NBA / Jul 15, 2009 / 3:05 pm
Who has the best handle?
Dwyane Wade (photo. Chad Griffith)
With all the talk surrounding Allen Iverson, Dwyane Wade, Nate Robinson and Lamar Odom this week, naturally it started an argument amongst the Dime crew this morning:
Who has the best handle in the League?
At first we were talking strictly active players as of right now, but after a while people started bringing in retired guys, then looking at guys in their prime, then splitting it by position. So we’re opening it up to anyone: active, retired, in their prime … Who has the best handle for a big man, the best for a point guard, and the best handle for a two-guard/wing?
July 15th, 2009 at 3:07 pm
Willis says:
Mike Conley
July 15th, 2009 at 3:09 pm
wiz says:
Ima go recent big man odom, gaurd mike conely or nash……
July 15th, 2009 at 3:10 pm
Nisizzle says:
best handles:
PG: i gotta say deron williams, i think hes a betta cross over artist den CP3 is, but CP3 is a magician wid da ball still
SG: Wade, no comment necessary
Big man: toss up b/w lamar odom and stephen jackson
July 15th, 2009 at 3:12 pm
Lakers Nation says:
so do you guys count putting your hand under the ball as handles? if not, then I’ll always give it to Iverson and a real close tie is Nash - who else can dribble around and around until he finds the perfect pass . . . all amongst the trees in the key!
July 15th, 2009 at 3:13 pm
Lakers Nation says:
btw . . .can we collaborate and do a east-coast/west-coast re-make of the Nike “Dribble-Stomp” commercials? those were classic!
July 15th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Detroit Dave says:
PG- CP3
SG- Jamal Crawford
SF- Odom
July 15th, 2009 at 3:14 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
PG; Deron
SG; Wade
SF; Bron
PF; sadly Varejo
C; ehh… Shaq (Crossovas)
July 15th, 2009 at 3:15 pm
Detroit Dave says:
If only Steve Francis was still around…..
July 15th, 2009 at 3:16 pm
Fresh says:
T-mac HAD the best handles for a big man, no question. But its Lamar now.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
The Real Deal says:
Boom dizzle and white choclate
July 15th, 2009 at 3:17 pm
Amar says:
I think that D-Will has a better handle than Cp3 — not saying that those guys are #1 and #2 in the L, just pointing out that Deron’s probably looks better (if it isn’t already better on its’ own) because of his size, and perception that he’s not that fast/quick. (but if you look at the NBA draft combine results, he was just as fast/quick as chris paul)
As for a new category . . . worst handle, but with a startlingly high number of broken ankles left in his wake: kirilenko
July 15th, 2009 at 3:18 pm
Amar says:
Pistol Pete had a pretty crazy handle, for retired guys. (so did so many others though, c.neal, et al.)
July 15th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Detroit Dave says:
FLIP MURRAY!
July 15th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
Amar says:
best handle i’ve seen from a PF/C has been bargnani though. lots of people don’t know that he’s actually a solid starter in the L because he wasn’t an all-star as a rookie . . . but kid is good.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:19 pm
control says:
PG: Nash
Bigman: Maybe Hedo…hard to say.
Love Handles: Glenn Davis
Honorable mention: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh2fn01cngg
July 15th, 2009 at 3:20 pm
c-viz says:
cp3 or jamal crawford
July 15th, 2009 at 3:21 pm
Dukesman2000 says:
Shaq - during All-Star games
July 15th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
MJAX says:
Mike Conley is cool wit the handles.. But I think it’s got to be Boom Dizzle and “Skip to My Lou”…
July 15th, 2009 at 3:23 pm
NTstateOFmind says:
best handles in movies: Kyle Watson
July 15th, 2009 at 3:24 pm
Shamgod11 says:
I know this guy isnt in the league but derrick Ravio from Gonzaga had the smoothest and most rediculous handle ever, it was like the ball was on a string and the kid looked like he just graduated from 8th grade. considering he is overseas im going with lamar odom as the big man for sure, when that guy brings the ball up the floor your just amazed at his ability to handle the rock. As for the guard im gunna have to go with AI in his prime, Iverson had that rare combination of smooth/quick handle and a crossover that makes you look foolish (just ask Jordan) even now he could be in the debate for having the best handle in the league.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
kaka says:
Allen Iverson.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:27 pm
bobby stew says:
Earl the Pearl and Pistol Pete - retired
CP3- current PG
Pau Gasol- post
Grnat Hill used to have the best handles as a wing player
July 15th, 2009 at 3:29 pm
bobby stew says:
Pistol Pete- Greatest Handle of All Time
July 15th, 2009 at 3:31 pm
LaMont says:
guards - Rod Strickland and though he was in the league for not very long, David Rivers
July 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
Michorizo says:
When Bibby was with the Kings his handles were solid…didn’t watch him with the Grizzlies too much but he did put up 10 assists with a shitty team then.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:36 pm
LaMont says:
forgot Jamal Tinsley - best present day hands down…Brooklyn…Salute!!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 3:39 pm
Billy Sunday says:
Sidney Deane had cold handles…
July 15th, 2009 at 3:40 pm
QQ says:
PG: CP3
SG: Wade
SF: Lebron
PF: Odom/Dirk
C: Amare
July 15th, 2009 at 3:44 pm
nick says:
pg: baron
sg: jamal crawford
sf: melo?
pf: odom/dirk
c: bargnani
July 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
noypi says:
Pete Maravich has the greates handles of all times. He revolutionize the aspect of entertainment in basketball.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
David_Brandon says:
man, this is a good one…lets see
1- cp3/deron. i’d give the edge to chris tho. just cause he keeps it on a string. so does deron!, but chris is ridiculous.
