Dime Live Blog: USA vs. Iran
I’ve never dealt directly with a bookie, and I don’t know much about gambling, so I have to ask: Is there such a scenario where you’d lose money on “winning” bet? For today’s Team USA vs. Iran matchup, putting $100 on the U.S. to win should cost you at least and extra $50 just out of pure shame in trying to get over so easily.
While Iran did pick up a win yesterday to run their record to 1-2 in Group B, it’s safe to say they’ll be fortunate here to keep the margin under 30. I’m usually one to pull for the underdog, and while there’s a part of me that wants Iran to do well, let’s be realistic: Hamed Haddadi is by far the best player on the team, and he might be the worst player in the NBA. Meanwhile, he’ll be facing a trio of USA bigs in Kevin Love, Tyson Chandler and Lamar Odom who all at least possess All-Star-ish talent (even if not All-Star production) and would generally murk Haddadi in a head-to-head matchup on an NBA court.
Then again, this ain’t the NBA. Carlos Arroyo was a fringe player in the League when he famously gave Team USA the business in the ’04 Olympics, and Greece knocked off a loaded U.S. team in the WC in 2006 with a crew of non-NBA players. Not to mention, Brazil wasn’t exactly rolling out an NBA All-Star ballot when they nearly upset the U.S. earlier this week. So maybe this one will be competitive after all. But I wouldn’t bet on it.
PRE-GAME
- After the compelling disaster (I couldn’t turn away) that was yesterday’s NBA TV announcer for the Spain/Lithuania and France/Canada games, I am all about Fran Fraschilla and whoever the other ESPN guy is today. They can get the names wrong and say mildly ridiculous stuff all they want, so long as I don’t have to hear “Oh man, I love this game!” one more time from that clown.
- Danny Granger and Stephen Curry got DNP-CD’s against Brazil, while Eric Gordon and Kevin Love played about 5 minutes each. Let’s see if Coach K gives them extra time today in what should be a blowout.
- Before we start, I have to give a Happy Birthday shout-out to my Dad, who turns 50 today. I remember when I was in elementary and middle school and I had friends whose parents were in their 50′s; meanwhile mine were still in their 30′s. Now they’ve both turned 50 this year, I’m gaining on 30 myself, and I can’t imagine how I would have fared being responsible for two kids starting when I was 19. Props to my Pops for helping me get this far and hanging in there through the tough times we’ve experienced. Hopefully I’ve made you proud so far.
FIRST QUARTER
- Don’t think this is a one-man Iranian team. Arsalan Kazemi is a rising sophomore at Rice University. So that’s something.
- Starting lineup for the U.S.: Derrick Rose, Chauncey Billups, Andre Iguodala, Kevin Durant and Lamar Odom. The Americans start in mantoman, with Odom basically hugging Haddadi whenever he can get away with it.
- Durant gets the first bucket on a transition and-one at the 8:21 mark. Haddadi comes back on the other end with a lefty layup. Rose turns it over and Haddadi almost gives Iran the lead with a spinning banker, but he traveled.
- Fraschilla on Haddadi: “He’s a backup center at best in the NBA, but when you’re 7-2 and have a little bit of skill, you’re worth taking a chance on.”
- Mehdi Kamrani gives Iran the lead with a three, but KD responds with a triple of his own. 6-5, USA. Fraschilla’s announce partner already went to the “feisty” well in describing Iran once. What’s the over/under for this game?
- Why is Iguodala taking threes in transition? He made it, but still. Sixers fans don’t wanna see that.
- Tomorrow at 9:30 a.m. it’s Team USA vs. Tunisia, the only winless team in Group B and one of the teams which nobody can name any of the players.
- Haddadi slaps Tyson Chandler in the face on his way to the rim, and says either “Where’s the foul?” or “What the f***?” when the refs whistle him. He’s apparently learning quickly from NBA players.
- “This would be a moral victory for Iran if they keep it close through one,” Fraschilla says. “This is like a 15-2 seeded game in the NCAA Tournament.” It’s 14-10 with under three minutes to go.
- Rudy Gay gambles on defense and forces a turnover, leading to a breakaway dunk. That one worked, but I’m seeing a lot of the U.S. taking chances for steals, and that’s part of why Brazil almost beat them.
- Westbrook hits all glass on a layup, which sets up Chandler for a follow dunk.
- Fraschilla says he’s heard some teams might be throwing games soon in order to avoid certain teams in the Round of 16. He backs off a little and equates it to NFL teams resting their starters going into the playoffs, but now I’m expecting to watch games tomorrow seeing a bunch of Tony from Blue Chips work.
- Team USA is up 19-13, end of one. Moral victory for Iran.
SECOND QUARTER
- “Well, you know they’re gonna win the game,” Fraschilla says while breaking down the first quarter.
