Magic Steal Momentum, Win Game 5
Dwight Howard (photo. Mannion)
If this looks a lot like yesterday’s Smack, that’s because both NBA conference finals are starting to look strangely identical. Just like Lakers/Suns, the Celtics/Magic series was initially playing out like a varsity-versus-JV scrimmage, but now the team we thought would be gone fishin’ already has jacked the momentum and set the stage for what could be an unlikely Game 7 … Vince Carter, Rashard Lewis and Jameer Nelson each knocked down three-pointers in the opening minutes of the first quarter, setting the tone for the rest of the night. J.J. Redick and Matt Barnes kept up the long-range assault, as Orlando hit 13-of-25 beyond the arc. In the fourth quarter, Jameer (24 pts, 5 rebs, 5 asts) put the nails in the coffin — just like he did in overtime of Game 4 — when he dropped back-to-back triples to push the lead to almost 20 … Dwight Howard (21 pts, 10 rebs, 5 blks) was a monster. His first-quarter highlight reel included him running over Paul Pierce like Greg Jones trucked Dexter Reid before dunking on P-Double, then chasing down Rajon Rondo to spike his layup off the glass. But Dwight’s still gonna get clowned during film session because he let Nate Robinson block his shot … And just when you thought Rashard was setting up a big asterisk by revealing he’s been dealing with a viral infection, he went out and played his best game of the series. When Orlando began the fourth quarter with Dwight, Jameer and Vince (8 pts, 3-10 FG) on the bench, Rashard (14 pts, 7 rebs) carried the offense and hit some clutch buckets to keep Boston out of reach … Forget that it was a blowout; you’d be hard-pressed to find a Celtics fan who won’t blame this one on the refs. Probably because Game 4 damn near turned into a rugby match, they were calling things super tight on Wednesday, as displayed by Kendrick Perkins‘ first-half ejection. The ESPN announcers and studio heads were unanimous in defending Perk — hit with a ticky-tack foul on Dwight, then slapped with his second technical for “arguing” with his back turned and walking away from Eddie Rush — but at the same time, we can see where the refs may have been coming from. “I don’t understand why you have to interject your anger into a game,” Jeff Van Gundy said, but put yourself in the zebra stripes. You’ve been hearing the players bitch and moan about everything for five games now and almost lost control last time out; you have to draw the line somewhere. Perkins unfortunately became the example, but after he got the boot the players noticeably toned it down. Even Rasheed Wallace‘s arguments weren’t as fiery … The Magic were hit with a couple of techs, too, but the worst call against them was the NBA going back and upgrading Dwight’s Game 4 elbow to Kevin Garnett to a Flagrant-1. The balder Van Gundy said it best: “The NBA. Where soft happens.” … Perkins could be suspended for Game 6, though it’s unlikely because the League will probably rescind at least one of the technicals he got last night. (Because that doesn’t do more damage to public perception of the refs than players/coaches complaining in interviews.) But Big Baby and Marquis Daniels likely won’t play after suffering concussions: Daniels got hurt when his head rammed into Marcin Gortat‘s chest — apparently the man really is a Polish Hammer — and Big Baby took a Dwight elbow to the head that surely felt more like a cinder block. If Rasheed Wallace gets in foul trouble again, Doc Rivers might have to get a jersey for Julius Peppers, who was sitting next to Boston’s bench … Whether you’d prefer Chris Bosh or Pau Gasol on your squad, can we all set one thing straight? Neither one of them is “by far” or “hands down” better than the other. That just is never the case with two All-Star caliber NBA players. Anyway, if you missed it yesterday, check out our latest “Who’s Better?” debate and tell us your choice … And because Shaq is obviously incapable of keeping his name out of the headlines even when he’s not playing, he’s been a topic in MMA circles lately. The Diesel apparently thinks he can beat Chuck Liddell in a fight, and not for nothing, Shaq has been doing MMA training for years in the offseason. Still, we don’t see that ending well for The Big Tap-Out … We’re out like Perk …
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May 27th, 2010 at 4:16 am
Bruce says:
I just became a fan of Dime on Facebook.
I want to see Shaq in the ring. Dude is going to get KTFO!
May 27th, 2010 at 4:21 am
Bruce says:
Big Baby is hurt and so is Marquis Daniels. Sheed tweaked his back. WTMF? Where is Paul Pierce BROOM for the sweep?
Pierce better get his wheel-chair too!
May 27th, 2010 at 4:25 am
quest??? says:
lmao “the big tap out” thats a nice nickname.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:29 am
the cynic says:
the refs hate Perkins, the guy was called for 2 ridiculous fouls and 2 ridiculous techs
May 27th, 2010 at 4:29 am
common sense says:
why are dime seriously trying to defend the refs ejection of perks. SERIOUSLY. it was indefensible. ejecting a player for that, especially when the stakes are so high. leaves me questioning who pays your bills. Stern?
any sport that the officiating is mentioned as much as the NBA has a serious problem. clearly, mass manipulation occurs in the NBA and Donaghy certainly was not the only one.
but without evidence this is just speculation. but it sure does leave a bad taste in my mouth.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:36 am
hahns says:
basketball is the toughest sport to call objectively and consistently. the players are constantly in such close proximity throughout the entire course of the game, and there is non-stop action. The problem b/t the donaghies and the legit refs is that the results of crooked refs and honest refs can be indistinguishable.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:49 am
common sense says:
this is a capitalist, money driven society. none more so than US. NBA is loosing money. the more games played the more revenue. questionable calls, such swings of fortunes from series to series. DO THE MATH. ‘Kansas is going BYE BYE’ indeed.
and i’m calling out DIME. you clearly have a conflict of interest and certain biases with regards to reporting most stories and the stance you take on certain stories. when last has the media been able to report a story/rumour without worrying about offending a certain paymaster or potential future paymaster. the days of the free press are long since over and may NEVER EVER RETURN.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:57 am
Soopa says:
Well no one beats Orlando when they hit 13 threes while shooting above 50% from long range. They had some of their swagger back aswell.
And how ironic is it that the only 3 healthy Cs at this point is The Big 3?
