LeBron, Wade, Bosh Take a Bite Out of Orlando; Rondo makes history
Chris Bosh (photo. David Alvarez)
The Miami Heat are officially ridiculous. Following the letdown loss in Boston and the underwhelming win in Philly, last night’s home opener against Orlando was the true debut of the squad we envisioned when Chris Bosh, Dwyane Wade and LeBron James (we want to give Bosh a chance to hear his name called first once in a while) linked up over the summer … Defense was the name of this game. LeBron and his specially-made vampire-fanged mouthpiece was about as disruptive as somebody could be without actually recording a steal. One time he was harassing Dwight Howard on the right block, and when Orlando swung the ball, LBJ sprinted to the left corner in like three steps to challenge Jameer Nelson’s jumper. It was close at halftime before Miami opened the third quarter with a 14-0 run that brought the game into 20-piecing territory. D-Wade (26 pts) knocked down a couple of treys during the run, and LeBron (15 pts, 7 asts) hit a couple floaters in transition. With Vince Carter having already left for the night in the second quarter with a back injury, Orlando just didn’t have enough scorers to make a comeback … As a team, the Heat held the Magic to 30 percent shooting from the field and 4-of-24 beyond the arc. Dwight (19 pts) was pretty impressive on the offensive end in the first half, showcasing controlled spin moves, fadeaway jumpers and hooks with either hand, but he went scoreless in the second half. The other four starters shot a combined 4-for-30 from the field. Gross … People talk about LeBron being a single-minded bulldozer with the ball, but has anyone noticed D-Wade? In three games he’s already trucked more defenders than Adrian Peterson, and only gets called for charging half the time … The pressure was on for Miami’s gameday staff to do an intro doper than Jordan’s Bulls, but that’s kind of impossible. Still, the thing where the whole arena went black and the starters stood in a line and got solitary spotlights was kind of sick … You know you weren’t watching Bucks/Wolves, so forgive Scott Skiles if he got a little distracted checking his iPhone on the bench. While Skiles’ team was on the floor in Minnesota, his main claim to fame — the NBA’s single-game assist record that he’s held since dropping 30 dimes for the Magic back in 1990 — was under attack in Boston. Rajon Rondo fell a little short, carving up the Knicks’ defense for a mere 24 assists to go with 10 points and 10 rebounds in a close win. No one In NBA history has had more assists in the course of a triple-double … Oh, and the Bucks lost after Mike Beasley (21 pts, 10 rebs), Kevin Love (17 pts, 16 rebs) and Darko (9 rebs, 5 blks) treated their frontcourt like, well, like a pack of wolves would naturally treat some deers …
Not sure if “underrated” is the proper phrase as much as “underachieving,” but the Pistons are actually a dangerous team when they play the right way. Detroit’s home opener against the favored Thunder was a battle: 30 seconds left in the fourth, OKC was up by two when Kevin Durant missed a runner and Serge Ibaka missed a wide-open putback. Ibaka got fouled on another putback and split the free throws, then Ben Gordon hit a pair at the line and Durant (30 pts, 8 rebs) missed one. So down by two, Gordon (32 pts) drove and attracted the defense, leaving Charlie Villanueva open for a go-ahead corner triple with 7.5 ticks on the clock. OKC ball, Jeff Green couldn’t find an open lane to pass to KD, so he took it himself and skated past Jason Maxiell for a layup. With no timeouts, Detroit inbounded to Gordon, but it seemed he didn’t realize how much time was left and never even went up for a shot. Ballgame … Other big stat lines from Friday: Danny Granger dropped 33 points and 6 threes on the Bobcats in a Pacers win; Rudy Gay had 21 points, 8 rebounds and 3 steals to lead Memphis past Dallas; Brook Lopez scored 29 as New Jersey beat Sacramento; Josh Smith put up 12 points, 9 boards and 6 blocks, plus hit a huge three down the stretch and blocked Andres Nocioni’s game-tying attempt at the buzzer in Atlanta’s win at Philly; Lamar Odom posted 18 points and 17 rebounds as the Lakers beat Phoenix; Dorell Wright‘s 24 points led Golden State past the Clippers; and in the Game of the Weak, a.k.a. the Bitter Bowl, Andrea Bargnani scored 20 to lead the Raptors in a 20-piecing of the Cavs. Let’s be real, though: More fans in Toronto and Cleveland watched Heat/Magic than their home squads … In the Trade Rumor Invitational, Chris Paul took over down the stretch and carried his Hornets to a win over Carmelo Anthony’s Nuggets. CP3 (18 pts, 7 rebs, 7 asts) was pretty quiet for the first three quarters, then hit the switch and went BAPE-sh*t in the fourth. In one sequence he outrebounded Denver’s entire front line for a putback bucket, hit a jumper in the lane, dimed David West for his favorite shot, dimed Trevor Ariza for a three, then drew a foul on Chauncey Billups while taking a three and made all three free throws. D-West then cleaned up whatever chunks were left of Denver’s heart by sticking a couple fadeaway J’s to ice it … We’re out like clock awareness …
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October 30th, 2010 at 1:48 am
rapTOr says:
Rondo’s just lucky he’s surrounded by all those scorers. If guys like Calderon, Dragic, or even Arroyo were fortunate enough to be on such a deep team, they too would be assist machines.
Tell me if I’m lying.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:11 am
eyes says:
@Raptor
You’re lying. None of the guys you mentioned guard their own shadows. Arroyo isn’t a PG & can’t get 5 assists playing with the Heat. I like Dragic but will pass on the other. Instead of always attacking Rondo. Appreciate what he brings to the table. He makes the Big 3 now the Big 4 the last few years. Jobs so easy. You know how hard it is to record 15+assists with any team. Maybe not because you don’t sound like a player & sure don’t appreciate a baller.
Miami Heat need one or two trades by Feb. For a efficient Finals push. Skip would have been ideal for this team. Mike Bibby would also be a go. I would go after a player like Flip Murray or even Ishamel Smith from the Rockets.
