN

    WHAT FUCK IS THIS.IVERSON IS MUCH BETTER THEN SOME ERIC GORDON OR MIKE CONLY.IN PHILY IVERSON IS WON 3 MVP 9 ALL STARS GAME HE HAD 4 SCORNG TITLE FOR GOD SAYS,IN SIXERS HE WAS THE BEST PLAYER IN NBA.WHEN HE WAS IN A DENVER HE PLAY HIGLLYSTS WITH MELO <<<<,REMEMBER<< 26. PPG. 7 AST.,,,,. BOT LAST YEAR IN PISTONS<<<-ANSVER IS JUST LOSE MINUTS AND RITAM.IN PISTONS HE IS NOT BE A SCORER.<<< HE WAS BE A SOMEWONE ELSE

  • http://456783 IVERSON FAN

    YO YO YO THAT IS TRUE IVERSON FAN<<AND I RESPECT YOU FOR THAT NIGA,ALLEN IVERSON IS THE BEST

  • http://2223 SLAVENKNE

    IF ANSVER COME TO MIAMI WITH WADE,MIAMI MAYBE BEAT THE LA LAKERS<<, SUCKS

  • Nisha

    I don’t the understand why these teams are all asking Iverson to come off the bench. Ive read a lot of articles saying that Iverson is being asked to come off the bench because he is not a good player anymore?? Sure the man is 34 years old, he is not going to be the player he was at 25, but I still think AI is a great player!! We can not label his career as over based on last season, the whole Detroit thing was just not the right situation! I do believe Iverson can still shut some of the players in the league down! Give him a chance! I can’t wait to see what team he chooses, so he can prove to the world, he is still AI!!!!

  • Clutch

    Thats what happens when every team you are on gets better when you leave and your a selfish player.

    Antics in detroit, famouse practice fiasco.

    And about the assist he is still a black hole on offense he only passes the ball when it will get him an assist. He doesn’t make the pass that leads to the assist pass. Bad Shots and low shooting percentage.

    I wouldn’t want him on my team either

  • http://2223 ONLY THE STRONG

    I WOLD LIKE TO SE IVERSON IN MIAMI OR CHARLOTE, BUT CLLIPERS,WITH BARON AND CAMBY AGAN ANO FUCKING WAY.COMPORASING IVERSON<< VS KOBE. KOBE WON 3 TITLLES <<<WITH SHAQ.BEACOSE KOBE IS LUCKY MOTHER FUCKER<<<.IF WAS KOBE WITH NO SHAQ<<< TO HELP KOBE WAS MOTHING.KOBE WON 3 NBA TITLES WITH SHAQ.BOT IVERSON<< WAS IN 2001 <<SEASON MAKE 55 WIN<<<< WITH TERIBLE TIM SND WITH MOTOMBO AGE OF 35.IVERSON MAKE THE PLAYOFFS.IVERSON VS VC<<, GAME 7 IVERSON OVER 40 POINTS<<<<, AND BEAT RAPTORS AND VC.WHEN HE ANSVER AND SIXERS COMING TO NBA FINALS,<<< AGAniest LAKERS.IVERSON VS KOBE GAME 1 ANSVER 48 POINTS,,<<KOBE I DONT NOW 20,25. AND BEAT LA IN OWERTIME<<<,,.WHEN HE ANSVER WAS<< IN PHILY I THINK<<ALLEN IVERSON WHOSE BETER THEN<<<VS KOBE.

  • illwill

    iverson was bustin parkers ass in that video.hes still got it detriot didnt let him play his style of basketball.and too say billups made denver that much better isnt true.yes they went further in the playoffs but when ai was there they had a 50 win season and denver won what 4 more games.its just that the west was weaker this year hence making denver make it that far.the spurs sucked and to have a houston team with a no name guard dominating come on.besides the lakers the west wasnt as great as past years!