Looking forward to game 6, its gonna be big time.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:59 am
Soopa says:
@ common sense
It it very “interesting” the way two blow out series are suddenly dead even…
May 27th, 2010 at 5:23 am
r says:
yall saw space jam right? when big baby fell down yesterday and had trouble getting up, it looked like the scene in space jam when the monstars aliens take away the nba players’ talent lol
May 27th, 2010 at 5:31 am
808 says:
“Even Rasheed Wallace’s arguments weren’t as fiery”
That’s straight up stupid. What the heck is wrong with “fiery” arguments? I can see if you’re complaining and making a “fiery” argument right in a ref’s face, but Rasheed Wallace yelling as he walks back to the bench, or Perkins walking away and complaining…..what the hell is wrong with that?
So yah, I don’t understand your “put yourself in the refs’ shoes” comment. Just because you have to hear the players “bitch and moan about everything”, that’s not a good reason to give a player a technical. How is Perkins’s reaction contributing to a loss of control to the game??? Give me break….
Eddie Rush is mad that Perkins is making mad faces at the crowd, even if he is over 50 feet away so he T’s him up. That’s called “interjecting your anger into a game.”
May 27th, 2010 at 5:43 am
808 says:
Ha…and then you say:
“The Magic were hit with a couple of techs, too, but the worst call against them was the NBA going back…”
If you don’t like the NBA’s upgrade of the Howard foul, how can you not get upset at refs taking player reactions too personally? The knee-jerk reaction of the league to call Howard’s elbow flagrant is the exact same thing as what refs like Eddie Rush is doing.
I apologize for taking up so much space re: this argument, but IMO, bad officiating needs to be pointed out. These guys gotta be held accountable if they let the officiating become too big of a factor in the game/series. Calls like these shouldn’t be praised, defended, or justified…it should be criticized. Call the refs out when they screw up.
C’mon Dime…you’re better that….
May 27th, 2010 at 5:51 am
Three Stacks says:
Liddell can’t really grapple that well and he’s old as hell now. I think Shaq can win that fight.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:03 am
Atom says:
The first T was whack, should be rescinded. Second T was pretty consistent with the latitude they received to make “showing up the ref” calls. Perkins knew he had a tech, he should have been more careful. Shitty foul call though, can see why he was pissed. Sometime u have to bite your tongue when they r calling it tight.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:05 am
smoove chips says:
damn the Magic bringing it.
welcome back to the playoffs rashard.
still don’t see them cracking the celts two more times.would I mind it .Not in the least.they both bringing it so our title’s gon be legit
Lakers vs whoever,whenever,wherever
repeat mofos.can’t stop it !!
May 27th, 2010 at 6:18 am
alf (from melmak) says:
Classic funny Dime at some parts today. Polish hammer, Yeah!
Dime, like I said the other day, Boston-Orlando could go Game 7. If the Celtics fail to reach the NBA finals, all Doc Rivers has to do is watch the last two minutes of the fourth quarter of Game 4 to see what went wrong.
I am not a fan of the MMA. If the Big Diesel really wants to put some pain and harm on his body, why not get into the ring against any of the Klitscko brothers instead?
Top 100 reasons why Dime should hire me as one of its regular writers.
86. I can introduce (If they do not know them yet.) and play the music of Aztec Camera, Big Audio Dynamite, Soft Cell, The Alarm, The Colourfield, The Housemartins, The Wild Swans, and XTC (for starters) in the office.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:24 am
A.R. says:
Kendricks Perkins needs to be ejected every game. That guy bitches more than my mother.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:26 am
Fish says:
Didn’t the magic do exactly the same thing last year? Dig themselves into a hole, then come back only to be beaten in game 7.
May 27th, 2010 at 6:44 am
Rafa23 says:
@ Fish
NO, not at all.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:00 am
common sense says:
also. vince is a bitch! seriously.
May 27th, 2010 at 7:43 am
Quedas says:
@ Fish
“Didn’t the magic do exactly the same thing last year? Dig themselves into a hole, then come back only to be beaten in game 7″
Dude, are you retarted or did you just start following the NBA this year? The Magic went to the Finals last year…
May 27th, 2010 at 7:52 am
lifep says:
I wonder if Dwight Howard and Matt Barnes are getting along since both of their significant others are on Basketball wives??
May 27th, 2010 at 8:07 am
92021SpurMD says:
Are some of you REALLY saying that these series’ turned cause the refs/NBA made it happen, REALLY?? So apparently the players don’t need to make shots every once in a while? Let’s be serious here. Basketball refs have it harder than any other sport, with the constant action and never ending close proximity each team’s players are within each other. Let’s just call it what it really is, good and bad calls are made on the regular, live with it.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:08 am
That's What's Up says:
Shaq vs. Liddell would look like Andre The Giant versus Mini-Me
May 27th, 2010 at 8:12 am
That's What's Up says:
Alf – reason 86 is more proof you won’t be at DIME. New Wave bands from the 80′s???
Sheeeiiiiitttt – they’re more likely to bring the Naked Cowboy into the office to play them music.
ALF – just change your posts to: Top 100 reasons why Dime won’t hire me as a regular writer……..and it would be more believeable
May 27th, 2010 at 8:21 am
sh!tfaced says:
“just change your posts to: Top 100 reasons why Dime won’t hire me as a regular writer……..and it would be more believable”
LMAO! That sounds like one hell of an advice, man.
…and oh yeah, how could you forget The Smiths, New Order, Depeche Mode and The Clash…? Sheeeeiiiiit… lol
May 27th, 2010 at 8:29 am
Ianny b says:
Perkins bitches too much, he by far the most obnoxious with The Gooch on his heels for second place.
Go Magic!!!!!!!!!!!
May 27th, 2010 at 8:29 am
alf (from melmak) says:
@sh!tfaced
Because The Smiths, New Order, Depeche Mode, and The Clash are already well known by the public. You have to go a bit deeper without alienating your intended audience if you want to introduce a form of music.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:31 am
SJ says:
Glen Davis’ new nickname: Wobbles
Shaq would get KTFO by Liddel, hands down, one-sided fight that would end in 10 seconds or less. It’d be like Rocky vs Hogan, where Rocky thinks it’s for charity… only the ‘underdog’ would be layed to rest. Stick with reserve officer duty, Shaq, don’t mess with the Iceman, he’ll put you out cold. Dude has a punch like Tua.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Ianny b says:
BTW Rasheed caught a bad case of Lebron where he thought JJ Reddick(of all persons) was boning his mom. Turns out it was Stan Van Gundy,so he has lightened up a bit, Just ask Calvin Murphy.
