Jon Scheyer as a shoot guard among NBA players? I just dont see him doing well in that position against 70-80% of NBA player being taller, more physical against him.

I think you made some good points. I agree Steve Blake is a better pg than Scheyer. I think Scheyer, if catches on with an NBA squad will play off the ball a lot, but still have some pg duties.

@Amos

I disagree that Scheyer doesn’t make his team better. That is a ridiculous statement. Of course he does. He is the most important player on that team. He for one has allowed Nolan Smith to shine by being more of a scoring guard. He takes away most of the handling duties from Smith and in turn Nolan has had a very good season. On the same token he has taken scoring pressure off of Singler. Scheyer is more consistent and steady than Vasquez. Even his own coach admits you never know what you will get with Vasquez…but you ride it out with him because he can help you win.

Also, Scheyer and JJ do not have similar games other than being white and good shooters. But, JJ didn’t have any pg duties and only created from the wing or off the ball screen. No offense to Scheyer because he is a good shooter, but JJ was one of the best shooters ever to play college basketball. His senior year he did dominate games. He had one of the more dominate seasons by a college player in recent memory. He averaged nearly 30 a game. If that is not dominate with the type of comp that Duke plays night in and not out I don’t know what is. He also did that while shooting very goo percentages from the floor.

It sounds like you watched Vasquez in person have a huge game and made this statement. Can’t base an argument on one game. You mentioned Aminu, he is a good college player, but not dominant by any stretch. But, he has more upside and most likely be a better pro.

FYI – Vasquez and Scheyer have similar numbers. Vasquez had a 40+ performance which might shift perception. Look at Scheyer’s numbers in some games this year. He has put up some big games. He is like the quiet assassin. Vasquez, needs to let everyone know every time he scores by playing to the crowd. Bottom line it is perception…but in many eyes perception is reality.

does nobody realize that jon scheyer has been a shooting guard his entire career until he was asked to play point guard this year? i can’t help but notice a lot of these responses saying “scheyer would make a good schooting guard,” etc., but that’s what he’d be in the NBA. he’s only a point guard now because he was asked to make the transition when duke needed a point guard this year.

oh yeah, and he did it while having the best assist-to-turnover ratio in the acc.

vasquez has the slight scoring edge, but that’s because duke has so many other scoring options that scheyer is not looked upon to score every basket, much unlike vasquez. he also rebounds more, but he’s taller. he averages 1 more assist than scheyer per game, but also almost 2 more turnovers.

i don’t tend to root for duke or maryland particularly, but i’m a little shocked everyone is so pro-vasquez after yesterday’s game. scheyer had the edge going in (even though slight) and i don’t think vasquez proved himself enough to overtake that. the fact that scheyer matched vasquez statwise (for the most part) on vasquez’s senior night, at home, while the crowd was chanting “f*ck jon scheyer” is a feat it itself. i’d like to see vasquez put up the same numbers at duke. oh wait, when he did play at duke, he was held to only a few points in the first half. when he did finally score the rest of his 17 points, the game was over.

looking at the whole season in its entirety, jon scheyer not only deserves ACC player of the year, he will make a better NBA player.

Vasquez will be playing overseas within four years. He has a lot of the physical abilities that translate to the NBA and somehow gets redonkulous shots to fall. But he’s been playing against chumps for the last four years. I just don’t see his game being effective in the NBA. Regardless, he’ll get a chance to prove me wrong.

It pains me to say this, but Scheyer has a good chance to have a long career in the NBA. Since he is white, we are contractually obligated to compare him to another white point guard. Meaning, my man, Steve Blake. He isn’t nearly as good as a PG as Blake was in college. But he definitely has the chops to develop as a PG in the pros.

Comparing them doesn’t exactly work because Vasquez was supposed to be a SG and ended up at PG. In the NBA, he would be a SG (redonkulous shots). I just don’t see him measuring up. Scheyer only has to run an offense. Which he has done better and better each year. Mind you, I HATE him.

You are obviously just a Duke hater. Check the stats on Duke players drafted since let’s say ’99…only busts (first rounders that did nada) are William Avery and Shelden Williams. All others have contributed. Stats don’t lie. Can’t call JJ a bust because he is contributing for a finals contender. He will be in the league for many years. Whether you like them or not, check stats on players like Boozer, Dunleavy, Maggette, Deng, Battier, Brand, Duhon, etc. These guys have and are putting up pretty decent numbers. Superstars – no…but solid NBA players.

When in fact UNC and MD have had more busts…especially UNC. Felton is the best UNC player drafted since ’99…that is not saying much. Steve Blake is probably the best of this era from MD…again not saying much. What is Sean May doing?? What about Rashad Mccants? What about Brandon Wright? Exactly. Until Harrison Barnes comes in and eventually leaves…that is not changing any time soon.

So give the ol’ Duke players are busts in the league talk a rest as it no longer applies. That is old hat from Duke haters that have nothing to hang on to anymore.

Jon Scheyer has more control and definitely more humbleness that the game needs. He hits the shots that his team needs him to make and he’s versitile with the steals and assists.

Jon Scheyer’s a keeper.