NBA, Smack / Mar 5, 2010 / 2:00 am

Dwyane Wade and Kobe Bryant Shoot it Out in an Overtime Thriller; Big Z Finds a Home


We’re still trying to figure out how the Miami Heat beat the Lakers last night, because it certainly didn’t feel like it was going Miami’s way. In the second half and then into the first part of overtime, it felt like the Heat were being buried in an avalanche of 39 points-worth of Kobe Bryant jumpers, drives and fadeaways. Every time Kobe hit a shot though, Dwyane Wade made some kind of big play on the other end of the floor to keep the game tight and to eventually put the Heat ahead in the second half of the overtime frame. Wade was in straight playmaker mode, taking on ballhandling duties in crunch time and either scoring (27 points) or kicking to wide-open teammates (14 dimes) when double and triple teams came flying at him. The rest of the Heat knocked down open shots and Miami won, 114-111… Is there anyone in basketball better at splitting double teams than Wade? He cuts through them at top speed like they’re not even there. Kobe wasn’t guarding Wade down the stretch (presumably to save him for the offensive end of the floor), so Ron Artest was doing his best to check him. When that grew into a serious problem for L.A., they started running doubles at Wade as soon as he got near the top of the key. The result? Wade split the doubles over and over again with ease and found guys like Udonis Haslem and Quentin Richardson (25 points on seven threes) for open jumpers … One of those open Q shots came at the end of regulation when he drilled a three to put Miami up two with 11 seconds left. You know Miami was happy for two seconds before realizing they had just left Kobe with 11 seconds to go to work … Mamba didn’t disappoint. Out of the timeout – with Wade checking him – Kobe casually walked the ball down the court, made a strong move to his right, pulled up (with Dwyane draped all over him), and stuck a fadeaway to tie the game with three seconds to go. Then he strolled back to the Lakers huddle like he was playing golf … Kobe continued to casually go about destroying Quentin Richardson in the overtime, trading baskets with Heat, until double teams forced him to start giving up the ball. That led to consecutive possessions where Lamar Odom launched an ill-advised three and Jordan Farmar threw up an out-of-control driving runner. On the next possession, a clearly frustrated Kobe drew an offensive foul when he tried to get to the rim and draw a foul. Game over … Suns/Jazz was a pretty pedestrian game until the fourth quarter was halfway finished. In that last chunk of the game, there was a near fight between Amar’e Stoudemire and Paul Millsap after they got tangled up under the rim, a flagrant foul (compliments of Robin Lopez), a crazy Jason Richardson follow up dunk that will undoubtedly be all over ESPN, and a huge three from Mehmet Okur as the shot clock expired to put the Jazz up two about a minute after TNT showed a stat that Okur was averaging a pathetic 1.5 points in the fourth quarter this season … The Jazz, after trailing most of the game (by as many as 13 points), found some life in the fourth and pulled out the win, 116-108 … The Bulls blew a 17-point lead at home in a loss to the Memphis Grizzlies, wasting solid offensive showings from Luol Deng (23 points) and Derrick Rose (20 points). For Memphis, Zach Randolp was a monster, going for 31 and 18. Unfortunately for him, the only thing anyone will remember from this game will be the savage dunk that Rose unleashed on him in the third quarter. We’ll find the video and post it for you today … News dropped early evening East Coast time that free agent Zydrunas Ilgauskas has decided that he’s going to re-sign with the Cavs. There was a feeling that maybe a team like the Hawks could talk him (or pay him) out of going back to Cleveland. We would have liked it Z shook things up a bit a signed with our new favorite title contender, the Mavs. They need more size and Z would feast on open jumpers coming from Jason Kidd passes and Dirk double teams … We’re out like doubling Wade.

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  • isotope

    How are you going to have

    “you kobe and Mj stans make me sick…”
    and
    “lebron and wade play team ball talk team ball…they understand team play… kobe… yeah rite.. assits to kobe are like kryptonite to superman… nuff said…”

    in the same post? lol.

    What if I said: I can’t stand Wade. He’s a ball hog. He HAS to have the ball in his hands. He HAS to be the one that makes the pass, AND the shot. He’s a SHOOTING guard; not a point guard. Let the PG do his job and stop demanding the ball every doggone time! He’s lucky they walked out with a win.

    lol. Yeah I know. Sounds ridiculous.