  • CC

    THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR WRITING THIS. ppl want to come on here and write their little bullshit comments about AI isnt this and and AI sucks and this and that, the man is better than so many ppl in this league its ridiculous but yet ppl just wanna hate ALL THE TIME.Detroit was just a bad situation but if you look at denver his stats were great. To see him getting crap offers like this is unbelieveble, especially when ppl like Marcin Gortat are getting better contracts! He has a bad rep and detroit certainly didnt help it but ppl need to get over that and look at his talent n what hes accomplished

  • http://myspace.com/40sand9s loc

    I truky believe it was Rip and Dumars fucking up the Detroit thing.

    it really only seems right that AI should be back in Philly for the next three years before he retires. I really don’t see how at such low pay Iverson can’t make damned near any team better.

    Stick him in Miami, Philly, Memphis, Clippers, Charlotte, how do any of those teams get worse for it?

  • sh!tfaced

    forgot he also carried toni kukoc for a while in philly.

    rockets should give AI a shot. you’d rather have him than an oft injured t-mac, at a cheaper price too. even at 34, he has better wheels than mcgrady…

  • eolufemi

    There are only about 5 or 6 teams that have two guards better than him on their teams. Most of this disrespect is just payback for years of what the mainstream media considered bad behavior on his part. Before AI literally drug a horrible team to contention year after year. Now he can’t do that anymore by himself. He actually needs his teammates as seen in Detroit. Unfortunately everybody in the NBA has an agenda, and it isnt necessarily winning. So with teammates like rip and sheed dogging it game after game because they didn’t like the trade situation, AI just became an easy target for criticism, despite playing better than more than half the guards in the league even with his so called “bad season”. Those are the breaks. But he’s a warrior and I like how he keeping quiet, biding his time for when he finally does sign with a team and shows just how much he has left in the tank. If I was him, I would only agree to come off the bench if the other guards beat him out for the position. No player should ever accept being relegated to the bench as a matter of politics and media group think. You put the best players on the floor, play them the majority minutes and you contend for a championship. The reason why these bottom feeder teams never win is because they are always “developing talent”, talent that always LEAVES for the better teams that understand the value of veteran experience and developed skill. AI to the clippers would automatically put them in play-off contention and if the coach doesn’t fck it up I can seem them actually getting out of the first round with than line-up.

  • terri

    AI does deserve better, once someone gets a label like the ball hog or team cancer crap (which isn’t true anyway), it’s hard to shake but he deserves the chance to play for a good team

  • kevin

    First off anyone that has anything bad to say about iverson needs to stop. Everyone is complaining about him not accepting a 6th man role. R u serious? To back up who? Rip is useless without billups. Stuckey is a fuckin scrub who fucked up on every play down the stretch. The whole piston fell apart after billups left. Its not ai’s fault that he didn’t fit that team. He is still the same iverson as before and will continue to be untill he retires. I bet all u fake ass haters just say what u hear on espn. I bet all u guys were sayin that iverson would never slow down before last season too. just wait till he comes back strong this year…

  • matt

    playing him at the 2 is a good idea because baron can defend the 2. gordon is a good player but iverson is one of the best of all time.

  • Lee

    To get 26 points on 40% shooting isn’t great, a lot of players in the NBA could do that.

  • jimmythesaint

    YES!
    … most passion and reason i’ve read in these pages in longtime … Get the Georgetown Gangsta BACK to The Top Table. We all deserve another chance at seeing his Hall Of Fame end to his career
    look at & enjoy the link to 2001 AllStar in D.C
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9r_Ig9_jLm8

  • http://2223 ONLY THE STRONG

    CLIPPERS IS NOT TIM FOR IVERSON<<, BEACOSE HE IS NOT ANY MORE THE BEST IN NBA.IVERSON IS STILL GREAT SCORER IF COME TO MIAMI WITH WADE I THINK,<<<MIAMI 2,3 IN EAST AND MAKE MAYB

  • http://2223 ONLY THE STRONG

    CLIPPERS IS NOT TIM FOR IVERSON BEACOSE HE IS STILL GREAT SCORER,<<< BUT HE IS NOT ANY MORE THE BEST IN NBA.IF ANSVER COME TO MIAMI,<<< MIAMI WILL BE 2,3 IN EAST,<< AND MAYBE MAKE THE CONFERENCE FINALS. HO KNOWS MAYBE IVERSON AND WADE BEAT THE LA LAKERS

