Smack / Feb 22, 2011 / 1:54 am

Carmelo, Chauncey and Amar’e: The Knicks get their own Big Three

(image. Ryan Hurst)

Now that the deed is done, there’s one lingering question: While the Knicks certainly got better overnight by trading for Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups to form a Big Three with Amar’e Stoudemire, did they improve their standing in the Eastern Conference at all? Forget the Celtics and Heat. Have the Knicks done enough to overtake the Magic, Bulls or Hawks? … In case you haven’t heard, here’s the fallout: New York gets Carmelo, Chauncey, Shelden Williams, Anthony Carter, Renaldo Balkman and Corey Brewer (from Minnesota); Denver gets Ray Felton, Danilo Gallinari, Wilson Chandler, Timofey Mozgov, one first-round pick, two second-round picks and cash; and Minnesota gets Anthony Randolph, Eddy Curry and a legion of happy pizza delivery guys in the greater Minneapolis/St. Paul area … We can understand those who don’t like the trade for New York saying Donnie Walsh (or Isiah?) gave up too much depth. But the people saying the Knicks will now give up 120 points a night, well, have you looked at the players involved? Chandler can play D, but it’s not like he’s Bruce Bowen. It wasn’t that long ago when Kobe dropped 61 on his head. Brewer can at least do that. And it’s not like Felton, Gallo and Mozgov are lock-down artists. Randolph and Curry don’t even play anyway, Chauncey is solid, so how much worse defensively could the Knicks really have become? … Further reports say Nuggets will trade Felton to another team before Thursday in order to clear the way for Ty Lawson to start. (The Hawks should see if they can do something.) Wasn’t it only 3-4 weeks ago that Felton was getting All-Star buzz and being hyped up as Mike D’Antoni‘s new and improved Steve Nash? Now he’s getting passed around like a hand-me-down hoodie … Now that the ‘Melo chip has fallen, the next superstar who will learn to hate being interviewed is Deron Williams. He’s a free agent in 2012, and with his reputation in Utah shaky following the Jerry Sloan situation, the rumors are already flowing on where D-Will could end up. “I definitely don’t want to go through that,” Deron told reporters after the All-Star Game. “It’s distracting. It can get to you. It’s a pain.” Deron also denied the rumor that he wants to play for the Knicks … It’s amazing how negative some New Yorkers can be. We’re already hearing a lot of Knicks fans complain about ‘Melo — basically the same people who would have found something not to like if their team had signed LeBron. You would think that coming off the Zeke era, Knicks fans would just be happy that they have three current/recent All-Stars and potential Hall of Famers on the roster … The Celtics are trying to make a move before the deadline, and Shane Battier and Anthony Parker have been mentioned. We don’t know how much Shane does or doesn’t want to leave Houston, but we’re pretty sure Parker is looking at Boston like a castaway who sees a helicopter in the distance. Is it legal to fire off a flare gun in an NBA arena? … After missing out on ‘Melo, the Nets might just make any old trade now just because. We hear they’re talking to Portland about Andre Miller and Joel Przybilla, which would cost New Jersey Devin Harris and Troy Murphy. But why would the Blazers do that? Unless they simply want to get Miller out of the way for Brandon Roy‘s sake, Harris doesn’t seem like as good of a sit for them as Miller … The Blazers are also rumored to be among the teams talking to Charlotte about Stephen Jackson and Gerald Wallace. After working so hard to erase the “Jail Blazers” stigma, would they really bring in Captain Jack? Then again, Jackson is the kind of guy who would totally thrive off that rabid Portland crowd … The NBA is back in action on the court tonight. Games to watch: Hawks at Lakers (Kobe gunning to snap a 3-game losing streak), Clippers at Thunder (Blake Griffin visits his next NBA home?), Bucks at Wolves (Andrew Bogut and Kevin Love might lose 8 teeth between them), and Memphis at Denver (The Day After) … We’re out like Anthony Randolph …

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  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    The Knicks will have the same winning percentage from this point on. They won’t get worst, and they won’t be better. Book it.
    The guys saying this trade is awesome for the Knicks, are the same people who said the Bulls should trade Deng and Noah for Melo. Thank goodness the Bulls didn’t to make that deal.

    The Knicks essentially traded 3 studs (Gallo, Chandler, Felton) who collectively averaged 49pts (2 who played defence… and won’t even talk about the chemistry the Knicks had). They received 41pts, got 2 dudes who don’t play D, and one guy who historically doesn’t play well with other high scoring players. I don’t see them doing better than the team was before the trade. They better make this work… if not, NY will boo La-La on whatever show she hosts.