I also wish the Knicks had Ben Gordon,Charlie V,Francisco Garcia,Sebastian Telfair,Edgar Sosa,JR Smith,Joakim Noah,Samarda Samuels,Daryll Hill,MELO & AMARE. With Van Gundy,Mark Jackson & Kenny Smith as the coaching staff. New York Fans would be drooling & we’d be a top 5 team in the east.
Again I’d like to shout out all the NYC/NJ players in the league holding their own. It’s beautiful thing.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:15 am
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
@rapTOR
I hate when people say oh player X is only doing this because of so and so, put player Y in there and he does the same thing. Well we don’t know. Its like saying swap T-Mac for Kobe during 2000-02 do the Lakers still 3peat.
Rondo is seriously gunning for the assist tittle, 17, 9 and 24 assists in his past 3 games. The Celtics offense is flowing through him.
Dwight actually picked up some moved over the summer, even saw him bank a jump shot. The refs still love the Heat (and hate Dwight) but he needs to step up his free throw game. I thought Orlando was unbeatable in preseason?
October 30th, 2010 at 2:22 am
Austin Burton says:
Anyone who has watched the Celtics play lately would know Rondo is better than lucky. He’s actually “playmaking,” as in making plays happen with his penetration and passes that wouldn’t have happened otherwise. He’s setting things up like a true floor general. That’s a skill.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:29 am
LakeShow84 says:
Yeah i say the whole “Rondo just playing with HOF’s” arguement is old..
And weak..
I mean dude just handed out 24 assists and the game before last dropped 17.. U dont want anything more out of your PG besides solid D and dude does that as well..
LakeShow rollin and lookin so beautiful..
So who’s the leader in Miami?? Bet my meal ticket Lebron aint gonna be happy scoring under 20.. Then its going to get real intersting
Oh and who’s been Batman so far LOL
October 30th, 2010 at 3:20 am
rapTOr says:
@eyes: I AM a player, and I DO appreciate good basketball players. I’m a fan of Rondo’s quickness off the dribble and defensive skill, but on the offensive end, he lives off penetration and finishing around the basket. When your offensive game is that limited (as a pass first PG), and you’ve now got four future hall of famers playing massive minutes alongside you- each of whom can score consistently in different areas on the floor- then I would expect that your assists per is gonna jump. It’s only natural.
@stunnaboy: You have a point- my argument doesn’t work in every situation. But I’m not trying to address other situations with some sort of umbrella statement here. I’m not talking about whether or not switching Kobe and T-Mac back in the day would have had an effect on the Lakers’ title runs (which, by the way, I would have to agree with you and say that it would have probably cost LA some chips). What I’m referring to is Rondo’s unique situation, being placed amongst one of the most talented Celtics rosters of all time. Don’t get me wrong- it not fault of Rondo’s for being so blessed- I’m just saying that there are probably many other PGs out there that can do what he’s doing right now (or atleast something comparable) if they were on the Celtics.
@austin burton: I’ve watched 2 of the Celtics 3 games this season, and once again, I see what Rondo is doing for the Celtics. But I can’t help but wonder how much of a machine he would truly be if he was on a more “average team”. I mean did you watch the game last night? EVERYONE was finishing- even BigBaby was hitting jumpers. Granted, he was obviously putting his teammates in positions to score a lot of the time, but I still haven’t heard an argument that would lead me to believe that other NBA PG’s wouldn’t be able to do the same.
Yes, Rondo is nice, but lets not be closed minded here. Rondo makes the Celtics who they are, but at the same time, the Celtics are the oil in Rondos assist machinery.
Yes, that was long…but it was necessary.
October 30th, 2010 at 3:39 am
quest??? says:
I co-sign on raptor. @eyes, arroyo is a point guard, the man had the second highest assist to turnover ratio in the league last year. Your argument that he can’t make 5 assists per game with this Heat team is kind of weak because the Heat’s offensive game plan call for Dwade and Lebron to make the plays(i.e penetration, points in the paint, jumpshots, pass) so that means that arroyo just has to stand there and hit his open shots and make an occasional extra pass to have his assits. Arroyo does not direct the offense, Lebron does. That is why he does not have that many assists.
October 30th, 2010 at 3:43 am
Otto says:
Dear Dime and fellow readers,
Someone needs to explain to me what the hell was that hand gesture the Miami Heat players were doing after one timeout. It was like the NWO “too sweet” gesture but with all four fingers.
October 30th, 2010 at 4:27 am
Sabas Hibachi says:
People of Dime, please get rid of these HATORADE Ads they make all the people not want to go to your site!
October 30th, 2010 at 5:12 am
OneZero says:
I just want to point out that while Rondo indeed had a huge game,
CP3 played 37 minutes and was really clutch, had 18-7-7 and zero turnover while handling the rock almost the entire time
zero, nada turnover. I am more impressed with that.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:23 am
the cynic says:
@raptor
I guess this means we can expect Arroyo to start handing out 15 assist games soon, right?
No one said Rondo was the best PG in the game, but he is definitely above the class of players you just compared him too
October 30th, 2010 at 6:38 am
Hi, Jurg from Denmark says:
and a big hi hi to you today from jurg.
and a special hi hi to mr austin burton great writer who also write in smack comment today. and how are you sir? like always i am great. and now we both write in smack.
and so good to have bball back for this year.jurg fantasy yahoo team not doing good. time to trade out of trouble. and thank you today to helena
from jurgo
October 30th, 2010 at 7:35 am
Eddy says:
“Let’s be real, though: More fans in Toronto and Cleveland watched Heat/Magic than their home squads …”
.
Which part of your Canada hating, fat ass, did you pull that statement out of moron? If you had any integrity you would produce some facts to support your ignorant slander.
October 30th, 2010 at 7:51 am
That's What's Up says:
@ post 9
That would be like taking all your savings out of the bank, crumpling it up and throwing it on the ground.
This is assuming you have some money and you’re not some broke-ass dickhead kid, but in reality…
DIME – what about WIld Wild West putting the smack down on Von Wafer in the locker room yesterday?
October 30th, 2010 at 8:10 am
x0t says:
@eyes no felipe lopez?
