Smack / Aug 30, 2009 / 6:42 am

Capt. Jack, Monta trade rumors; Houston’s post-Yao strategy

Stephen Jackson

Stephen Jackson

An early-morning rumor out of Dallas says the Mavs and Warriors are on-deck to start up some trade talks, likely involving Stephen Jackson and/or Monta Ellis. When Captain Jack told Dime he wanted to be traded, he did say “anywhere in Texas” as a preferred destination. But as we’ve said before, it’s not about what Jackson wants, especially when he’s got a long-term, big-money contract that’s hard to move. Enter Monta. He and Nellie haven’t exactly been getting along (shocker), and seeing as Nellie reportedly loves Stephen Curry, Monta could be expendable in his eyes. No idea what the Mavs would be willing to give up to get either Jackson or Monta, though, so for now it’s really just a one-sided rumor … Who knew they were so optimistic over at Rockets HQ? In yesterday’s Houston Chronicle, GM Darryl Morey put a positive spin on what’s suddenly turned into a rebuilding project only a couple months after the Rockets stretched the eventual champion Lakers to seven games in the playoffs. “We’re going to be up-tempo, fun to watch, young players easy to root for,” Morey said. “It’s exciting. I think it’ll be fun to watch the team group up and grow together, all in a style we’re trying to move to. You’re going to see us playing the way coach would rather play.” … Translation: Although Yao Ming‘s 20 points and 10 boards will obviously be missed, Rick Adelman is using Yao’s absence to have the squad running like his early-2000s Kings and late-’80s/early-’90s Blazers used to. Even when Yao was in the picture, the Rockets often had success with their younger, faster lineup on the court pushing the pace, and now that Aaron Brooks is coming off a semi-breakout postseason and Trevor Ariza has been added, should be even more effective going up-tempo. We’re not saying they’re better without Yao — just different. Perhaps a not-so-bad kind of different … Still no word on who’s gonna start at center, though. Luis Scola is the best player amongst those who can play the five, and he played center when Houston went small last year, but he’s a natural four. Euroleague import David Andersen, undersized and comically bad free-throw shooter Chuck Hayes, and possibly-too-jacked-for-his-own-good Joey Dorsey are the remaining candidates. (What’s worse: Hayes’ shooting form, or Charles Barkley‘s golf swing?) This makes it even more of a shame that Dikembe Mutombo had to end his career on that freak knee injury, because had he been around to hold the job for Yao, this would’ve been a nice retirement tour for him … T-Mac is said to be ahead of schedule in his injury rehab, and has been working out with Tim Grover in Chicago, the guy who trains D-Wade and who used to train Michael Jordan. Even if he does have a monster year, we have the feeling the Rockets are gonna let McGrady walk in free agency — or if they do attempt to re-sign him, it’ll be for a big pay cut. Mac’s $23 million coming off the cap gives Houston a lot of room to go after a big-time free agent, and we’d bet one of their top targets will be Texas native Chris Bosh … Scola put up 20 points in Argentina’s win over Panama at the FIBA Americas tournament yesterday, Argentina’s first win after opening pool play with two straight losses. Granted, they don’t have Manu Ginobili, Andres Nocioni, Carlos Delfino or Fab Oberto, so it’s pretty much that same JV team that Scola had to carry in this same tourney a couple years ago (when he got MVP despite Team USA destroying the comp throughout) … Other notable stat lines from FIBA Americas: Charlie Villanueva dropped 28 points and 12 boards to lead the Dominican Republic past Venezuela, while Francisco Garcia added 21 points, and Al Horford had 14 points and 12 boards; Gustavo Ayon posted 16 points, 15 boards and six blocks in Mexico’s win over the Virgin Islands; and Esteban Batista‘s 18 points and 12 boards helped Uruguay knock off Canada … Carlos Arroyo has been putting in work at the FIBA tourney for host country Puerto Rico, averaging 19 points and seven assists while PR has gone undefeated in three games. After a season playing pro ball in Israel, Arroyo is now in talks with some NBA teams about coming back to the League. The Bulls, Bucks and Celtics are reportedly in the mix. Of those three, Boston makes the most sense. Milwaukee (Ramon Sessions, Brandon Jennings, Luke Ridnour, Roko Ukic) and Chicago (Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich, Jannero Pargo, Lindsey Hunter) could have as many as four PG’s on their rosters for next season; the Celtics still need somebody to fill that hole Stephon Marbury temporarily filled last year, the one that makes it so Eddie House doesn’t have to pretend to be a point guard when he passes less often than an inconsiderate stoner … We’re out like Chuck’s free-throw form …

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  • Josh Tha roc

    LOL at the stoner line

  • http://uoregon.edu sans

    yeah, second the LOL on the stoner line.

    But, for real, I hate sitting in the middle on a couch, cause I can’t remember shit, and the pipe keeps ending up in my hand. What to do, what to do…

  • Josh Tha roc

    Although eddie is pretty quick to pass that ish if he isn’t within range and needs to avoid dribbling.

  • http://thisis50.com Sell Them

    How does the North Dakota Warriors sound???

  • S-SiN

    Stoner line is classic on a Ghetto Golf scale.

  • S-SiN

    Jack to the Mavs makes sence if they let go of either Matrix or Josh Howard.
    remember the days when Shawn Marion bitched about not being the first offensive option on a 60 win team?

