Smack / May 12, 2010 / 5:30 am

Franchise on the Brink

Not trying to take anything away from the Celtics and the completeness of their domination, but Boston’s win last night wasn’t nearly as interesting as Cleveland’s loss. You already knew the story line going into the tiebreaker Game 5 would be whether this was LeBron‘s last home game “deep in the Q,” but you also have to remember what city we’re talking about here. This is potentially one more year where Cleveland had a championship-caliber squad — the Cavs, the Browns, the Indians, Bone Thugs-N-Harmony — and something went terribly wrong on the way to what seemed like a certain ‘chip … Things were fine until the Celtics went on a 15-0 run in the second quarter, capped by Paul Pierce‘s and-one layup. Boston was only up six at halftime, and although LeBron hadn’t yet made a field goal at that time, he’d also spearheaded the defensive effort keeping Rajon Rondo scoreless in the first half. The problem was that with LBJ on Rondo, Candace Parker got lit up by Pierce (21 pts, 11 rebs, 7 asts). Then Ray Allen (25 pts, 6 threes) opened the second half with consecutive triples, Rondo (16 pts, 7 asts) finally got on the board, and midway through the third quarter it was a 15-point Celtics lead. That was around the same time LeBron got his first field goal, a breakaway dunk. He would only make two more shots the rest of the game. By the time it was over, the Celtics had a 30-piecing while LBJ and the Cavs were getting booed at home … Not even Big Z getting some tick was enough to spark the Cavs. He had 5 points and 4 blocks in a few minutes off the bench, and his and-one banker over Shelden Williams was probably the most athletic move he’s made since the Cavs were rocking the black and blue spray-paint unis … Funny coincidence when the cameras showed Z, Mike Finley and Dr. Jack Ramsay all in succession. Combined age of that trio? About 203 years old … So now LeBron (15 pts, 3-14 FG) is on the brink of another earlier-than-expected playoff exit, the Cavs are on the brink of another playoff disappointment, and Cleveland is on the brink of a really bad summer. And a lot of people are pleased about this. It’s weird: When Michael Jordan got beat year after year before 1991, and when Kevin Garnett had his championship hopes continually dashed before 2008, it seemed like the general consensus among basketball fans was to feel bad for them. People wanted to see Mike and KG get that ring. With LeBron, it’s like so many people are taking pleasure in his losses, and last night was another moment to pounce on him and laugh. If you’re one of those people, do us a favor and explain that line of thinking. Is LeBron just unlikeable compared to Jordan and Garnett? … Now it’s not like the Cavs are dead yet. (It only feels like it.) That said, have you thought about the potential NBA Finals matchups we’ve still got on the table? Each one is interesting for its own reasons: Lakers/Celtics is the historic rivalry; Lakers/Cavs pits the two best players in the world against each other in what will be the highest-rated series ever; Lakers/Magic is the always-fun Finals rematch; Suns/Celtics is the flashback to the ’76 Finals which featured arguably the greatest NBA game of all-time; and Suns/Cavs means one suffering superstar will finally get that elusive ring. The only one that’s kind of “eh” is Suns/Magic, which might be noteworthy because Shaq could show up to all seven games and get booed by every person in each building … And you thought the craziest sports story you’d hear this week was the one about Ken Griffey Jr. reportedly taking a nap in the Seattle Mariners clubhouse while manager Don Wakamatsu was looking for him to pinch-hit. (Wakamatsu denied the report, Griffey kinda-sorta denied it, and two anonymous M’s players were quoted confirming it.) But then Hasheem Thabeet got involved. According to numerous reports out of Memphis, Thabeet was recently at a club in Tanzania when he got into a fight with R&B singer T.I.D. (no relation to T.I.) and knocked dude out. Or as one story put it, “the 7-foot big man bounced him like a basketball.” Thabeet’s agent claims there was no fight, but come on. How many 7-foot-3 guys were at that club? Either you’re saying everybody made it up, or it’s a case of mistaken identity. And last we checked, Arvydas Sabonis is well into the “old guy at the club” phase of his life and probably wasn’t out kicking it like that … We’re out like Cleveland’s margin for error …

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220 Responses to “Franchise on the Brink”

  1. Orickle says:

    um, u mean anthony parker

  2. Hawkeye says:

    Personally, i just don’t like lebron. Don’t get me wrong, i think he is loaded with talent and probably the best player in the league. But it’s the way he conducts himself as a professional, hell as a decent human being that ticks me off. Because let’s be completely honest here: he’s very arrogant, disrespectful and full of himself. He doesn’t carry himself with any class and has the nerve to call himself the greatest when he hasn’t proven a damn thing. The king title has got to go unless he either dominates the L the way chamberlain did or win more rings than mike. Right now, he’s just a punk who’s bought into all the bs that the media’s been feeding him. Ok, i’m done now.

  3. Badger says:

    Um, I think they were joking about Parker. But shit, Candace would have done a better job guarding Pierce.

  4. face says:

    orickle,

    tongue in cheek man. of course they meant anthony. but candace is the more popular, more skilled sibling.

    if you’ve read dimemag enough times, you know they’re sarcastic like that.

  5. Mcw88 says:

    vastly different situation with mj and kg,
    1. MJ was like Lebron except that he was genuine and gave a damn every game. Its the playoffs man, you are suppose to look like u give a damn every game. For MJ, the perception was that he loved the game, for Lebron it feels more impersonal, like Lebron the global icon was his priority, not winning (like he claims) a championship

    2. I think the same thing can be said abt KG, he wears his emotions on his sleeves and u could tell that when he lost repeatly in the 1st round, it took alot out of him. Winning a ring for KG represented for ppl, that if you just keep working hard eventually you will get urs.

  6. common sense says:

    Cleavland’s obituary ‘lebron James nov 03 – may 10, survived by his teamates, anderson vagina, mike ‘retard’ brown and shaq’s corpse’.. ‘suki suki’ now lebron. time to send the cavs back to the flinstones era by bolting ‘what up fred’. this excuse for a team don’t deserve you. they had mike brown coaching you all these years, they deserve it. nuff sed. ground hog day, shit gets tired.

    man its the 2010 free agent elections and i’m voting for james and vice president wade. maybe it should be the other way round. wade as the pres, seeing as hes got the hardware and i’m sure he’d do a better job with this cleavland team than the ‘king’.

    lebron needs to renounce his throne….

  7. darkdefender says:

    Agree with hawkeye

    LBJ is a terrific player, no doubt, and for sure the MVP, but the dancing & showboating when the crabs are winning, and the poor sportsmanship (refusing to shake hands) when they’re losing make him out to be a jerk.

    For the record, I’m also anti-cavs bc I’d hate to see Shaquille ride the coattails to another ring. He won three legitimately, then he made a special guest appearance for the fourth.

  8. mrparker says:

    Mike and KG were never annointed. That has got to be at least part of it. Also routing for Lebron is kind of like routing for Shaq in his prime. The guy is just too big and fast for anyone. We’re really only left to route for LBJ to overcome his teammates.

    Tonite, I kept waiting for LBJ to take the game over but that just isn’t his game. He wasn’t feeling it and tried to get his teammates involved and he did go to the ft line 12 times while also grabbing 6 boards and dropping 7 assists. His off nights are still above average. However, the Cav’s backcourt continues to contribute zilch.

    Tomorrow should be christened an official hater’s holiday.

    Can’t wait to see what happens in game 6.

  9. Badger says:

    Everything LeBron gets flak for, Jordan and KG and other popular superstars did the same or worse.

    - Not shaking hands? Isiah Thomas, Joe Dumars.
    - Dancing/celebrating during a win? Magic Johnson, Dwight Howard.
    - Not taking over enough in crunch time? Kevin Garnett, David Robinson.

    I mean damn, Jordan punched his own teammates and constantly undermined his coach. Pippen refused to go into a game cause he didn’t get the last shot drawn up for him. Kobe gave up during playoff games, and went entire games trying to “make a point” to his coach by not being aggressive on purpose. Stockton and Malone used dirty tricks and choked in the clutch consistently. Larry Bird threw his teammates under the bus to the media.

    My point is all of those guys had their flaws and made mistakes, but it doesn’t seem to hurt their legacy now. For the most part, everybody respects them at least, if not loves them. But every little mistake and flaw LeBron has, people jump on it and never get over it.

  10. Mcw88 says:

    Yeah i agree with Hawkeye. Dude should stop referring to himself in 3rd person

    @8
    Shaq was more charismatic (and vindictive when he wants to be) so it felt easier to root for the big fella

  11. slimebucket says:

    I like Lebron but he needs to actually work on his game. He needs to post up, run around screens, do something else other than predictably try to get fouled going to the basket. I just can’t imagine Dwade mailing in the last 2 games like Lebron did. If he has a bad shooting night then try to play monster D. Last night’s game was so bad it leaves a bad taste in your mouth that he got the MVP. Well in any case even if the Cavs comeback which is really unlikely there is no way the Cavs could beat the remaining Suns, Lakers, or Magic because those are better teams with heart. I am still a fan of his but last night’s game showed a real ugly side of LBJ. Hopefully he has some real friends and family to smack him upside the head. I have to say worst performance by a ‘superstar’ player because of the obvious quit by LBJ. Worse even than Kobe in Game 7 against the Suns.

  12. Pais says:

    @Badger – you miss the point, the question is why? Why do people love to hate LBJ? And Hawkeye got it, it’s that sense of entitlement combined with him being a douche. Darkdefender & Mrparker also make good points. Every other player had redeeming qualities, LBJ, not so much.

  13. Caderade says:

    LBJ may be a spoiled douche, but so are MJ and KG. Personally, I would have been fine if none of them ever won a championship.

  14. Badger says:

    Because Jordan and Kobe don’t have a sense of entitlement, right? Are KG and Bird not douches too? (And let’s not even get into the shit Magic, Kobe, Dwight, Malone and those guys are doing OFF the court.) People act like LeBron nicknamed himself “King James.” Like he wrote his own commercials and produced is own SportsCenter segments. He didn’t create the overhype. And how can you say he has no redeeming qualities when everybody who plays with him loves him? When has LeBron ever been in trouble with the law or in some messy off-court drama? But Jordan is a great guy, sure.

  15. Dayo says:

    Honetsly, I was SHOCKED to see the way Lebron played yesterday!!! It was like dude couldn’t give a damn one way or the other what happened in that game! Or (GULP!!!) maybe he wants to use the game as a lever to go all out and dominate the celtics in the last two games of the series so we can all brag about how “The King” rescued a season on the brink for the cavs.
    I’ve watched a whole lot of cavs games, but I really think last nights’ game was the first when I felt the cavs would have performed better had Lebron stayed home during the game, put his feet up, and had a couple of cold beers! I mean on multiple possessions, he did not come to the ball, and the ball handler kept overhandling at the top of the key, waiting for Lebron to make a move! At other times when Lebron got the ball early in the shot clock, he overhandled, and then threw up an ugly brick even after realising that his jumper was off.
    I agree with post 11, the performance was right up (or should that be down) there with “worst performance” by a superstar player!

  16. RapTOr says:

    LeBron has the skill and numbers to back up his habits, even if they are ‘unprofessional’ at times. If that’s him just expressing himself and being real, then I support the guy. You don’t know him, so dont come on here acting like you do… calling him names and shit when you’ve only observed him when he was under the emotional states tha come naturally with wins and losses. Actually, you know what, the f@ck with all of you. It looks like the commish has actually brainwashed the fans into this whole professionalism bullshit too.

    People love to hate him because he is the best, but he doesn’t fit into some fabricated status quo. He deserves to be cocky. Y’all just mad cus he stylin on you (and everyone else he plays against).

    Im done now.

  17. QQ says:

    Damn, with all these answers, that move to be a smartass sure backfired Dime.

    I agree with the cats here.

    Lebron was anointed. By the media, by pundits, by everyone. By YOU. Yes, YOU Dime. Hyperbiased publications like you pour on all the adulation to this athletic and brilliant player that he can achieve anything because everything is given. Yes, he still works hard, but not AS hard as all those you compare him with. Kobe worked hard to prove all his haters wrong, and boy was he HATED. MJ accomplished his first chip BEFORE being anointed, with the bruises from the Bad Boys and with the irk of veteran sportswriters who say he’s just an athletic kid that can’t lead his team.

    Lebron NEVER fucking had those hardships in the NBA. The moment he stepped into an NBA court, he’s automatically the King. The moment he stepped into the court, publications like this one salivated all over Lebron: The Next Big Thing.

    Basketbawful said it right (I know yall read that site because an you post an awful lot of stuff originally from there):

    …His attitude is grating at times (though I do try to give him a pass sometimes because I have never been in his shoes. How would you act and think if you spent your entire life being told and reaffirmed that you are the greatest, etc.?)…

    The only thing wrong from that statement is: ‘I try to give him a pass’. IT’S TIME TO STOP MAKING PASSES. This is his legacy. It’s put up or shut up. He’s been acting like he’s the best ever but understand, he was SUPPOSED to dominate these playoffs, and last year, for that matter.

