neither one of them is a top 5 pf in the league so it really dont matter cuz neither one change your gameplan..them two with david lee and zach randolph just draw a name out the hat …if i had to pick one ill go with jefferson cuz he has a rare skill of bein able to score with his back to the basket

The argument for Boozer is not that good. You gave a playoff stat for Al Jefferson when he was a ROOKIE and he just came out of high-school that time, how can you put up numbers when your not even playing?

Are you saying that he is better off with Derrick Rose(who is not an excellent passer) over Deron Williams.

And since when did Boozer become durable?

Hope it will be it wilI be Boozer, but when we got him this off season I just had got the feelin that he was gonna be a disappointment… hope that’s not the case..

Tie

Boozer is a better rebounder and a better fit with Williams. Jefferson, as said by someone a few comment ago, is a black hole on offense. The fact that his numbers were the same as Boozer’s when the entirety of Minnesota’s offense ran through is telling. Boozer but up his numbers while Deron was averaging 19ppg.

I love Al Jefferson’s post game, but he looks very slow on defense. My uncle said we will finally see how overrated Al is this year because he is finally expected to help win games. Can’t pass out of the double team. But good scorer, good rebounder, terrible defender and passer.

Booz is also very formidable on the block. Passing is decent enough. I don’t think he handles double teams as well as people may think. Very good rebounder. Lack of desire on defense.

Both are good, not great. Both undersized for their position. Both injury prone a little bit.

I will have to go with Boozer simply because he has won in a lot of places. Duke, not really in Cleveland, in Utah they were in the playoffs all the time.

Their impact on the game is minimal though even considering they both put up about 20/10. They are like Z-Bo, get #’s but can’t really see their impact on the game other than the statsheet. Solid #2 players on a playoff team, but maybe not a championship team.

i’d have to go with boozer as of now just because he’s never been a #1 guy on his team and he appears to be ok with that. he’ll be a better compliment to almost any point guard because he’s a good finisher but can also shoot from mid range. this was why utah’s pick and roll and pick and pop was so effective. with big gay al in the mix, it’s going to be a lot more pick and roll as opposed to pick and pop.

@bjork: you make a great point about being a black hole… he’s the type of player where you throw it to him on the block and you never see it again… i’d say he’s a slightly less lazy version than zach randolph

@ Yucca Man
hahaha, “He missed almost 200 games in 6 years due to life-threatening injuries…”

That was classic.

I think this season can prove if Al Jefferson really is a ball-hog. He was the Wolves’ best player and their PG situation was suspect. Kevin Love’s good but he can’t score or rebound as well as Al can. Jonny Flynn & Ramon Sessions are good but both of them have the typical shoot-first attitude that most point guards have nowadays. Ramon is known for looking off people and that’s why he’s been on multiple teams. Jonny used to get Sacramento-era Jason Williams treatment for stretches when he was in Syracuse and in a good deal of Minny games too because gunning too. You have to account for Al offensively and he basically has to be doubled.

Boozer in Chicago is the best thing that ever happened to him. He fits in perfectly there. He’s pretty short, but he will play well on the high post. Noah will do most of the rebounding and scoring in the paint. Noah only averaged 10 points a game last season, but he will improve for sure. Boozer can focus on being a high profile scorer. He could average up to 23 ppg

That is a close call..

Way up there, someone said that Jefferson was a flow killer… The Wolves didn’t run shit for him, so how could he be a flow killer?! They NEVER used him in a pick and roll… And we know the Jazz will.

Boozer has a nice mid range game, but is a fairly weak finisher (I haven’t missed a Jazz game in 3 years.. So, believe me, I am use to his weak finishes.. missed layups).

Boozer is a horrible defender too… and the king of the touch foul and 1.

I will take my chances with Jefferson. We don’t need a jump shooting big man. We need low post presence. Okur is a jump shooter, Millsap can shoot jumpers too.

I think Jefferson will be a much better fit for the Jazz..

I’m starting to wonder if I could write articles for this magazine. I have no experience and am completely bias towards teams I follow.. Sounds like every article I read here.. Seriosuly did interns write this? What makes everyone so sure that Deron is so pissed off that boozer left? Do some due dilligence before posting garbage like this. Boozer went after the money like he always does (can’t blame him) but there was a reason the Jazz fo didn’t even come close to offering booz what Chicago is drastically over paying him for.

Boozer has much more versatility on offense. He can finish with both hands, knows a lot of tricks and when his jumper is on, look out. He’s also had the benefit of playing in one of the only systems that run almost everything for a scoring forward. (Adrian Dantley, Karl Malone, heck even AK got 17 a game there and Millsap scores 20-10 when Booz is out injured*) Boozer had some great passers in his career with LeBron, Deron and others (AK dimed to him quite a bit, so did CJ).

On the flip side, Boozer played like a 40 year old, jump shot taking, fading away Malone. Look at Boozer’s FTA / game from the playoffs last season. Just LOOK AT THEM. Dude did not get to the line when, as a big bruising 1st option inside he should have. He did not. Why? Because he did not go inside when he should have been. Jefferson is not blessed with the versatility that Boozer has on offense. He can only do a few things at the NBA level. But in that lack of diversity he has made playing inside a specialty.

The numbers that he got playing with shit-ass PGs and running in a horrible non-system will only look better and be more efficient playing with pass happy guys like Williams, Kirilenko (and down the road, Hayward) — while playing in the remix of Dick Motta’s forward 1st option flex offense.