  • http://333 SLAVENKNE

    I AGREE WITH MAT,ALLEN IVERSON IS 1 OF THE BEST OF ALL TIME.IVERSON IS BETTER THEN KOBE<<< ANSVERS CARER STATS<<,27.3PPG 6 AST. 2.2 STL. 3REB…..,,, IVERSON IS THE BEST PG EVER

  • http://333 SLAVENKNE

    what a fuck is going on.Iverson is still better thann baron davis,steve nash, t mac<<……….-,but clippers want iverson come to bench.this is sick man

  • http://333 CJ

    iverson carer stats. 27.2ppg. 6.3 ast. 2.2 stll 3reb.<and clipers want from him to come to bench what a fuck is going on

  • http://333 CSLAVEN

    iverson 4 time scoring champ

  • mc76ers

    bout time someone wrote a truthful article about ai. nobody in the nba has 2 guards better then him. instead of treating him like he deserves they treat a guy who saved the nba after jordon like crap. what is it with these bad teams they all wanna develop people. what ever happened about trying to win now. mike conley and eric gordon wouldnt be in the nba if not for iverson. and instead of embracing the fact he can do both guard spots they say he can only be a 2. that is killing him cause gm’s cant think out the box. he cant handle the ball. some teams that won dont even have a real pt. no superstar pt won in over 20 years. the pigionholed him. ai is better then 97 percent of the nba now and 3 years from now he will be. 2 years ago he was better then wade and now he stink all of a sudden. it was his play in detroit and not the pistons stubborn vets that made him lose. nobody could have done anything in that situation. after they lost ai the now said stuckey isnt a real pt. they wanna trade rip. they got rid of sheed and fired the coach. all nice moves cause there the reasons why ai is in the situation. all 4 of them people. but ai got all the blame. still nobody said nothing to defend ai. its either one or the other and judging by the pistons moves there trying to make u see that it wasnt ai. playing wit 3 2 guards. not making him dribble at all when he was the only guy with any nba ball handling in his career. sticking him the wing on offense and not giving him the ball and then blaming him when u didnt make him play at 30 percent of his talent is nuts. they tried everything besides making him the main guy. they didnt even change one play for him. they had 6 coaches not in 10 years and ran the same offense in detroit. thats rips fault. rip cant play any other way besides if there are 10 screens ran for him. where does that leave a 6ft ft scorer? its rips fault more then anyone. he couldnt deal w/o billups. i think they were fuking them 2. so if u dont let a guy play the best way he knows how 2 then u cant blame him cause u never seen the real him at all. simply as that. and i live in philly and they draw about 13000 a game . why on earth are they not looking at ai? if it s a buisness everyone should want him and basketball wise for there teams in the 09 and 10 season he is there best option by far. that goes for 15 teams. instead of robbing your fans and saying your looking to the future and throwing away a year get allen iverson and give the fans what they deserve. some excitment for there money and a better shot at winning more games then if they made eric gordon or conley or lou williams or chris duhon start. thats the guys we are talking about. kidd got a 3 year deal and he made dallas worse then it was in 10 years. and they played it off saying dirk was better. was he better then his mvp year? who did he make better? they said terry when he has been around a 18 pt scorer for years. dampier they said. did he get better really? howard got alot worse. he was a allstar before kdd. yet kidd gets all this good press when he get u 9 and 9. and he cant score that 9 unless he hits 2 3’s where nobody plays him at all. look at when kidd shoots how open he is. that dont help the team that people dont defend him at all. nash cant win. if denver for so much better and the west was as good as ever how did houston win a series and take la to 7. thats proof the west was so much worse then just a year before. the spurs were hurt. portland was young. dallas and the suns and the hornets and utah were worse. la was about the same. so did denver get that much better? no they didnt. all of these things make ai look bad. when they arent bad things at all. they all happened for a reason and ai wasnt that reason.
    i wont watch the nba w/o ai. ill never go to a sixer game if ai isnt in the building and it looks like 3000 people a night for 3 years feel the same way.

