Smack / Oct 30, 2009 / 5:37 am

One Duncan Don’t Stop No Show

Derrick Rose (photo. Sasha Nialla)

Derrick Rose (photo. Sasha Nialla)

When the Spurs smacked the sting out of the Hornets in their season opener the other night, everybody but Tim Duncan looked like world-beaters. Last night in Chicago, Duncan proved he’s still dominant when he needs to be, but his teammates didn’t show up and San Antone took an L … The Bulls just had too many weapons to counter the Spurs’ one-man show. Derrick Rose put up 13 points and seven dimes and Luol Deng had 17 and nine boards, as the whole starting five and sixth man Kirk Hinrich scored in double figures. Rose showed no effects of the ankle injury that grounded him for most of the preseason; he was hitting circus layups, blowing past guys off the dribble, and getting in the air to challenge shots. It sounds weird to say somebody with Rose’s athleticism was a “game manager,” but the kid had his Andre Miller mask on, smartly spreading the ball around and always seeming to make the right decision … Deng was just as impressive, especially considering how bad he looked for the majority of last season. Last night he was moving smoothly without the ball, flying all over the place for offensive rebounds, and generally displaying the game-changing ability that earned him that $70 million contract in the first place. When he’s on, Deng is like a more bouncy version of post-injury Grant Hill … How bad was Duncan’s supporting cast? For the first 10 and a half minutes of the third quarter, Duncan (28 pts, 16 rebs, 3 blks) scored all but two of the Spurs points. He was killing on that face-up banker, which he hit from the same spot all night. But Tony Parker (4-11 FG) and Manu Ginobili (3-11 FG) just didn’t do their part … And Richard Jefferson deserves his own paragraph. Before the first commercial break he’d bricked two threes badly, had a layup sent back in his face by Rose, missed another jumper, and found a seat on Coach Pop’s bench. It looked like maybe the Spurs were trying to get RJ on track and run the offense through him early, but when that didn’t work, scrapped the plan and resumed leaning on Duncan, Parker and Manu. Jefferson finished with nine points on 3-of-9 shooting (and later in the game got smashed on by Tyrus Thomas); between that and his 1-of-7 line against New Orleans, he’s had a worse two-game start than the Cavaliers … PLEASE tell us Joakim Noah didn’t hit a jumper and do the “You can’t see me” thing afterward. C’mon son! (Shout-out to Ed Lover.) You uncorked that ugly-ass J and it goes in once, now you’re acting like you’re Ben Gordon? Get the eff outta here with that … Charles Barkley made a good point that guys like Parker and Ginobili get worn out during the season and more susceptible to injury because they play for their national teams immediately following long NBA playoff runs. Good point, except for Parker doesn’t have a history of injury or fatigue problems, and Team France usually doesn’t go very far in their big tournaments anyway … Kevin McHale said in the TNT studio that the Spurs were “done” last season when Manu went down. “They could still beat bad teams,” he added, just not the contenders. And somehow nobody pointed out that McHale’s Timberwolves would’ve been one of those bad teams. Remember who took that 55-point drilling by Parker when Ginobili was out? … Now would be a good time to reiterate Smack’s preseason prediction that Carmelo Anthony will lead the NBA in scoring. After dropping 30 on the Jazz in the opener, ‘Melo hit the Blazers for 41 last night. He hit the go-ahead jumper with about four minutes left, part of a run where ‘Melo scored 10 straight Denver points, and his two free throws with two seconds left capped a 19-point quarter. Brandon Roy scored 30 points (16-18 FT) in the loss, and missed a potential game-tying three at the buzzer that looked exactly like the one he hit on the Rockets last year … But before that sequence, Greg Oden (6 pts, 9 rebs, 2 blks) went to the line with 4.6 seconds left and a chance for Portland to take the lead. He bricked both freebies. Oden hasn’t been a big part of the offense so far, but he’s looking like he could average double-digit rebounds and multiple blocks. If down the road G.O.’s niche in the NBA is about eight points, 10-11 boards and 2-3 blocks per night and the Blazers are perennial contenders, would you consider Oden a bust as the No. 1 overall pick? What if draft classmate Kevin Durant is dropping 25-30 points a night, Al Horford is good for a regular double-double, and Jeff Green is a borderline All-Star? … If you read some of the excerpts from Tim Donaghy‘s book yesterday, then watched the Blazers/Nuggets game where the teams combined for 90 free throws, did it affect your perception at all? … After a month and a half’s worth of counting down, Dime’s Austin Burton says Kobe Bryant is the best go-to guy in the League. OK, maybe not the biggest surprise, but check it out and see if you agree with Kobe’s spot or the list overall … Bob Knight has decided not to attend his induction into the Indiana University sports Hall of Fame next week. Knight told the administration he worried about his presence taking too much attention away from the other inductees. Honestly, that sounds like a weak excuse. By that logic, Michael Jordan shouldn’t have gone to this year’s Naismith H.O.F. ceremony, and Brett Favre shouldn’t show up the year he gets put into the football Hall. It’s highly likely Knight just doesn’t want to go because Indiana fired him once upon a time … Just one NBA team has yet to make their ’09-10 regular season debut, so if you’ve got the NBA League Pass free preview, don’t miss the Milwaukee Bucks tonight as they get going against the Sixers! OK, Bucks/Sixers is probably the worst game on the schedule, but we tried … We’re out like Donaghy’s royalties …

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  • douglas copeland

    keem went toes with Shaq,P-Ewing,D.Robinson and bested them and yes he did Kareem enroute to his first finals appearance where they lost to the Celts.I’d say that pretty much covers the top tier of centers the league has ever seen with acception to your boy B.Russell & Wilt