2- kobe/dwade. dwade cause he splits the double off the pick/screen really well. but he does have a lotta turnovers. kobe’s just as smooth with his, but w/ a lot less TO’s.
3. lebron/tmac. both are solid at finding other guys while creating off the dribble. but bron does it a little more often and with a little less effort. and he makes it look oh so nice. but i think tracy can break somebody down w/ a series of dribbles more than lebron. bron dribbles a few times and pulls up and drives right usually, whereas tracy may try to lull someone first.
4. kg/cwebb. kg’s just an anomaly due to his versitility, but chris had a great handle on the ball for a big man. and when we had him in sac, he regularly displayed the flash that made it fun to watch. who doesnt like a power forward boucing a behind the back pass to a cutting player on the baseline w/o looking… come on, man.
5. shaq. even tho i dont like dude, he’ll break out a yearly crossover at the ASG. and actually get by somebody. dont forget last years give an go through the legs that led to the dunk either lol.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:47 pm
bkfrench says:
UTEP 2 step
July 15th, 2009 at 3:50 pm
bobby stew says:
Jason Williams with the Kings was nasty. I loved his bowling ball passes!
July 15th, 2009 at 3:54 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
Guard-AI,Nash, Flash
Bigs-LO, Hedo, Does Durant count? Gasol, Sheed
July 15th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
JK says:
If you don’t have Allen Iverson despite if you like him or not you are dumb. He has the best handles of all time.
Pg-AI(or Alston)
Sg-Jamal Crawford
Sf-LeBron
Pf-Odom
C-Biendrins
July 15th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
MoxWestCoastRep says:
All-time
Its Timmy H.
Killa Krossova
July 15th, 2009 at 3:55 pm
Yoooo says:
Dwayne Wade is NOT the best ballhandler, you’ve got to be kidding me. he does the white boy carry cross over… NOBODY who does that move has the best handle.
Rod Strickland had a HELL of a handle for sure. So did Isaih. But as far as PG’s go it HAS to be Tim Hardaway all time…
Kobe is my favorite ball player but he DAMN sure aint the best ball handler as far as creativity goes. Jamal Crawford is better than him in that aspect of the game.
The best big man ball handler, I mean L.O. gets the job done, But something wont let me say him
July 15th, 2009 at 3:56 pm
Chicagorilla says:
Jamal Crawford overall 2day
Best all time- Isiah Thomas
Best 2dayPg- Nate Robinson Best Ever-Isiah
Worst 2dayPG today and ever- Eddie House
Best 2daySG- Crawford (Wade&Kobe ties for #2)Best Ever- Earl Monroe
Worst 2day SG- Jerry Stackhouse Worst Ever- Steve Kerr
Best 2day SF- Lamar Odom Ever-Odom
Worst 2day SF - Shane Battier Ever-Eric Piakowski
Best 2day PF- Chris Bosh Ever- Young Derrick Coleman
Best 2day Center- Pau Gasol Best ever Center - Hakeem the Dream
July 15th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
BiG ShoT BoB says:
PG Nash
SG Kobe
SF Lebron
PF KG
C Bill Russell - who you think ignited all those fast breaks?
July 15th, 2009 at 3:57 pm
bkfrench says:
Anthony Mason
July 15th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
Alvin says:
ahah. control, nice one.
July 15th, 2009 at 3:58 pm
everytime says:
Has to be Calderon -> best assist to turnover ratio in the league last year… and by a wide margin.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:04 pm
Xavier says:
Some names come to mind, position dependant of course:
Nash
Pistol
Pau
Rubio
CP3
Conley
Young Shaq
July 15th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
Oscarisalakerfan says:
deron
jamal crawford
melo
kg
dj mbenga
July 15th, 2009 at 4:06 pm
Bron42 aka Had Springs before Slamball says:
@Chris From LB CALI, lebrons handles are weak, he shouldnt evenbe mentioned in this convo..what next, your gonna call him the best shooter too?
July 15th, 2009 at 4:07 pm
tl says:
Rod Strickland is one of the best players to never play in a all star game
July 15th, 2009 at 4:13 pm
Tee says:
J-Will was just nasty. Come back damnit
July 15th, 2009 at 4:15 pm
remix says:
I agree with Oscarisalakerfan for the center position. dj mbenga has exceptional handles especially when he is rewarded with a banana
July 15th, 2009 at 4:17 pm
Kermit the Washington says:
Tony Parker’s in there somewhere.
But DWade breaks more ankles per game than anyone in history. His defender is always on skates.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Deron Williams
Wade (even though its a WHOLE lot of palm lol)
Gasol - HOW YOU GUYS SLEEPIN ON 7FT WHO CAN RUN THE BREAK, GO BETWEEN HIS LEGS AND DROP A NO LOOK ON MONEY?!