    He didn’t. So, it’s time to stop making excuses and passes now. It’s time to just shut up, and realize ‘hey, we’ve been riding this player’s dick for a LOONG time now. But every single time, there’s always a sense of letdown…. Let’s just cut this shit’.

    All the ‘no shaking hands’, the ‘I could be a scoring leader every year if i want’, all the excess. It’s time to just shut up now.

    Now Dime, all of your army has spoken.

    Convinced yet????????

  18. gilford22 says:

    Well said hawkeye, James is too arrogant to be a champion. All he cares about is about becoming a global icon.

    I think he sees basketball as a business not a sport, he doesn’t even respect the game.

  19. thurber says:

    Hey hey,

    I’ve been a Celtic hater for quite some time but I’m shocked to find myself cheering for them in this series. Maybe it’s the aging of the Big 3 or the recent emergence of Rondo, but either way I can’t root for Lebron.

    1. The Media – Whether it’s puppets or nicknames like “The King” we’ve been getting Lebron shoved down our throats more violently and frequently than HeatherIdeepthroat the past few years.

    2. Hope – Hope that Lebron leaves the Cavs. If Lebron wins it all he’ll stay in Cleveland and aim for a dynasty. If he loses, the build up and anxiety this summer would be more exciting than Lebron winning it all. I know he’s not coming to my team, he’s probably not going to yours either, but it’s the fun of speculating and coming up with ludicrous predictions which we enjoy. Here’s one. A cancer ridden and near death Paul Allen breaks the bank with Phil Knight and brings him to Portland. See? Completely crazy… but so much fun!

    3. Schadenfreude – Let’s face it, Lebron has had it made since the beginning.. and we’re jealous. If that isn’t lucky enough for one person this elbow malfunction was his first real injury in the pros! Shit.. I get more injuries playing air hockey high. I take pleasure knowing he struggles to obtain championships as much I struggle to obtain any number of things in my own life on a daily basis.. like a cheeseburger, or a job, or even a new pair of shoes. We’re all human Lebron, so f**k off.

  20. common sense says:

    man, lol at all the haters. lebrons human, has his bad and good side but mostly the good wins over.

    but his performances the last two games, simply poor. I think he is trying to set us up for a dramatic comeback because it does appear that he has a flair for the dramatic. and ironically enough, lebron is heavily involved in his own marketing and hype creation so he does deserve criticism for his part to play in the hyperbowl. he does view himself as a global icon and has stated he wants to become a sporting billionaire. this doesn’t detract from what he does on the court but it allows people to question his true motives.

    the thing that grinds me the most about lbj is the way the refs treat him. he gets such special treatment that it’s safe to say that their is a mandate from stern to allow lbj more leeway than any other player in the league with regards to those travelling, charging calls that go in his favour.

  21. jimmyjack says:

    @QQ — Great post. But most of what you said was utter bullshit.

    1. LeBron hasn’t dominated in the playoffs? He AVERAGED like 37-8-8 in the Orlando series last year. How much more was he supposed to do? He’s AVERAGING 29-8-7 in this year’s playoffs. Who else is doing that much for their team?

    2. How do you know if LeBron has or hasn’t worked harder than other great players? Are you in the gym with him in the summertime? Are you at Cavs practice? Or are you just spitting out guesses from your ass?

    3. “MJ accomplished his first chip BEFORE being anointed.” You’re fucking nuts. Air Jordan was anointed, slurped up, salivated on, hyped, overhyped, and fellated by media WAY before he won his first chip. You must be too young to remember anything before 1990.

    4. I’m tired of idiots who give LeBron grief for his nickname. First of all, it’s not like he came up with it himself. (Kobe on the other hand…) And you tell me the last athlete who got a nickname and pleaded with the public “No thanks, don’t call me that.” When something sticks, it sticks.Second of all, “King James” was only convenient because of the historic nod. If you don’t know, King James was an actual person. His name is on the Bible. If LeBron’s name was “LeBron Smith,” his nickname wouldn’t be “King Smith.” It just worked out that way because the nick fit his real name. So calm the fuck down.

    5. “Stop making free passes.” Why not? The guy is only 25. Jordan didn’t win a title until he was 28. Kobe didn’t win a title as the best player on his own team until he was past 30. But LeBron doesn’t get any time to learn, go through the hard knocks, and develop? Nobody is in “put up or shut up” mode when they’re still 25. You’ll remember that when your boy Dwight Howard is still ringless at 30.

  22. Nasty says:

    It doesnt surprise me that the Cavs are down in this seriesIf they didnt spend their entire season goofing around, focusing on their team intros or what strange hand gesture they are going to make to the crowd after they get a dunk or a three, they might fair a little better when faced with adversity.

    Its nice to see that KG is officially back after a 2 year absence from the stat sheet

  23. Mayan Mike says:

    It was NOT the elbow. It was NOT a choke job. It WAS , however, very obvious that we saw the betrayal of a King against his people. Last night will go down as the day LeBron became a Knick. He was recruited by the words of one Spike Lee. Conspiracy theorists… play wit it!

  24. QQ says:

    Yes I’ll remember my boy when he still has no ring. You know why? Cause my boy wasn’t given everything. On draft day, columnists were doubting Orlando for picking a high school kid over an accomplished collegian named Emeka Okafor. It’s ‘why take a chance in a youngster when a dominant college center is at your reach’. My boy was NEVER anointed. So even if he’ll never won a chip, my boy didn’t have the consensus ‘He’ll be the BEST CENTER EVER’, I can breathe easy cos he became a beast, even with all the hate.

    Can yall say the same thing with Bron?

    And puhlease. It’s now the point where Bron HAS to win the chip. You can throw away all the stats at me, and I’ll just say ‘Championships = 0′. It’s supposed to be HIS year. Actually, it started last year. Last year was supposed to be Bron Bron Bron. What happened? Nothing happened. Yall been giving it to him every single time, yall been saying it’s ‘his year’ every fucking time, but the truth is, kid still aint a champion.

    Bottomline: The hype he was given was reserved for champions. Lebron ISN’T a champion. Do the fucking math.

  25. Reno says:

    So if Lebron was to finish his career with no title, would he be considered a bust!?!

  26. That's What's Up says:

    “A Lebron James team never panics” – Lebron James

  27. jimmyjack says:

    Wasn’t 2008 supposed to be Kobe’s year? What happened there? Wasn’t 2005 and 2006 supposed to be Steve Nash’s year? Wasn’t 2004 supposed to be the Lakers (Kobe-Shaq-GP-Malone) or KG’s year? Wasn’t 2003 supposed to be J-Kidd’s year? Wasn’t 1993 supposed to be Barkley’s year?

    So because the media and fans decide one team is supposed to win a title, when they don’t win, then it’s the star player who let us all down? It’s the star player who choked against expectations that he didn’t even create? We can say this was supposed to be LeBron’s year, but get real. Look at his supporting cast and compare it to the Lakers. Winning a title this year would have been an accomplishment against the odds for LeBron, not LeBron cruising like the 96 Bulls.

    And again, look at LeBron’s numbers. 37-8-8 in the ECF last year. 29-8-7 in the playoffs this year. You’re really gonna say he’s not doing all he can to win the championship? Your boy Dwight can’t even stay out of foul trouble or make a damn free throw, but you’re gonna criticize LeBron’s postseason chops? OK…

  28. That's What's Up says:

    Now, no question, LeDouche will bolt out of Cleveland. And you know what, with leaving he buys himself 2-3 more years of excuses not to win the title. He’ll have the “new team” excuse, the “re-building” excuse, the “get me some players” excuse – all the ones he’s already used in Cleveland. Truth is his best option is to stay with the guys he’s been playing with for years and make his team better, and do it in the post-season.

  29. JAY says:

    I’ll keep this short and sweet.

    KG was the People’s Champ.
    Michael was a Champion’s Champion.

    Lebron is his own Champion. That “King” moniker has to go.

  30. QQ says:

    ‘Look at his supporting cast and compare it to the Lakers.’

    DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMN.

    Look at all you cats. You never talk shit when they were winning, then yall compare the supporting cast when yall down 3-2.

    Ok I’ll look at the supporting cast, and what I see is the a fucking deep team that has talent in every position. Daammit. Can’t you fucking see it? The Cavs are a TALENTED team. Don’t make the ‘supporting cast’ argument all you retards are using whenever Bron’s experience a loss?

    When they were winning 60 games this year and last year, ain’t no one of you fools talking bout how inept the role players are. All you see is Bron finally winning the chip after having reliable players on his side.

    Now, they’re down 3-2. it’s this all over again.

    ‘Look at his supporting cast’.

    EXCUSES: The name of the game when the superstar who were supposed to win it all AIN’T winning shit… AGAIN.

    Damn if I have the same affinity for excuses as these Bron apologists, I would have never spent a single minute in detention.

  31. jimmyjack says:

    Yes, look at the supporting cast.

    The Cavs handled their business in the regular season, but as you should know as an Orlando fan, the playoffs are a different animal (Nick Anderson). In the playoffs, where the fuck has Mo Williams been? Where is Delonte West? Where is JJ Hickson? Where is Anthony Parker? The guys who were getting it done when there was no pressure are failing to get it done now, so fuck “talent,” I’m talking about production when it matters.

    On the flip side, the Celtics are winning because their guys are producing. They struggled at times in the regular season, but Ray and KG and Rondo and Pierce and even Big Baby are stepping it up in the playoffs. Same for the Lakers. Gasol, Fisher, Bynum, Odom have all played well in the playoffs and complemented Kobe well.

    Excuses are one thing, reality is another. The Nets sucking because they don’t have enough good players isn’t an excuse, it’s reality. The Cavs not playing up to their potential because LeBron’s supporting cast again fails to step it up in the playoffs is reality.

  32. vince says:

    kg nor mj were named the king or the goat before they got a ring

  33. JAY says:

    @ Jimmyjack
    Stop pointing out stats. Stats don’t mean shit. He’s a great passer but he doesn’t know how to use his teammates yet. I don’t need to explain that if you truly know ball. Michael’s postseason numbers were similar but he didn’t accomplish anything in the playoffs until he made a commitment to use his teammates. Mike has said it in interviews. Once he committed himself to making his teammates better is when he started winning championships.

  34. robmo35 says:

    Sure Jordan and KG are arrogant as well, but what made them compelling champions is that they had to face some adversity. Jordan had a season ending injury, was beaten regularly by the bad boys in Detroit, and had to make the difficult transition from gunner to team leader.

    KG toiled on some terrible teams in Minnesotta early in his career, and then put players on his back to achieve early playoff exits for 11 seasons.

    Lebron has just kind of showed up and said, “I’m the best. Where’s my ring?” He really has to go through some trying times before he becomes a popular favorite.

  35. QQ says:

    ‘Winning a title this year would have been an accomplishment against the odds for LeBron, not LeBron cruising like the 96 Bulls.’

    All I could do is laugh at that statement.

    Are you living in the same year as I am?

    Cause seriously that’s a retarded statement.

    What the hell is wring with you apologists? This year is the year he is SUPPOSED to win the chip. No fucking excuses now. No one to stop Dwight? Solved: Shaq. Need another scorer? Solved: a blockbuster deal to get Jamison. Role players to shoot 3s? Solved: Parker and Williams.

    Best record in the NBA. The TEAM to beat

    It’s HIS year. He was SUPPOSED to cruise. He was given everything and anything to win. Don’t fucking make stories that it’s ‘against the odds’. They were THE fucking team to beat going into the playoffs. What odds are you talking about?

  36. Dapro says:

    I’m 50/50 with Bron

    Yes the media has created a larger than life character and James has feed into it. He needs to lose this series, it’s better for the NBA and his career. He was handed the title of best player in the league before he truly earned it. I hated Kobe but the past few seasons Ive learned to respect his game because he competes and has earned his way to the top. Bron although he he might be a good person seems fabricated and calculated. The past two maybe three seasons he has changed on and off the court and became a characture. That combined with the constant media lovefest makes him public enemy #1.

    Mike took his lumps and no one gave him the mantle. The media and “experts” questioned whether he could win the chip early in his career.

    Same thing for Shaq. Many said he wasn’t focused enough, too many movies, not taking basketball serious.

    Both Mike and Shaq became better due to the early harships in their career. Same with Bron, he has to be humbled to see what it takes to be the best.

  37. JAY says:

    @#31
    “Excuses are one thing, reality is another.”

    The role players lean on their star to step up. Not the other way around. FYI, last night was a HOME GAME. Stop making excuses for Lebron. Mike took the blame when the Bulls lost. Magic, Isiah, Bird, Barkley etc… if you are the star, that’s your team. The Cavs are a talented team, period. They have Mr. MVP on their squad. You don’t think they felt a little dissapointed that their rock didn’t show up last night?? How do you think that wore on them mentally??

    Once again… “”Excuses are one thing, reality is another.”"