  • common sense

    man lets be real… wade plays shooting gaurd but hes really a point gaurd.. positions dont matter because unlike the lakers wade gas to do it all but u still dont see no 28shots man.. seriously 28shots with gasol odom artest bynum… seriously… how does that ever happen… how… you know phil is just pissed and he cant say shizzle to kobe because he cant penetrate the ego that surrounds his ego… seriously 28 shots whaaaaaa cut damn…

    i will reiterate… IF KOBE WAS STILL INJURED THR LAKERS WOULD HAVE WON… suck on that isotope and lakeshow kobe nut hugerzzzz

  • My Favorite Superhero

    Man, this is great….I’m bored as hell at work and I get to have basketball discussions (via the net) with people who know ball….not just fantasy stats….keep it going!

    I agree with Lakeshow in saying that Kobe had an “MJ Like” game. Everyone knows he will never be MJ….somebody needs to close the floodgates of hate.

    Kobe is good. Period. He’s a winner. Period. He competes. Period. He’s arrogant in interviews, he comes off overly confident, (He’s disrespected Philly) He’s etc. Period. Give the man some respect for his game! We’ve all played against cats on the court who are good, but we don’t want to admit it, because they’re arrogant, etc. BUT we know the truth.

    Again….WHY IS NO ONE GIVING WADE HIS PROPS!?!?!!!!! 20+ and 12+ assists AND guarding Kobe AND doing this against doubles and Artest AND going home and smashing Gabby Union????

    My bad, that last part was from my dreams

  • isotope

    superhero: the article gives Wades his props. See:

    “… Is there anyone in basketball better at splitting double teams than Wade? He cuts through them at top speed like they’re not even there. Kobe wasn’t guarding Wade down the stretch (presumably to save him for the offensive end of the floor), so Ron Artest was doing his best to check him. When that grew into a serious problem for L.A., they started running doubles at Wade as soon as he got near the top of the key…”

    @CommonSense: It’s ridiculous because Wade needs to do whatever he needs to do to win. If he has to be a playmaker, then he has to. And is 28 shots THAT much more than 21 by Wade. And you know if QRich wasn’t hitting his shots Wade would have shot more. Wade averages 20 shots per game while Kobe averages 22. Carmelo and Bron also average around 20. In fact all the top scorers average about 20 shots per game. And they all have pretty good supporting casts. Especially ‘Melo and Lebron.

  • LakeShow84

    Damn he went home and smashed Gabrielle Union?? i didnt even think of that..

    That SOB!!!!

    And if Dwade had a good supporting cast he would avg close to 9-10APG while dropping 22-27ppg, probably more.. dude has to do EVERYTHING on his team.. including check the other teams best player from BEGINNING to end..

    Lets not forget when Dwade had a decent team he was running the East.. it wasnt you know who..

  • common sense

    before this goes any further.. i just want to acknowledge kobes greatness.. but i will never respect him for his selfishness.. if he only could play TEAM ball the lakers would be unstoppable… really wouldnt loose a game… i dont see how.. theyre that good.. i have not seen a more complete team ever… except for fish… i have no idea why he plays so much (seriously)… kobe ruined one dynasty and I can see him ruining another but this time in a different and more subtle way…

  • http://www.WhyCandaceWhySheldon.thatbastard.com Chicagorilla

    @Lakeshow,

    Mj ALWAYS took the last shot…or did he ALWAYS make the right play? Lets re-cap

    1992 NBA Finals Game 6 SERIES CLINCHER vs Portland: MJ has bad game and gets benched. Pippen with bench players Livingston, Bobby Hansen, BJ Armstrong, Craig Hodges, Scott Williams and Stacy King led the team back from a 20pt deficiet. Jordan did not complain, or beg to be put in. Once re-inserted into the game, he played great defense, and made plays to HELP THE BULLS secure the win.

    1993 NBA Finals game 6 SERIES CLINCHER vs the Suns: MJ had been scoring at will all series long and had even taken 63 shots in a triple OT loss trying to win it by himself. Last few second of THIS game, MJ drives and makes a pass to John Paxson because he was double teamed and Paxson hits the game winner…3 peat secured.

    1997 NBA finals, game 6 SERIES CLINCHER vs Utah: MJ had already hit a game winner in game 1 over Bryon Russell, so Utah sent a double at him. Jordan had already warned Kerr that this would happen and told him to be ready. Jordan hit Kerr for what was the game winner… Repeat secured.

    Those are just the examples I coming with off the top. I’m sure I can find plenty other ones.