May 27th, 2010 at 8:45 am
sh!tfaced says:
@ alf
Oh, okay. I dig, man. Should’ve said something like Joy Division instead…?
May 27th, 2010 at 8:48 am
stupid says:
hey dime how about a nickname contest for Kendrick Perkins!
May 27th, 2010 at 8:54 am
Kermit The Washington says:
Remember how Stern was so adamant that Donaghy was “acting alone”? Well, he was only referring to the GAMBLING. Donaghy has admitted to two acts; 1.) gambling, and 2.) purposely spinning games to affect the outcome, in which he was NOT acting alone.
Crawford is right up there with Donaghy with putting his stamp on games. It’s not just Celts fans who noticed it this time, dime. It was way too obvious. Crawford-led referee groups are notorious by now.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:05 am
JAY says:
The Magic have gotten their act together because they’ve stopped waiting for Vince to show up. Very simple.
QQ, I told you about that bitch a few months ago when he scored 47pts. He’ll have one HUGE game then not show up for 15-20. When he has that huge game, his supporters say “SEE He’s still sick!!”. Fuck that. His soft ass bleeds silicone. I used to be a fan of his, then reality set in. He is NOT a guy you can depend on to go to battle with. I’d rather someone who consistently battles night-in and night-out who averages less than Vince. At lease you know what to expect.
Vince wears panty-hose.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:08 am
sans says:
There’s a reason that Perk doesn’t get mic’d up for the game…and none of us know what he said to the ref…if Perk called the ref “Donaghy” or insulted him, once it’s personal, it’s a technical…most refs don’t mind is players ask questions, and yall city League politicians are the worst…and dirty players that hammer people all night and whine with every whistle get under the old nerves, right quick….
May 27th, 2010 at 9:13 am
isotope says:
where’s QQ? I know he’s going to cause havoc on here today after last night’s game.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:14 am
Dapro says:
Refs clearly wanted to be the stars this game- Dime no way you can support the refs on the Perkins techs or even Rondo’s T. Bball is an emotional game, Perk wasn’t be demonstrative at all. He got pissed off but walked away. Rondo was calmly talking to another ref but Crawford has to jump in to show up not only the ref but Rondo. Celts have to close it out in 6.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:15 am
fallinup says:
Ahhhh… Joey Crawford…. NBA’s consecutive winner of the 6th man of the season award.
NBA refs were collectively on the rag last night. Perks 2, Rondos 1 were easily the most laughable techs of the playoffs. If the League doesn’t step in and fake away at leat 1 of Perks techs, consider this series scarred for life.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:19 am
JAY says:
MBA Playoffs = Mafia Basketball Association
May 27th, 2010 at 9:25 am
dagwaller says:
Watched the game. First of all, Dwight didn’t get blocked by Nate Robinson. Nate karate chopped Dwight’s wrist/forearm. Maybe if he was 6’1″ instead of 5′whatever”, he could’ve gotten there, and you might have noticed he tried to do the same thing to Rashard Lewis later and got called for it. Oops.
I found the announcers attacking of the refs to be over the top. I usually notice when they DON’T jump on a bad call. Makes me think that the network or the league has told them not to do so.
Which made it even more conspicuous last night! I can imagine the League rescinding the first T on Perkins – the elbow – because only upon slow mo replay can you see that his grip on PP’s hand slipped and he elbowed Gortat. But the second one was where they had the biggest beef, and that was the most clear violation, to me. You can CLEARLY see him shout the words, “That’s F—ing Bull S—, man!” as he stormed off the way only a 7 foot sourpuss like him can.
A couple seasons ago, the league went out of their way to say that they were going to call more techs! They cited “upstaging the refs” as a specific violation. Perk upstaged the refs in a big way, and appropriately got penalized for it.
Furthermore, I hope that along with rescinding Perk’s first tech, they upgrade Pierce’s foul on Redick to some kind of flagrant. Fouling him, then shoving him to the ground? If that went the other way around, there would’ve been hell to pay.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:29 am
GM says:
Does anybody else think Redick should be starting ahead of Vince at this point? He’s shooting well, playing with confidence, and overall his numbers are far better than Carter’s.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:32 am
Mike says:
Dag got it right. You cant always see the reason for a tech. Perkins was lippin the ref prior to that also, was told to stfu. Also, Pierce needs to be given the Howard rebound special. (which might be the dirtiest play in this series, dwights rebounding….)
May 27th, 2010 at 9:42 am
JAY says:
@dagwaller
“You can CLEARLY see him shout the words, “That’s F—ing Bull S—, man!” as he stormed off the way only a 7 foot sourpuss like him can.”
-Players say that to ref’s faces all the time and don’t get T’d. I’ve even seen Sheed scream that phrase in refs faces and not get T’d. What was the difference last night? The important words in your sentence are “as he stormed off”. He walked away from the refs when he said that. It was a bad call.
“Perk upstaged the refs in a big way”
-How?? by walking away?? or by swearing??
I have a BIG problem with the NBA refs. It was painfully obvious they wanted Orlando to win. How many times were guys fighting for position on the low-block, and the foul was made on the Celts? Both guys are fighting. I don’t think they even called an foul on an Orlando player in that scenario. It looked like they wanted the Celtic bigmen out of the game. If both guys are fighting for position, it’s either a non-call or you alternate magic foul, then celtic foul and repeat until they clean it up. Not celtic foul, celtic foul, celtic foul… etc.
Stern is the puppetmaster. He pulls the strings. If he truly wanted unbiased officials, he would punish Joey Crawford and not allow him to ref potential series-swinging games. Instead, Joey Crawford is ALWAYS reffing important games. There’s a pattern here. If you can’t see that, wake up.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:45 am
bakedbeing says:
Jay if you think the Magic have been waiting for Vince to show up you didn’t watch games 1 and 2, where he was the only one playing like he hadn’t pissed his pants at the sight of the Celtics defense.