  38. jimmyjack says:

    Stop looking at the team on paper and look at what’s actually happening. Yeah, Parker and Mo are supposed to hit threes. But they’re not hitting right now in the playoffs. Shaq is supposed to stop Dwight. They haven’t played Orlando yet, so that’s a moot point. Jamison is supposed to be the other scorer. He’s been inconsistent at best in these playoffs. You’re looking at names on a roster and not the play on the court.

  39. common sense says:

    @28, people who blame lebron for cleavland not winning a chip are shameful. the guy plays hard (except for the last two games), and his post season production is second to non.

    why do people always ignore the ‘elephant in the room’. it’s starring you right in the face. Cleavland’s O is so ‘turrible’. really, the O stagnates so often. it involves give the ball to lebron and hope. for the most part lebron can handle this burden but when faced with talented defensive TEAM like Boston then the shortcomings of this system is exposed.

    just ask the great Wade. one man can only do so much. you might say that he has a supporting cast this year. thats true. but when all they’re asked to do is stand around and watch then they might as well have not bothered.

    and people criticize lebron. how about apportioning some of that blame for the cleavland coaching staff especially mike brown.

  40. Ekstor says:

    Whether true or not, the perception is that MJ and KG were all heart without the sufficient supporting cast to help get them to the finals. Both were underdogs most years that they were eliminated in the playoffs. This year could be the second in which LBJ fails to make the finals when his team was considered a legit contender to win it all.

    Refusing to shake hands? MJ was seen as having an excuse with the bad blood between the Bulls and Pistons. LBJ’s excuse?

    As for the dancing, most other players I see dance do it out of emotion when celebrating plays. LBJ’s dancing is perceived as being less celebratory and more self-indulgent.

    Finally… and this is admittedly unfair to LBJ… because of his physical gifts, he’s seen in a similar light as Shaq in being viewed as the big bully that people enjoy see losing. Neither MJ nor Pre-Celtic KG were seen in that way.

  41. QQ says:

    Reality? The reality is if Bron is indeed the best in the world, he could elevate his teammates whatever happens.

    Your argument has now been fucking negated by using the supporting cast excuse. He had the DEEPEST team possible so fuck that argument.

    Yes fuck that argument. You know why? Cause even if he has Wade, Amare, Melo, that kid who did a 720 dunk, and Chris Paul on his team, when Bron doesn’t win, yall always use the ‘BUT HIS SUPPORTING CAST’ argument everytime. EVERY FUCKING TIME. But when they win, it’s ‘Bron elevates his teammates to be the best’.

    So yeah, fuck that argument.

  42. Alee-Mo says:

    I think what Dime is trying to say is that these ARE those “hardship years” and “trying times” for LeBron, but people are treating him like he’s a career choker. These years are his Detroit Bad Boys, his carrying Minnesota. But when MJ and KG lost it was like “Oh man I hope KG gets his ring some day.” When LeBron loses cats are like “Yeah I hate that fucker LeChoke. LOL!” Maybe it’s backlash for the media giving him too much leeway, but the fans (at least snarky Internet fans) aren’t giving him ANY leeway.

  43. mAMba says:

    LeBust can avg 50-15-12 for the playoffs. It wont matter cause he will NEVER win a ring because he doesn`t have the killer instinct MJ had or Kobe has. You never see them marketing themselves as much as LBJ or dancing during games or doing stupid handshakes with teammates. Having fun is all good, but if LBJ wants to win, he has to stop trying to make everybody like him and just do his job.

  44. JAY says:

    I’m surprised Lebron supporters haven’t brought up his “ailing elbow” as an excuse for last night.

  45. Spliff 2 My Lou says:

    I’m with Mayan Mike post #23. Not only did Lebroff betray his team last night he took it one step further. He threw the game. No joke. He actually threw the game. I have never thought he was leaving Cleveland but now I think he’s gone. After throwing that game last night Lebroff made it clear he’s giving up on the Cavs. Cleveland fans deserved better.

    Congratulations New York. It will be fun cheering against you and Lebroff next season.

  46. jimmyjack says:

    “He had the DEEPEST team possible so fuck that argument.”

    Are you drinking right now? You’re gonna tell me the 2010 Cleveland Fucking Cavaliers are the deepest team in the NBA? Shaq is a part-time player, Jamison passed his prime three years ago, Mo Williams is just a younger Derek Fisher, Big Z is like 50 years old, Moon is all vertical no IQ, Delonte and Parker and Varejao haven’t done SHIT in this year’s playoffs. Oh, and Mike Brown is a worse offensive coach than some high school coaches.

    But yeah, that’s definitely a team that’s deeper than the Lakers or Celtics.

  47. JAY says:

    Great quote on another site…
    “Did Michael ever failed so passively??”

  48. QQ says:

    @ 42:

    I guess you answered your question. We’re all tired of the entitlement the media is giving Bron. It’s SO HARD to root for him if its always ‘hes the best ever’ and then he doesnt even reach the Finals. He’s as brilliant and as talented as any other player in history, but the overbearing hype and the way he would like to languish in it makes it SOOO FUCKING HARD to root for the guy.

  49. fallinup says:

    Whatever Dime. You aint making me feel guilty for shit. I just heard this old interview of Lebron on the radio. It was a simple question… to a simple lady that didn’t know a lick of basketball. It was something like, how handle te pressure so well coming out of high school right into the NBA… and Lebron said without even a chuckle… “Because I’m the chosen one”….. I turned that shit off right then and there.

    You come into the league already anointed by the media… and of course you aint disputing it… YOU GOT KING TATTOOED ON YOU FRIGGIN ARM ALREADY. PUH LEEZE, Dime… you aint making no one here feel bad about watching that prick choke again.

    Don’t even try to compare this douche with Jordan… or even Garnett for that matter until he wins himself a friggin ring. I’m over that shit. So don’t be getting pissed at REAL Basketball fans that see all this talent… and all of this athleticism… and ALL THIS DROOLING FROM THE MEDIA.

    Don’t hate on us for knowing what’s up better than you guys. You guys make money off this shit… we live it because we love it. Respect the game… and that goes right to you Lebron.

  50. fallinup says:

    And another thing… when a washed up 37 year old proven champ scores more points than you in a crucial game 5… YOU AINT NO FRIGGIN KING. Plain and simple.

    Learn how to earn that crown before you walk around struttin that shit.

  51. jimmyjack says:

    @Mamba — “It wont matter cause he will NEVER win a ring because he doesn’t have the killer instinct MJ had or Kobe has. You never see them marketing themselves as much as LBJ”

    You do know that your boy Kobe GAVE HIMSELF the very nickname you’re using? Isn’t that self-marketing? And what the fuck does off-court OFF-SEASON marketing have to do with playoff basketball? Are you saying LeBron isn’t winning because he’s cutting commercials during the playoffs? Was he distracted because he had a meeting with Nike at halftime last night? That’s the dumbest shit I ever heard.

    And LeBron doesn’t have a killer instinct? Go back and count the game-winning shots. Look at what he did against Chicago this year. Look at what he did against Boston in Game 3. Shit, LeBron showed his killer instinct against Orlando last year when he was hitting game-winners, clutch free throws and putting up Oscar Robertson numbers on the regular. Get the f outta here with that killer instinct argument.

  52. JAY says:

    @jimmyjack

    You are really ridiculous. QQ had it right. Stop using his teammates as an excuse. His team is stacked, whether you want to admit it or not. It’s basically the same team that made the Eastern Conference Final last year with the addition of Shaq and Jamison. They can play small ball, go with a big line-up, fast or play a perimeter team. Your argument is like arguing that grass is red.

    “Excuses are one thing, reality is another.” <– in case ou didn't realize, that is your quote. Step into reality bud. You're making too many bullshit excuses.

  53. QQ says:

    @ 46:

    Again, were you here talking shit bout the Cavs when they were winning? Seriously? No, you’re here now cause you have to find something else to blame the loss other than Lebron.

    Can someone else put some thought into this fool? Yall acting like the Cavs are a weak ass team, but when they were cruising yall aint talking shit. It’s always like that with you fucking dick riders.

    And don’t even talk bout the Celts, cause you’re surely gave up on them too. They’re still the same old ass team,only difference is that they AINT anointed so they keep playing their ass off to prove people wrong.

    The Cavs are supposed to win the chip. No ifs or buts. You made enough excuses. Stop reaching.

  54. QQ says:

    @ JAY:

    Thanks for putting some though into that fool before you even read ‘please put some thought into this fool’.

    @ fallinup

    ‘Don’t hate on us for knowing what’s up better than you guys. You guys make money off this shit… we live it because we love it. Respect the game… and that goes right to you Lebron.’

    Dammit man, that’s the most beautiful thing I saw today.I have to post that in my wall soon. LOL.

  55. Tee says:

    I’ll tell you what the problem with LBJ is. He hasn’t won anything yet and people are saying he is the best player ever. And this “King James” nick name is putting people off. Can we at least wait until he wins ONE game in the NBA Finals before we annoint him the best ever? It might not be as much him as it is the media and the over hype they give him. I mean ESPN shows the shot where he won game two in last years Eastern Finals like it was a NBA Finals Game 7 game winner.

    If he were not “King James” and were just LeBron then he would be more liked. He needs to earn that title and as of yet, he has not.

  56. Spliff 2 My Lou says:

    Great quote found by JAY post 47. MJ never failed so passively as Lebroff did last night. Because he threw the game!

  57. fallinup says:

    jimmyjack needs to get his head out Lebron’s ass. There aint no blaming your team mates for 3 for 14. Look at that stat for a second and let it sink in. SHAQ got more points than you with less shots. Hell, I’m more shocked that he only took 14 shots. You can’t blame no fucking teammates for that.

    Give it, up jimmyjack.. it was the Cavs year.. now their on the brink from a Celts team a lot have picked as WASHED UP.

  58. common sense says:

    lol @8 mrparker, you said it best,

    “Tomorrow should be christened an official hater’s holiday”,
    so true, lol…

  59. That's What's Up says:

    “A LEBRON JAMES TEAM NEVER PANICS !!!! EVERYTHING IS OKAY !!!!! NOTHING IS WRONG !!!!! A LEBRON JAMES TEAM N-E-V-E-R PANICS !!!! ” – Lebron James

  60. JAY says:

    @#53
    Nobody can talk sense into that dude. If he thinks the Cavs are a bad team, then in his mind they are a bad team. Nothing you can do about it. No matter how idiotic his arguments are. It’s unfortunate he thinks he knows ball.

    @jimmyjack
    One more question, how many other teams can play as many lineups as the Cavs can?? I’ll help you out… no other team has the diversity on their roster as the Cavs do. In other words, they are a deep team.

  61. johnny says:

    Dime, I don’t care about Lebron. I’m just mad at you for that weak reason why a Suns/Celts Finals would be exciting. Because it’s a rematch of ’76? Seriously? Wow, I sure hope that happens!

    AND, cuz you think Suns/Magic would NOT be exciting and those are the only 2 teams left that I don’t hate.

    Proceed…

  62. sh!tfaced says:

    What’s not to hate about LeDouche?

    Arrogant. Narcissistic. Insecure. Pathetic. Loser.
    Doesn’t know the meaning of overrated.

    - Unsportsmanlike (The handshake)
    - Bad sport (The Crawford facial video incident)
    - Disrespectful winner (Lefty Freethrow)
    - His fundamentals (The Crab Dribble)
    - Makes excuses (The LeElbow)
    - Unoriginal (The talcum powder pre-game ritual)
    - The nicknames (Chosen One, The King)
    - Douchebag (wears his own stupid tees ‘Witness’, ‘LBJ MVP’, ‘check my stats’)
    - The 3rd person BS talk
    - Mama’s boy
    - Some of his fans are fucking annoying
    - He plays in Cleveland

  63. Celts Fan says:

    Wow! That’s all I got on last night. Never expected to be in this situation, though it’s far from over.

    and people don’t like LeBron cuz he can come off as arrogant (even Kobe didn’t keep showing up to pressers with “Mamba” stitched into a different sweater each night,) and has been fawned over by the media for so long. Also, people may be rooting for him to loose, cuz each L pushes him closer to NY or Chi or Mia or wherever. Personally, I just root against him cuz he’s a rival and openly doesn’t like the Celtics, though I don’t have any problem w/ him as a person and love watching him play.

    BUT last night was a pretty gigantic bad game. He settled for jumpers waaaay too much. If they lose this series, the whispers of “choke artist” and “can’t win the big game” will – IMO unfairly – start popping up despite the fact he dragged an under-manned Cavs team to the ’07 Finals. The King will get a ring eventually, but it’s time to dead even the possibility of Top 5 GOAT status (or even passing Kobe in the top 10 ever) if he doesn’t win something soon. We forget, but he’s almost half way through his career (7 years in, 27 years old.)

    BUT again, this series is far from over. I’m TERRIFIED of (and almost expecting) a motivated and PO’d LeBron dropping 60 on us on Thursday…

  64. QQ says:

    @ 61:

    Add ‘jimmijack’s arguments’ to that.