    Kobe is great, and I’m not taking that away from him. And talent wise he is easily top 5-8 all time. But he doesn’t have the IT factor. He’s just a super talented player. He doesn’t have a WILL/DRIVE TO WIN. Kobe has a WILL/DIRVE to score. That’s it. You never see him making game winning plays in important games.

  • My Favorite Superhero

    I’m sorry, but the Lakers do not have a complete team….they lack too many pieces coming off the bench and they have too many good pieces who do the same things

    I’d look at the Hawks as having a complete team, with a solid bench or even my….I can’t claim them this year….THE 76ers…The Lakers have great talent, but they lack in too many places and that’s one of the reason’s that Kobe jacks so much….just one of them

    And Lakeshow is right, Wade was killing the East before the prince and he’s still doing his thing today, while the Prince needs all kinds of pieces just for him to not get over the hump

  • My Favorite Superhero

    @ Gorilla….But honestly, other than Fish and maybe Artest, who else on that team can he pass too to bring it home??? The team looks to him to closet he games out because everyone else are basically just upgrades of each other….

    MJ had quality shooters on his team that had proved themselves….Kobe has Shannon Brown…Wade has Q Rich….LBJ has whatever he wants

    MJ had other guys who could step up and take over the game….Kobe, at best has Odom and Gasol…Wade has Gabby Union….LBJ has whatever he wants

    Basically, my point is that MJ is the greatest, but he had admirable help…Kobe is the best right now, but truthfully and from a basketball standpoint, Kobe, Wade, Durant, etc, don’t have those great complimentary players causing them to look like ball hogs

    When Kobe was on the Olympic team, he diverted to his teammates, because he had other guys to take the slack continually

  • LakeShow84

    @ ChiTown

    Who knows maybe Kobe will make those plays?? maybe he wont need to??

    Bottom line is Kobe got a lot of those moments left to make the right decisions.. he’ll have to trust his teammates eventually in the PLAYOFFS.. key word there PLAYOFFS.. your crying about a regular season dude.. all those MJ moments you listed were in the FINALS..

    who hit that dagger trey in game 4 of this past Finals?? yeah that was Fisher.. who got that assist?? oh shit that was Kobe..

    Dagger trey from Fish = 3-1 Finals lead.. chip secured

    “He (Kobe) doesn’t have a WILL/DRIVE TO WIN” = WOWZers bruh.. WOWZers.. i mean wowzers..

  • http://dime eyes

    D Wade is better than Lebron in my book. My Opinion I heard the grumbling already & TMobile doesn’t have a blog.

    The Lakers & Phil Jackson are what w/o Kobe Bryant. Shaq has how many rings w/o Kobe. Pau Gasol got an extension & Derek Fisher can start. Shannon Brown & Ariza games are relevant. The Lakers legacy has lived on because. Lebron thinks the best player in the game is? Hibachi favorite player in the league is. Michael Jordan has given the man his respect. He was the best player in the Olympics that chose to concentrate on the D assignments. How many stars could do that & still dominate in the clutch to secure the win.

    The hate for both players at times is justified. Let’s take it easy on the comparisons. We don’t really compare Lebron to anybody. Who actually started to comparisons. They’re are going to be plenty. Kobe modeled his game after arguably the greatest guard to ever play the game at the 2. I do it by positions for arugment sake. The man is amazing. We just can’t relate to his cockiness & demeanor. He isn’t hip hop therefore Philly won’t claim him. He’s more crossover than anything. It’s like Lebron he doesn’t scream Hip HOp either. In a way your forced to love Lebron by Media which causes the Hate. Everybody loves Wade as they should because he continues to fly under the radar w/ little to no pressure to win year in & out. If Kobe or Lebron don’t make it to the Finals let alone win. They’ve failed.

    My favorite players in the league now currently
    Wade,Gilbert,CP3/Deron,Kobe,Melo,Jennings. In that order. I don’t like Kobe swagger or his demeanor. I don’t think I’d even like to hang wth him off the court. From a pure basketball perspective the man is as close to greatness in today’s game. We may never see another player grace the court like him. To say Lebron is the best player in the league. Is close to Stupid or just rushing along history seriously. I know everyone has a job to do. If your boss says promote the man. YOu promote the man.