July 15th, 2009 at 4:21 pm
ALONZO says:
KENNY ANDERSON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!BY FAR OR ISIAIH THOMAS
July 15th, 2009 at 4:22 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Actually i take back Wade and throw in Jamal Crawford..
Boy got SICK moves..
July 15th, 2009 at 4:25 pm
SJ says:
For big men, I think Duncan’s got some good handle.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:28 pm
sh!tfaced says:
steve nash
July 15th, 2009 at 4:30 pm
Jon Q says:
Steve Francis had a better handle than cp3 and deron..watch out for Jamal Crawfords handle too. LO takes it for the big men though.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:33 pm
Hanleezy says:
Derrick Rose, like duh dude
July 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
LaMont says:
don’t think any of today’s gus can be best ever simply because carrying is not called which helsp in breaking ankles and defenses are not allowed to be as aggressive as they once were
July 15th, 2009 at 4:35 pm
karizmatic says:
At point guard I’d have to say CP3 has a sick handle. Then depending on if you count AI as a shooting guard or point guard I’d have to go with him or Pete Maravich (Shot out to Bob Cousy!!!) I’d also give Pippen props as a wing. Grant Hill also had some sick handles when he was young. Lamar Odom does have some great handles as a big man. Also Toni Kukoc.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
ferrel says:
Look the current guy in the league with the best handles are
PG=allen iverson
SG=dwyane wade
SF=lebron james
PF=lamar odom
C=paul gasol
My all time list is
PG=Iverson(not many guys can crossover jordan nuff said and everyone the tyron lue crossover,legendary crossover)
SG=jordan(he broke guys ankles in clutch situations)
SF=T-mac( has crossed over almost everyone in the leaugue dont forget jordan)
PF=lamar odom(let forwards know its ok to play like a guards
C= Kevin garnett or pau gasol u pick
July 15th, 2009 at 4:36 pm
JR1 says:
1 - CP3 - Deron Williams is nice but CP3 is filthy nasty with the rock. Talkin about handles here now. Parker can drive by people with pure speed I don’t see him doin much for crossin people up. Honorable mention - AI, Conley, my JONNY FLYNN when he gets on the court.
2 - Dwade - Look Kobe can shoot lights out, how much crossin up do you really see him doing though?
3 - Bron - No one even close.
4 - KG - I really can’t believe someone said Varejao. Wtf? Close second would be Odom.
5 - Amare, Yao, Candace Parker? - Bigs is tough they never put the ball on the floor.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:37 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
@Bron42 aka Had Springs before Slamball says: I was saying “for his position” ..
like I would say Bron is RIGHT NOW the Best Small Forward of All time. not the Best player of all time (yet)
July 15th, 2009 at 4:41 pm
QQ says:
QQ be da BOSS yall!
July 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
sure says:
Timmy,Zeke,K.A.,White Chocolate/Pistol,Stevie F,A.I crossover not handle, BDiddys rock em, Skip you may have missed the Rucker and I.S. 8. Shamgod should put his drills tape on You Tube. Will Bynum & Brandon Jennings if you only knew w/ a 40. Honarable Mention Daryll”Showtime”Hill/ Andre Barrett/ Corey Fisher Price/
July 15th, 2009 at 4:44 pm
karizmatic says:
@ Chris
Lebron is better all time than Larry Bird at this point in his career? Really?
July 15th, 2009 at 4:46 pm
sure says:
Jerome”Pooh”Allen & Alvin Williams. Erik Barkley’s inside change. Wade’s D.C. pull back. Ben gordon’s set ups for his jumpers. Michael Ray Richardson.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:47 pm
ferrel says:
Allen iverson,Rafer alston aka Skip to My Lou
Iverson never even played in a street ball atmosphere and is considered a cross over legend, how many guys can cross over jordan,besides iverson,ummm no one,the crosss over on tyronn lue where after that he stepped over him,we know Lue remembers that,already a scoring legend,ranks all time in steals,maybe the quickest guy to ever lace up a pair of sneakers, A living legend.
Rafer alston,world class handles,frustates guys, and can emberrase any one on the court(boy i wish jordan was still playing)
July 15th, 2009 at 4:48 pm
Kobeef says:
@Contol
“love handles: Glen Davis” - LOL
I’m gonna have to disagree - Eddy “Big Mac” Curry dropped 30 pounds and his love handles are still the greatest. Grestest ever love handles go to Oliver Miller - that dude was FAT.
Best Handles Ever
PG - Iverson - rookie year - The kid shook MJ.
SG - MJ - is this even a debate? GOAT!
SF - it is hard to remember but T-Mac was pretty amazing when he was in Orlando. It is kind of depressing to think about how good T-mac would have been without the injuries.
PF - Chris Webber had the best handles ever for a PF.
C - Hakeem had so many moves it was sick.
July 15th, 2009 at 4:51 pm
ahopper says:
C- Bargnani
Pf- Anthony Randolph
Sf- turkoglu
Sg- Joe Johnson
Pg- Steve Nash
July 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
@ karizmatic
I would say that if Paul Pierce wins another “RING” he is better then LARRY LEGEND.