  65. jimmyjack says:

    I didn’t say the Cavs are a bad team, I said LeBron’s supporting cast isn’t stepping up in the playoffs. QQ and JAY, both of you are looking at the names on paper and not watching the games. Do the Cavs appear stacked on paper? Yeah. Did they play like the best team in the League in the regular season? Yeah. Can the Cavs go big, go small, go fast, etc? Yeah. Do they have talent? Yeah. BUT THEY’RE NOT GETTING IT DONE RIGHT NOW WHEN IT MATTERS.

    Look it up and try and argue differently: http://www.nba.com/cavaliers/stats/

  66. fallinup says:

    haha… jimmyjack.

    There is no THEY in 3-14.

  67. mAMba says:

    LBJ is a cocky ass mofo wearing Check My $tats tee’s and partying with jigga every night. He does treat basketball like a business and not his passion. And Magic/Suns wouldnt even be half bad. That series would absolutely destroy any 3 point records and have some thrilling high scoring games.

  68. sh!tfaced says:

    One more reason why LeDouche is asshole.

    http://www.chicagonow.com/blogs/chicago-bulls-confidential/2010/04/need-another-reason-to-hate-lebron.html

  69. LMNOP says:

    i think everyone just hates being told how great a guy who hasn’t won anything yet is.
    the media hype is just too much, it irritates people, makes them think “yeah hes great, but what the fuck has he really done”
    people are tired of seeing him get away with goaltends and travels, they are tired of the Cavs loosing a game but Lebron is the only player getting love on the highlights, they are tired of him averaging 1 block per game, not being a great 1 on 1 defender, but still making the all defensive team, tired of superstar treatment, they are tired of his free agent games, tired of his nickname, tired of excuses and tired of him taking over a whole days smack even tho he played terribly last night.
    we are tired of being told he is the greatest ever, we all want him on our team, but at the end of the day, in the NBA you ain’t shit till you take home the hardware, and LeBron hasn’t done that yet.

  70. fallinup says:

    “I spoil a lot of people with my play. When you have three bad games in seven years, it’s easy to point them out.”

    - Lebron James. 5.11.2010

  71. common sense says:

    has anyone noticed in those post-game interviews, the journalists are so shook to ask a slightly offensive or condescending question to the players that its becoming ridiculous..

    yo can hear the fear in their voices when they ask the questions. and then when they interview someone like coach Pop they get mocked for asking the retard questions. and the other night pachula was made to attend the presser and the had no questions for him.

  72. Badger says:

    Let’s go down the list shitfaced made:

    - Unsportsmanlike (Garnett)
    - Bad sport (Dumars & Isiah – no handshake)
    - Disrespectful winner (Jordan – Eyes closed free throw)
    - His fundamentals (Dwight Howard)
    - Makes excuses (LeBron said over and over again he wasn’t using his elbow as an excuse, so explain why that’s on your list?)
    - Unoriginal (Everybody who wears baggy shorts, arm sleeves and Nikes)
    - The nicknames (Mamba, The Answer, Big Self-Nickname-Giver)
    - Douchebag (Shaq, Kobe, Jordan – cheating on wives; Malone and Bird – abandoning their kids)
    - The 3rd person BS talk (Shaq)
    - Mama’s boy (Garnett)
    - Some of his fans are fucking annoying (KOBE)
    - He plays in Cleveland (Mark Price)

    Wow, looks like LeBron isn’t so bad now, huh?

  73. PWEEZY says:

    LBJ is a douche chump with no Ring…Dwade is 1 UP on him.

  74. Kermit The Washington says:

    Let’s wait ’till the series is over, shall we? I’m amp’d up, waiting for the Cavs to lose and if they do it’s gonna be so great. However, we all know the next two games can get snatched up MAD quick. So let’s hang on from saying it’s over, and then when if/when it IS over we can come back and talk all the junk we want.

  75. NC says:

    Why wouldn’t we hate on Lebron … chances are he’s not coming to our teams … hahahaha!

    In all seriousness I think he’s incredible as a player … friggin’ incredible! I just wish he was a little more original and classy in his conduct (ripping off pre-game rituals, inviting his teammates up for the MVP award, etc.). Maybe it’s his PR department and handlers that we should take to task.

  76. JAY says:

    @#64
    We’re not looking at names on paper. I agree with you that the other guys aren’t getting it done either but you need to read my post #37 again (i noticed you didn’t respond to it). He’s MVP and arguably the best player in the league. Role players lean on their star not the otehr way around. It’s his fucking team. He’s their rock. If he’s not getting it done, neither is anyone else. It’s a domino effect and it starts with “The King”. If a GM builds a team around a player, where the other pieces are brought in to compliment the star, and that star doesn’t show-up to play, it’s elementary that the rest of the team falls apart. Simple.

    Imagine cooking a beef stew. All the ingredients make it taste so awesome. Now, make that same beef stew without the beef… it’s no longer beef stew!

    Sorry for the analogy. I tried to break it down for mr. jimmycrack. Obviously, i’m not very creative.

  77. darkdefender says:

    Lol @ 60

    a rematch of the ’76 finals. I bet the players from that series can’t remember shit about it, let alone anyone else

    Dime – you had a poll to find Big Baby a new nick. I think that with the backlash against “King James” you should find one for Lebron. So far on this post I’ve seen:
    LeBroff
    LeBust
    LeChoke
    LeElbow
    LeDouche

  78. fallinup says:

    @ kermit

    To me. Game 5 was the Cavs’ to lose. No doubt. No superstar… no champion.. would have come out flat like that for such an important game.

    Sir Chuck said it best: “I’m disappointed in Lebron James for not showing up for the most important game of the season.”

    So Imma revel in it until game 6. Then imma see what this self proclaimed “King” is really made of (and be on the edge of my seat once again until one of two teams breaks away). Which I shoulda saw last night. There’s absolutely no excuses. Just like last night.

    The Celts brought IT yesterday. Lebron and his merry men did not. Plain and simple. You call yourself the King.. …. bring IT.

  79. ShowKase says:

    Dear Dime,

    If you and the rest of your media buddies would stop referring to him as “King”, it’d be a lot less annoying. One of the reasons people hate him is due to over exposure. The media crowned dude “the savior” out of high school. What is he “King” of? Playoff losses? The media continues to tell us he’s destined for greatest and have already called him an all-time great and he hasn’t even finished half of his career. This LeBromance is annoying and whats worst is that he has now begun to believe the hype and refers to himself in the third person. Seriously, who does that? Every morning I wake up and turn on the tv and I have to hear about a guy who’s won as many NBA championships as myself, zero. But that’s the world we live in and the system that is the NBA. Fans get frustrated because they watch referees constantly bail him out on plays in which he should be using his skill and basketball IQ, but instead continues to try to get by on his athleticism. As talented as he is, he should be dominating and it frustrates fans that he doesn’t seem to take him game to the next level. There are so many great expectations for him (NBA championship), but he hasn’t lived up to them yet. So why are we celebrating him? Because he can score a lot of points? Do better Dime, and the rest of the media.

  80. Mr. Brogden says:

    Taking off my completely unbiased NBA fitted cap…
    …wearing a Mark Price throwback.

    Cleveland.Cavaliers.O.M.G.Exclamation.Point.

    KG givin’ Jamison buckets.
    Baby givin’ everyone buckets.
    No one on the Cavs getting buckets.
    No one the Cavs stopping buckets.

    RAY RAY. COTTAMN. RAY RAY –} WHO R U?
    A DIRTY PLAYER NAMED JESUS WHO DROPS BOMBS.

    They were stinking it up.
    Lebron’s been stinking.
    Shaq’s been stinking.
    Antawn’s been stinking.
    Mo Williams’ been stinking.
    Delonte’s been stinking.
    The first 4 guys are ALL STARS – HELLO??

    So, anytime Lebron is off his game and likewise for his supporting cast, then the Cavs will lose games.
    But damn, they didn’t just LOSE a game. No. They lost a critical playoff game on HOME TURF.

    No. THEY GOT THEIR A** WHOOPED.

    Last night was like watching all of Sub Zero’s victims try to play ball.

    It’s just hard to do with NO SPINE.

  81. sh!tfaced says:

    @Badger – Well, it still doesn’t change a thing about LeBron. You just put MULTIPLE players on different reasons on the list.

    If anything, you just made my case stronger. Just made us realize that LeBron actually has got ALL the bad shit that we hate in a superstar COMBINED.

  82. My Favorite Superhero says:

    I was going to comment thinking it’d be only about 10-25 comments or so….but WOOOOOOW…..76 Comments before 9:30???? This has to be a record!!!

    I agree with #’s 2 & 5 basically…..LeBron is one of the best to play the game, but his attitude regarding his talent is just not appealing. Like someone said, the dancing when you’re winning, but walking off the court when you lose? That’s childish!

    Plus, I don’t like the fact that every year now, the Cavs have worked to upgrade the talent around this man and he still can’t win! If he is “The King”, then he should be able to win with the talent that is bought/traded each and every season.

    Double Plus, If he chooses to leave Cleveland, if they lose, that will just show what type of person he really is! Where’s the loyalty??? His team has had the best record the last couple of seasons and he’s contemplating leaving??? You’ve made it to the conference finals or semi’s pretty much every season and you’re contemplating leaving??? I could see if Cleveland turned into the Heat or God forbid it, the Sixers, but they’re a good team and he’s contemplating leaving??? That’s a sucker-move to me

  83. sh!tfaced says:

    Dude @19 who posted schadenfreude just nailed it.
    Really feeling a shitload of schadenfreude here right now. LOL

  84. QQ says:

    @ 81:

    ‘Just made us realize that LeBron actually has got ALL the bad shit that we hate in a superstar COMBINED.’

    HAHAHAHAHA. Exactly.

    Because of that I like to call him MegaZord.

    Damn, that surely backfired to whoever posted that eh.

  85. fallinup says:

    @ 83

    If I had Schadenfreude on a T-Shirt… I’d be wearing it all day today. :) I aint ashamed.

    Arnold said it best: If it bleeds, kill it.

  86. fallinup says:

    Sorry… “if it bleeds… we can kill it.”

  87. Marques says:

    @Hawkeye, you just said everything I was going to!

  88. karizmatic says:

    I’m not one of the people who take pleasure in LBJ losing, but I think I understand that line of thinking…in this overhyped era LBJ was given so much so early that people really didn’t get a chance to resepct him as a warrior. Times like last night are the times that a warrior should have rose to the occasion. KG did that, and so did Jordan, they might have lost, but they went out swinging, we don’t see that on a consistent basis from LBJ and it makes it more difficult for us to give him that same level of respect. Whereas we knew KG and Jordan were true warriors, we haven’t seen LBJ prove that yet, and there are a lot of people who assume that he is a true warrior even though he hasn’t proven it consistently, so the response to that is for some people to take great pleasure in his losses as a way of saying “see I told you so…I told you Lebron wasn’t real.”

  89. JAY says:

    @#79
    “Every morning I wake up and turn on the tv and I have to hear about a guy who’s won as many NBA championships as myself, zero”

    LMAO!!! So awesome. We’re all Lebron’s equals as far as NBA Championships go. Please, from now on call me “Lord of the Rings”.

  90. fallinup says:

    @ Jay

    Ooooh ooooh… from now on… I’m “The Chosen One, or two, or three donuts.”

  91. Meaze says:

    Jordan and Garnett never celebrated regular season wins like they were playoff wins. The dancing and entertainment is only cool when you win. Last year people had hopes and he let em down do to his leadership skills..This year I had the same feelin. You can’t dance and have fun and expect to win..Get ya ass in the gym, work on ya post game, and explain to ya team that we aint dancin and excitin the fans till we get the chip..Thats the goal

  92. sufferinknick says:

    I don’t hate Lebron but I don’t root for him either.I’m just afraid the pressure will finally catch up with him and his career will follow another well known king.If he ever does win the title and produce his “Thriller Album” he will buy a Third world country,turn it into his Neverland and spiral into madness.

  93. Brown says:

    Lebron will end up like Shaq, making it to the finals on a good team but not winning, then eventually signing with a team where he has a proper sidekick.

    I’d like to see him play for a coach who employs a system other than “pass it to Bron.”

  94. JAY says:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0cYqoGiCpXI&feature=email

    Add this to the list…. what a jerk

  95. fallinup says:

    Copy pasta from another website, but befitting none the less.

    “There are many great players who are not champions…and many champions who are not great players.”

    This should be hanging over “The King’s” locker right now. Which is ever more the reason that Lebron’s game last night was plain unacceptable by the basketball gods.

    Champions win important games. Champions leave it all out on the floor even in a loss. Imma ride Bron on this until he proves otherwise.

  96. Ianny b says:

    Candace Parker???? That’s insane and i know there was pun intended. Bring on the Dennis Green quotes”they are who we thought they were” lines and well deserved too. So much for writing off the Celtics, and giving Lebron another premature finals appearance. They C’s are putting in work. Big point my Pierce” Just shut down Lebron and we’re good,whilst with us everyone”e a threat. It’s the plain truth. The entire season the Cavs have overachieved, and have landed hard this time of year. I think Lebron is gone as the season ends. jay Z needs to feature him on that New York song as that’s where he’s gonna be next season.