- On the floor for Team USA: Curry, Gordon, Westbrook, Chandler and Gay.
- Gordon hits a three and Westbrook scores off another turnover. This could be the group that blows the game wide open with their energy, pressure, and if Gordon and Curry start hitting jumpers.
- “This is basically a scrimmage,” says Fraschilla … “With all due respect” for Iran. That doesn’t sound like much due respect.
- I was gonna say Iran’s coach is too stressed out for this just to be a scrimmage, but then I saw he’s wearing jeans. So I’m guessing he’s chillin’.
- Kazemi, who just banged a three to make it 28-19 USA, is the first Iranian player to get a D-1 scholarship. As a freshman he averaged 10.3 points, 9.1 rebounds and 1.6 steals at Rice.
- Lost the Internet for a while …
- Iran is always this/close to making something good happen. One of the guards will make a nice move getting into the lane, but his big man drops the pass. Or they’ll get a steal but somebody falls down to kill the fast break. Lots of good ideas, not so good execution.
- Rose comes flying into the lane but can’t get up high enough to dunk on Haddadi. He misses the layup, and Kazemi’s layup on the other end makes it 39-26, USA. Iran gets another stop but air-balls a three. (See what I’m talking about?)
- With one second left in the half, silly foul by Iran against Chauncey. He knocks down one. At halftime, it’s 43-28. Not the blowout everybody expected.
THIRD QUARTER
- Durant leads the U.S. with 10 points, while Haddadi leads Iran with 7 points. The turnover count is 13-10, Iran. While Iran is committing turnovers off bad decisions and wilting under pressure, the U.S. is just trying to be too fancy and create highlights.
- Rose gets his contractually-obligated up-and-under reverse layup to push the lead to 22. Haddadi finally gets Iran on the board this half with a baby hook after a good sequence of passing and off-ball movement. Haddadi and Rudy Gay should feel at home here; there’s like 15 people in the stands, much like his Grizzlies games.
- Nice crossover by Durant, but he and Rose can’t connect on a baseline pass. Another turnover. Odom then gives up an and-one layup to Kazemi. (Who Fraschilla compares to a mix of Omri Casspi and Wally Szczerbiak.) Still a 20-point game, though.
- I can’t think of an NBA player who misses more layups than Lamar Odom.
- Iguodala, Granger and Rudy Gay are among those on the U.S. team letting their hair grow, and it’s starting to show. Usually what you have is guys will either go bald (like D-Wade at the ’08 Olympics) or get it cut real low before they leave for overseas, and just let it grow during the tournament because they don’t want to fly their barbers out. Rudy tweeted the other day that he’ll be able to get braids by the time he comes back to America. This obviously isn’t a problem for Chauncey.
- Gordon passes up a three and turns it over trying to make the extra pass. Appreciate the thought, but that’s not why you’re on the team. Shoot the rock, EJ.
- End of three, 62-39, USA.
FOURTH QUARTER
- Haddadi gets a classic “I’m just bigger than you” and-one on Rudy, screams in his face and starts laughing. Fraschilla points out for the 1,500th time that they’re teammates in the NBA. “He has no mobility,” Fraschilla says about Haddadi.
- If the U.S. is playing themselves rather than playing Iran, would you say they’re winning?
- Haddadi makes it rain with a high-arcing fadeaway in the lane. He’s starting to get it cooking, but too little too late.
- Highlight of the game for Iran: A streaking Kazemi catches it and (kinda) dunks on Rudy. Then Chandler makes everyone forget about it with a strong alley-oop finish.
- If I said a lot of the guys on Iran’s team look like bad guys I’ve seen in action movies, is that a racist statement by me, or a telling sign about what kind of movies we make in America?
- Garbage time means buckets time for Haddadi. He’s sticking pull-up jumpers, bring the ball up playing PG, and generally not taking this thing seriously anymore. Consequently, he’s playing better.
- Gordon tries to go baseline and end Haddadi’s career with a dunk, but misses. He then passes up another open jumper to make the extra pass and almost turns it over. Is the up-and-down playing time messing with EJ’s head? He needs to come out against Tunisia with an Antawn Jamison mindset. Shoot at everything that moves.
- Westbrook (again) gets the signature highlight, catching a lob from K-Love for a backwards dunk where his head was at the rim. Who do you think is going to be a better pro: Westbrook or Steph Curry?
- Final score, 88-51. You know who won. As Fraschilla said multiple times, this wasn’t so much a game against Iran as it was a chance for Team USA to work out their weak areas and get into a rhythm of just playing good basketball. Unfortunately, I don’t think they accomplished that goal. They had a ton of turnovers and shot the ball inconsistently.





