  • Ian

    chicagorilla
    stop it man its getting embarassing
    now toe to toe isnt playing your man to a draw? no is a team thing? so lebron got shitted on by hedo? stockton got shitted on by ron harper?

    now you come with the excuse that it went 7 please the spurs rockets went 6. facts are facts ewing got owned badly on that series dave at least put up something.

    product of his environment and then mention nash and davis? davis mini antoine walker davis lol

    oh those stats are accurate my man google them it show head to head of hakeem vs dave vs ewing vs shaq and everyone owned ewing.

    cynic says on that final line. people we all learned something new today going head to head is being on the best team and winning the series not your matchup. fisher shitted on deron last season in the first round right chicagorilla?

    recap
    6 game series avg 24ppg on 45% vs 7 game series avg 18ppg on 33% (my bad i posted 35 it was 33). sure thing the second one is the best.

  • Ian

    doug
    jabbar ranks higher than hakeem it was just one series im sure (i dont know but it prob happened) the lakers knocked out houston also. besides those resumes dont even come close remember we can argue jabbar as the greatest ever also.

    if you go by that remember that parker has beaten billups , nash , deron , paul , payton , kidd in the playoffs also.
    btw its way better to argue with u than this man posting davis over parker crap.
    its been good but im out for today.

  • jjankechu

    @ control

    “For a 70 year old man, Mutombo was CRAZY athletic…”

    he probably chose 55 when he entered the L because that was his real age.

    @ rangerjohn
    numbers are just numbers, but you just gotta understand them.

    1) True there are 48 min in a game but not too many players (let alone centers) play 48 a game. If you went per game, then whichever played more minutes during the game would have better stats. How many minutes they play is up to the coach (among other factors), so normalizing to 36 makes for a fairer representation of what they did when they were actually on the floor.

    That’s not to say that there isn’t value in playing more minutes. I debated whether or not to list per game or per 36 numbers, but I figured since we’re debating which is the better player (and not which was more valuable over a season/career), per 36 made more sense.

    (and for the record, HO is *better* when looking at per game averages)

    2) My bad including 09-10, but since we’re talking about rate stats the numbers are not going to move very much. here’s their first 12 seasons.

    http://www.basketball-reference.com/play-index/tiny.cgi?id=mhTn0

    Points/36: HO (+2.2)
    Boards/36: HO (+0.2)
    BLocks/36: HO (+1.1)
    Steals/36: HO (+1.1)
    TO/36: TD (-0.3)

    and whoever it was that thinks a full block and steal per 36 (or game) is “close”…i don’t know what to say. i guess think about that as a %. it’s not even close to being close.

    shit, i think just done convinced myself (as did d.copeland). Hakeem was WAY better than Timmy.

    But you can never say none to come. LBJ is going to start having some monster years any second now.

  • Kudabeen

    I’ve never been a big fan of Melo, because he routinely disappeared when it matters most, but I think he got a taste of success last playoffs and while matching up with Kobe he saw that he can look down on one of the best players and know he is better. He was bullying Kobe at times. That doesn’t happen. It is about killer instinct with him and these first to games for Denver he is looking like the best player in the L.

    I think he has a great chance at that MVP this year. He will at least finish as high as he ever has. I’m very impressed by his focus.

  • LakeShow84

    ^ Reallly Kudabeen ?? ^

    I mean really tho lol

  • LakeShow84

    @ Ian, Chicagorilla and whoever else..

    Your aruguements wont matter once Andrew Bynums career is over!!

    Lol ok jk..

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Gabriel-Brogden/507128757 GABRIEL BROGDEN

    Obviously you guys are missing the point:

    THABEET and HIBBERT are better than Hakeem and Wilt combined times 10 raised to the 7th power plus infinite.

  • Dapro

    Damn this a crazy “debate”

    Let me throw this out -

    Td is an alltime great but i watched the dream in his early yrs and in his prime- hands down the best center I’ve ever seen. His bball Iq is equal to Timmy but he has the edge at both ends of the floor.

    Timmy problem was gaurding althletic long bigs – c Amare, CAmby in the finals)

    The dream is the perfect combo of size, speed, and strength for center. In his prime no one can guard him especially when he had extra motivation- c Drob winning the finals

  • http://www.nukedasouth.net Chicagorilla

    @Ian,

    Your head game is vicious, Superhead would be proud.

  • AdvancedMind

    lol @ Ian being super head, except its not rappers getting blessed its the spurs roster, EVEN MATT BONNER?

  • douglas copeland

    blog 111.lmao.

  • Diego

    Damn, 112 comments. I have not read them yet, but my read on Greg Oden: He will be the African-American Joel Przyblla–complete with blocked shots and chronic injuries.

  • Ian

    chicagorilla
    based on that post i imagine you admit you were posting ignorant crap. toe to toe gtfoh

  • baron von faulk

    This is weird to post a couple days after the fact, but I just got done reading this argument (DUNCAN v OLAJUWON), which has already been on this site a million times.

    I feel it my obligation as both a fan of the current Spurs, and the old-school 94-95 Rockets, to point this out:

    DAVID ROBINSON guarded HAKEEM OLAJUWON one-on-one almost the entire series. And he paid the price and got beasted, self-admittedly. Whenever they did double, Hakeem either fought through it and still got the bucket, or made the right pass to a teammate.

    The Houston Rockets sent quadruple teams at the Admiral because the Spurs had NOBODY else to go to. So you absolutely must consider these facts when talking about that monumental series for Olajuwon. The stats are a bit skewed because the Rockets were a superior TEAM. It was one-on-five for the Admiral.

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