May 27th, 2010 at 9:52 am
bakedbeing says:
P.S. to everyone talking conspiracy theories, grow up. There are more than enough reasons for mistakes in the high speed, high pressure world of reffing to allow for all the stuff ups that happen in real games without stretching out with another boring corporate conspiracy theory. You really think that if they just decided to they could stop making mistakes/bad calls and run everything perfectly? No emotion or human error? That all the mistakes are planned in NBA meetings?
May 27th, 2010 at 9:54 am
JJ says:
did shaq not see how the kimbo side show worked out?
May 27th, 2010 at 10:03 am
common sense says:
@Kermit The Washington, truth be told, the only difference between Donaghy, Crawford, Bevetta and whoever is reffing a game is that Donaghy was stupid enough to get caught. Donaghy got caught not because he was fixing matches but because he was betting on these fixes. you see that was his crime. fixing the matches actually didn’t matter because he was merely doing his job, what he was trained to do. and he did it well. in fact he was one of the best. if not for him trying to make more money on the side he’d still be reffing matches today and fixing games for his paymasters, Stern. when stern made the statement that he was acting alone. SERIOUSLY SON. who the fuck were you trying to convince. and whoever believed him (@92021SpurMD , #23) WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
the NBA has zero credibility and all their actions with regards to blocking and censoring Donaghies initial release of his book, to not allowing any criticism of any ref just goes to further solidify the conspiracy. seriously. its like we all like to ignore the elephant in the room and that BIG ASS elephant is that the sport we love is FAKE. FUGAZI. however you wanna call it. i ignore it for the majority of occasions but every so often i get reminded about the stark reality of the truth. and perkins ejection was that reminder. how sad that i still root for my team (SUNS), and get emotional when they win or loose. whilst fully realising that some of the time the outcome of the contest has already been predetermined. how sad.
situations like the GASOL theft perpetrated by the Lakers on Memphis only goes to further support the conspiracy. big market team. superduperstar Kobe malcontent in the off season calling for a trade. if Kobe left LA that would be a massive financial loss for the NBA. next thing we know. Memphis give away Gasol for a pack of pringles with a large tub of Dip. seriously. that trade made no sense. benefited Memphis in no way, shape or form at the time. only later being improved with Marc Gasols improved play (lucky for Memphis).
seriously. and Stern wants us to believe that they don’t fix the outcome of games. that Gasol trade single handedly altered the fate of the NBA. and don’t even get me started on the draft. by all accounts it seems the NBA, like iv’e said in my previous posts is nothing more than a fairy tale, and we the fans are nothing more than the PAWNS. willingly accepting these anomalies and putting them down to human error, luck or just plain swallowing a lie. all for the purpose of the sport YOU love not to be tainted in YOUR mind so YOU can continue along in YOUR rose tinted world and go and live in YOUR Candy smelling house. WAKE THE FUCK UP!!
and the media. DIME, ESPN, FOX and SI. seriously. never call it the way it is. it sickens me. never demanding transparency of reffing to insure it never happens again. if Donaghy was doing it and Stern says he acted alone and the media simply say ‘OK’. or they raise the question as to appear unbiased then a month later the conspiracy is forgotten about. imagine if it came out that there were several refs fixing matches. the NBA would loose all credibility and would go bankrupt overnight. fans would stop attending, tv ratings would rightfully drop and that would be that. but that will NEVER happen.
the NBA is just like society and life. JUSTICE, HONESTY and HARD WORK get you no were. LIES, DECEIT and GREED ultimately prevail. how sad!!
May 27th, 2010 at 10:05 am
Jeremiah Togstad says:
It’s funny how people are defending the refs – “Oh, they have the hardest job out there, give them a break.”
No. I will not give them a break. And they do not have the hardest job out there. You know who does have the hardest job: the fucking guy who has to clean the restrooms after 1000′s of people have pissed and shit all over the place. Fuck that.
Kobe and Dwight Howard cry and complain on almost every drive to the basket. I see them yell, cuss, whine, and they rarely get T’d up.
Kendrick Perkins gets called for his first tech for trying to pull up his teammate from the court. His elbow clearly slipped, touching Gortat in the chest. What the fuck was Gortat doing so close to Perk’s back? Either Gortat was trying to get close behind Perk to steal the ball, whisper sweet nothings into Perk’s ear, or to get his grind on.
And the second tech came after a shitty call against Perk who was just trying to play post defense on Dwight. Perk walked away and said “that’s bullshit.” If you watch NBA regularly, you’ll see that that kind of reaction happens all the time with no repercussions. Are players not allowed to vent by walking away? Just ridiculous.
And then Joey Crawford – well we all know what find of idiot he can be. Picking fights with Tim Duncan, poking Greg Pop’s chest, and other unprofessional shit like that proves that Joey Crawford loves getting involved with the heat of the action. That’s cool, except for the fact that he is supposed to be a neutral party. To not let Rondo have a respectful discussion with another ref is absurd. So players aren’t allowed to ask refs questions now?
I don’t believe in the David Stern conspiracy theory bullshit. I just think that was atrocious and biased refereeing.
Expect Boston to come out angry next game and fatality Orlando.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:06 am
control says:
Anyone who thinks the refs are “just making honest mistakes because reffing is such a hard job” is a fucking idiot. There is, and always has been an agenda (even if it’s not completely clear). There is no other sport, with exception of figure skating (russian judges anyone?) where officiating has had such a major impact on the outcome of the game.
Again, I see shit like “the refs were trying to get control of the game” and people think that is OK? Refs CONTROLLING a game is fucking WRONG! That is EXACTLY what they do, and people are like “well, the refs just have a hard job”. Fuck that shit, reffing in the NBA is a complete joke. Only sport in the world where bad reffing decides so many games, it really needs to be fixed otherwise basketball WILL get that reputation of being faked.
I hate the Celts as much as anyone on this site, been called a hater more times than anyone else…and yet watching Perk get completely jobbed by the refs, he has a RIGHT to be pissed off. He gets NO respect at all from the refs, they clearly call fouls on him that they wouldn’t call on anyone else, that is just unfair and biased. I am one of his biggest haters, and yet even I can see how the guy gets played.