September 1st, 2010 at 11:53 am
sh!tfaced says:
I’d give anything for those announcers to call a Greece vs Thailand game. Imagine pronouncing them long ass surnames. “Schortsanitis passes to Perperoglou guarded by Patcharaphum Phansura, stolen by Wimonchailerk…” Man… LOL
September 1st, 2010 at 12:21 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Okay quarter for USA…
September 1st, 2010 at 12:27 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Open it up USA!
September 1st, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
nice blog Rudy Gay and good team defense USA, stop trying to be so fancy Curry, this is not the All Star game, lol…keep it simple
September 1st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
The Iranian layers are very respectful I see : )
September 1st, 2010 at 12:31 pm
WinDelRoj says:
Yeah they really need to grab these dudes by the throat. None of this amicable all star game vibe.
September 1st, 2010 at 12:32 pm
dagwaller says:
Gotta say, when I turned on the game, I was ready to bash on the announcers. But so far they’ve been pretty good. Someone just brought up a story on Hamed Haddadi’s ambidexterity. Credit where credit is due
September 1st, 2010 at 12:33 pm
dagwaller says:
Gotta say, when I turned on the game, I was ready to bash on the announcers. But so far they’ve been pretty good. Someone just brought up a story on Hamed Haddadi’s ambidexterity. Credit where credit is due
September 1st, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Irans coach does look stressed out he’s just tying to get his team to play hard and get better, lol…
September 1st, 2010 at 12:45 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Inside out USA great!
September 1st, 2010 at 12:47 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Yes Rose and Westbrook have to finish those layups, lol..Halftime
September 1st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
Detroit Dave says:
Who’s better Rodney Stuckey or Russel Westbrook?
Does anyone here believe that Rudy Gay is better than Danny Granger?
Having a discussion with co-workers.
September 1st, 2010 at 12:50 pm
dagwaller says:
LOL @ the announcers doing a nice bit on Kevin Love. I think K Love is great and all, but it was classic when they concluded their bit by saying, “He’s doing all the things for team USA that he does for Minnesota”, AS Love was losing Haddadi on a dive to the basket (bad pass anyway). That trip down the floor, he nailed a 3. Yup, pretty much what he does for the T Wolves hahaha
September 1st, 2010 at 12:51 pm
MARCI says:
This is bullshit, not basketball. USA should be up by 40.
September 1st, 2010 at 12:56 pm
Austin Burton says:
@Detroit Dave — My hometown bias wants to say Stuckey, but I’d have to go with Westbrook. He’s incredible in his short bursts of play with Team USA, he just has to harness that explosiveness over the course of a 48-min game with OKC.
Again, I have a bias toward Granger. He’s a better pure scorer than Rudy, but Rudy is capable of doing more things on the court. Plus Granger gets hurt a lot. I’d have to take Rudy.
September 1st, 2010 at 12:57 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
oh please shudda cudda wudda, lol…calm down big Marc : )
September 1st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
LOL! USA comes barreling out after the half, timeout Iran…
September 1st, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Franschilla says good practice for team USA Ha! I wish Raff was doing commentary too The Tin
September 1st, 2010 at 1:06 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Rose finally finishes
September 1st, 2010 at 1:07 pm
Detroit Dave says:
@15 I have to respectfully disagree with both comments.
True indeed, Westbrook is more explosive and a better athlete but his plays usually end in highlight fashion or turnover. I think he is a flat out beast on-ball defender so I give him that edge over Stuckey. Westbrokk avg more assists but he also plays with Kevin Durant so that’s gotta account for something. I enjoy watching both of them play but I would give the edge to Stuckey.
There is no way in the world you can tell me that Rudy Gay’s 19ppg are more “purer” than Granger’s 24 ppg
September 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
@Detroit Dave I really can’t say, but I do know they’re all rich, lol…
September 1st, 2010 at 1:09 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Ig says WTF on fouled called against him! LOL!
September 1st, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Man KD you my boy and everything but you need that haircut, where is your boy Charlie Bell…
September 1st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
I’m making some bomb spagehetti folks Italian meatballs, italian sausage, gonna be good and fattening let’s go USA
September 1st, 2010 at 1:11 pm
Detroit Dave says:
@21……hell yeah.
@15….Give Granger and 20 and 10 big man in the paint (z-bo) a skilled center (m. gasol) and a capable two guard (O.J. Mayo sauce) and I bet he goes to the playoffs.
September 1st, 2010 at 1:13 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Rudy Gay reppin that Bmore Charm City crew too good 3 man
September 1st, 2010 at 1:18 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
yup keep it fundamental Curry..
September 1st, 2010 at 1:19 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Franschilla “The pride in the uniform has been great” yes indeed Go USA!