@sabas adblock
October 30th, 2010 at 8:40 am
Nodizzel says:
@Otto
That thing Miami was doing was them saying the talking is over, time to shut muphuckas up now.
October 30th, 2010 at 8:55 am
mo.B.bad says:
you can’t touch the heat, but especially wade. it’s ridiculous that dwight fouled out when only 2 or 3 of his fouls were actually fouls. is riley childhood friends with the leader of the refs union or somethin’?
to be honest, as good as the heat were, 3/5 of the magic starters choked big time and seemingly refused to make their shots, the other one got injured after the heat jumped all over him, and then dwight had his ref problems.
and SVG didn’t use bass or anderson enough despite them clearly having too much hustle and power for the miami frontcourt. if he dropped ‘shard (the arch-choker, and the most overpaid man in the NBA, surely?) and had q-rich at the 3 and bass at the 4 they’d be a more effective team in the clutch games.
October 30th, 2010 at 8:59 am
uqk says:
It seems that Odom only play his best against phoenix, never against other teams….
October 30th, 2010 at 9:42 am
Big Freeze says:
Even when Miami plays shitty, they will win games against good teams. Their defense makes up for their lack of identity on offense.
October 30th, 2010 at 9:56 am
DNice says:
Yes the hand signals mean “STFU haters!!”
October 30th, 2010 at 10:03 am
DizzyDutch says:
@eyes,
Joakim is from nyc?
ben gordan is from mount vernon east so technically more of a westchester county product, just sayin’
what’s wrong with that deaf mute jurg’s posts lately? they were hilarious gibberish now it’s just boring gibberish. step it up son
October 30th, 2010 at 10:44 am
gilford says:
Have you guys seen the overweight Kevin Love look-alike?
October 30th, 2010 at 10:53 am
kudos says:
Have any of you guys watched the Miami Heat??! Lebron got called for ONE CHARGE, THE WHOLE DAMN GAME. Him and wade shoulda been callled for it 4+ times. All these guys do is run into you at full speed, and the ref’s (blind) call it every time.
It’s almost like the ref’s didn’t want a celts-miami game again. They couldn’t let them lose on their home floor.
October 30th, 2010 at 11:15 am
jzsmoove says:
that last line didnt make a whole lot sense. from Melo putting it back with a rebound dunk, then he (still Melo) dimed david West. wtf? I assume that a chunk or two of words were omitted to mean that CP3 took over right?
Rondo is the bomb, just give the guy due respect. He’s doin the same things Ason Kidd does (and does not do well which is shoot)but somehow Rondo is shit?
October 30th, 2010 at 11:23 am
NYC Hoops says:
Wrong Raptor
Carlos Arroyo played 3 games and had a total of 1, 0 and three assist.
You got to be kidding us, right?
So you don’t see the quickness, the handle, the fantastic vision and fakes that Rondo has to get open or make passes? Stop copying Gary Payton. He was a hater!
The Celtics are old and if you watched enough Celtic games, you’d know that those guys need Rondo a whole lot more than he needs them.
He makes it so easy for them. And he would score more if they weren’t there. All those guys score when he’s on the floor, including the subs.
He carved my Knicks up like a Thanksgiving Turkey!
October 30th, 2010 at 11:27 am
K says:
Steph Curry Got Destroyed by Eric Gordon
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VolROn1613o&feature=player_embedded
October 30th, 2010 at 11:28 am
Mtx says:
Rondo does the same thing that kidd was doing but somehow he gets all the hate while kidd gets all the love. Maybe thats bcz hes a winner, people love to hate succesful people. if kidd had a ring or two would he be hated as much as rondo?
October 30th, 2010 at 11:32 am
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
I’m so intrigued by GSW, 2-0 playing good basketball and their “Big 3″ are all existing cohesively. You know they may very well win 30 games this year but I’m trying ot keep it low.
So no control today?
October 30th, 2010 at 11:33 am
MSL says:
@Control
I know you out there.
You were right!
You said Rondo would never get 17 assist again.
How prophetic. He got 24 instead. Good call man.
You’re the new Nostrodamos!!
Smart!!
October 30th, 2010 at 11:50 am
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
@MSL
Yeah Rondo’s stat lines from the past 3 days
Game 1: 4 points 17 assists
Game 2: 18 points 9 assists
Game 3: 10 points 24 assists 10 rebounds
OMG he’s so overrated, cant shoot, he sucks, my X could out those up.
Keep talking…
October 30th, 2010 at 12:01 pm
CoolBreeze says:
Wow Orlando got rocked!!
Howard looked good. But the rest of the team didn’t show up.
Dwayne Wade said that they really played good flash out defense on the outside shooters. Okay?
Let’s see what happens when Miami plays next at Orlando? But that was scary! And how good are the Celtics to almost blow them out? Yeah. I know it was their first game. I can’t wait for the rematch in November in South Beach with the Celts.
Lebron under twenty points for 2 games in a row for the first time in 2-3 yrs huh? I hope he’s still happy.
Did I see a Mike Beasley sighting in Minnesota last night?
Speaking bout Minnesota. Wesley Johnson got some serious hops and can shoot to (at least in College).
Shout out to the Nets and Avery Johnson. Their 2-0. They didn’t win 2 games until their 20+ game (December) last year. Brooks Lopez is a near (or can be a) Beast!
Wow! A lot of hate on Rondo on a historical day for him (tied for most assist ever 1st three games to start a NBA season and most assist in a triple double ever).
Every name up there with him on those two records were spotless (John Stockton, Magic Johnson, Isaiah Thomas, Oscar Robertson).
You think folks would wait until Rondo had a bad stretch or game or something before they criticize? I guess not?
Some guy mentioned a good game that CP3 had last night to argue against Rondo. And beside the fact, that I’m sure he/she probably didn’t see last nights Knicks/Boston game. But can’t anyone pick one game and say “look what I did” vs someone else?
Rondo had a great game to and touched on a little history. 24 assist is TWENTY FOUR FREAKIN ASSIST MAN!!!
Can we just leave it at that (until the next game of course)?