  • http://22666 SLAVENKNE

    yo,yo,yo,iverson is the best scorer ever.4 time scoring champ<<lol

  • http://44456 SLAVENKNE

    ANSVER STILL MAKE 20. 25 POINTS EVERY NIGHT.SE YOU IN MOSTAR

  • Ekstor

    Ok… ok… whoever it is writing in ALL CAPS masquerading as several different posters… WE GET IT!!! You love AI!! Stop acting like a bunch of different people and stick to one alias. Thank you!

    Individually Iverson is a great player and a tremendous warrior, but he hasn’t shown himself able to make a team better. With exception for one magical Finals season in which he was surrounded by the perfect role players for him (i.e. didn’t need the ball to be effective), his resume doesn’t look good despite having had the opportunity to play with many talented players. Regardless of the real reason why he rode the bench at the end of last season, his comments about retiring if he has to come off the bench and the infamous “practice” speech in his youth don’t make him look like someone willing to meld his talents in whatever way possible to win.

  • gary

    gay for rudy or whatever your nik was why insert wrong stats ?? all assist after 2003 are 7.9 at best 6.2 at worst ana majority are in the 7’s per game and a carreer assist average of over 6. pls compaire it with jordan/kobe/james carrere assists per game.and dont forget he is a shooting guard pls check teh assist per game of all the top shhoting guards in the game and you will see they dont even come close to iverson’s. people dont like him because he wonnt be a lap dog to the gm’s and nba.all the sports writers are against the hip hop immage so they are against iverson,check out eric snows interview where he says iverson is a hard practicer and one of the most unselfish players he has seen.iverson is disliked because he wont sell out his character.how come no one mentions all the good things he does in the community.wake up people stop being ignorant

  • d3tayl

    Allen Iverson is the still the freak of nature he was when he first came in the league. He still can play a full 48 minutes (if needed), he hasn’t lost a step, and he still leaves it all out there on the court. Critics have been looking for Iverson to break down years ago, because a 34 year old guard who’s 6’0 and a 180 pounds isn’t supposed to do half the things that he’s doing. As good as Chauncy is, he wasn’t the sole reason Denver improved from last season. There addition of Dahntey Jones, Chris Andersen, Nene’ returning healthy, and most importantly keeping Anthony Carter out of the starting lineup is why Denver looked better. The previous season with Iverson they won 50 games, so they were getting better with him. Allen Iverson is still in MY top 10 players in the NBA. As he’s gotten older he FG% has improved. His last season in Denver he shot better than Kobe from the field, and was 3rd in scoring with 7 ast and 2 stls. You’re not gonna find any better than that.

  • west philly

    First thing i’m from philly an i still don’t know why the sixers have not offered a contract to A.i. i could start on there team an even take his STAR seat back from the fake A.i. But there is 1 thing i don’t like bout my fav.playa in tha L He jus makes the wrong moves some times like the whole PRACTICE thing why did he have to miss practice on thanksgiving again??? “u make $21mil you can EAT THANKSGIVING DINNER EVERYDAY!” But for all u A.I haters jus go an hate @post17 dude get ur stats right 7-8assits sounds bout right I’ve been watching 4years now he lost a lil step an still takes bad shots but he’s still better then 90% of the nba an 97% of the guards. I just hope he gets to prove all you haters wrong again!

  • west philly

    And How did every team get better when he left Philly still has not had a winning record since he left,Denver won 4 more games Wow! and the Pistons were headed for self-distruction with out Mr.Big-shot. SIXERS BRING A.I. BACK HOME PLEASE!