    What’s up with Mike Brown, how obnoxious is he?? Why does he have to open his mouth so wide to emphasize. he needs to be gone ASAP. Go Lakers!!!!!!!!!!!

  97. Celt4life says:

    All I can say is WOW!
    Last night I saw a veteran team that was focused from beginning to end. I also saw LBJ not come to the ball on several plays so I do agree with post #39 coaching is a big problem. The ball is stagnated and even in the “kings” hands he’s either looking for the foul or a kick out. They must have the shortest play book in the league.
    I also think that the media did give him the second coming (and a 90mil contract from NIKE)before he even stepped onto the court. That’s how the rivalry started when he stepped to pierce and he was like you just got here talking all that smack!
    Any way I believe he will when a chip I don’t want it to be this year but when he gets to MJ level (being humble to the game)I’ll be happy for him.
    I look at it like my own kid he’s 14 (going on 30)he’s filling out physically started wrestling and has girls coming to his matches and calling his name he’s so full of himself that I need to humble him by reminding him what’s important. I keep on him, make respect his elders, do extra work so when hard work comes he knows how to handle it. I don’t see that with LBJ I see a litter of gift bows in his wake.
    That’s not to say he didn’t work on his game, nor he that he doesn’t deserve the millions he receiving. He’s just a kid who’s smelling himself who’s about to be humbled whether he likes it or not!

  98. collegeballer3 says:

    Just would like to say that Mike Brown is the worst coach i’ve ever seen in NBA history. Everytime the camera is on dude, he looks dazed and confused with his mouth open! He was clearly sh*tting his pants last night with the funky big man rotation. JJ Hickson got barely any minutes and Leon Powe didn’t see time. What’s the point of having them? How did he ever get the job there?
    This Cavs team has zero chemistry. It looks like the team when you go to the Y, that plays 1 on 5 and has never played together.
    Mo Williams is NOT a point guard. Lebron has always been the point guard of this team. At age 37, you can’t tell me that Jason Kidd wouldn’t make life easier for Lebron James right now. Its bad news when Shaq at age 55 is your leading scorer. Lebron better have two 40 point performances in store.. otherwise, its a wrap like seran.

    I love it though..in a league where Lebron has been pampered all season, getting every foul call when somebody breathes upon him, not even Joe Crawford can change the outcome of the game bc the Celts blast them by 30! I don’t hate lebron, but all of these bandwagon Cavs fans make me want to hate him. Why don’t you like a team that is within a 300 mile radius of where your from?

    Big ups to my OLD Boston Celtics. I hope the media continues to see them as the underdog because they seem to like it. I like my chances in Vegas with the celtics. Maybe there old, but they got experience baby. Keep counting them out.

  99. sh!tfaced says:

    QQ@84 – Yep. Thanks, man. hehehe

    fallinup@85 – Best time to wear ‘em. LOL. Wonder if they got shirts with “WITNESS SCHADENFREUDE” on it…

  100. xot says:

    @68 & 92

    I know people are going to downplay it but this video illustrates perfectly what I dont like about lebron and professional sports in general. Look at all the fans and franchises spending millions and begging and pleading this worthless human being to come to their town because he can dunk a basketball. I watch less and less bball each year, where I play pickup hoops everyone respects each other and when new guys show up with prick attitudes they either get quick attitude adjustments or they dont come back

  101. LeBron James says:

    Ya’ll are being too tough on LeBron James

    We all have off nights and you know there’s nothing else on my mind than winning a championship for my homestate.

    That being said, I just didn’t feel like we were good enough to win and we will probably lose this series.

    P.S. I hate QQ

    lol

  102. The Journeyman says:

    Go Suns…much better than you expect

  103. The Journeyman says:

    LeBron James was quoted as saying:

    ” You guys are being too tough on a LeBron James team. Last night was just one of those games where we have to learn from and we will continue to push for our goal of a championship.

    That being said, I don’t think we will win it all this year but shout out to Ohio.

    P.S. I hate QQ ”

    Where amazing happens

  104. Jen says:

    LeBron was anointed by the media and general public (or self-anointed for that matter) before he played a game. He hasn’t “earned” it like Mike did. That’s the deal and that’s the reason people don’t generally root for him to win it all.

  105. QQ says:

    @ Bron:

    LOL. Win a ring, then we’ll talk. hahahaha

  106. Soopa says:

    Holy #¤”!

    I really hope Boston advances, but they way people are throwing mud on this site i bet Lebron comes out and scores 50 in the garden!

  107. Andy says:

    It’s impossible to love Bron, sorry. The media is the one to take the blame. How can you crown a guy “The King” when he hasn’t won one single damn title? That’s what upsets people. If LBJ is THE KING with 0 rings, what does that make Bill Russell? Or MJ? Or Magic? Or even Kobe, Shaq, Duncan? And all the other fantastic players to actually win and earn their titles?
    I mean, come on!The guy is much too celebrated, he acts as though he’s god’s gift to basketball or something. His game is nowhere near MJ’s, or Kobe’s for the matter. He relies on athleticism, and leaping ability,and that’s about it( he is a great passer though). He has to EARN the title first! He has to batle Orlando, he has to go through the Celtics, and their proud team. And, as a final stop, he has to outshine Kobe in the Finals. That’s why people don’t like him. Yeah, MJ and all superstars are arrogant to some extent, but those guys have Rings! LBJ is arrogant,and acting as though he deserves everything. He hasn’t done anything to deserve squat yet! And until he proves everybody wrong, he should leave all the stupid media frenzy aside. I’m tired of reading only LBJ stuff. Nobody’s talking about Durant for example, another fantastic young player, or all the other deserving guys in this league. People who are willing to learn, go through rough stuff to achieve their goals, just like us, normal people! People inherently hate anyone who is given credit on the basis of nothing.

  108. dh says:

    hahaha @ 3.

    dime, this is the age of social media, where every hater is available to the whole world and every moron has to pos

  109. Iceman says:

    If D Wade and the Heat are Michael Jackson and a bunch of Titos, then Lebron and the Cavs have got to be R Kelly and the Public Announcement or maybe Lionel Richie and the Commodores

  110. abcdefg says:

    The NBA has turned into a league of LeBron James, which is why long time NBA fans are haters. Honestly – he has NO RIGHT to be called the King. It basically disrespects every legend that has ever played in the NBA; to not recognize them in that sort of fashion. In fact – in a few years all of James’ records will be broken by Durant, so I guess we’ll all start calling Durant “The God” right?

    From dancing on the baseline, to not shaking hands when he loses a series, to even disrespecting a clothes boy or whatever he was, he is such a bad face for the NBA in my opinion. It makes me laugh even harder when the whole NBA world is focused on his “BRUISED” elbow. My friends, Kobe Bryant is playing through a sprained ankle and a dislocated finger. How can you tag someone a “KING”, when they have no obvious drive to win, and play through a “BRUISED” elbow. He obviously doesn’t have the mentality “mind over matter” embedded within…

    But as said, it’s the media’s fault – and I also believe it’s the fans fault. You people pour so much hype into the guy, and although he may be very talented – when us other fans who actually have a damn basketball IQ of the game notice that LeBron James isn’t living up to the hype that he receives, we hate because we are sick and tired of everything revolving around The Queen.

  111. common sense says:

    @everyone..

    lebron is suffering from what other great athletes suffer from. intense hate. this hate will not lesson but only get worse until he retires then all the haters will realise they just witnessed one of the greatest talents to ever play the game. it always happens that way. the same way people can hate on tom brady and payton manning, same way they hate on bron. pete sampras suffered from this hate as does roger federer.

    all i can say is the reason why people are getting so ‘bent out of shape’ about last nights performance is that lebron has set the bar so high that when he does under-perform people overreact..

    simple put, the guy is human. he came into the league with so much hype and honestly he has lived up to this with the exception of not yet winning a chip. he will get one when he leaves cleavland and joins another superstar somewhere.

    imagine this, has anyone with so much hype come close to ever living up to it. imagine how it is to be lebron james. personally, i think he’s handled himself well all things concerned. obviously making some mistakes but on the whole, ill still take his personality over MJ or KG.

    MJ and KG might have chips but MJ has so many flaws i dont even know when to start and KG takes things too far and lacks class in the way he conducts himself on the court. dancing aside, lebron doesn’t constantly talk trash to the point were it gets personal like KG does. lebron will never win and this is the shame. the NBA will be a worse place when lebrons gone. appreciate him whilst he’s still playing.

    if i could pick one athlete in the world that i would pay to watch it would be LBJ, or Chris Johnson.. Go Titans and go CJ2K!!

  112. Mitch says:

    I hate Lebron cuz he’s alreddi been anointed the King and he ain’t won shit…Ppl talking about torch pass’n to him no…he needs to win first then and only then shall he be a true rival to kb24…

    secondly…I know this is late but that sidney deane reference for that Rondo fake was crazy…thats y I read dime religiously…in the same vein…I think the theme for last nite’s game was “That shit was TOO Easy”

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HpTP8F8ZFv8

  113. johnsacrimoni says:

    I guess I’m a little late to the party. Couple thoughts:
    1. Was it the elbow? Does he trust his teammates?
    2. Shaq at this point in his career is nothing more than a stat-hog. All he cares about is scoring points and the occasional highlight-reel swat.
    3. Mo Williams and Antawn Jamison can score in bunches when they’re on (they weren’t in game 5) but they are both horrid defenders.

  114. common sense says:

    actually, add DWade to the mix.. that guy is sik!!

  115. quick wit it says:

    “With LeBron, it’s like so many people are taking pleasure in his losses, and last night was another moment to pounce on him and laugh. If you’re one of those people, do us a favor and explain that line of thinking.”
    great article as witness (pun intended) by the barrage of comments.

    someone said it above about a sense of entitlement, but i LOVE to watch lebron lose because he let his own marketing change him. he knows it’s about the chip. but with everything being ‘the one’ ‘witnesses’ ‘the king’ he can’t separate all this positive reinforcement he receives from the fact that he can’t get a chip.
    is that his fault?
    not exactly.
    but do i enjoy the negative reinforcement, aka reality, that basketball is a team sport and/or if you really are the greatest you’d better play like it in the biggest games? yes, of course. because i love basketball and clearly so do many other people on this blog which is why this article has 99 comments- because it’s on the topic of lebron losing.

    …and last point i want to make is that mj didn’t shake hands with the bad boy pistons because there was blood on the court. if you go back and watch those old highlights they literally demolish each other. would you shake hands with a gladiator in the ring? today’s league and the series that lebron didn’t shake hands at the end of is different- he absolutely should have. that gesture was his sense of entitlement rearing it’s ugly head.

    speaking of ugly head’s, 3-14 in a major playoff game??? don’t ever ever ever compare lebron to mj.

  116. abcdefg says:

    btw @ 16 (rapTOr)
    that is the stupidest thing i’ve ever read in my life.
    sorry.

  117. Mike says:

    @ #72 Badger Joe Dumars & Salley DID shake MJ’s hand it was Thomas & the rest of the team that walked off

  118. johnsacrimoni says:

    Wow! I guess LeBron has one bad game and the haters come out in droves. Yes, he had a terrible performance in a very important game. Yes, he can be an arrogant douche. That still doesn’t take away from the fact that he is the best player in basketball. MJ was considered the best from 88-90 before he won anything. It’s crazy to expect the best player to win a title every year just because they’re the best, in any sport. Basketball is a team sport and coaching, teammates and game plan are all huge factors. I know everyone says this is the best supporting cast he’s ever had, but the reality is his supporting cast is still a little subpar and his coach sucks. You take LeBron off that team and they win 41 games at best. MJ had Scottie. Shaq and Kobe had each other. Duncan had the Admiral and then Parker and Ginobili. D-Wade had a still effective Shaq. KG had Pierce and Allen. Kobe had Gasol. LeBron has Jamison, Williams and a washed up Shaq. Good players but not all-stars.

  119. bubs says:

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-lebroncavs051210

    Way to kick a guy when he is down. Yeah he had a bad game and looked very lackluster, but he has carried this team all year. the Supporting cast is a key here. Mo Williams inconsistency vs Rando’s game which is as good as advertised. Ray Allens jumpers vs Jamario moon or anthony parker. Antawn’s small forward post up game vs KG toughness… Even Kobe & Jordan couldn’t carry a whole team by themselves…

  120. fallinup says:

    @ 115

    B… b… but… It was just a bad game. No wait… it’s the team’s fault…. no no no… it’s Brown’s fault.

    What’s sad is how bron just excused that loss, and that performance as nothing more than a learning experience. Tell me anyone known for that killer instinct to ever say shit like that.

    Barkley referenced it in the post game discussion. Malone, Stockton, all the greats he’s played against. They may not have that ring… but at the end of the game.. .their guns were empty.

    No way you can say that for Bron’s performance. No way you can make excuses or brush off your impact to a crucial game like that. Bron should have been pissed off during that press conference. I totally didn’t see that.