October 30th, 2010 at 12:04 pm
LakeShow84 says:
I WANT TO KNOW WHO THE FRICK IS PLAYING BATMAN AND WHO IS ROBIN ON THE HEAT???!!
I really just want the DIME writers to answer that question
LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
Happy Halloween peoples!!!
Im out like LBJ’s legacy lolololololollololol
October 30th, 2010 at 12:07 pm
Jay10do says:
Rondo one of the best and pure pgs in the league period, Melo clearly is ready to go NYK,CHI, and NO would even be nice. Oh yea the Cavs suck! Go HEAT!!!!!!
October 30th, 2010 at 12:09 pm
Otto says:
Wait, that’s what that hand gesture means? Wow, Miami Heat, way to play the role of villains. As much as I dislike the team, it’s actually kind of badass.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:13 pm
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
@LakeShow
To me that is their biggets problem, we all expected LBJ to step off and be Magic but I’m pretty sure that aint happening. They are at their best when one of them is dominating which relegates the other to ball watching.
If they finally work it out, the league better watch out. If not, well there is always next year.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:18 pm
MSL says:
@Stunnaboy
I’m guessing you trying to be funny and agreeing with me?
Cause that stat line that you put up actually looks good for Rondo bro. Lol.
It’s a new season and Rondo is trying to get some of his new team mates involved (or the ones that rode the bench like Marquis Grissom). But I would hope he scores more than his 14 points a game last year.
His scoring average should be around 15-16.5 points a game this year, with 48-51% shooting, 11-12 assist and two steals.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:26 pm
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
@MSL
I see you don’t understand sarcasm. I was trying to imitate what Rondo haters say when they eliminate all his positives and exaggerate the negatives. It’s funny to read after Rondo drops 10/10/24 like he did.
I was agreeing with you, if you don’t understand again.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
Ian says:
Raptor so I can sub magic johnson for those three players as well since he was passing to all those hofers?
October 30th, 2010 at 12:28 pm
MSL says:
@ Stunnaboy.
Yeah. GSW is fun to watch and got a lot of players. But they can’t play D for shit and their games look like a Roller Derby.
Watching Eastern vs Western Conference ball is like comparing the US to Europe or Canada. Similar people, structure, clothes, money etc. But just a completely different style.
I guess we can say the same about European Basketball to?
October 30th, 2010 at 12:30 pm
MSL says:
@Stunnaboy.
I know.
That’s what I thought (sarcasm). That’s why I asked.
But you can’t be to sure. You know there’s a plethora of haters on this site, always ready to jump out the woodwork. Lol.
But thanks.
Yeah. Miami, GSW, Orlando and Boston will be interesting to watch this year.
October 30th, 2010 at 12:31 pm
Ian says:
X0t
Lopez is awesome bro
October 30th, 2010 at 12:35 pm
Ian says:
Lakeshow
I hate him as much as u do but bron is batman
October 30th, 2010 at 12:41 pm
okcwins says:
hahaha, Rose took another loss tonight without even playing a game.
Rondo, Harris, Westbrook. Pg’s are playing with a chip on their shoulder because of all the undeserved hype Rose is getting. At this rate Rose won’t even be top 10 by the end of the season.
Anyone that still argues Rose>Rondo or Westbrook is either on drugs, trying to get a rise out of real bball fans who know whats up, or hardcore bulls fans that refuse to admit their boy is overrated.
Both Rose and his fans lost. Rondo ftw
October 30th, 2010 at 12:56 pm
QQ says:
The Heat destroyed us.. Fact. They’re now officially scary. Daaamn. We’ll get back up, though. that’s a guarantee.
And why are there so many Rondo haters out here? Just because Dime is hyping him. For every scrub Dime is representing (Gerald Green, T-Mac), for sure, there’s a legit cat out there too. And Rondo is legit. SO DAMN CRAFTY. One of the most unconventional point guards in years, but one of the best today. Just freaking deal with it.
October 30th, 2010 at 1:10 pm
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
@MSL
Nice to know we are on the same place with this Rondo thing.
I’m still trying to petition the GSW to the Golden State Fantasy All Stars. Lets recap:
Game 1 vs Rockets
Stephen Curry: 25 points 11 assists 3 threes
Monta Ellis: 46 points (18-24) 3 rebounds 3 assists
Dorrel Wright: 15 points 3 threes
David Lee: 17 points 15 rebounds 6 assists
Game 2 vs Clippers
Stephen Curry: 16 points 6 assists a three and 2 steals
Monta Ellis: 15 points 11 assists 3 threes
Dorrel Wright: 24 points 8 rebounds 6 threes
David Lee: 15 points 12 rebounds 3 assists
Yeah, the Golden State Fantasy All-Stars it is
October 30th, 2010 at 1:37 pm
Tim says:
No mention of Stuckey? He’s looking much more aggressive this year, and through 2 games, he’s average 8 assists.
October 30th, 2010 at 1:39 pm
MSL says:
@ Stunnaboy
Yeah. Those are some good numbers out in Golden State. And the way they play their offense (and can I say lack of defense), they should put up a lot of points and stats.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:04 pm
That's What's Up says:
way to man up QQ. respect.
I finally get to watch the Spurs play tonight, hopefully putting the smack down on CP3′s whiny little bitch-ass. fuckin’ cheatin’ punk
October 30th, 2010 at 2:21 pm
NYC Hoops says:
@That’s what’s up
I think you got it the other way around.
Von Wafer put the smack down on Delonte.
The reports are that Delonte, swung and missed or grazed Von Wafer when he was sitting on the bench. But then Von Wafer got up and clocked Delonte twice, then wrestled/knocked him down to the ground, till they were pulled apart
Check out the story.
October 30th, 2010 at 2:56 pm
Big Snacks says:
@ K -
Actually, Steph sprained his ankle (3rd game in a row he’s sprained the same ankle) trying to get over a Blake Griffin screen.
And if you watched the GSW game last night, you’ll notice they’re a different team this year…much better spacing, sharing of the ball, etc.