The NBA is turning into such a joke with this reffing system that is currently implemented. Every play should be reffed exactly the same, regardless of which “stars” or which people with bad reputations are involved in it…
May 27th, 2010 at 10:13 am
control says:
Also, if saying something like “that is fucking bullshit, motherfucker” is an automatic Tech, how does KG last more than 5 minutes in any game? Ever seen or heard that guy? He drops more motherfuckers than Sammy L Jackson. You can’t see that guy in a close up without reading at least one motherfucker on his lips, doesn’t matter if he’s on the bench, in the game, in the locker room, wearing a suit or entering the arena in street clothes.
Fuck the refs!
May 27th, 2010 at 10:14 am
JAY says:
@bakedbeing
Are you serious?? Vince has played like shit the whole series. Questions arose who was better for the Magic: Vince or Hedo during games 1 and 2. In those games Vince was used as the facilitator… and they lost. The games they’ve won, he’s been used off the ball and gets waaaaaaay less touches than in games 1 and 2. So they’ve gone away from Vince and are using Jameer as the ballhandler and guess what… they are winning games.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:19 am
JAY says:
@bakedbeing
“P.S. to everyone talking conspiracy theories, grow up. ”
To anyone who believes Donaghy acted alone needs to sniff some reality. NBA refereeing is a fraternity. If one guy got caught doing it, there’s more.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am
JAY says:
@control
“Also, if saying something like “that is fucking bullshit, motherfucker” is an automatic Tech, how does KG last more than 5 minutes in any game?”
Exactly! I guess some people here think ball players were raised in suburban connecticut. I’ve seen refs tolerate a lot worse to their face than what Perk said when he WALKED AWAY. I’ve been watching NBA basketball for over 26 years, probably longer than half of the people here have been alive, and i’ve never seen reffing as bad as it was last night.
May 27th, 2010 at 10:24 am
mgballer says:
@ dagwaller
stop whining. are you kidding me?! if pierces foul was flagrant then dwight howards knockout of big baby in game 5, throwing to the ground of pierce in game 5, palming of the face of garnett in game 4, throwing to the ground of kendrick perkins in game 4 and assorted elbows throughout the playoffs were all flagrents. Did i mention Matt Barnes shoving of KG in game 3 in to Ron Jeremy . And there is no way Perk should have gotten thrown out of the game. I don’t even think either technical was appropriate. Just look at Jameer, Vince or Dwights reaction next time they get called for an obvious foul. Bunch of cry babies.
…and for anyone that thinks the magic are in control of this series and that it is now even you are wrong my friend. 3-2 and next game in boston. this series is over. if it gets to 3-3, then come talk to me.
As my friend who is a magic fan put it after that game, “I felt guilty watching the Magic win tonight”.
END OF STORY
Dagwaller, Get your head checked like Big Baby. FOR REAL
May 27th, 2010 at 10:29 am
control says:
I fucking hate the NBA. Here I am having to defend a team I can’t stand, that has players all act like douchebags, all because the fucking refs are WORSE than them. It’s a fucked up world…
May 27th, 2010 at 10:54 am
Mr. Brogden says:
Several observations…
JAMEER is a true professional because:
He has clearly adjusted to Rondo’s aggression. And has realized in order for his team to have a chance, he’s gotta up the ante and answer Rondo’s shots. He’s been doing this…seemingly always probing or popping or passing…seemingly either hitting a backbreaking 3 or going to the line for free points off the clock.
This series is actually winnable for Orlando. Wow.
FYI — JJ CAN and WILL get it poppin off the dribble. Nice to see JJ being aggressive. And hit some bigggggggg time 3s. Take that Rashard. And Vince! Young Buck is thoroughly upstaging the over-paid, over-hyped, over-the-hill-azz vets.
OK, can’t be blazin’ him without praisin’ him. PROPS TO RAW LEW FOR PLAYIN’ STICKY D ON KG. Said it. Done. Moving on.
Damn that was sad to see Glenn like that. Looked like someone just rolled on him. If you don’t know what I’m talking about then that’s probably a good thing.
JJ and Frenchie are outdoing whatever Doc’s throwing out there. With White Cocoa/Bass/Gortat, the Magic were more balanced than the Celtics. This much change. It’s a disturbing trend kinda. TA/Mr.Parker/Finley/Nate they gotta get it going! Sheed shines every now and then but still…
When Rasheed (a backup) is your highest scorer and Rondo (least efficient perimeter shooter) takes the most shots outta any player on any team…yeah BOSTON, you’re GONNA LOSE!
Lastly, DWIGHT is the ultimate LUXURY on a team full of shooters. Nuff said. There was one stretch in the 1st quarter where Orlando went up by like 10 or 15 or sumptin on the strength that Boston couldn’t hit a shot near or around Dwight.
He either blocked it, rearranged it, or made the shooter jack a toughie.
Same stretch, because of this, it seemed Boston either passed out or forced a turnover…matter of fact in this same stretch, he stole the ball too. Props to him.
And oh yeah, y’all give the REFEREES TOOOOOOOO MUCH CREDIT. Get over it. Bad calls happen. They happen in baseball, tennis, football, insert your favorite sport here. Annnddddddd, Perk shouldn’t have been in the position to be ejected if he made it a habit to keep his emotions and words in check. THAT’S BULLSHIT coming from Perk LOOKS and SOUNDS much different than THAT’S BULLSHIT coming from a Goran Dragic. OK?!? REFS get tired with the same s***. Whatever.
He shouldn’t have ACCUMULATED ALL OF THEM DAMN TECHS IN THE 1ST PLACE IS WHAT I’M SAYING.
May 27th, 2010 at 11:04 am
LAballer says:
some thoughts…
i hate the celtics so much i dont celebrate st pattys day but damn did they get phucked on some calls last night..
seriously though..besides being ejected which came later..wtf is perkins so god damn mad about ALL the time? dude looks like one of his teammates boned his mom or something..wait..wait..thats someone else..my bad..
shard actually playing? he’s finally earning that salary…NOT..dude needs to average 40 ppg from now on and lead the magic to a chip before we can even begin talking about it being remotely fair..
dwights elbows are becoming lethal weapons…davis got “KNOCKED THE FUUUUCK OUT MAAAANNN!!”