  • dial up

    why woulds the mavs let go of howard or the guy they just traded for, matrix.? Aint happenin

  • jzsmoove

    T Mac ahead of his rehab schedule…somewhere there is a punchline in there.

    I think its about time Tim Grover needs to be stopped being re-introduced over and over again. At this point we all know who the guy is now and the people who has helped train or work out with.

    Carlos Arroyo sucks playing NBA ball. He’s like a poor man’s Jannero Pargo.

  • doc

    That Fiba tourney sucks.

  • Celts Fan

    @Jzsmooth – pargo’s pretty good man. I’d take him on my team any day. A perfect bench scoring guard.

    I don’t get the Mavs wanting Monta. They already have Jet. And yes, I’d get rid of either Matrix or Howard if you could get both Capt Jack and Monta, no question. Though I’d def try to move Jet in the deal if they’re trying to get Monta.

    Great stoner line fellas.

  • S-SiN


    I don’t think they should do that either, but how else would they fit S-Jack into rotation? they’re already stacked at that position even if they don’t sign Nick Calathes. Marion, Howard, Shawne Williams, Singleton, Quinton Ross, Humpries, Matt Carroll, Gerald Green, Nivis. hell Buckner is 6-4, but throw him in there too at the guard. Gotta give someone up, an even though i agree, it ain’t gonna happen, GSW would consider constructing a trade around only two of those. They have plenty small guards at the Bay and Dallas cannot give up any bigs, so..

  • nawlage

    would be great to see the mavs trade with the team that smashed on them in the ’07 playoffs anddd ruined there championship hopes.

    I hope Monta gets traded dudes allstar talent, probably not going to happen but that backcourt with Ellis and Curry eventually is gonna bea disaster and its all gon be cause of Nelie, dudes a dickhead he’s ruining the Warriors right now, he’s got a monster in Randolph but I betchu he’s barely gon play him he’s gonna stick to that 4 guards 1 center b.s, its fun to watch but does it win? Jackson knows that and now he wants out. Don’t blame em.

  • http://twitter.com/PoppiGEE POPPI GEE

    Houston Up!

    I really think “The DA” (David Andersen) is going to shock people and do better than expected. He will probably start at center.

    Lookin at probably
    Jermain Taylor
    Trevor Ariza
    Luis Scola
    David Andersen

    With the “Hard Work” Bench.

    Gonna be a gutsy type crew that will probably do better than expected. I think a lot depends on J.T. and Chase and look for J.T. to give up his roll when Lamar comes back.

    The Storm is coming.

    Gonna be fun and interesting.

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  • http://www.gmail.com UglyBetty

    Now the Knicks need Monta Ellis! They should get Stephen Jackson too! If it means trading Wilson Chandler, Eddy Curry, S&T Nate Robinson and a second rounder then we should get it done!

  • Robinson Cuarousko

    Isiah thomas would give up gallo 4 him

  • gregory

    Eddie House actually passes a lot, not for assists but he gives up the ball to Pierce or Ray who run the offense when he’s out there. He’s not someone who brings the ball up and dribbles the air out of it before shooting, 1) because he can’t dribble 2) because his game is about spotting up or curling off screens and he needs to give up the ball to be effective. He plays the role of shooter and backup 2-guard even he’s listed as their backup point because of his height. He does guard opposing points however.

    The thing about having a true backup point who handles the ball a lot and distributes touches is that it gets in the way of Pierce or Ray, especially Pierce, from anchoring the offense. When they won the championship two years ago, Pierce led the second unit. No opposing team had the quality of a player like Pierce leading their second unit, creating for himself and getting open shots for House, Posey, Powe and Glen Davis. It also nicely managed the touches between Garnett, Pierce and Ray. No backup point is going to be as dangerous leading an offense as Pierce or Ray.

  • Buffalo Brave

    (What’s worse: Hayes’ shooting form, or Charles Barkley’s golf swing?)


    Man WTF is wrong with chuck?

    Why does he rear back to go through a complete swing, only to stop and pause after 4 and 1/2 inches and THEN swing and hit it?

    Does he not realize that this disgraceful swinging method is the reason why he’s so ASS at golf?

    It’s like he has some kind of mental block and gets shook in his swing every time!


    Dear Sir Charles,

    Why not only rear back HALFWAY on your swing thus eliminating that UNCLUTCH double clutch swing you got going?

    You’ll hit the ball just as far, and more effectively.


  • Skeeter McGee

    DIME was on point today, stoner line for the ages…

  • Buffalo Brave

    Oh and that stoner line is CLASSIC btw.

    Good shit!

  • http://realsportstalk.net Realsportstalk.net

    David Andersen is 7′, he’s starting at center.

  • Hollywood

    They probably won’t trade jet, Marion or Howard. They are going to send expiring contracts and maybe jj barrea. I’m looking at the trade being jj, buckner, humphries, Carroll, and singleton or green. If they don’t trade green they are going to eventually cut him. That’s a given. The mavs plan on keeping Terry because he is the only legitimate 2 guard besides Ross.

  • paul

    Houston is the best place he can play, Houston can trade Shane Battier and Brent Barry to Golden State. Golden State might be losing a leading scorer and Houston might losing a defensive player and accurate shooter. This might be the best trade of bringing Stephen Jackson to his hometown again!

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