The Truth already is on a path to destroying every record in Celtic History
July 15th, 2009 at 4:53 pm
BERN BROGDEN aka BINO BROWN STR8 UP N DOWN says:
big man —}} LO
a point guard —}} Rondo
a two-guard/wing —} Salmons
July 15th, 2009 at 4:57 pm
runngun22 says:
POINT GUARD
Deron Williams
HM: Steve Nash (if he had more athleticism, he might have topped everyone), Mike Conley (youtube him using two balls), and Jason Kidd (I’ve seen him do two ball drills before I saw anyone doing them, and he was ridiculous with them).
OFF GUARD
Dwyane Wade
HM: Jamal Crawford (that shake and bake move is nasty) and Allen Iverson (even if no team wants him).
It’s tough with bigger guys since they don’t have the ball in their hands as much, but Carmelo and Lamar Odom look pretty good handling the ball.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:04 pm
nowwhatyo says:
anthony randolph has decent handles for a big
July 15th, 2009 at 5:07 pm
bobby stew says:
@66
I agree about your comment about A.I. being the fastest to lace em up. I know he moves faster than any other guy across my television screen
July 15th, 2009 at 5:08 pm
Krayzie says:
PG - Baron Davis, J-Will, Penny in his prime
SG/SF - Dwade, LeBron, JR Smith
PF/C - Tim Thomas in his prime, Odom right now.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:10 pm
joesmoove says:
You all are writing in guys like jamal crawford or mike conley…give me a break…those guys have nice crossovers…not great handles…a great handle is one that breaks ankles…that splits defenses…that allows the player to get off a shot when guarded closely mostly by a bigger player of more than one player…that said…forget position…the best handle in the league belongs to DWade…it aint even close!…and if you do not agree…ask AK47 who has the best handle….DWade did a BEHIND THE BACK CROSSOVER…AND BROKE HIS AK47′S ANKLES….never before has anyone crossover behind the back…..and that is not even getting into him having a east to west crossover….and a north to south crossover…noone else has a north/south crossover..as oj mayo and rudy gay about the north to south moves…they both fell on each other trying to stop the best player in the league…yes…DWade!
July 15th, 2009 at 5:18 pm
flavur says:
PG: Deron Williams(CP3 close second)
SG: Dwyane Wade(Jamal Crawford close second)
SF: Lamar Odom(soon to be Anthony Randolph)
PF: Blake Griffin
C: Shaq- Laker era
BUT!!! Allen Iverson is the Godfather to all of them
July 15th, 2009 at 5:22 pm
JHUSTLE says:
PG - steve nash.
i really have it as a 3way tie btwn nash, deron williams, and cp3 but i gotta give it to nash bcuz he can dribble to anyspot on the floor and always be able to set up the open man perfectly
SG/WING - kobe
is it even a question? the only one’s close are wade and iverson but nobody can dribble to their spots and get there shot off like kobe
big man - odom
lamar odom is the best dribbling big man ever in my opinion. of course magic had the passing edge over any big man but as far as breaking down the defender one on one with the dribble, thats lamar
July 15th, 2009 at 5:29 pm
Bojangles says:
G Shammgod
July 15th, 2009 at 5:30 pm
hb in az says:
Have to agree w/ 36 and 63. Check any you tube clips on Tim Hardaway, still one of the nastiest crossovers and dribbling machines you will see. Back in the day, has to go to the Pistol. Best present day white boy, has to be as mentioned previously, J will. Especiaaly during his Sacto days.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:33 pm
karizmatic says:
@ Chris I still think Pierce needs 2 more rings to be better than Larry Legend, but what does that have to do with Lebron being better than him right now?
July 15th, 2009 at 5:37 pm
karizmatic says:
I’m shouting out Magic, just because I feel his name needs to be in this thread. Hardaway was a beast too and so was Hakeem.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:46 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
@karizmatic
HAHAHA
Fa SHO! for the 3 spot, even if He doesnt win a ring (which he will when he goes to NYC) Numbers wise. He is the best 3 of all Time.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:56 pm
Pais says:
God Shamgod, Rod Strickland & Tim Hardaway. Oh yeah honorable mention to Cat Mobley.
July 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
Vinny says:
skip to my lou-hands down best pt handle(pistol best of all time)
Wade best 2 guard handle(the pearl best of all time)
Labron-best 3 handle(i’ll take pippen-all time)
Lamar best 4 handle(tim duncan-all time)
July 15th, 2009 at 5:57 pm
POPPI GEE says:
I am going to have to say Detroit Dave nailed it. CP3 is crazy with the rock like a yo-yo!
Jamal Crawford will razzle dazzle you.
and as far as bigs go L.O. got that.
Scotty Pippen used to be ill with it too.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:04 pm
Dagomar says:
1 Rafer/Paul
2 Iverson/Crawford
3 Bron
4 Odom (don’t sleep on Bosh though)
5 Bargnani/Gasol
July 15th, 2009 at 6:08 pm
ZoSo4me says:
Why is it everyone forgets Arvidis Sabonas for centers, Yea by the time he got here he was older, But dudes passes where just plain sick. Could handle lick nobodys BISS. And drill the 3 to boot. Had P-Town got him in his prime, they would had a couple of rings each
July 15th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
Sabonis was my BOY!
but not a good dribbler, just passing Skillz
July 15th, 2009 at 6:37 pm
sans says:
SKIP! he can get by anybody, even if he can’t finish that great.