  • http://getyourishbusted.net Chicagorilla

    giving up 1st rnd draft picks isn’t a big deal, especially when your team is going to be a 20th pick or higher. Not many great players come from those.

    Just look at the top team in the L, how many of them are built through the draft? Most of the big pieces or starters are picked up through trade or FA.

    Bulls (Booz as a FA)
    Lakers (Pau in a “trade”)
    Boston (KG, Ray, Shaq, JO through FA or trade)
    Spurs (RJ in trade/FA)
    HEat (LBJ, Bosh in FA)
    Magic (Arenas, HEdo, JRich through trade)
    ATL (Joe Johnson, JCrawford FA/trade)

    Only OKC has built their team thru the draft and remains good.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    I just read an article defending the Knicks move to trade for Anthony now, rather than waiting to sign him in the off-season… and basically said “Lebron was supposed to sign in NY last year, and look what happened. They HAD to make this deal or risk losing him to someone else”
    That comparison would work if Lebron actually said he’d only play in NY, like Melo did. That’s the big difference. Who else had the capspace to sign him outright?? They could have…. Correction… They WOULD have acquired him and still kept Chandler, and Felton. Fuck Gallo. He’s basically Bargnani Jr., and I hate that guy.

  • Ian

    chicago
    i think you can take off the spurs and that rj thing off your list.

    td
    parker
    manu
    blair
    hill
    splitter

    were drafted by the spurs and not only that only td was a lower than 20 pick.

  • James

    Hello Melo! Welcome to the Knicks!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9S2sLe8VuMo

  • dagwaller

    @ Chicagorilla – you usually make good points, but you’re a little off today.

    Lakers are good because of Kobe. Yes, Pau helped them make the leap, but no one would call them Pau’s team.

    The Bulls drafted Rose and Noah.

    The Celtics drafted Paul Pierce.

    The Spurs? RJ? Haha I think we both know better!

    The Heat drafted D Wade, with whom they won a championship.

    The Magic begin and end with Dwight Howard, drafted by Orlando. To a much lesser extent, Jameer Nelson, also drafted by Orlando.

    2 of Atlanta’s 3 best players are Josh Smith and Al Horford – drafted by the Hawks.

    Good teams, it seems, are drafted, not bought.

  • Donatello
  • Ian

    dag
    kobe pau and odom were trades

  • dagwaller

    Ian – Kobe came over in a draft day trade, I wouldn’t really count that.

    Odom was the LESSER piece of the trade that brought him, so I don’t know if I’d count that either.

  • LakeShow84

    Shaquille O’Neal for Lamar Odom and Caron Butler

    And people talk shit about the Gasol trade lol

    i think we were OWED after that F up lol

  • jdizzle

    Fuck! Now we(Chicago Bulls) have to deal with STAT AND The Bully! They already beat us twice WITHOUT Melo and if the playoffs started today we’d have to play the Knicks. I have confidence in my team though. Bulls in 7. The NBA: Where “Ain’t this a bitch!?” happens.

    Man I was thinking about this earlier just out of the blue. The Lakers team isn’t really built through the draft at all. Since they drafted/traded for Kobe and Fisher in the ’96 Draft the Lakers don’t really keep their draft picks. Outside of those two the longest tenured player that they drafted since then is Andrew Bynum(I think).

  • jdizzle

    @Lakeshow84
    And we all know who was responsible for that “F up”. There’s a difference between being traded and being ran out of town

  • First & Foremost

    There is more than one way to skin a cat.
    Drafting players and having the patience to watch them develop is nice. The problem with it is that it takes too long. The Thunder are one big man away from actually making noise, who knows when he will get there. What if injuries happen, I’m looking at you Portland. As long as the owner and fans have patience, you keep take 5 to 6 years to be a title contender.

    Building through free agency works in bigger markets. Fans pay top dollar to watch the games and if you don’t have a big name on the roster, you’ll have a bunch of coaching turnover-Philly & DC.

    For the most part you need both. Draft & develop role players then either play them or cash in on potential.

  • http://www.queeniechan.com/member/35740/ Treva Takemoto

    I will be interested to see how well Chauncey plays in NYC. I don’t think his heart will be in it. I don’t think he and Melo like each other all that much.

  • K Dizzle

    Chauncey got phucked on the deal. Colorado dude gets traded to his hometown team then Melo gets him shipped to NYC…..damn

  • Ian

    dag
    what does lesser piece even mean?? kobe wasnt drafted by the lakers it counts.

    your three best players came via trade

    lakeshow
    odom and caron for a almost done shaq?? and you are complaining?????? wtf did u want duncan in the trade also?

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