Defense still needs work, but we’re only 2 games into the season.
October 30th, 2010 at 3:48 pm
it is i says:
RONDO is BITCH HAHAHAHA
October 30th, 2010 at 3:57 pm
Sporty-j says:
The refs need to stop with this overreating with the TECHNICAL FOUL calls. These are grown a$$ men not little kids and they are taking the passion out the game. Hope Stern realizes this was a big mistake because i still dont know why Howard and Lebron got T-up and 2000 benjamins just dont grow on trees. Hope the Union does something about it and the players should protest these refs with way to much power. You cant even sneeze without getting T-up…
October 30th, 2010 at 4:24 pm
s.bucketz says:
its easy to get 24 assists when no1 is standing within 10 ft of you and you have clear ass passing and driving lanes and as much as it pains me to say it, the squad ur running against is the knicks.
rondo not knowing how to shoot a jumper is the best thing for his game at this point…once the big 3 are gone i dunno how him and baby are gunna survive playin in the pick and pop game all day wit no other threats around em
i still dont want the ball in the hands of a pg that shoots like 50% from the line tho
i really hope miami isnt gunna keep doin that “mouths closed” thing all year…its not nearly as gay as the cavs dipset 3 pointer thing tho…considering dipset hasn’t been a relevant group in years
and miami’s opener was weeeeeeeeeakkkk..are you kiddin me dime???that was seriously one of the worst intros for a team ever…i hope they were goin for a stoic over hyped feel..but the announcer seemed bored..and i heard the game wasn’t even sold out???thas a shame..where are the sporty-j’s of the world???
October 30th, 2010 at 4:26 pm
s.bucketz says:
ooh yea…how about Wilson fuckin Chandler gettin a T????i never seen that man show any kind of expression at all
October 30th, 2010 at 4:50 pm
S.A.C says:
@Sbucket.
You’re not making any sense. But I know you already know that already.
“It’s so easy” to get 24 assist. Yeah. I guess its so easy that no one has had that many assist in 21 years. Okay!
As far as people playing off Rondo, most quick guards in the NBA with out great jump shots are played several feet off. That’s nothing new. Are those guys getting 24 assist to? How long you been looking at the NBA man? If that’s the case, half the NBA starting point guards should be averaging 16.6 assist(the way you describe it) so far this season.
Also by your logic, Derrick Fisher for the Lakers, should be averaging 16.6 assist as well, for playing with Pau, Odom and Kobe. You wanna throw in Arroyo to? Let’s wait for his 24?
Rondo would average more points, and still get 10 assist if the big three weren’t there. He’s helping them, more than their helping him the past few seasons. If anything those guys are holding him back now from a faster pace and more scoring opportunities. He doesn’t have to shoot much, cause their there. And why would he, when he shoots 52% from the field (last season)?
The crazed, knee jerk, ridiculous Rondo bashing is getting old. Give the man his due, or just stay quiet when he excels.
You know his shot is better than you think, and he’s taking it more this season.
Let’s see, instead of condemning a 24yr old guard that’s still learning/getting better in his first 3 games of the new season, why not just wait and see?
Your knocking at Team (Miami) that had a 20 point win vs an “elite” team? Also, I’m sure the game was sold out. And even if it wasn’t, there were only 200 $160 tickets left. Please Let’s not exaggerate and hate.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:24 pm
s.bucketz says:
you obviously don’t play point guard nutS.A.C.
October 30th, 2010 at 5:30 pm
s.bucketz says:
arroyo cant do it cuz he doesn’t have the ball in his hands unless hes bout to shoot
fisher plays in the triangle offense…not a very pg friendly offense
how long have u been watchin the nba for??
you got somethin dribblin out the corner of ur mouth…quit slurpin up that S.A.C. juice kid
October 30th, 2010 at 5:32 pm
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
@s.bucketz
Ah, the 3 HOF argument, never gets old.
Ray Allen is a catch and shoot guy who is streaky as hell. So he has to have someone to pass the ball to him right? KG gets most his points off open top of the key J’s set up mostly by a penetrating guard. Big Baby needs the ball to be delivered to him in his sweet spots to be effective. So that’s 3/4 of the Celtics top scorers who RELY on Rondo for their offense, but I guess he still sucks right? I mean we all know Sessions could drop 16.6 assists per game with the Celtics right?
The words “easy” and “24 assists” should never be spoken together. I end with that point.
October 30th, 2010 at 6:03 pm
vago says:
DIME, Tony Parker just signed a 5y /50mil extension with the spurs…
October 30th, 2010 at 6:27 pm
s.bucketz says:
you jus kinda co-signed my statement stunnaboy…ramon sessions has put up 20 assist games in milwaukee so im pretty sure he could get 24 wit the big 3..easy..real fuckin easy
October 30th, 2010 at 6:33 pm
s.bucketz says:
i wonder how rondo would have done in milwaukee that year??hes the greatest pg of our generation he should have been able to take them to the finals
October 30th, 2010 at 6:51 pm
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
Who calls Rondo the greatest PG of our generation? We just say he is good, top 5 maybe but then what i hate is random haters coming in and saying dropping 24 assists is shit anyone could do. Like someone above me said, I guess Magics assists didn;t mean shit since he was playing with 2 HOF at their peaks.
You saying Sessions = Rondo is the epitamy of ignorance. I’m sure if he played for the Knicks you’d be loving him, but I guess you’d much rather have Felton am I right?
October 30th, 2010 at 6:53 pm
Ian says:
shit bucketz how can you say its easy?? it hard to get 10 man doesnt matter whos around you. like i said magic most be the most overrated pg ever then because he passed to better players than the big three.
the triangle offense isnt the only reason why fisher cant do it. its because he sucks.
October 30th, 2010 at 7:05 pm
S.A.C says:
@Slimebucket.
Wow! You still at it?
Why you such a bitter, delusional, repetitive, Crazed, non basketball playing or knowing hater Slut/semen Bucket (you started that stuff). I see you still at it? Why? Give it up man (See Stunnaboy above for good reasons).
You really hate Rondo that much? You must be 5yrs old.