May 27th, 2010 at 11:06 am
EN FUEGO says:
another prolonging the series marketing strategy by the nba. just like what they did back in 1996 when chicago went up 3-0 against seattle.
stern is making up the lost money they lost with all the sweeps and short outcomes in the 1st and 2nd rounds. squeezing all the fucking milk as much as they. celtics and lakers fans dont have to worry because a boston-la finals will make the most cash. you can count on it being a long series. hahahahahaha
May 27th, 2010 at 11:07 am
Mike says:
C’s in 6 NBA just wants to make this series competitive
May 27th, 2010 at 11:10 am
Real Talk says:
Mr. Brogeden YOU-ARE LAME!!Get of your knees and wipe yo’ mouth….bad calls happen…as if it was 3 or 4..its the no-calls, the inconsistent calls…How does DANIELS not get fouled when he gets pushed off the block and on to the ground…Yet Boston can’t stand their ground in the defensive low block when Howard is running at them full speed…Do you even know the rules? Or even recognize when they are being called or not called?
I like the Magic too but I wanna win clean, so the haters can hussshhhhh.
May 27th, 2010 at 11:39 am
LakeShow84 says:
I gives a f#$k about the C;s getting those calls..
If anything that team gets away with too much bullshit out there half the time..
That game was beautiful to me lol ok jk but after watching Tuesday’s game i damn sure dont care about the C’s getting pricked on calls..
@ JAY
I was saying that to my boy yesterday.. Magic winning because they playing like they dont expect anything from VC.. Got that ball going to Jameer in crunch time and, DARE I SAY IT??
Jameer Nelson is more clutch than Vince Carter??
Damn thats pretty funny..
May 27th, 2010 at 11:40 am
Mr. Brogden says:
@60 – it happens dude.
I’m lame because I don’t get upset over the refs, correct??? Whatever buddy.
Like I said, you (talking to you Real Talk) and others are thrown into a tizzy over bulls***. C’mon, y’all grown azz men actin’ like bitches over this s***. It aint even that serious.
BAD CALL/NO CALL/OTHER CALLS HAPPEN!
Like s***…and taxes…and death…and premature nuttin’…DEAL WITH IT!!!!!
It’s a physical game between big physical specimens and the bottomline is, Refs are like COs out there…they gotta be tuff n flexible…and they have discretionary power to call a call or not call a call.
Factor in the human element — from mistake-making to purposeful unfair-officiating — whatcha gonna do??
Moan and groan on every SMACK???
(alright, done venting…continue to pissed at the refs)
May 27th, 2010 at 11:41 am
LakeShow84 says:
And bigups to Reddick for getting PP on the upfake and drawing the foul..
How Pierce gonna act mad when he does that shit 3-4 times a game?? lol
And if Jameer would upfake and draw the contact, the man would have 5,6-7 more FT’s.. he had foo’s jumpin at him like bunnies yesterday..
May 27th, 2010 at 11:44 am
Fish says:
Ah, it was the opposite. They defeated the Celtics in game 7 last year after a comeback.
May 27th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Who won the Nash shirt DIME????
@ Sh!tfaced
I aint even mad about putting it on the Lakers/Celtics series lol
May 27th, 2010 at 12:27 pm
JAY says:
@LAballer
“i hate the celtics so much i dont celebrate st pattys day”
LMAOoOOooOOOo!!!!!!!!
New contest: How much do you hate the Celtics??
I hate the Celts so much, when I find a lucky, rare 4-leaf clover… I piss on it.
May 27th, 2010 at 12:37 pm
JAY says:
Brogden, you must be right. NBA refs are innocent people who aren’t influence by money or power. They call the game as objectively as possible. I’m 100% sure Donaghy MUST have acted alone because he was the only person caught and David Stern said so. Stern wouldn’t lie. The only thing he would be protecting is his reputation and the NBA product. and if there were other refs involved, i’m sure they would have made themselves public. I’m sticking by your side man. You are soooo right. The refs are only human and everyone is entitled to mistakes. Even if the mistakes appear to be heavily one-sided.
C’est la vie.
Disclaimer: the above statement is sarcasm-filled bullshit.
May 27th, 2010 at 12:44 pm
Mr. Brogden says:
Factor in the human element — from mistake-making to purposeful unfair-officiating —
whatcha gonna do??
Moan and groan on every SMACK???
SOOOO JAY U’VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION.
CONTINUE ON.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:08 pm
control says:
I am all for a Celtic hating contest. My post resume speaks for itself: http://dimemag.com/2010/05/what-boston-must-do-to-win-game-5-tonight/ is a pretty good one.
That is one contest there’s no way I could lose…
May 27th, 2010 at 1:19 pm
LakeShow84 says:
LMAO @ “You are soooo right”
you guys..
i hate the Celtics so much i would rather die of ghonorrhea than travel to Boston..
I hate the Celtics so much i purposely knock down “lucky Charms” cereals when i go grocery shopping..
I hate the Celtics so much i pray we win this series just so i can see the look of the fan @ TD gardens when we take the series.. If i was ballin i would fly there and start shit in the parking lot.. i wouldnt even attend the game i’d just deebo in the parkin lot all night..
May 27th, 2010 at 1:21 pm
LakeShow84 says:
LMAO @ Control..
Tryna get the EPA on your side i see lmao
May 27th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
LakeShow84 says:
@ Brogden
I feel ya man.. No use crying over spilt milk..
But you gotta feel us.. Sometimes its atrocious..
May 27th, 2010 at 1:23 pm
LakeShow84 says:
And for the record i would that 4 leaf clover, put it on some toilet paper and,
Well you all know the rest..
May 27th, 2010 at 1:26 pm
JAY says:
“Factor in the human element — from mistake-making to purposeful unfair-officiating —
whatcha gonna do??
Moan and groan on every SMACK???
SOOOO JAY U’VE ANSWERED MY QUESTION. ”
Good one. What do you think we come here to do? We post our opinions. If we want to complain about the officiating, that’s what we do.
Your hypothetical question could be asked about everything on here.
So Lebron dissappeared again… whatcha gonna do?
talk about how shitty he played?