  • http://dinca.org G. Blaha

    Allen Iverson destroyed Detroit Pistons-he has street steez. However, street cred doesn’t win championships (he tried and failed during his prime in Philly and will never come close again unless he accepts his role as a backup on a contender team). Sports writers and street fans need to get wit and face reality…

  • Hakim

    When having a discussion on Iverson, one has to examine the Media’s role in shaping the ideas and attitudes of people in popular culture. The media can lift up an individual to look like a saint or tear down a person to look like a menace to society.
    It’s been done for decades to make women look subservient to men, to make all black men that don’t dress in a suit and tie look threatning, and to make politician look like saviors.
    To the casual observer, Iverson is what the media has painted him as( A bad boy who refuses to practice, pass, and play a reserve role). To basketball purist, who see through the manipulation of the media, he’s a baller that alot of the young guards in NBA and college patterned their game after. Iverson didn’t develop the ability to cross over defenders and carry teams on his back by a lack of practice. Don’t let a five-second soundbite, which has been played reapeatedly fool you! Iverson is one of the greatest to play the game. The year in Detroit was an aberration! The coach sucked and didn’t know how to utilize Iverson. Iverson is a scorer. You don’t make a scorer, change his game. You ask role players to adjust their game. No one asked Jordan to stop scoring. They surrounded him with role players, and let him do his thing.
    Philly fans know best, that Iverson was a SG for most of his tenure in Philly, not a PG. His role is to penetrate and score, force teams to double team, which in turn opens up shots for others. The man can still play as a starter. The fact that he is 6’0″ or 34 is not a good arguement. He has a passion for winning, that few(Garnett, Lebron) can match in the NBA.
    He should be a starter with a coaching system that knows how to utilize his skills (Philly, Charlotte, Houston, or Miami).
    NBA teams saying Iverson, must agree to come off the bench is politically motivated. He doesn’t fit the clean cut image the NBA wants to project. So the first opportunity they get to cast him away, they go into action. It’s been done with other players(Craig Hodges- one of the best 3pt. shooters ever; Mahmoud-Abdul-Raouf, one of best shooting guards ever(was characterized as non-patriotic for not putting his hand on his chest during the presenting of the colors, and basketball great and former Clipper general maganager Elgin Baylor. After inquiring about a raise after the Clippers went to the second round of the playoffs in 2006 Baylor was not given a response. Mike Dunleavy, however was rewarded a 20 million dollar contract. If you remember past drafts, it was always Elgin Baylor that made the selections. He was responsible for the Clippers success in 2006.
    All the guys I mentioned that were forced out!
    If given the opportunity, Iverson will give us a season to remember!

  • http://www.ontarget-graphics.com Sucak Free

    WOW… I just want to say thank you to all the haters out there for giving my home team the opportunity of a life time. I have heard some really ridiculous stuff out there so I just can help but address it. If AI is not a winner than neither is Kobe, Ray Allen, Ron Artest, or any other two guard in the league that has never won a ring on there own merit. Kobe gets a semi pass for this year because they did win, but he should send Timmie and manu a thank you card for lightining his load. Realisticly the only decent team he faced in the playoffs was Houston and Orlando.

    Ray Allen showed how much of a winner he was by never making it father then the second round except for hanging on the the end of KG’s coat tail while he was drastically out played by ever two gaurd he faced in the playoffs.

    As far as AI being a winner he made it to 1 NBA Finals, two eastern conference Championships, and 3 second round appearances carrying his own team on his shoulders if that’s not winning then I don’t know what it is.

    If you really seriously believe that last year makes him washed up and Denver all of a sudden got better than you are not smarter than a fith grader. I beilieve they won two more regular season games, and last to the same team in the playoffs, while adding Donte Jones, Chris Anderson and Nene to the roster. No to mention they did not have to face the real San, and Amare missed the second half of the season. WOW, I hope that Denver is not content with that, because if so they will be watching the playoffs from at home this year.

    Bottom line I want to see all your comments once the season unfolds this year, I can picture it saying: AI is only dominant again because he is playing for LB in a system that he is familiar with, or AI had an attitude adjustment and now he is such a better fit. But I hope you all just eat your words and keep your moth shut.

  • http://nba aurelio garcia

    hello. I’m a NBA fan since iverson entered the nba… i love him because eventhough he is undersized still like a big guy when he is attacking the rim…. he so quick and can break your anke… hehehehehehehe he is the best… he is the no.1 here in the Philippines…. we love and support a.i….