Bron, Kobe, or Wade have the most celebrated handles.
Jesus with a basketball, enough said.
No big man will ever match Hakeem in his prime when it comes to dribbling.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:39 pm
sans says:
Oh yeah, big shout to Bob Cousy…
July 15th, 2009 at 6:48 pm
Reptar says:
Melo’s handle is very underrated.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
runngun22 says:
@joesmoove:
This isn’t the best ankle breakers; it’s the guy with the best handles, short for meaning the best ball handler.
Derrick Rose broke Andre Miller’s ankles but no one is mentioning him.
July 15th, 2009 at 6:49 pm
Nevacare says:
Centers-Ralph Sampson & Pau Gasol
PF-CWebb & Lamar Odom
SF-Billy Owens (the original point forward) & Lebron
SG-A.I. & Wade/Crawford
PG-CP3 & D Will
July 15th, 2009 at 7:10 pm
ctkennedy says:
pg jamal tinsley and jason williams(white boy)best overall handles but tim hardaway had the best crossover though
sg jamal crawford its the only reason he in the league cant guard pass shoots a low percentage but he gets anywhere he wants cause of that handle
sf melo hands down the best player in the league out the triple threat and u know he not gon pass
pf webber and garnett they r better playmakers than half the startin ones in the league bibby fisher nelson the list goes on
c they not suppose to have handles if u do i dont want your ass
July 15th, 2009 at 7:21 pm
tbone says:
wade and bron are jokes. they carry balls like a porn star doing bukake.
July 15th, 2009 at 7:31 pm
fred a stair says:
PG Deron williams
wing lebron james
big anthony randolph
July 15th, 2009 at 8:18 pm
D-NICE says:
PG: Baron Davis, Tim Hardaway , A.I.
SG: Dwyane Wade, Jamal Crawford
SF: Lamar Odom, Lebron James
PF: K.G., Chris Bosh , soon to be Anthony Randolph
C: Young Shaq
July 15th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
parker says:
I’m going to use my criteria as guys who aren’t fast enough to beat you on the first step so they need to get creative.
And I’m going to just go all time for me.
Pg-magic
2g-magic
sf-magic
pf-magic
c-magic
July 15th, 2009 at 9:22 pm
Alew says:
G- D Rose, Has sick handle all the while going a hundred miles an hour!
F- Stephen Jackson
July 15th, 2009 at 9:23 pm
Alew says:
for retired players gotta say Magic Johnson for guards and scottie pippen for forwards
July 15th, 2009 at 9:43 pm
gmoney says:
Where is the joe johnson mention?
Pg- jason williams
Sg- joe johnson/iverson/kobe
SF-lebron james/tracty mcgrady
PF-lamar odom
C-hakeem olajuwon
July 15th, 2009 at 9:45 pm
foolio_iglesias says:
Oliver Miller had the best love handles ever.
July 15th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
king says:
Skip
Iverson
Timmy Hardaway
Stevie Franchise
Jason Williams
J- Kidd
Nash
Steph
Crawford
July 15th, 2009 at 10:44 pm
fasdf says:
JASON WILLIAMS!!!
July 15th, 2009 at 11:32 pm
MOVEZ says:
BIGS
CB34
ANTHONY MASON
GUARDS
ISIAH THOMAS
STEVE FRANCIS
NATE ROBINSON
A.I.
PISTOL PETE
NASH
JASON KIDD
STEPHON MARBURY
DARON WILLIAMS
CP3
MOVEZ GALORE
TIM HARDAWAY…….DAMN SO MANY!
WING
MJ/SCOTTIE PIPPEN
VINNIE JOHNSON
B KING
KOBE
JR SMITH
VC
TMAC
DWADE
MELO
GRANT HILL
July 15th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
JHov says:
It’s not even a question: Derrick Rose..just take a look at what he did to Andre Miller..and what he did to the C’s defense in the play-offs..and he will get better!
Big man is Lamar..name another 6′11 guy who not only is a lefty but has the speed to go from the top of the key in a half court set that can finish with a left or right
SG in the league right now is kind of a toss up..but all-time it’s gotta go to Pistol Pete for the kids that do know google him!!! Penny was that ish too!!
July 15th, 2009 at 11:49 pm
"Tha Boddy" Bad Like Michael says:
Can we not put people in who carry the ball everytime they attempt a crossover (Wade,Young AI)
July 15th, 2009 at 11:51 pm
jzsmoove says:
I am only gonna comment on who Ive seen play.