So Kobe hit another game winner… whatcha gonna do?
talk about how clutch he is??
So Shaq is nicknaming himself again… whatcha gonna do?
talk about how stupid he is??
Yes, Yes, and YES.
In your attempt to make everyone here look foolish for complaining about the refs, you’ve failed miserably. If you don’t like what we’re posting…. perhaps its YOU who should move along.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:31 pm
JAY says:
@Lakeshow
“I hate the Celtics so much i purposely knock down “lucky Charms” cereals when i go grocery shopping..”
LMAO!!!!!!!
I hate the Celts so much, I won’t even waste my time spelling their full team name.
I hate the Celts so much, I beat up an 8yr old the other day because I thought she was a leprechaun.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
control says:
I hate the Celts, and the city of Boston and the people who live there, so much that I have been arrested 3 times and put on the terrorist watch list because I have been plotting OKC style attacks at various places in the city since they won in 2008.
I refuse to let my grass grow green during the playoffs, I bleach it to death.
I hate the Celts so much that I will email spam every single player’s email account every day with hate mail. And their family’s.
I hate the Celts so much that I spent 6 hours a day on Dimemag.com writing posts about how much I hate the Celts…
JAY
I beat up 8 year olds for fun, fuck them being associated with the Celts…
May 27th, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Mr. Brogden says:
I hate the Celts so much, I pimp smack midgets on site just because they remind me of leprechauns.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
JAY says:
@ control
Damn……. your list sounds too specific… like we aren’t playing a game anymore.
Frightening. You win. *scared*
May 27th, 2010 at 1:43 pm
Mr. Brogden says:
jay, save it dude. step off the perch. if u’re serious, file a complaint with the nba. you see they rescinded perk’s tech so yeah s*** happens.
feel free to express your disdain for refs and conspiracy theories. it’s your right. it’s your right to agree with all the other ref complainers.
it’s almost my right disagree with you and you dumb ass complaints.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:49 pm
LAballer says:
i hate the celts so much i rented the movie leprechaun and didnt watch it
i hate the celts so much anytime i see a midget i make him wear green and proceed to beat the shit out of him
i hate the celts so much if i followed a rainbow and found a pot of gold w the leprechaun id leave that shit..wait nahh id still take it..i just wouldnt be AS happy about it..
May 27th, 2010 at 1:50 pm
LakeShow84 says:
LMAO
I refuse to let my grass grow green during the playoffs, I bleach it to death.
Reminds me of Bernie Mac
“I hate my gums cuz they black!’
“I hate black keys on a piano!”
May 27th, 2010 at 1:52 pm
JAY says:
Riiiiight. Who’s sitting on a perch? You need to re-read your prior posts bud to figure that one out. I just brought you a dose of reality, that’s all. We’re on a site where we post opinions. I’m glad you understand.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:53 pm
JAY says:
LMAOAOOOOO! @ “i hate the celts so much if i followed a rainbow and found a pot of gold w the leprechaun id leave that shit..wait nahh id still take it..i just wouldnt be AS happy about it..”
good shit.
May 27th, 2010 at 1:55 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I hate the Celtics so much when i visualize the Boston Massacre i see Mickey and Minnie in the picture..
I hate the Celtics so much i actually once rooted for the Raiders..
I hate the Celtics so much if i ever ran into Bird or McHale i would call them pu$$ies and swing on em..
I hate the Celtics so much when i die im makin a Beeline for Red Auerbach in heaven or hell just so i can tell him Phil was a way better coach..
May 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
JAY says:
I hate the Celts so much, I bought a plane ticket to Manchester, England and I didn’t even want to go there. I flew back immediately. I took the flight to use the washroom… just so I could shit over Ireland.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:00 pm
LakeShow84 says:
^^^^^^^^^^ LMAO ^^^^^^^^^
May 27th, 2010 at 2:01 pm
Cal says:
Good games….still dont see either the Suns nor the Magic pullin it out
http://diaryofamiseducatedblackman.com/2010/05/27/venus-booty-nba-penis-and-tennis-boobs/
May 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
Cal says:
Love the Greg Jones, Dexter Reid reference. Love it
http://diaryofamiseducatedblackman.com/2010/05/27/venus-booty-nba-penis-and-tennis-boobs/
May 27th, 2010 at 2:02 pm
control says:
I hate the Celts so much, that my dad was wearing a Celt throw back jersey so I punched him in the face and shat on his chest.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
JAY says:
i’d like to click that link but i’m at work and the words “booty, penis, boobs” in the link tell me it’s not workplace appropriate.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:06 pm
dapro says:
Damn the Celtics hate is deep today!! LMAO
Reminds me of the Chappelle skit, Player Hater’s Ball instead this is the Celtic Hater’s Ball…
Save the hate for the finals fellas, Celts close it out in Boston
May 27th, 2010 at 2:08 pm
LakeShow84 says:
Ima take ur guys’s midgets hits up a notch
I hate the Celtics so much when i see midgets i black out, run full speed and spear them..
May 27th, 2010 at 2:20 pm
JAY says:
LOL @ spearing a midget. How funny would THAT look. Poor little dude.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:28 pm
control says:
I hate the Celts so much, that someone once told me that it looked like I had a green thumb, so I chopped my whole fucking arm off without even looking at it.
May 27th, 2010 at 2:30 pm
dagwaller says:
Hahaha some good comments here. I’m just going to re state my comments in some simpler terms, so maybe some people that didn’t understand them the first time through have a better chance.
I’ll start with the second tech on Perk. Yes, he did upstage the refs. When you storm across the court with your arms and legs flopping all over the place, while shouting curse words, yea, that’s upstaging the refs. Is it a foul? No, because he’s not breaking any rules of play. It’s a TECHNICAL FOUL.
http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_12.html
RULE 12, Section A, letters d (1, 3, and 4) and e.
If you don’t want to go to the site, and had an issue with the call last night, let me just sum it up for you. You can’t curse, and you can’t be running all over the court protesting a call. Perk did it, he got T’ed up, and it’s no more complicated than that. If you think there’s a conspiracy, please tell me why the league would want the Celtics, one of the most popular teams in the league, out of the playoffs.