You’re type of emotional juvenilism really don’t need a response. But nonetheless, I’ll throw a dime in your bucket of lies. Now on Arroyo:
Do you really think if Rajon Rondo, Chris Paul or any one of that caliber went to Miami, that Lebron would still be the primary ball handler? Why would Lebron give himself more work when he don’t have to? And if you do believe that then. Then Miami, would of traded Arroyo for some that can shoot. Obviously Arroyo is not good enough, so he has to catch and shoot (that he can’t even do).
You still haven’t answered the question on why haven’t 3/4 other point guards gotten 24 assist in the past 21 years and why only 3 more point guards averaged more assist last year than Rondo (and all those guys were in the west where they take more shots and play less defense)did last year?
You sure you not Buster Brown as opposed to S.Bucktetz?
If you can use your argument for Fisher. Then I’ll use the argument that the Big 3 are old, slowing Rondo down and taking away shots and fast break scoring and passing opportunities. So what?
Thanks for hanging and slurping on MY nuts slurp-bucket.
E-Nuts Slurped/Said on the subject now!! Begone Hater (and non-b.ball player)!!
October 30th, 2010 at 7:14 pm
S.A.C says:
PS: The reason why your such a bitter hater. Cause this wasn’t a post about Rondo being the best or where he stands (though that can be argued).
The article was about his outstanding night and his effect on the Celtics. That’s it. Relax man!
Do you want me to argue why Amare ain’t shit with out a good point guard and why he’s more athletic than skilled?
See the point?
Relax and just let the hate seep out of your sludge bucket.
October 30th, 2010 at 8:36 pm
Sporty-j says:
You guys are making me laugh on here. Carlos Arryoy on a serious tip is not even the best PG on his own team. If it wasnt for the Spanish community down here in Miami. He wouldnt even be on this team because he clearly does not fit with this group of guys. Eddie House hustles way harder than Arroyo and Arroyo better start working on his 3 point shot ASAP because he is clearly hurting our offense and House should be the starter by now. When Mike Miller comes back Arroyo is going to 3rd string PG. Arroyo would not even be starting right now if Chalmers was not hurt. Stack House might even come off the bench before Arroyo pretty soon and theres a reason why the ball stays in Lebron hands…
October 30th, 2010 at 10:26 pm
QQ says:
DAAAAAMN. SO freaking sick of hearing that it’s easy to bag 24 assists because Rondo is surrounded by HOF’s. That’s like the fucking argument that Jennings’ 55 points last years against GSW wass ‘easy’ because it’s against a defenseless team.
Yeah we know. Rondo is one arrogant bitch. But he’s one arrogant bitch that can fucking PLAY.
Yall know I hate Bron like yall Rondo (actually, more than yall hate Rondo. COMBINED), but I recognize and accept the fact that Bron is a superb basketball player, the kind that comes along once in every 15-20 years. He’s a beast. That’s how good he is.
And I’ll never overlook that. My hater goggles will always be overcome by my NBA fan goggles, because once I don’t recognize what Bron can do, my argument will ALWAYS be invalid.
That’s the way with Rondo, too. Diss him cause he can’t shoot, diss him because he’s an annoying bitch, etc. But once he drops 10-10-FUCKING TWENTY FOUR, yall should know your place and just shut the hell up.
October 30th, 2010 at 10:39 pm
Mtx says:
@s.bucketz
so, according to your logic, stockton is an average pg cuz he played alongside malone, the best finisher close to the rim. all he had to do was throw the ball to him and pile up assists.
cmon man we all know that both the passer and the finisher should receive the praise for an assist
October 30th, 2010 at 11:31 pm
s.bucketz says:
you dumb shits gotta learn how to read…i didnt say he sucks cuz he dropped 24 assists…i said him droppin 24 assists on that squad is not some insane feat that u should all be slobberin his s.a.c. for..
and yea jennings dropped 55 cuz gsw dont guard no1…how many other times last year did he drop 50+??
what kind of numbers would u say rondo puts up on a squad like detroit min or clevland??
and no i would much rather prefer felton over rondo on the knicks right now…or any pg that can shoot a wide open 12 footer
October 30th, 2010 at 11:39 pm
CoolBreeze says:
@S.buketz
Not to pile on top of what’s already been said.
But you got to give it up man!
By your logic Magic Johnson, John Stockton, Maurice Cheeks, Jason Kidd, etc., all sucked cause they played with great players or had no jump shot.
But at the same time (using your logic)the much maligned Carlos Arroyo, Derrick Fisher, Dennis Johnson, Tony Parker and BJ Armstrong (yes I know about the triangle) should be better or average more assist then they did cause they played with great players?
Come on man. We talking about 24 Friggin assist and you up here hating and trying to point out why its not that impressive or Rondo is not great? Give it a break and just celebrate or quietly hate!! 24 Assist!?
You acting crazy!
October 30th, 2010 at 11:45 pm
CoolBreeze says:
@S.buketz
I just saw your post above. This is what you said:
“and no i would much rather prefer felton over rondo on the knicks right now…or any pg that can shoot a wide open 12 footer”
Oh really S.Buketz?
My you really are friggin insane, delusional, bitter (like someone said earlier) and a supreme hater.
I’m not even going to explain why that statement is drug induced and peep the fact that Rondo smoked Felton in the Knick pre-season and the first game of the season and couldn’t guard Rondo worth shit (and everyone knew it including the Knick announcers, Walt Clyde Frazier and Mike Bream who kept repeating it).
Please take your meds Homey.
No offense.