September 1st, 2010 at 1:20 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Represent them Troops overseas! USA
September 1st, 2010 at 1:21 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Did you know in Turkey if you mess with the women the men stab you in the butt, lol…when I was in the Navy we went to Anatalya Turkey and they warned us before we got off of our carrier…lol
September 1st, 2010 at 1:23 pm
dagwaller says:
@ Kent – I’m glad that you’re into this and all, but it’s funny to me that I’ve never seen you post before and in a single article, you’ve posted 19 times! Lol where are you and why the sudden interest?
September 1st, 2010 at 1:27 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Rudy and his teammate going hard against each other lol
September 1st, 2010 at 1:29 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
haha USA are playing themselves, lol…I hea ya Dime…Rudy decked out all out in the suit…
September 1st, 2010 at 1:33 pm
danocasa says:
damn steph curry cannot guard ANYONE.
September 1st, 2010 at 1:36 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
haha they do look like bad guys for movies and so Dime lolll
September 1st, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
man, these games are so fast like AAU games ha
September 1st, 2010 at 1:39 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
oop from Love to Westbrook for the bangggggg then Granger from the outside 3 ball
September 1st, 2010 at 1:41 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
nice friendly game huh folks, lol…get the film ready for the round of 16 USA says Franschilla
September 1st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
MARCI says:
USA should have won by 60.
MVPs so far: Rose, Durant, Love
September 1st, 2010 at 1:44 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
True Dime and thanks a bunch for this live blog God Bless!
September 1st, 2010 at 1:45 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Mike Yammmmmmm in the studio
September 1st, 2010 at 1:46 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
Marc 30 to 60 LOL!
September 1st, 2010 at 2:09 pm
Kent (Glidehoyas) says:
I think both will be good pros Curry and Westbrook, but Curry will have to play better defense
September 1st, 2010 at 2:23 pm
JAY says:
@Kent: “Did you know in Turkey if you mess with the women the men stab you in the butt, lol…”
Did you know in Thailand, if you mess with women, you could end up getting “poked in the butt” by that woman because it could, very possibly, be a man…
September 1st, 2010 at 2:28 pm
Kevin says:
AB:
I’ve been reading time for quite a while now…and without a doubt the best and most accurate statement I’ve ever seen you write is that “I can’t think of an NBA player who misses more layups than Lamar Odom”.
Ive been saying that for a long time, thanks for recognizing!
September 1st, 2010 at 2:43 pm
dagwaller says:
@45 and AB – maybe the reason we’re seeing a lot of sloppy play around the rim (pause) is because the international players finish plays on defense.
http://dimemag.com/2010/09/rudy-fernandez-gets-savagely-posterized/
They might not always be successful, but it probably messes with your head a little bit.
September 1st, 2010 at 2:44 pm
Jack says:
Austin, For sure winners like USA, your bet has to beat the spread; that is US must win by at least a certain number of points or you lose. Anyone know what the Vegas spread on this game was?
September 1st, 2010 at 3:11 pm
yoyo says:
@ 45
“I can’t think of an NBA player who misses more layups than Lamar Odom”.
That had me rollin’. Good stuff, AB!
September 1st, 2010 at 3:20 pm
Nodizzel says:
@JAY:
LMAO!!!!
September 1st, 2010 at 3:41 pm
Chicagorilla says:
@AB,
Yes Odom shall now be known a the “Crip Jagger” for the easy lay-ups he “blows” around the basket. lmao! Crip Jagging SOB.
September 1st, 2010 at 4:54 pm
yoda says:
well, i’m a laker fan and i’m sad that you are correct AB, about odom. only one close to LO with bad layups is another laker, ron-ron
September 1st, 2010 at 5:37 pm
Chuck says:
What a horribly coached and prepared team! They look like school yard guys who couldn’t make the varsity. Rose couldn’t guard my grandfather and he’s been dead for 40 years. He is an equal opportunity defensive player–anyone regardless of race, creed or age can blow right by him.
Enough of Odom and Iggie who is mysteriously one of the worst players in the NBA. Play Love and Gay, and show Rose how to make a completed pass. Maybe Peyton Manning can come to Turkey to show him. Finally, Coach K should give donate whatever they are paying him. He hasn’t earned anything. If they lose to these teams which are vastly inferior, make Jerry Sloan the coach for the Olympics. And Bring back Rajon. He would be starring in these games.
September 1st, 2010 at 5:58 pm
downtown_brownclown says:
did you see the rudy gay pass to kevin love? mayne! that’ll be the start of the GAY-LOVE Connection! hahahahaha!
September 2nd, 2010 at 12:12 am
slick ric says:
Chuck sound like a complete loser saying “Iggie who is mysteriously one of the worst players in the NBA.” you have no credibility.