Secondly, I never said that anyone else didn’t deserve a tech earlier in this series/any other random game you guys are pulling out of nowhere. I’m just saying that Pierce blatantly shoved Redick to the floor. If you disagree, then you need to uncover your eyes.
Pshhhhhhhh
May 27th, 2010 at 2:34 pm
dagwaller says:
Oh, btw I’m glad that the NBA reads my comments on this page, as they rescinded just the first Tech (not the one I’ve been defending) and they upgraded PP’s foul to a flagrant.
So Jay and mgballer, go ahead and give the “submit comment” button a break for the rest of the day. bam
May 27th, 2010 at 2:50 pm
JAY says:
@dagwaller
“go ahead and give the “submit comment” button a break for the rest of the day. ”
Yeah, I’m done with the technical foul topic. Posting it here helped me get it all out. Lol. It’s therapeutic.
I won’t stop hitting the “submit comment” button though. The “I hate celts…” shit is too funny.
I hate the Celts so much, I wipe my ass with a poster of their Irish mascot, Brian Scalabrine.
May 27th, 2010 at 3:02 pm
JAY says:
To add one thing about the tech being rescinded. That nice of Stu Jackson and David Stern but it doesn’t take away Perkins’ ejection.
May 27th, 2010 at 3:15 pm
chris says:
i love this basketball. the suns and the magic are winning by getting major contributions from 10 players pretty much every night, enough to offset and wear out the celtics and lakers stars. not saying the refs are doing a good job, but they have it tough – celtics have been very physical, now dwight is getting them back, both teams are so physical that the refs can’t call everything without wrecking the game.
paul pierce is one nasty MF – swooning when he gets touched, pushing jj redick down, getting stuffed by pietrus then acting like he was fouled….he shot a lot of free throws last night he didn’t deserve, and made me wish the refs could call delay of game fouls on players who act like they got hit when they didn’t
on the other hand,dwight howard is gonna kill someone with his elbows, and i’ll bet the refs T him up tomorrow night in boston for it.
kind of sad the way boston was deliberately fouling dwight in the 4th as soon as the ball was in play…i think that should be a delay of game foul, too.
late in the fourth, all the bodies boston had left to come back with were 4 old men (wallace, garnett, allen, and pierce) and rondo, and man, did they look OLD! rasheed’s spin move in the paint with 3 minutes left wrecked his knee, i am betting daniels, glenn davis and rasheed all miss the next game.
what’s up with tony allen not playing?
I hope the suns and the magic make the finals, and that the paradigm of pro basketball shifts….instead of winning a chip by combining 3 stars (or 4, or 5 if you are a big market team that can afford it), win a chip by combining 9 very good players committed to playing as a team. more fun to watch, and the tickets will get more affordable, too.
May 27th, 2010 at 3:23 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I hate the Celtics so much someone once told me i was “green with envy”.. So i shot him..
May 27th, 2010 at 3:26 pm
LAballer says:
i hate the celts so much i wouldn’t give pierce the oscar he deserves…
May 27th, 2010 at 3:46 pm
control says:
100 posts of hate, this is my type of day at good ole dimemag.com.
Can’t wait to see tomorrow Smack post total…with all the Laker fans justifying why they lost to the Suns tonight…
May 27th, 2010 at 3:54 pm
LakeShow84 says:
@ Control
Thats the funniest shit you posted all day right there #102 lol
May 27th, 2010 at 4:29 pm
??? says:
The league needs to revise their policy on officiating. I completely understand that the refs hear chirping in their ears all game long and it gets old fast. However, throwing a player out for swearing or being overly demonstrative ultimately comes down to a personal bias. Now if a player is stopping play to bark at an official, then he’s disrupting the game and that’s something totally different. Anyone who works in a customer service job puts up with obnoxious people for a lot less money than these referees. Maybe they need to grow some thicker skin.
I heard Tiger Woods’ wife is asking for 750 million? I wouldn’t be surprised if they find her body somewhere off the Florida Keys.
May 27th, 2010 at 4:43 pm
fallinup says:
@ Dagwaller
#95
Thanks for the insight, Mr. Wizard. I’m sure you learned us dummies sumfin today. But it seems the NBA took back the SECOND tech… and still kept Perks first, (more unintentional) tech. So you’ll have to explain that one to us morons too… or PSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHH yourself, bud.
The 2nd tech wasn’t a tech after all. So no… the NBA did not read your dimemag post.
May 27th, 2010 at 5:55 pm
sh!tfaced says:
Haha! You know its always about the HATE when SMACK hits 100+…
@ LakeShow
Got no idea about the Nashty shirt gig either…
May 27th, 2010 at 6:52 pm
common sense says:
@Jay #97
“I hate the Celts so much, I wipe my ass with a poster of their Irish mascot, Brian Scalabrine.”
that wins.. fatality. that ended shit. had me on the floor. lol. i gotta use this against people i hate other than scal. lol
lol just got on here to read the last 40 comments. lol. when did it turn into a hate fest. its like the lebron hate was seamlessly transfered to the celtics hate. two most hated items on Dimemag apparantly. tbh i do hate the celts. Pierce wins for me. what a bitch!!
May 27th, 2010 at 9:19 pm
dagwaller says:
LOL@ Jay yea ya’ll were on fire today…
AWWWWW sheeeeit, fallinup caught me! Haha I was hoping no one would notice!
http://www.nba.com/2010/news/05/27/perkins.techs.ruling.ap/index.html
You’re right. I owe Jay and mgballer a half apology!
May 27th, 2010 at 10:13 pm
LakeShow84 says:
LMAO
Besides a couple Nash jumpers that whole comeback was BULLSHIT..
May 27th, 2010 at 11:35 pm
K Dizzle says:
Doug Collins “Don’t know how Nash found Stoudamire for that layup with the clock runnin down”
It’s called travelling, Doug. How you start a drive? Take 3 steps, then try to switch to a 2 foot stop then step again to find Amare…damn.
Switch Pau off Nash…
May 27th, 2010 at 11:36 pm
K Dizzle says:
C’mon, Ron!!!!
May 27th, 2010 at 11:41 pm
K Dizzle says:
Oh shit! Redemption!!!!! YEAHHHH!!!!