smalls - Isiah Thomas, Timmy Hardaway, CP3, D-Will
Wings - Durant, Grant Hill, MJ, Penny, Kobe
Bigs - Webber, Bargnani, Melo, Olajuwon And David Robinson
July 16th, 2009 at 12:01 am
CT-Born says:
I agree with jzsmoove
smalls - Isiah Thomas, Timmy Hardaway, CP3, D-Will oh and john stockton
wings- jamaal mashburn,grant hill,kobe, scottie pippin, mj
Bigs- antoine walker ,lamar odem,amare stodimire,olajuwon,and blake griffin
p.s magic johnson
July 16th, 2009 at 1:57 am
rocky lobs says:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fUqjvt0oKvw yessor
July 16th, 2009 at 1:58 am
Bron42 aka Had Springs before Slamball says:
@Chris From LB CALI, your from long beach i’m assumin so maybe ur east coast player knowledge is shaky but lebron has weak ass handles. You NEVER hear about him crossing people or anything. Lebron dick riders need to simply accept, hes not a great skill player. Hes big hes fast hear a decent dunker, but he has no handles, no mid range, no 3. And better than larry bird? How old are you? seriously, anyone knows numbers alone dont mean much. Larry played with like 4 other hall of famers. Lebron plays with bums. So of course his personal stats are gonna be better. Lebron isn’t top small forward of all time. No dunk contests, no rings, got embarassed his 2 biggest times in the playoffs (spurs/magic). I mean seriously, you can’t call urself the greatest and not have a ring. As for just handles at the SF spot, melos handles trash his. paul pierce has better handle and jumper. Don’t confuse his athletic ability with a actual skillset. you rarely ever see him break down a defense with his dribble ala nash,iverson. He more pushes people out the way and just dunks it. Hes never been known for his handle..
p.s: 2 words…CRAB…DRIBBLE
July 16th, 2009 at 2:22 am
matt says:
dwill and boom dizzle (when healthy) for pg
odom for everything else (he can play damn near anywhere)
July 16th, 2009 at 4:14 am
pak-yaw says:
@bron42
i totally agree with you. how can crab king be even in this conversation!!! take away his athletic ability and he’ll basically be just a summer league star! LOL!
July 16th, 2009 at 5:30 am
venja says:
Smalls: Tim Hardaway, A.I and Mr Chibbs
Wings: T-MAC, Penny, Jamal Crawford, Durant
Bigs: C-webb, KG, Odom
July 16th, 2009 at 6:37 am
t-bug says:
Can i say MICHAEL JORDAN?
Everybody kinda sleep on his handle because of his airness, dunk, swag, rings, cigars, JORDAN BRAND, FADAWAY.
But in terms of crossover, between the legs, behind the back & spin move at the same time, no one master ALL THESE BETTER THAN MJ AT THE SAME TIME.
PLUS, HE RARELY TURNED THE BALL OVER WHEN BALL IS IN HIS HANDS, ALL THE HANDLES & MOVES WADE GOT, U CAN SEE IT IN HIS 80′S GAMES.
July 16th, 2009 at 6:41 am
S-SiN says:
PG - AI, CP3, Jason Williams, Nash, Zeke, Tim H
Wing - Kobe, Vince and T-Mac (circa 2001), G.Hill, Dr.J
Bigs - The Dream, The Diesel, Da Kid
July 16th, 2009 at 7:56 am
Nyeme says:
This is current
PG - Baron Davis - his ball control is excellent in and out of traffic and he rarely turns the ball over
SG - Crawford (too bad he a dummy)/Flip handle is underrated
SF - Lebron & Grant Hill
PF - KG
C - Shaq
July 16th, 2009 at 9:14 am
karizmatic says:
Although I wouldn’t say Lebron has the best handles in the league to say he has no handles is disrespectful. The dude has above average handles for a guy his size. I know cats want to hate on LBJ and say he has no skills or whatever, but come on, at least give the dude some respect. You don’t put up the numbers he’s putting up in the league simply with athletic ability.
July 16th, 2009 at 9:28 am
DIEGO says:
pg : deron, paul, marbury,jennings
sg:crawford, wade
PENNY WAS GREAT AND I HOPE HE COMEBACK
July 16th, 2009 at 9:40 am
Cardell says:
Pg-Allen Iverson an tim hardaway Tie
Sg-Kobe an Orl Tmac tie
Sf-Det Grant Hill Young Chi Bulls Pippen 91-95
Pf-KG
C-Hakeem the dream
July 16th, 2009 at 10:37 am
Just a Fan says:
I don’t think its fair to count guys who dribble predominately with 1 hand or who has 1 move to be “a great ball handler”
Examples would be
1) A.I’s stationary left to right cross/carry
2) Starbury’s right to left overcross
3) Jamal Tinsley’s right hand
To be considered a great ball handler, I would say you need a variety of moves and proficiency with both hands (which nobody really is). Below are guys who I think have a wide variety of dribble moves to shake their defender 1on1.
PG Baron Davis
SG Jamal Crawford
SF Paul Pierce
PF KG
C Hakeem
July 16th, 2009 at 11:15 am
hooper5013 says:
Deron Williams has the most handles in the L regardless of position.
2g=Brandon Roy
SF=T-Mac
PF=Lamar Odom
C=who gives a shit
July 16th, 2009 at 11:17 am
QQ says:
@Bron42 aka Had Springs before Slamball
You’re a fucking moron.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:27 am
hendrix says:
Been reading forever finally have to post
Chauncey has solid handles. But at the point ill go with CPtrey.
SG crawford followed by JR…really, dude balls at rucker, in games he sometimes looks like a chicken running around with its head cut off yet he still keeps that dribble..these two easily squash wades walter payton carry.
SF PLEASE stop claiming the DIVA has thee best..seriously! Durant has better handles! Hell turkoglu even..
CRAB DRIBBLE!!!! Lmao..classic!