    D.Wade only has ring because he played with Shaq and wasn’t the alpha male. If anybody has the games of when they were winning please start replaying them on NBA TV. Tell me Kobe didn’t have that team on his back. Shaq was literally always in foul trouble & couldn’t make free throws. Even ask D.Wade about Kobe Bryant. Everyone is looking up at that man. To see him perform like that injured & on the decline. Lets you know how special he is. If he were on your team. You’d be a fan. Same for Lebron. Stop taking the damn sport so personal. We don’t know them & wish we did. LOL. LMAO.

    We’re all miserable & wish we were our heroes. We think we could do better but I beg to differ. Those are some big shoes to fill. That is why so few make it & why they deserve to be treated & compensated diffently. We aren’t that equal in every sense of the way. We may be stronger in other depts but in ability to master their craft. ITS SIMPLY AMAZING TO BE ABLE TO WATCH.

  • K Dizzle

    @ POST 57

    Did u just pick out 4 scenarios that “prove” Mike never messed up in his career.
    Maybe you should start before ’92…

    And by the way, against the Suns, Mike didn’t pass to Paxson. Pretty shameful for a Bulls fan to not know that. Mike inbounded. Gave the ball to Scottie, who drove and found Horace who kicked it out to Paxson for the trey. Stop givin credit to Mike where it ain’t due and tryin to make arguments that even the biggest Kobe hater can’t get with.
    My second favorite quote of yours:
    ” He doesn’t have a WILL/DRIVE TO WIN. Kobe has a WILL/DIRVE to score. That’s it. You never see him making game winning plays in important games.”
    LMFAO!!!
    Dude has hit 5 gamewinning shots this season, basically carried us to a chip against Indiana back then, just led the squad to a chip last season and u wrote that shit down? Comedy!
    One more thing, I’m a Lakers fan. Kobe’s just flyin the flag right now. I was a Laker fan before Kobe and I’ll be there after him. U rip on Fish or Odom with ridiculous opinions like that, I’ll have shit to say too. Try not to be so bitter that Mike is retired and Kobe’s now. It’s our turn…
    Lakers ALLLLL DAY

  • LakeShow84

    One more thing, I’m a Lakers fan. Kobe’s just flyin the flag right now. I was a Laker fan before Kobe and I’ll be there after him. U rip on Fish or Odom with ridiculous opinions like that, I’ll have shit to say too. Try not to be so bitter that Mike is retired and Kobe’s now. It’s our turn…
    Lakers ALLLLL DAY

  • LakeShow84

    ^^^ Haha and thats the truth ^^^

  • UncheckedAggression

    Man I didn’t realize last night’s game would cause such a stir.

    Here’s what I think some people are trying to say about Kobe: he’s got a stacked team and he’s still playing like there’s nobody he can pass to. The game last night is yet another example of that. Wade (who has much less he can rely on in terms of teammates) kept his team involved and somehow managed to come out on top of a superior team. That’s it. And it won’t happen very often.

    I can understand how defensive Laker fans can be about these situations. After all, Kobe is one of the best players in the league and may be the best scorer of all time (not to mention a number of other strengths he has as a player). Sometimes it appears that Kobe’s teammates aren’t stepping up, which can be incredibly frustrating. But that’s where the problem is. Kobe tends to get tunnel-vision and makes spectators of his team. It’s hard to believe, but goddamnit sometimes he comes out on top that way! Other times this weakness becomes all too obvious to your typical basketball fan–when Kobe loses confidence in his team, they no longer factor into the game the way they are capable of doing. And that is not a positive effect to have on your team.

    I’m sorry to do this at the moment, but I gotta bring up other players. I already mentioned what Wade did last night and how it runs counter to the way Kobe operates. But the reason many fans like Lebron is because he is such a team player. If his teammates are missing shots, he doesn’t ignore them. And they know that now. So even if they aren’t having the best game, they still know that they haven’t lost Lebron’s trust. How else do you think the Cavs are so damn consistent? Until this recent Jameson trade, they were nowhere near the top 3 most talented teams. I know some people will contest that statement, but think about it. Kobe’s team is miles ahead of Lebron’s. Even the Hawks. Joe Johnson had a better supporting cast than Lebron before Jameson.

    I think Kobe’s an amazing player. There are some things that he just doesn’t seem to “get”. At times those things are vital, others not so much. Enjoy watching him because he’s ridiculously talented and drilled to the extreme. It’s just that at times he must still feel like he’s on the court with Kwame, Cook, and company because he goes it alone too often.

    And some of the anti-Kobe comments stem from your typical backlash. The Lakers and their fans will always be disliked by a certain percentage of basketball fans. That’s what happens when a franchise has so much success.