October 31st, 2010 at 12:04 am
Kermit The Washington says:
The Heat looked real good, but they are not playoff-ready. They’re going to be a beast until the playoffs start, and then their wild inconsistency is going to come back to haunt them. They were clicking on all cylinders against the Magic in that game for sure, but I would almost guarantee they follow this up with an L (but I’m not quite sure who they’re playing, so I won’t guarantee that LOL)
October 31st, 2010 at 12:14 am
Sporty-j says:
To be honest no guy is sorry weather they are 3rd string or whatever in any sport because those guys made it to the league while we are here commenting about if they suck, are overrated or whatever. I mean Rondo just had 24 freaking DIMES in a NBA game and i dont care if he had the 92 DREAM TEAM around him. This is the NBA not high school. Im sure you realize now S.Bucketz how foolish you sound once you think about it. RIGHT??? Trust me sold-out down here but some of the prices are just to high to even watch the game live in the NOSE bleed sections. Im sure you know that to from just COMMON SENSE. RIGHT??? There are a lot of S.BUCKETZ of the world though. Unfortunately there at the MENTAL HOSPITAL and im starting to wonder if you really are Delonte West just trying to take your frustrations out on another 1 of your teammates??? If thats you Delonte, how the heck did you miss on puching a man when his freaking back was turned and he was sitting down??? Are you still dating Lebrons mom and what did Rondo do to you to have beef with him now to???
October 31st, 2010 at 12:34 am
Jay10do says:
whole lot of Rondo and Heat! haters must be Laker fans…
October 31st, 2010 at 1:35 am
ricky ross says:
fuck all u fagots talking shit about rondo. one of the top pg in the league. talking shit saying hes got good players around him. yea that was true 2 years ago. he makes his team better now. once again, fuck haters
October 31st, 2010 at 1:35 am
s.bucketz says:
wowwww…u guys are delusional…comparing rondo to magic, j-kidd and stockton??u guys are retarded..i dont feel good bout winning an argument wit a bunch of retards wit rondo splooge all in their eyeballs
and yea felton over rondo all day on NY right now..maybe if it was still riley or JVG still coachin but not in the pringles can’s offense which is based on shooters to open up the middle(which is why NY is fuckin up right now)…shows how much u guys know
October 31st, 2010 at 1:35 am
s.bucketz says:
how come no1 wants to comment on what kind of numbers the greatest pg of all time would put up on a squad without 3 HOFs??scurrred of the truth
October 31st, 2010 at 2:26 am
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
Um remember when KG was injured during the playoffs 2 years ago? When he put up a very Magic-esque 16.9/9.7/9.8. Your comeback is….
I don’t know why we are even arguing. Sure pick Felton, who let his man shit all over him to a triple double. I am so sure that any sound reasonable NYK fan would like Felton running their show instead of Rondo. Everyone.
I love how the guy who can’t spell is calling everyone else a retard. I applaud your foolishness.
October 31st, 2010 at 2:38 am
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
You lost all credibility with me when you said D’Antoni runs ANYTHING besides a high pace Run N Gun offense. The Knicks suck because well the Knicks suck. you better hope you get Melo but knowing you I bet you’d rather start Gallo.
October 31st, 2010 at 3:13 am
s.bucketz says:
and what happened in those playoffs???ohh yea
what happened last year when the lakers were backin 10 ft off him???i bet doc rivers woulda blown felton for a year for 1 quater of work
October 31st, 2010 at 3:35 am
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
In 09 they went to the game 7 of the Eastern Conference semi Finals as MASSIVE underdogs and somehow pulled past Chicago and almost beat eventual finalists Orlando. All without their best defender and emotional leader KG.
In ’10 he dominates Miami, Cleveland and Orlando on the Celtics way to the Finals and leads them to 3 wins, with a triple double in game 2. Oh, that game 7 your talking about? He had a double double (14 points 10 assist 8 rebounds). The reason why the Celtics lost was because a) Ray Allen was ice cold and b) They got killed on the glass, but I’m sure Felton would have changed that.
Oh Btw 2010 Playoffs for Felton 12/5 against Orlando. Rondo? 14/8. Not much difference? Okay here’s the real kicker Nelson vs Felton 23.8/4.5 Nelson vs Rondo? 17/4. So Rondo somehow kept Nelson 6 points lower than Felton did. And Felton played on maybe the number one ranked defense last year.
So I think that just refutes all your points…
October 31st, 2010 at 4:51 am
QQ says:
@ 80: Just giving it up you fucking shithead. The moment you said Felton over Rondo, your ass got exposed. Shouln’t have said that, you bitchass. Your like kids in grade school arguing bout Pokemon then you say something just to stir things up, but your actually thinking ‘Oh not that one, I take that back’ but you won’t cause you already said that.
Felton over Rondo.
Felton over Rondo.
Raymond Felton over Rajon Rondo.
WHAT A FUCKING DUMBASS.
October 31st, 2010 at 10:39 am
Sporty-j says:
You guys are being a little to ruff and harsh on S.BUCKETZ. You guys have to keep in mind that the poor guy has been watching the Knicks for past couple of years and that would drive any man INSANE. Plus they did not get Lebron because the New York media told him they would. Now he has to wait another 2yrs to hopefully have Melo and CP3 so you can just imagine the poor NEW YORK STATE OF MIND hes in. PLEASE HAVE MERCY ON HIM FOR THAW NOWETH NOT WHAT THAW SAY. Poor guy!!!
October 31st, 2010 at 11:51 am
MSL says:
@S.bucketz
You do realize that Magic Johnson and Jason Kidd had two of the ugliest jumpshots ever (10x much uglier than Rondo’s), and Maurice was a terrible jump shooter?
So by your standards, Raymond Felton of the Knicks is a keeper over those hall of fame guys and Rajon Rondo?
What an idiot you are my brother!!
October 31st, 2010 at 12:12 pm
MSL says:
@S.bucketz
And in case you didn’t know, I was talking about Maurice Cheeks of the Phila 76′s above.
How come those guys didn’t have jump shots, but were still great all time point guards?
A jump shot isn’t everything at the position, though it’s a valuable commodity to have indeed.
A point guard that has a good jump shot is liable to shoot too much and take the team out of it’s flow.
When a point guard doesn’t have a great jumper, he’s more liable to pass to his team mates or drive to the basket for his own shot or to create for his team mates (while picking up fouls or off rebounds). It’s not always a bad thing.
You notice even excellent point guards that can shoot like Deron, CP3, John Stockton, Steve Nash, don’t take a lot of jumpers relative to their total shots or their team mates?