At the three you definitely have to go with melo..hands down
Yall melo haters get over yoursel already, its been 6 years..hell, melo is even has a better j, and is twice as clutch as bron..period
BIGS..shaq!! Haha LO, watch out for ant randolph..potential to be KEVIN BOSH.
Just my two cents
July 16th, 2009 at 11:33 am
oliver.brain@hannells.co.uk says:
NOONE HAS EVEN MENTIONED MUGGSY?
MUGGSY BOGUES? ANYONE?
this makes me sad.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:34 am
Sweet English says:
NOONE HAS EVEN MENTIONED MUGGSY?
MUGGSY BOGUES? ANYONE?
this makes me sad
July 16th, 2009 at 12:47 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
@bron42 & Pak-Yaw:
so… what your saying is that “if” Lebron was on those Celtic teams he wouldnt be putting up triple Doubles? … WOW..
and i dont even care bout Bron, my MAIN boy is SHEED and always has been since UNC but i just give credit where credit is Due.
and i’m not a Laker fan, I follow college sports more cause the nba is nothing but Rigged! but i do like what the Clippers might look like this year and SHEED & KG tearin it up
July 16th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
sure says:
Jamal Mashburn,Ginobli,Kevin Johnson
July 16th, 2009 at 1:52 pm
Mo says:
CP3=sick handles. Keeps that ball on a yo-yo string. And doesn’t turn it over as much as some others while still being able to keep those handles sick.
July 16th, 2009 at 2:04 pm
sure says:
Young J-kidd and the rest of Triple J from the mavs. Llyod Daniels. Tiny Archibald.
July 16th, 2009 at 4:01 pm
Gfrank says:
All Time and Current
Guard: Pistol Pete Jason Williams(Da white boi)Tim Hardaway Baron Davis Deron William, AI, Marbury, steve francis CP3 Nash
Small Forwards: TMAC by far the Penny, Grant Hill,Scottie Pippen.
PF: Lamar Odom, Chris Webber, Derrick Coleman, Barkley, KG
C: Hakeem by Far……….Shaq(during all star games only) and immediately after college in the league he would try and bring it up the court!
Honorable Mention Street Team/College
God Shamgod (Providence)
Scoonie Penn (Ohio State with M.Redd)
Tyson Wheler (Rhode Island with Odom)
July 16th, 2009 at 4:59 pm
Young Lebron 23 says:
Its AI because he started the crossover. Him and tim hardaway
July 16th, 2009 at 5:35 pm
Omari says:
Remember Kenny Anderson: That’s all the handles you need
July 16th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
Laker4eva says:
iverson/francis
d wade
odom
July 16th, 2009 at 7:59 pm
PD says:
Old School
PG - Nate Archibald
SG - Pete Maravich
SF - Connie Hawkins
PF - Charles Barkley
C - Dave Cowens
Recent
PG - Jason Williams
SG - Kobe Bryant
SF - Tracy McGrady
PF - Chris Bosh
C - Kris Kaman (it’s not close - believe or not he has handles, but not game)
July 16th, 2009 at 11:16 pm
Ariose says:
Flip Murray & Joe Johnson has to AT LEAST be in this discussion….
With that being said:
1) D-Will
2) Baron Davis
…..kobe does not have great handle, he’s just a great scorer.
July 16th, 2009 at 11:45 pm
Ariose says:
Bigs: Al Horford….by far
July 17th, 2009 at 3:26 am
spirow says:
If you guys wanna mention lamar in the convo I can’t believe noones talking about my man Lebron. . . Dude obviously has handles to pull sick moves in the lane. . . D wade is by far the best as SG posistion and point guards would have to go to Chris paul whose a highlight real film. . . up comming stars in this years draft watch out for ricky rubio and tyreke evans i think they’ll be known a lot for their ball handling skills
July 17th, 2009 at 3:28 am
JaKobe says:
Rajon has the ball on a string
but in their prime no kept better care of the ball than J-Kidd, Stevie F had the sickest “legal” street moves, and A.I. King of Cross, for PG… SG given it to Mike or Kobe…He’s got a sick cross to go with his amazing scoring ability so quit hatin future GOAT…SF T-Mac no questions asked…PF Odom, Dirk, and KG, Shaq is there but it can be ripped pretty easy because he can’t keep it low
July 17th, 2009 at 12:22 pm
hillcarlMD says:
j_kidd… who else… nets 2 the finals twice and you’ll never know this year with the mavs would be the charm…. hehe MAVS VS. CELTICS 2010 HAHA
July 17th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
pak-yaw says:
@chris
i thought we were talking about handles? not triple doubles…
anyway i still bliv that bron shouldnt be even included in this discussion…
now if were talking about raw PHYSICAL ability. i think he would be tops all time.
July 17th, 2009 at 12:52 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
FA SHO
i was a little off topic!
but i had to let you all know where i’m comin from
July 17th, 2009 at 1:19 pm
sure says:
Antoine Walker
July 17th, 2009 at 1:26 pm
Joeyo says:
here’s a link don’t need to say nutin else
Wade
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uvQJutDR6Mk
July 17th, 2009 at 6:06 pm
Heisman B says:
put Pip in the mix.
July 17th, 2009 at 6:19 pm
Austin says:
RAFER ALSTON!!!