  • http://ihateyou.com Chicagorilla

    @K Dizzle,

    Seriously, I pulled those scenarios off the top of my head, but after watching it on youtube, i’m still sticking by the point that he gave up the ball while not just the game, but the entire series was on the line.

    the reason i point out these finals games is because of the importance of the game. Like i said there were plenty others (MJ’s double nickle game, he hit Bill Wennington for the game winner cause he was doubled) but I focused on 3 game winners from NBA FINALS.

    @Lakeshow, just because you love the Lakers doesn’t mean you have to act like a battered wife who’s husband beats and cheats on her but she stays with him because of…love. Get a grip son. You should know better.

    @unchecked,

    man i’ve been trying to tell them, but they ain’t hearing it. to each his own ya know.

  • LakeShow84

    @ ChiTown

    ?? So you get to act like a 15 year old virgin who got her cherry popped by one nigga and cant accept the next ??

    U over here whining about Kobe taking over the end of a REGULAR SEASON game and acting like last nights game was the defining moment of his career.. Get over it doo.. Like we said..

    Kobe is now.. MJ is the past.. so please put ur thumb in your mouth and call it a night..

  • http://www.slamdunkzone.com/dwyane-wade-and-kobe-bryant-playing-one-on-one/ slam dunk jason

    I don’t think MJ can ever be forgotten, but yes Kobe needs more attention right now. Look after the present and the future will take care of itself. Plus u can’t do a thing to change the past so why keep yakking about it.

  • underated

    Dwyane Wade is deff one ofthe best gaurds in the league. And if u disagree check the stats. He not only scores prolifically but he also passes the ball which only Kobe does when he’s double teamed. All in all solid game by both teams.

  • sporty-j

    I just dont understand Y some of you people on here cannot understand or see people are saying that they like D.Wade and Lebron better than Kobe. Its nothing personal but if you watched Kobe thru out the years of his NBA career. Sometimes he gets what you call “TUNNEL VISION” and makes the game harder than what he really has to. When you have a SHAQ in his prime or even now a GASOL, BYNUM, ODOM, RON ARTEST, and a hell of a bench. You dont have to make the game so hard when you have a HELL OF A TEAM to take all the pressure off of you. Isnt that what he cried for a couple of years ago when he wanted to be traded. Nobody is questioning Kobes greatness. People question if he suffers from a disease that called “I HAVE TO TAKE ALL THE SHOTS”. By the time he decides to pass the ball sometimes, his teammates are cold from standing around watching him do all of that unnecesary dribbling after they have fought so hard for the rebound. All you have to do is look at there faces sometimes. And you wonder Y BYNUM plays like he doesnt care sometimes or y the lakers keep struggling with such a loaded team??? There was no excuse for them to struggle with a Houston Rockets team that were without there best 2 players last year in the playoffs and if you put Lebron James or D.Wade on that team and they would have swept Houston in the playoffs last year and definitely woould not be having the problems that they are having now. Those 2 guys are also scores first like Kobe but they are distributers unlike Kobe and understand that i have to get my teammates envolve if i want to have the most sucess because if im on fire and my teammates are not envolve, when i make that pass to them when the double team comes they are not going to make that shot because i took them all. The Lakers have so many mismatches in basketball that it should be a crime and eligle. Thats all people are trying to say and if you are a true fan of basketball and real person, rather your a Kobe fan or not. You would agree because even the NBA analyts say it, its there for everybody to see, and the Lakers winning without Kobe is a prime example. You guys saw the heat without Wade. Until I see Lebron win a championship with all the pieces Cleveland keeps adding to help him. I will always consider Wade the best because he has shown that if you give him a good team that he can lead them to a top and thats Y i say that Lebron better get that ring this year because next year when Wade has a team you can hang it up. Wade will be rewarded with a good team next year for being such hunble young man and not blasting his franchise for not bringing him any help the past 2 years. Lebron is the second best player if you ask me because he like Wade just get it when it comes to team ball wins you chapionships not one on one play. Kobe is 32 and still doesnt realize that and it makes you wonder if he ever will because lets be honest. He has awesome teammates to clean up his mess when ever the chip goes off in his head to just not pass the ball which hurts his team more than it helps them. Seriously could you imagine D.Wade on that team? You would not have to ever worry about a last second shot like the lakers have numerous times this year to beat the heat, memphis, or whoever because the games would have been blowouts…

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