Boozer is going to put up good numbers as well, no doubt. But he’s not going to be running the flex next season, which was how he got all those assists anyway. (IT wasn’t from double team passing, he was never doubled) Jefferson will surely be passing more next season, not just because he’ll have better team mates, but because if he doesn’t Jerry will bench him.

They both hold their own in rebounds. It is true, though, that Boozer’s rebounding numbers were elevated in Utah where as the ‘big man on campus’ he took rebounds away from team mates 2-3 times a game. Don’t believe me? Watch next season as he averages 7.9 rpg next to Noah — who will not back down on the glass.

Jefferson’s defense will be under the microscope this next year as he plays for a team that wants to be winning games in the playoffs. IF he’s at PF, there’s no C behind him to watch his back. If he’s at C, he’ll be the last line of defense. He blocks more than Boozer, but then again, we’re half a block away from being as good as Carlos, so it’s not saying much. Boozer’s lack of D will be somewhat mitigated by playing with Noah. (who’ll have his back better than Memo ever could)

This does not absolve either of them for sucking at man defense. They both do. They should be better. Sloan preaches defense, so we’ll see if that makes a difference. Boozer moves great on offense, Tom T’s influence should at least help his help defense.

Intangibles: Jefferson has made a lot of fans for saying the right things to the media so far (how he hates the Lakers, etc). Boozer is the king of saying the right stuff, but it can get a bit too much at times. He’s a sneaky Duke guy. Remember 2 seasons ago going on radio telling people a trade was done and shit? He’s very sneaky to get phantom injuries all the time too before All-Star break to get more vacation time. Also, he does not show up when it counts . . . last game of reg season last year (if Jazz win they are #2 seed, if they lose, #5 seed) he did not even suit up. That’s leadership.

Who is better? They both are flawed. They are both different players. This season will show us all quite a bit though. I’m happy to have a real low post guy on the Jazz, but skill wise, I think Carlos is better right now.

We’ll see how true this is during the season though.

I think it’s boozer. He is more versatile and the better finisher even though Al is taller he does alot of pump faking while boozer attacks the rims mostly.I think the bulls are a great fit for booz because he wont be relied upon to do all the dirty work in the paint with Noah there.

sloan won’t let jefferson be a black hole on offense

The great thing for the Jazz is that Boozer and Millsap are the same player. Millsap is WAAAAAYYYYYY better, by the way — he shoots better, has a better nose for the ball, PLAYS AWESOME DEFENSE, and has more heart in his pinky than Boozer has in his whole punk-ass body!

Now the Jazz have Millsap starting and playing starter minutes AND they have a low-post scoring threat playing along side him. They are going to be friggin AWESOME. Williams, AK, Millsap, Jefferson are the best four starters in the league bar none. If CJ or Raja can compete, man, the Jazz are going to ROCK!

Jefferson will pick up Sloan’s offense and style of defense. Jerry will kick his ever-loving behind if he doesn’t. That’s what so great about having a real coach on your team.

Jazz will take the hated lakers down in 4. You heard it here first.

okay JohnnyClutch, give me the drugs . . .

best 4 starters in the L?

okay:

Bos (KG, PP, RA, RR) (or KP)

CLE (DW, LJ, CB, UH)

LAL (KB, PG, RA, AB)

I could go on . . . but . . . I hear you on the other stuff. but just because you got here from some shitty David locke (yeah, that guy) link doesn’t mean you have to be his proxy.

IMO, for now, CArlos gets the node. However, as a Jazz fan watching Boozer for years, I find it weird when somebody calls Boozer a “post beast”. Most of his inside points come from the great transition execution + uncontested layups delivered by Deron. Carlos escapes from contact not only on defense but also on offense. He pops out and fires high arching Js, when we already have Memo outside. Jefferson is a REAL POST THREAT.Everybody knows “The Matador” Carlos on defensive end. Al Jeff is said to be a liability on defensive end however anybody is a upgrade on CArlos when it comes to defense. The Jazz were eleminated by Lakers in three straight post seasons and the biggest reason was not Okur’s numbers and defense. It was the fact that Carlos could not make the contribution on offense that he efficiently and effectively did during the course of regular seasons. The reason was: BEING UNDERSIZED. Add the fact that Millsap, who is a 6’7-6’8 PF, was the 3rd bigmen of the crew, it was near impossible to win 4 times against a talented Laker frontcourt. Al Jeff undoubtedly will help the Jazz in this area. Two questions, concerns I have about him:
1) Will he be as effective on the pick’n roll/pop as Carlos.
2) He is said to be blackhole on offense. The Jazz are always 1st in assist numbers and Carlos has been a big part of this success/fact. Al Jeff has to improve in that area.

KG at his age is barely better than AJ
Would take AK over PP
Millsap and RA are both great players — hard to compare, but of equal worth now to team
RR vs Deron? rofl

CLE (DW, LJ, CB, UH) — I assume you mean Miami

Can’t argue here too much, but why throw in the scrub? There are only 3 good players in Miami.

LAL (KB, PG, RA, AB)
Deron just short of Kobe
AJ == Gasol
AK > RA
Millsap == AB

Jazz can compete and win with anybody.

I’ll take AL, because of versatility & he can actually be a defensive presence when he wants to.