  121. Mike says:

    Here’s why I hate LBJ
    -Choosen 1 tatoo
    -wears # 23
    -Says he wants to change # 2 honor MJ so why did he pick 23 in the 1st place
    -when he wins he dances like an idiot but when he loses he walks away like a little bitch
    -He travels at least ONCE a game
    -The refs are on his dick so much that he’s upset when ever he gets called 4 a foul

  122. ticktock6 says:

    I’m one of those LeBron haters (hello, guys!) and I think people above have outlined the main points nicely. The dumbed-down mainstream media is a large part of it. Does anyone remember 2 seasons ago, when it was LeBron’s 24th birthday and NBA TV had “24 Hours of LeBron”? I follow a small market team. Those teams are lucky to get on TV at all, lucky to have the national commentating crews know shit about their lineup, or even know the players’ names. And we have 24 hours of LeBron? How about last year’s playoffs? It was LeBron vs. Kobe from the first round. It was like the other three rounds of the playoffs didn’t even exist.

    The chalk. Don’t even get me going on the chalk. Why is it in all these highlight reels? Is it a play? Did it even occur with the clock running? Chalk, chalk, chalk. Is this a league where exciting highlights happen or a league where the actual games are so boring that we need the same silly shot of something that happens pre-game at least twice a night? And seriously, do you think the poor media member who has the misfortune of sitting at that table is like, “OMG! I AM IN THE PRESENCE OF GREATNESS! I AM A WITNESS! SHOWER ME WITH YOUR CHALK O KING!” … or is he like, “Thanks for getting fucking chalk dust all over my laptop. Douche.”

    My issue with that type of coverage is I don’t think it’s good for the league. Why do we need to manufacture stories around the same two or three stars and “special” teams when there are legitimate, inspiring, interesting NBA stories going on? We’re missing out on those stories, the real stories. We missed out on them last year because of that endless puppet nonsense, to the point where, yes, I rejoiced when the Cavs were out, because the media would actually be forced to cover, you know, the GAMES. Is this LeBron’s fault? Not entirely. But it does mean there is a sort of very manufactured quality about him and his whole story.

    When someone makes excuses for poor behavior and then claims to be a person who’s all about “no excuses”… when someone toys with local fans about free agency, just to get himself talked about… when someone tattoos the logos for his own shoe campaigns on himself… when someone dances and mocks other teams and then sulks when things don’t go his way… I find it off-putting and self-aggrandizing.

    I will not go into detail about the degrading things I’ve heard people who are female and work in basketball have had to put up with from LeBron and his “boys,” because those things were told to me in confidence. But yeah. As a woman that makes me not a fan.

  123. Ian says:

    darkdefender
    damn man shaq was the second best player on his 4th ring.

    badger
    agree with everything (well not the david robinson part what more can u do with elliott and 3 clowns as your teammates).

    btw people the bron bashing and kobe and jordan nuthuggin today is getting outta hand.

  124. Dave says:

    Entitlement rubs people wrong, MJ and others earned what they won, LBJ seems to think he’s entitled to being a champ.

  125. fallinup says:

    @ Ian

    As said earlier. Today is a holiday!

    whoooop whoooop!

  126. DGtheEnigma says:

    To Dime:

    It has been said ad nauseum, but it’s true. The sense of entitlement is clearly the overriding issue driving the LBJ-hate train. To be honest, deservedly so. All the greats need to be taken through the ringer. No matter the sport. And in this case, LBJ still hasn’t won the ‘chip, so the naysayers will continue to have ammo. Consider this:

    - In 1991, the consensus was that MJ was the best INDIVIDUAL talent in the league, but Magic was still the game’s best player. Why? Because he dominated the previous decade with MVPs…and RINGS! LBJ has been annointed the game’s best player without taking it from what many consider still the game’s best player in Kobe.

    - In this era, championships only validates great players instead of being the determining factor how it used it be up until the Celtics won in 2008. Then I noticed as shift in the media/public perception about what championships mean. Once KG got the ring, it became validation of a great career, instead of the determining factor. Back in MJ’s day, you had to win a ring before you were anything besides a great player to the media/general public.

    LBJ and the Cavs could very well when this series. In fact, I feel like all of the postmortems being written this morning will only allow the C’s to drop their guard. All this to say, until LBJ wins a championship, the hate will continue. Until LBJ begins to understand that championships will make him a mogul, not marketing efforts.

    Although the media may drive/determine the narrative, the truth is that the public knows this. Catch up Dime!

    Frequent/Loyal Dime Visitor,

  127. JAY says:

    @109… how about Prince and the Next Generation.

  128. FallODaLdr says:

    Around ’05 I remember telling my friend I hate ESPN for making me hate LeBron James. At the time I really appreciated his game and talents (still do for the most part). But his over exposure and constant media coverage combined with LBJ’s terrible attitude has pushed me into the “I hate Lebron” camp. The most recent example of ESPN/Media over coverage is the “elbow” incident. Every player in the playoffs is playing with some sort of injury, this is the nature of the beast, except you hardly hear about it. With LBJ its a media barrage over anything and everything. People may say that this is not his fault, which maybe true to an extent, but LBJ relishes this attention and plays it up for the media. The guy had two MRI’s that showed nothing, yet it was reported as a sprain and bone bruise, two things that most def show up on a MRI. Couple all this with his lack of tact and responsibility and it makes if very hard to root for him. Has there ever been a time he has taken responsibility for a loss or poor performance. His post game yesterday was ridiculous, “you guys are spoiled, cause you’re not used to me playing bad”. Instead of taking the blame for an extremly poor performance (especially mentally) he blames everyone else for EXPECTING him to performe well in a crucial game 5 at home. Last time I checked, thats the difference between stars and SUPERstars, big time, clutch performances in the playoffs, they are paid to play big in big games. (i.e. Joe Johnson aka “the disappering man”) LBJ may be the MVP of the regular season, but Kobe is the MVP of the playoffs. Kobe is showing LBJ what it takes to be the best player in the world. Kobe, while injured and having a poor shooting series, took Russel Westbrook out of the game with his defense, ultimately turning the momentum of the series back to the Lakers. Also, the Lakers closed out both the Thunder and Jazz on the road (most hostile areans), the sign of a championship team.

    Everyone is entitled to a bad shooting game, but there are other ways to impact the game. LBJ should be the perfect player in that you take one dimension of his game away and he dominates you in another. Why didn’t he try for 10+ assists if his shot wasn’t falling, why didnt’ he have 12+ rebounds to at least clean the glass and then push it up the court? Why didn’t he play good defense on ANYONE, especially since he is supposedly 1st team All-Defense? Why didn’t he keep attacking the paint since he is a free throw generating machine for 18+ FTA? Why didn’t he gather his team together and light a fire under their asses? Because that’s what SUPERSTARS do.

    Why didn’t he river dance his ass around the court and lip synch to everysong over the PA? I guess you can only do that when you’re beating a shitty East team during the dog days of the NBA regular season.

  129. DavMat says:

    I’ll say again. If you put D-Wade in Cleveland. Cleveland would win a championship! Period. When Miami won, they had way less talent than Cleveland does now.

  130. DGtheEnigma says:

    ^^^
    Co-sign! Word to the 2006 Championship team!

  131. JAY says:

    @johnsacrimoni

    Please don’t compare LBJ to the 88-90 Mike. Mike played his hardest every single game. You don’t get it. Yes Lebron had a bad game. Ask yourself the question, why? It’s because he didn’t even show up. There’s no disputing the importance of last night’s game and Lebroni gave no effort. and how many free throws did the most physically imposing player on the court shoot?? There’s no disputing his skills, but he’s the lion from the Wizard of Oz. He needs to find some courage before his hometown team gets bounced from the playoffs.

  132. JAY says:

    @ #127 FallODaLdr

    * STANDING APPLAUSE *

    please everyone take the time to read his post and applaud the man. Great post.

    * STANDING APPLAUSE *

  133. DGtheEnigma says:

    ^^^
    Co-sign! Perfect example: MJ went to Boston Garden in ’86 and put up 69. Won the game and the series. That was Barkley’s point last night.

    MJ would go down firing. Hell, D-Wade went down firing to the C’s. There really is no excuse. LBJ simply didn’t show up last night.

    Something tells me he threw the game last night, so there can be more dramatics to the LBJ “Legend”…

  134. DavMat says:

    Damn straight. FallODaLdr nailed it!

  135. fallinup says:

    Very needless to say…. All eyes are on Lebron for Thursday. There aint no more excuses. His back is against the wall. His character is being questioned…. his stock is falling. Maybe now he’ll show up and (yes I know it sounds corny but it’s true)… maybe now he’ll ‘will his team to victory’.

    It’s put up or shut up time, come Thursday Bron. You wanna be the king… you better prove it with a ‘W’. No less, no more.

  136. asmaticasiatic2 says:

    Something about bron’s attitude and cockness, its good to have some but he is over the top. I remember against chicago the ball boy was trying to grab his sweats when he was checking in;Bron decided to make it harder for the kid and throw it in the opposite direction just because he could….terrible but I can’t deny his talent and potiential….

  137. sh!tfaced says:

    DavMat @ 128

    Don’t you mean, if you put D-Wade AND Pat Riley in Cleveland? Nobody ain’t winning shit if Mike Brown is the coach. Really isn’t totally LeBron’s fault the Cavs fucked up.

  138. DavMat says:

    MJ Story: Horace Grant had a bad playoff game one night. On the plane. MJ took away his plate of food cause he said that Grant didn’t play well enough to earn a meal. The next game, Grant killed it!
    That is leadership and that’s what lacking in LBJ. So many different ways you can influence a game. and LBJ did none of it. Dude is a great player, but to be an elite player, you have to put your stamp in every playoff game, period! Jordon, Bird, Magic, all did that, and that’s why we remember their games, and that’s why we say that they had heart.

  139. DavMat says:

    sh!tfaced @ 137

    Yeah you’re onto something there. Some ppl. suggested in this post that he could have tried several different things to get the team moving. Like playing small ball, or doing an inside outside thing, ie. Orlando or even running more. Yeah.

  140. QQ says:

    Yes, it’s put up or shut up time. All haters were stormin the gates here LOL, but we all have to agree. It ain’t over yet.

    Maybe Bron will do something to say ‘I told ya so’. Drop 60 points. a 30-15-15 line. A game winning shot. Myabe just maybe, we’ll like you again as Lebron The Player, not Lebron The Spoiled Media Darling.

    Now’s the time, Bron.

    PS: My thoughts? Bron puts up a shitty statline, Cleveland lose, and Dime will have an article apologizing for all the Bron dick riding, and will now be full pledge Bron haters.

  141. fallinup says:

    @ QQ

    Nah… I doubt that. As much as Dime loves Bron… they’re secretly wishing for a Thursday loss because they know their town has been shamelessly shilling for him for years now.

    It won’t be a DimeMag “We Hate Bron now lovefest”. It will be the “When is Bron coming to NY lovefest”.

    It’s kind of a win/lose situation with folks that could care less about Lebron and even lesser about the Knicks.

  142. fallinup says:

    As said in another post… Even Spike Lee has sold his soul and is rooting for Boston. Now that’s shameless. :)

  143. DGtheEnigma says:

    Ha! I just discovered why I’m in the anti-LBJ camp, slowly but surely.

    This statement: “I spoil people alot with my play…”
    That comment to me will go down as one that a lot of people point to as to when their perception of him as a player.

    F**king sense of entitlement is sickening! What LBJ is saying to the people is this: “I’m spectacular most of the time, so I’m entitled to have a bad game in the biggest game of the season and of my career thus far…”

    Will some LBJ fan/stan explain that statement?

  144. QQ says:

    Just another link to all of us who ‘don’t know the game’. (Remember that? When Dime featured Bron as one of the most hated players, but was cheered by ‘those who truly know the game’. So we’re all essentially dumbasses here right?’.

    http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/blog/ball_dont_lie/post/Behind-the-Box-Score-where-LeBron-James-did-not?urn=nba,240500#remaining-content

    ‘This was LeBron’s game, though. LeBron’s game to waste, LeBron’s legacy to ruin, LeBron’s lifetime of brilliance to put on hold.

    You’re free to dismiss. Have at him.’

    Love that fucking statement.

  145. dmitry of jersey says:

    wow this has got to be the most comments I’ve seen on Dime!

    I’ve always defended Lebron but damn it’s tough after last night.

    Still, gota mention that the Cavs just aren’t built for the playoffs. Remember, Orl didnt beat them with their offense last year– they beat them with defense. Game to game, the Cavs get by because Lebron takes whatever one or two of his teammates gives him and it’s enough. But in the playoffs, when teams *really* prepare, they expose Mo Williams and Co. as what they are- weak. It kinda reminds me of Dallas in 2007.

    Still… Lebron has to play with more heart. I could not believe last night.

  146. muteant says:

    It’s funny how people have forgotten how unlikable Jordan really was.