(he just doesnt use it)
July 17th, 2009 at 7:18 pm
Chris From LB CALI says:
i need to know if anyone has INFO on STEVE FRANCIS?!?!?
July 17th, 2009 at 9:09 pm
Chise says:
Right Now: D-Will
Best Ever: Timmy Hardaway
July 18th, 2009 at 10:06 am
nellybeast says:
handles? look no further than tim hardaway for point guards, michael jordan for shooting guards, scottie pippen or lebron for small forwards, lamar odom for power forwards, and david robinson for centers.
July 18th, 2009 at 10:10 am
nellybeast says:
oh and of all time, it has to be michael jordan, i think too much of yall was paying attention to the dynamics of ball handling rather than the real meaning behind it…and that is one who can successfully handle the basketball!
peep his assist to turnover ratio and peep his turn overs all time….ridiculous! come to think of it, i absolutely never ever saw mike get the ball stolen from anyone….hrmph!, something to think about.
July 18th, 2009 at 12:08 pm
southboy says:
PG
Old School: Tim Hardaway
New School: Boom Dizzle or Skip
SG
Then: Michael Jordan
Now: Jamal Crawford
PF
Then: Charles Barkley
Now: Lamar Odom
SF
Then: Jamal Mashburn
Now: Lebron Bron
C
Then: Shaq or the Dream
Now: Shaq
July 18th, 2009 at 1:42 pm
Ana says:
ALLEN IVERSON….
Then and now….
I dont care what anyone says.
Iverson was used in the pistons. thank god coach got fired. It was his fault and iverson was just punished for it.
He is and always will be an amazing ball player. he has Grounds though, and that pride he has is whats gonna get him to a championship. Mark my words. And the team he will do it for [god willing] Miami HEAT!!!
Im done.. now every hater… go hate!
July 19th, 2009 at 3:11 am
John Lorge says:
Skip, AI, Timmy
July 19th, 2009 at 9:06 am
French Suns Fan says:
Considering is size is Magic Johnson
July 19th, 2009 at 7:05 pm
JUICED says:
1. J Crawford
2. OJ Mayo
3. Baron Davis
4. D Wade
5. Deron Williams
These 5 are crazy with the rock period.
HM: Lebron James, Kobe, AI
July 20th, 2009 at 12:30 pm
KT says:
Tim Hardaway invented the modern day cross-over.
White Chocolate was the truth in his prime.
July 20th, 2009 at 1:31 pm
karizmatic says:
@nellybeast…
you don’t remember that one time Nick Anderson stole the ball from Michael Jordan and Orlando beat Chicago in the playoffs? Not that Jordan wasn’t a good ball handler but there was one time he got the ball stolen from him that everyone should remember.
July 20th, 2009 at 2:47 pm
bwilson says:
PG - ALLEN IVERSON
SG - TRACY MCGRADY
SF - RUDY GAY
PF - LAMAR ODOM
C - SHAQ( YOUNG SHAQ AND THE OLD SHAQ)
July 20th, 2009 at 4:05 pm
bigcov says:
late to the party but here is the answer without a doubt
pg. - cp3. his cross isn’t the sickest but his handle overall is the illiest. his ball control is crazy. sometimes driving in traffic he goes thru the legs or behind the back out of rhythm off the wrong foot completely throwing off the defender and its just ill
big man - lil tougher to call but its probably Anthony Randolph. Someone up there said Varejo LOL that’s laughable he has NO handle. Someone else said Al Hortford. Man yall trippin. Its either Randolph or Odom really and I think Randolph is a lil quicker and more creative. you’ll see if he gets the pt.
wing - Kobe. Come on man kobe’s handle is ill. Dwade carries the ball all the time esp on his cross. Look at young kobe too, he has the same handle now just doesn’t need to use it cuz he plays the angles better. Def Kobe.
July 22nd, 2009 at 1:36 am
johnsacrimoni says:
Shaq has and has always had a terrible handle! The only reason he does that behind the back stuff in all-star games is because everybody let him. The worst I’ve ever seen is Hasheem Thabeet.
PG Deron
HM Nash
WING Wade
Big Odom/Gasol
PAST Isiah, Pistol Pete
BIG Webber
July 23rd, 2009 at 11:38 pm
NC says:
Steve Nash. He know’s where the ball is going before he even begins to dribble.
July 24th, 2009 at 3:35 am
gpeps says:
im gunna go with iverson at pg
even though hr isnt in the nba yet i think brandon jennings has sick handles.
if u consider hedo as a big man then he has good handles but if u consider him a wing then there r deff better out there.
as for best big man i wud have to say pau gasol is pretty swell.
July 26th, 2009 at 11:40 pm
DJ says:
Jamal Crawford
Rafer Alston
Will Bynum
Lamar Odom
Troy Hudson
Marcus Banks
Devin Harris
God Shammgod
Johnny Flynn
John Stockton (yes, believe it!)
July 29th, 2009 at 10:14 am
r22 says:
past:
“pistol pete”
isiah thomas
tim hardaway
kenny anderson
jay -will (comeback)
present:
steve nash
skip
will bynum
mike conley (aka kenny anderson)
cp3
August 16th, 2009 at 12:59 am
jjkljkk;jhjhjhohuogyuf says:
pg: rafer alston
sg: wade
sf: t-mac
pf: lamar odom
C: Nene