Because once you start missing (even hitting) those shots, you can take your team out the flow and make your big men and other scorers very angry! It’s too easy to just step back and jack up shots when you shoot well at the position (with every one standing around watching you).
Team mates would rather play with pass first point guards than shoot first ones any day. It’s always a balance/tight rope if you can shoot at the position.
Remember Magic and Jason Kidd were in the league for years before they could should and their shots were still ugly (especially Magic).
But I know, you would still choose Raymond Felton over them or Rondo?
That’s like a Derrick Rose hater saying, he’d rather have Mo Williams over Derrick Rose (score first point guards)?
Dumb Ass!!
October 31st, 2010 at 12:25 pm
MSL says:
@Stunnaboy
Though he almost had a triple double in game 7 and Ray Allen, Paul Pierce were Ice Cold, while the Celtics couldn’t rebound; Remember Rondo also got hurt in the Orlando series (via DWight Howard) and that seem to slow him down in the finals.
But that’s a argument for another day or let’s just agree that was last year and the finals are over. It’s a new season.
But this dude would rather take Raymond Felton that Rondo, despite the fact that Rondo torched Felton in the Pre-season and the reg season and can’t keep Rondo in front of him.
It’s like a shark seeing blood in the ocean, Rondo just smells and attacks when he sees Felton’s Porpoise ass flapping in the ocean!
October 31st, 2010 at 1:03 pm
NYC says:
@S.Buketz
Like someone said above. What you said was tantamount to a Derrick Rose hater saying they Prefer Mo Williams over Rose, cause Rose got the green light in Chicago.
I love the Knicks to. But Raymond Felton over Rajon Rondo love?
I heard of reckless hate. But are you on LSD man?
Rondo abused our Knicks and molested and sodomized Felton repeatedly till he should of been arrested.
Are you freaking Kidding me? Plus you said 24 assist is not that easy playing with HOF’s.
Those guys are old and not the same players they were in their 20′s (can’t create their on shot, except maybe Pierce sometimes). Rondo is their engine!
Do you actually watch the games?
Twenty four Assist!!
October 31st, 2010 at 1:53 pm
dogstar says:
There is a distinct diffrence between being a point guard and a playmaker. Rondo is both.
A point guard simply functions as the point person for getting their teams into their offensive sets and orchestrates things generally from the top.
Playmakers are that special breed that can create good offensive situations though intuit guile. Rondo is one of the best at it, while RapTOR , Arroyo and Calderon and many others do not possesses that kinetic gene.
Be advised that “Lucky” was the name of the Celtic’s mascot and he got fired!
October 31st, 2010 at 5:21 pm
s.bucketz says:
holy shit u guys are seriously retarded…i stopped reading all comments cuz ther jus redundant rondo slurping..and ur still puttin him in the same category as stockton, kidd, magic, nash, cp3 dwill????holy shit u guys gotta get the dick out ur mouth…
and still..no1 wants to say wut kind of numbers he would put up on a squad without 3 HOFs
which is the main point of my first statement
October 31st, 2010 at 5:28 pm
Stunnaboy2K11 says:
Didn’t we establish that he dropped 16.7/9.8/9.7 without KG, in the playoffs no less. So…
October 31st, 2010 at 5:46 pm
s.bucketz says:
still wit 2 other HOFs and a decent front line for a few games
October 31st, 2010 at 9:58 pm
MSL says:
Look Shitbucketz.
How the fuck do you expect anyone to predict the future?
But since your dumb ass wants to continue this and you apparently like the attention.
I’ll throw something out at your dumb ass. But if you did read the comments above, you would of got the answer to your question.
Rondo’s statistics would be similar to what he has now. The only difference is his points would be up.
He’d probably average 18-20 points 10 assist and 2 steals. Okay Fuzzbucket!!??
You obviously don’t watch Rondo play or have read anything anyone said here. Those guys are old and washed up. If anything they slow Rondo down. None of them create their own shot anymore, except P.Pierce sometimes. Rondo also piles up assist, no matter who’s in the game (Baby, Grissom, etc.). Do you actually watch Boston play?
With out Rondo, those guys averages would drop by 3-5 points a piece and the Celtics record would take a 5-10 game hit.
Do you see the easy shots he gets those guys all the time?
Nobody on the Celtics can break down a defense now. He’s the only guy they have that can do that on a regular basis throughout a whole game.
Why is that so hard for you to believe. Then again, you feel Felton is better than Rondo.
What an Asshole!!
November 1st, 2010 at 1:03 am
snarf says:
low blow to the raptors and cavs lol dickheads
November 1st, 2010 at 10:41 am
JAY says:
@Raptor
Stop blasting that hot air bud. Rondo doesn’t HAVE to play with Hall-of-famers to get assists. He’s creating FOR them. Not the other way around. Put him on any team with dudes who can hit open jumpers and he’ll still do the same thing. He’s almost as good at finding the open man as Nash and Kidd are.
The same crap you’re spewing can be said about Kidd and the stable full of scorers he has in Dallas. The kid is sick. Give him respect. You’ll feel silly spewing that garbage once the Big Ol’ 3 retire and he’s averaging +10 assists to no-names.
November 1st, 2010 at 12:08 pm
ReddiRed says:
@ s.bucketz …..and other rondo haters.
Just stop.
Please……honestly…….just stop man.
rondo is that deal right now. he see’s the court as well as anyone in the league. his defense is nice. no, he doesn’t have the best shot in the world, but he compensates in soooo many ways for that.
I’m not sure if I wouldn’t put him at 4th best in the league right now.
1. deron williams
2. jason williams
3. CP3
4. rondo
November 1st, 2010 at 12:10 pm
ReddiRed says:
4th and climbing fast!
November 1st, 2010 at 1:43 pm
QQ says:
@red:
2.Jason Williams?
Damn, cat. He’s on my squad but he’s not even the no.2 pg in the Magic rotation.
November 1st, 2010 at 2:22 pm
MSL says:
@Reddidad
Did you mean Jason Kidd (though that would be highly debatable)?
Jason Williams??????????????????????????????????????????????