  147. K Dizzle says:

    @ Ian

    no doubt huh? I thought fools hated Kobe lol. I thank God everyday for that championship last season otherwise the snakes would come out spewin that “Kobe can’t win shit without Shaq” venom

    @ Celts Fan – “The King will get a ring eventually, but it’s time to dead even the possibility of Top 5 GOAT status (or even passing Kobe in the top 10 ever) if he doesn’t win something soon. We forget, but he’s almost half way through his career (7 years in, 27 years old”

    I need to say this cuz the haters are focussin on Bron and missin the fact that the Celts took that game. Point blank: Lebron coulda had a Rondo triple-double and they still lose by double digits, but I’m just gonna remind you about how old Mike was when he won his first chip. U can’t seriously think Bron ain’t gonna be in the top 10 when it’s all said and done cuz he ringless at 27. I know it’s shit on Lebron day, but I wouldn’t wanna be a Celts fan tomorrow cuz we already seen what happens after the Celts whoop on the Cavs at home.

    @ QQ – why you so angry lol? Your team owns Cleveland but you out here actin like a Suns fan who just caught a replay of the Robert Horry hipcheck. Breathe

    Real point – Cavs are a GREAT regular season squad, but they dudes go soft during playoffs. They feasted during the regular season off chemistry, but playoff time, against a squad like Boston who can gameplan and then execute they defense, you ain’t hearin nuthin about Jamison, Williams and where the hell is Delonte? Shit, a 37 yr old was the best player yesterday.
    Check it:
    Lakers – Kobe, Gasol, Artest, Odom
    Magic – Dwight, Jameer, Shard, Vince
    Celts – Rondo, Ray, Pierce, KG
    Suns – Amare, Nash, JRich, GHill
    Cavs – LeBron, Shaq, Mo, Jamison
    Be real for a minute. Cavs’ talent can’t even pretend to see the other 4 teams, but I know how it goes so I’ma wait til thursday night and see what happens. Too many haters talkin like this series over.

    @ Dime – I didn’t want MJ to even get his first ring. U know I rep the Lakeshow and who did Mike take down for chip 1? I appreciate dude now, but I hated him then. KG, I just felt sorry for cuz he never had that Pippen, that DRobinson, that Kobe or Shaq to help pull weight.

    As for Lebron, all I gotta say is this.Come to LA, Bron. We got experience with divalike ballers. Come learn from the best.
    Lakers, baby! Alllllllll day!

  148. sh!tfaced says:

    Nah, Cavs have got what it takes to win. They just got an incompetent coach who can’t hack it in the playoffs.

    Just like Dallas in 2007. Don Nelson had (former protege) Avery Johnson read like an open book. The seito never had a chance against his sensei.

  149. QQ says:

    I aint mad K Dizzle. LOL. But you know me, if there’s a point to be proven, i’ll yap all day bout it. And besides, it’s Dime who opened the question bout Bron getting too much hate. Im just respondin.

  150. LakeShow84 says:

    DAMMMNNNNNN such a busy day too!!

    This will be my only post..

    Lebron was given everything without earning NOTHING..

    And you can throw his dominating stats out there all you want kids.. Whats good the game if you dont dominate the final 2 minutes??

    Who do you remember the man who kept you close in the game or the man who hit the game winner?? Who the winner in that scenario..

    Like i said i could tolerate him if he didnt buy into his own shit.. He walks around like a smug college punk who aint really done shit..

    And to top it off dude gets bogus calls that are OBVIOUS.. Who wants to root for someone who is getting a one up??

    QQ’s and Hawkeyes posts were some of the only posts i read but they were dead on..

    If he was humble i could feel him.. or even have that quiet arrogance of a killer that Dwade and Kobe have but dude carries himself like he is literally a god..

    And gods dont wilt away when it matters most and damn sure dont need helping hands..

    Lol everyone so in love with dudes stats.. Which is exactly what the case was with Wilt..

  151. Ace says:

    @fallinup

    “Don’t hate on us for knowing what’s up better than you guys. You guys make money off this shit… we live it because we love it. Respect the game… and that goes right to you Lebron”

    Thats Awesome. Its also awesome when LeDouche goes on to make the “experts” (looking at you DIME), thats been riding his d**k long and hard, look like damn fools. They got no choice other than to try and guilt us. Go through the comments DIME. See what the fans REALLY think. You think pre-ring MJ or T’Wolves KG would have evoked the same hate. No Damn way.

  152. Tbone says:

    Daaaaamn, Jimmyjack just crushed all you haters. I mean he OBLITERATED your points. It’s like he came to your house while you were taking a shit, took a shovel and rammed your own feces down your throat before you could even flush the toilet.

    If this comment board was a fight, JimmyJack KO’d the f&%# out of you guys back at post 21. KO. END OF STORY. You haters are such a JOKE.

  153. QQ says:

    @ 152:

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Come on now jimmyjack. Just give it up.

    And come on, ‘Tbone?’. What the fuck are thinking jimmy?

    HAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

  154. Not fallinup says:

    DAYUM… yo. That fallinup just waxed you with his comment #49. Ya’ll should just give it up now. Man… that was devastating!

  155. sh!tfaced says:

    LMFAO! That’s so damn obvious, it’s pathetic.

  156. fallinup says:

    At least he tried. Can’t say the same about the King last night. But…….

  157. Mike says:

    Will it be LeBrons last game in Cleveland?
    Will it be his last game with a headband?
    His last game with Nike’s? really who cares until July

    -As a Bulls fan I prefer the Chicago getting no free agent than signing that prick LeBrick

  158. JAY says:

    Tbone, huh? Jimmycrack made the same amount of valid arguments as Lebron gave effort last night… zero.

  159. BigMC says:

    Part of the reason why I don’t like Lebron is his attitude, plain and simple. With KG, Kobe, and Jordan, you always got the impression that basketball and winning were their number 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5 priorities, with endorsements, etc coming after. With Lebron, it just doesn’t seem like he cares about the game or winning that much, he is more interested in being Mr. Global Icon and chasing around high school and college kids with WWW and Calipari than working on winning a championship. How many other superstars go around all summer promoting a movie about their high school championship teams? None. How many other superstars start their own marketing companies and sell their soul to the shadiest coach in the NCAAs (Calipari) and tries to influence kids to go to certain school (see CDR, Marquis Teague, etc) just to so he can sign them to his marketing company (Wall rejected him too FYI). None. All these things make Lebron imminently unlikeable.

    Also, bear in mind Team USA basketball never really took off and got over the hump until Kobe became “the man”. While Lebron may be better than Kobe overall now, Kobe is a cold blooded killer who can close a game. Lebron can’t.

  160. K Dizzle says:

    lol @ “-As a Bulls fan I prefer the Chicago getting no free agent than signing that prick LeBrick”

    I get the point but you know you lyin

  161. jay says:

    first off i was very surprised first by the score and than by the way boston dropped the gautlet! i am not a lebron hater by any means but i will say i am a kobe fan! that said, i have toi say what his airness and barkley have said for years! the mantle is earned not just annointed by espn or whomever! what i saw last night is what i saw over the weekend with tigger..yeah i said it..tigger..big bullies and once they get punched once or stood up to the bully backs off and us as fans see the real person behind the facade or image. maybe that is why everybody loves mj is a killer and did not back down…peeople like jeter..even if one is a sox fan ..sox fans know dj is a winner..period..who is lebron…who is tigger..when the tough get going..the best should be brought out in the star..not the worst. hey kb faced tough times but he perservered and though he demanded a trade which was not cool but he spoke to the media and was gracious in losing…we shall see what happens thurs!

  162. fallinup says:

    And just to expand on BigMC’s excellent post. While Bron was flying around pushing his movie last summer. Kobe was on the court learning a little post up game from the Dream. Now that’s wanting to win.

    And let me say this now. It wasn’t until Kobe’s first playoff series (that I think he lost BTW) on his own verses the Suns that I truly noticed that I had respect for him. I’m a LAKER HATER!!! I hated… H.A.T.E.D. Kobe.

    To earn respect like that is something Bron has never had to do. Maybe now this public flogging of his image of greatness being sooo soooooo apparent everywhere today will finally wake his ass up.

    I’m curious to see how pissed off Bron is come Thursday. He sure didn’t seem that pissed off in his post game conference… maybe now… after all his Media Dick Riders put in those question marks that he’ll get it finally.

  163. johnsacrimoni says:

    @ JAY
    I don’t get it? Who the fuck made you an expert on anything? Look, I don’t even like LeBron that much but I’m sick of hearing 2 million people declare that he sucks or he doesn’t play hard or he’s a pretender because of ONE FUCKING GAME. Let’s be sane and rational and put things in perspective. If he goes out and drops 45-14-12 in game 6 then everyone will be back on Dime saying he’s the greatest ever.

  164. Mike says:

    -I want 2 c if LBJ shakes da C’s hand if they lose Thurs.
    -He said last year he didn’t shake hands cuz he was frustraded and is a winner. Wat has LeBron won?
    -Tim Duncan (a 4x champ) got swept and still shook Nash’s hand
    -Cavs could be competitive if they go small with JJ, just don’t tell Mike brown

  165. KB24 says:

    Dang, Reading all these comments makes me feel bad for the guy now. haha. I mean I hate LeBron. But shit dude is a human being. People fuck up. He’s a great player. Best in the L? nah that’s the Mamba. I know it may seem like the Cavs are done…but a team has to win 4 games not 3. So Bron still has a chance to prove his mental toughness n try to win 2 games in a row. I’m just saying…he still has a chance. It’s the NBA…like KG said, “Anything is Possible!!!!” I’d expect all this hate if the series was over. But in reality…it really isn’t. It would be funny to see Bron bring his squad back and make it to the East Finals. Boy would everyone feel dumb if he does.

  166. LakeShow84 says:

    @ KB24

    At least ill respect that shit..

    Lol but i was thinking the same thing.. Everyone acting like its over already?? Its really not since Cleveland showed they can win CONVINCINGLY in Boston..

    BUT

    This will be another moment in Lebrons career where he can prove himself to be in the company of the all time greats.. And truly have earned a spot there.. not been pushed up there by the fuckin dipshit snakes that call themselves MEDIA..

    Better not fall short..

    Hmmmmmmmmm 2x MVP with the leagues best record 2 years in a row and wont even make the Finals for the 2nd year in a row?? Damn..

    Must be rough.. but thats what happens when you listen to everything thats said about and start to believe it.. you forget how to PUSH.. You like to stand and bask in shit.. All great, LEGENDARY athletes have had to push themselves..

    Lebron aint no different..

  167. Mr. Brogden says:

    Here’s hopin’ BRON BRON wins the WHOLE SHE BANG BANG.

    LOL

    Y’ALL STRAIGHT KILLIN’ HOMIE.

    Nice!

    I look at like this:

    Do you really wanna be swept this year??

    Then let Boston beat you. ‘Cause the most formidable opponenent, THUS FAR, is resting and snacking and sexxing and game-planning and chilling and smiling at the prospect of not having to face the crown-less KING. hahaha

  168. JAY says:

    @johnsacrimoni
    Yes, from what you posted in 118, you don’t get it. It’s not about him having a bad game. He didn’t show up. how many “superstars” don’t show up for games? That’s the point. That’s EVERYONE’s point. Everyone has a right to a bad game, but not take take the day off. Last night, the team would have been better off without him. you can’t say that for Mike, Kobe, hell, not even D.Fisher! If shots aren’t falling, he could have went for every rebounds. Set up his teammates. ANYTHING! If it were a game of hot potato, he would have won easily.

    Maybe him and Griffey both went for dinner earlier in the day because they both napped during their games.

  169. Captain Fantastic says:

    KG in the same sentence as MJ? hah! KG is an absolute looney tunes.

  170. JAY says:

    30 more to go to 200. Can we make it?

  171. sh!tfaced says:

    Hahaha @ “Maybe him and Griffey both went for dinner earlier in the day because they both napped during their games.”

  172. sh!tfaced says:

    28 more to go to 200….

  173. jimmyjack says:

    @JAY — “He didn’t show up. how many “superstars” don’t show up for games? That’s the point. That’s EVERYONE’s point.”

    Let’s see, Kobe in the multiple playoff games where he clearly stopped trying … Garnett and his numerous playoff chokes … Pierce has been pulling no-shows this season … Pippen when he chose not to show up for a last-second play … Dirk and Nash multiple times … Carmelo and Bosh multiple times … T-Mac and Vince have made careers out of it … Shaq in recent years …

    Really the only guys you can say ALWAYS show up are Jordan and Duncan, and they didn’t even perfect their postseason killer abilities until they were older than 25. LeBron is 25 right now. You say the Cavs would have been better off without him last night? That proves you’re just blinded by your dislike of LeBron. That’s the latest dumb shit I’ve heard today. What are you gonna tell me next, Orlando is better off without Dwight?

  174. Ian says:

    dizzle
    damn man lucky he got that title outta the way

  175. lebrons supportin cast says:

    I was just waiting for the “Lebron’s supporting cast isnt good” argument. All season long all that I have been hearing is how a deep of a team the Cavs are and how they are favored to win the championship, etc… I knew that not only was Bron not a good closer to actually win a championship but that his scrubby teammates like Mo williams and Jamison havent done shit in their careers and always fall short in the playoffs, but I just kept on listening to how deep they were.

    Now that they are losing, its back to the argument of how bad his supporting cast. Yeah, no shit, it happens every year. I just wish people would stop flip flopping on their picks all the time.

    And how about this… maybe the fact that Lebron’s supporting cast isnt showing up could be attributed to Lebron James not making his teammates better? Whatever happened to that? I remember very clearly back when Kobe was struggling with the Lakers that people kept shitting on him because he didnt make his teammates better, even though he had Smush Parker and Brian Cook along with Chris Mihm starting on his team.

    Its such a double standard… and that is why we hate Lebron James

  176. Joe Cooley High says:

    LeBron deserves grief for what he did (or didn’t do) last night, but a lot of you are going way overboard.

    Is LeBron cocky? Yep, and so was Jordan, and so was Kobe, and so was Barkley, and they were all cocky BEFORE they even got to the NBA.

    You guys don’t understand how athletes work. All of them are cocky because they’re really good at what they do, and they have to be highly confident in order to succeed in sports. Even wack-jobs like Ricky Williams and Dennis Rodman are confident bordering on cocky about their abilties — that’s just how it is. Throw in that somebody like LeBron has been told since he was a kid that he’s Akron’s savior, the King, the greatest, etc., and try to pretend like he shouldn’t be cocky. So hating on LeBron for being cocky is just dumb, especially when every other superstar — yes, even Tim Duncan and Steve Nash — are also cocky.

  177. Ian says:

    someone mentioned that jordan dropped 60 plus on boston and won that series?? my man jordan got knocked that fuck out he got bounced in 3.

  178. sh!tfaced says:

    I would love to see some proof of Tim Duncan and Steve Nash being cocky…

  179. sh!tfaced says:

    Especially Tim Duncan. Maybe some Grant Hill too while you’re at it…?

  180. fallinup says:

    Tim Duncan is a friggin dick!

  181. LakeShow84 says:

    Jordan dropped 60 in the Garden AS A ROOKIE..

    And you could argue thats what started all the hoopla.. But considering who he did it against.. Once again, try to stay with me, it was EARNED..

    And jesus people learn your facts..

  182. LakeShow84 says:

    19 more to go!!!

  183. fallinup says:

    If Dime doesn’t have a live blog going come game 6 and possibly game 7… they be slippin. :)

  184. the cynic says:

    too much to read so ill just say something im sure has been posted; best night for the knicks in the last 10 years

  185. K Dizzle says:

    Can Kobe have his crown back or do we have to wait til we win it again this year?
    just sayin…..

  186. the cynic says:

    cavs need to give delonte and hickson more tick, and give less to Mo and Shaq

  187. k24be says:

    @176 John Cooley..
    There’s Cocky and there’s Confident. Lebron is a cockyass nigguh, who i believe might not even have confidence in himself….

  188. Ian says:

    lakeshow
    comon pleaseee tell me who guarded him??? those 60pts are as relevant as the bron game winner vs orlando in last years ecfs.

  189. tp says:

    did kobe give up in game 7 vs the suns? yes he did. he spent the first half with guns blazing, hit crazy shots, and the lead went from like 17 to 15 from the first quarter to the second. he gave up the second half when it was “clearly” over. his team had given up. he gave up. he proved a point. excusable? no of course not (thats why we still bring it up). but understandable? YES. they were the freakin 7th seed, and he wasnt happy cuz his team was clearly not good enough.

    flash forward 4 years. lebron gave up completely here, before the game was out of hand. completely different set of circumstances. excusable? of course not. understandable? NOT AT ALL. go back before the playoffs started and almost everyone had the cavs as the clear cut favorite to win the championship. they werent no 7 seed (starting kwame, luke, and smush) trying to beat a 2 seed. this was a #1 seed with a team BUILT for him, going against stars on the cusp of decline.

    this is apples and oranges guys. please dont be stupid. i may be a hater, but i know lebron deserved that mvp and is generally better than kobe. but ur crazy if u think lebrons better than kobe at this very moment. go back to december and january and see the stuff kobe was putting up before he started to get REALLY banged up. does this mean lebron can use his elbow excuse? hell no. i’m pretty sure every headline said “lebrons elbow is just fine as cavs romp celtics in game 3 at the garden”

    peace.

  190. Chicagorilla says:

    @190 comments

    This is why media outlets use Lebron on covers and why he will be the biggest free agent in the history of sports. Because like Ali/Mayweather/Jordan/Magic/Bird if you hate him or love him, you still watch/read any info on him or highlights.

  191. Hoops wannabe says:

    I wonder if Lebron ever watched his doc “More than a Game”. If he did he’d know exactly what he needs to fix to rise to the top. He needs to listen to the coach. It’s obvious that everyone on the team is looking up to Lebron to lead the way and is tuning out Mike Brown. Brown realized that this team was not focused after game 2 and expressed that there was urgency to right the ship. But of course Lebron begged to differ. When the star isn’t listening to the coach and questioning the coaches words, this team is lost. Better luck next year, and the next.

    You can’t question the supporting cast becoz he thanked them for getting him his MVP. Meaning without them he wouldn’t be a 2 time MVP. So why doesn’t he repay them by getting them a ring?

  192. LakeShow84 says:

    @ Ian

    I wasnt talking to you man lol come on now..

    i shot that at dude who said he won that series..

    @ KDizz

    Nah its all about the stats bruh.. Lebron will be MVP and the best player for the next 6-7 years.. While Kobes will probably reap 2-3 more Finals MVP’s and bow out with 6-7 rings..

    And ill take that lol

  193. Three Stacks says:

    It’s not that I dislike Lebron James. I acknowledge he is a unique talent, an amazing basketball player, and even though I put no merit in an athlete’s “personality,” he seems to be a likable guy. But for some reason, I want the man to fail.

    I think it foremost has to do w/ his ability. There is little doubt in my mind that he will eventually win a championship, somewhere. But the longer he goes without winning, the more fascinating his career becomes. He’s so good that his FAILURE is more news than his success. I want him to fail just to see how he reacts to it, how much the pressure affects him as the years go by, etc. And all this may sound evil, but I don’t think it is. Cause like I said, I have little doubt he will eventually win a championship. And, if when its all said and done, he DOESN’T have a ring? I guarantee every ball fan will look back on LBJ’s career and think it was the most tragic thing for him to fail w/ all that ability, no matter how you feel about him now.

    Another part of it, I think, is that many fans see him as a direct threat to the success of their favorite team. For instance, I’m from LA, bleed purple and gold. And although part of me wants to see a Lakers-Cavs finals this year so we’d be privileged enough to witness Kobe vs Lebron for a chip while Kobe still has some semblance of greatness left in him, I’d rather see Lebron lose now. Cause Lebron scares the hell outta me. No one’s gonna care who Kobe played to win his 5th ring years from now. I don’t need him to stand in the way of my team’s legacy.

    And of course there is the issue of his upcoming free agency. A lot of people just want him to fail, for now, cause they feel it will increase the chances of Lebron coming to their team. Whether there is any validity to this, we will see.

  194. Chicagorilla says:

    22yrd old poses as 16yr old highschool b-ball player Jerry Joseph. Now he’s in jail. Wonder if Greg Oden and Lebron will be caught too

  195. Three Stacks says:

    The argument that Lebron is too arrogant or cocky, or receives too much media hype…it’s for fans who feel the need to bring the sport off the court and make it about issues that have nothing to do w/ basketball.

  196. EN FUEGO says:

    bullshit. mike brown is a dumbass. the cavs roster is as deep as they come. but all he does is rely on lebron night in and night out. we just saw what happened. coach cleveland brown had no clue what to do in case lebron had a bad game.

    kobe and lebron again? its obvious lebron is the better player now, but lbj still hasn’t mastered the game the way kobe has. its what separates mamba from the rest, he has mastered basketball the way jordan did at the peak of his powers.

  197. EN FUEGO says:

    lebron is arrogant and cocky. just check out the video links posted above. geez, the way he treated the ballboy. what a douche.

  198. EN FUEGO says:

    @194

    dikembe mutombo never got caught..

  199. EN FUEGO says:

    one ninety-nine

  200. EN FUEGO says:

    TWO HUNDRED! HAHAHAHAHA

  201. Ian says:

    lakeshow
    sorry man my bad.

  202. QQ says:

    Is this some kind of record? Over 200 posts?

  203. Ian says:

    qq
    dont know i remember one article we went into the 200s also.

  204. fallinup says:

    Nah… especially with them contests going on last year… and especially after some big time playoff games… I’ve seen 200 break many times.

  205. 6th man! says:

    Will Lebron come thru now that’s he is needed most, or will he disappoint us once AGAIN? All Jordan Comparisons seem very premature now, dont they? Check out:

    Http://courtside.blogspot.com

  206. Hoops wannabe says:

    Just throwing this out there but… Lebron James with a mystery elbow injury. Doesn’t it seem like a perfect excuse to avoid having to report to team USA? It would be a “valid” reason for skipping worlds. Just sayin…

  207. Conoro says:

    “… a certain ‘chip.”

    Only in your wet dreams, I’m assuming?

  208. wifey says:

    hahahaha the LeELBOW ahahahah.

    Fuck off DIME, you guys can make countless amount of cock riding LeHYPE articles, but he’ll still be an overrated, overhyped doucher.

  209. johnsacrimoni says:

    @JAY
    You’re right, I don’t get it. You are clearly of superior intellect and know everything about the NBA, the playoffs, superstars, and LeBron James. I don’t think you quite understand what I was saying. Regardless of whether he “showed up” or not it is still ONE GAME.

  210. bola says:

    fire Mike Brown! so much for my dreams of a kobe-lebron showdown.. yeah, i know how you feel, Mr. Stern..

  211. dagwaller says:

    @ K Diz and Lakeshow

    My two favorite Lakers fans (if there is such a thing haha).

    No, no one’s giving Kobe back his crown. LeBron is the best player in the League now. Was Paul Pierce the best player in the world when he won the championship? No. Same logic applies now. Kobe might have the better team, which is what it’s all about, but he’s not the best player anymore.

    And I almost LOLed at Kobe winning 2-3 more chips. He MIGHT win one more. Maybe. If he can get past a solid Suns team or the Cavs (best regular season record), the Celtics (last team to beat the Lakers in the Finals) or the Magic (last years opponent has gotten better).

    Next year, though? I think this is the last year for the Lakers to be the favorites.

  212. dagwaller says:

    PS I’m kinda with jimmyjack on a lot of these points…

  213. down since the beginning says:

    This is why i fucking hate lebron james.
    this was taking from an article posted on yahoo.com quoting lebron james.
    “I spoil a lot of people with my play. When you have three bad games in seven years, it’s easy to point them out.”

    I mean honestly who the fuck do you think you are. You have god gift of talent there is no doubt, but what makes you think so highly of yourself? websites riding your cock like dime?

    lebron forever will do the things to make himself stand out but never achieve anything for his team.

    i’ve said it before and i’ll say it again. Lebron is a bitch period. he ain’t no kobe

  214. down since the beginning says:

    here’s there article as well if anyone wants to check it out. http://ca.sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AgK7Or3i_xuR.dOwfwWXDtjqbwM6?slug=aw-lebroncavs051210

  215. johnsacrimoni says:

    I think Adande says it best:
    http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2010/columns/story?columnist=adande_ja&page=lebron-100512

  216. spock says:

    come on people, lets not get into these. his teammates are not stepping up. its plain and simple.

    1 vs. 5 is not going to get the job done. what he needs is for the ENTIRE TEAM to match the Celtics.

  217. EN FUEGO says:

    teammates or not, i still say coach cleveland brown is an idiot.

  218. Ike says:

    I used to dislike lebron because he never had a chance to have his own image or personality. While 17 years old he already was given his nicknames and his image was designed. He grew into that love, believed it all, and became a douche. What he said after the game sums up his attitude. Its what would come from a player that can’t shake hands, talks about how humble he is then keeps talking about himself, and dances during games:

    “I spoil a lot of people with my play. When you have three bad games in seven years, it’s easy to point them out.”

    I’m an architect and though I can’t deny Frank Lloyd Wright was a frickin’ genius, his arrogance made him detestable. LETS SEE SOME GRACE!

  219. Josh says:

    Personally I hate the way Lebron is all marked up with the most conceited tattoos ever. Beast, Chosen One, King, Witness, History, Hold My Own,Crowns..etc. He (WE) wanted to crown himself before he did anything. Lebron is nasty, but he needs to sit at the table and eat that humble pie. Until then he will always be a King with no gold.

  220. JAY says:

    @jimmycrack
    “You say the Cavs would have been better off without him last night? That proves you’re just blinded by your dislike of LeBron.”
    How does this make me blinded?? Going to war with someone on your side who isn’t willing to shoot is more harmful than not having him there. He played hot potato all night.

    Anyway, I’m done with Tuesday’s game… tonight is gut-check time for LBJ. I’m sure he’ll have a much better game than the trash he came out with last game.

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