NBA, Smack / Mar 9, 2011 / 1:00 am

The Wheels Are Coming off in Miami; An EPIC Meltdown at the Big East Tournament

Dwyane Wade
Here’s something to cry about: The Miami Heat were beaten again last night, this time to the Portland Trail Blazers, taking their 5th L in a row. Miami was outrebounded, outshot and outhustled by the Blazers on their home floor, losing 105-96 … The Blazers had the lead for most of the game, but Miami battled back to tie it up at 77 at the start of the fourth on a sequence where Dwyane Wade blocked a Brandon Roy pullup jumper and raced the length of the court for the dunk. It was the kind of sequence that championship-caliber teams would use to turn the tables on their opponents to run them out of their gym. Miami is clearly not a championship-caliber team … LeBron had 31, but it was Wade who really came to play. As the Blazers snatched the lead back, it was Wade who kept Miami within striking distance all by himself, scoring 24 of his 38 points in the second half … The Blazers’ bench depth was overwhelming, outscoring Miami’s reserves 41-8. Gerald Wallace led the bench mob with 22 and nine boards, including a few moves in the lane that saw Wallace physically overpower LeBron. Not sure we’ve ever seen that happen to James with a non-center before. It was unsettling … “We Want Riley” chants started at AmericanAirlines Arena with the Heat down nine and eight minutes left in the game … When the final buzzer sounded and the broadcast switched back to the NBA TV studio, Chris Webber was pretending he was “misty-eyed.” He also pointed out that Miami would have to finish 18-0 to match the Cavs’ record from last year… Yesterday afternoon in the Dime office, we were fired up when we saw that Bucks/Wizards was on the Tuesday night lineup. The NBA is a league of matchups – on paper a Brandon Jennings/John Wall head-to-head matchup should be great. Speed vs. speed. Swagger vs. swagger. Two of the NBA’s best young guards battling for supremacy. And for the most part, those two did their respective jobs. Both guys pushed the pace like crazy, as Wall flirted with a triple-double, going for 10 points, nine rebounds, seven assists, and three steals and Jennings went for 23 (on multiple long threes), four dimes and three steals … Unfortunately though, the rest of their teammates were just horrendous. Missed layups, turnovers and knucklehead plays all over the floor made for a mess of a game. Milwaukee was less terrible, winning 95-76. Poor John Wall had the thousand-yard stare going in the second half … One highlight you will definitely be seeing today? In the first half, Wall tracked down Jennings on a break, elevated and smacked Brandon’s layup off the glass … The game was a good opportunity for the newly-acquired Wizard Jordan Crawford to turn the game into the “I’m Getting Mine Classic.” No way was he passing to anybody. He overdribbled and put it up every time he touched it, finishing with 22 … Read more: Psycho T goes off, the Lakers dominate another team from the East and an EPIC meltdown at MSG …

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  • Oscarisalakerfan

    Real early smack. I like it.

  • green machine

    do we really have like 20 or so more games of these three fools whining about losses, and the world is against them and lack of touches? Newsflash, thats what happens when three perennial all stars come together on the same team. Someone will always have the shorter end of the stick so everyone has to sacrifice for the greater good of the team

  • TL

    The ATL crowd is pathetic. Come on now, have some home pride. It’s not like the Hawks are a god awful team.

  • Promoman

    It’ll be interesting to see how Lance reacts now that people are finally starting to get on his ass. He’s a talent but he’s also one of those guys you see that are raging at teammates but never have shit to say when they fuck up, which they tend to do most noticeably, if not the most, in the first place.

  • BlazersBabyBri

    it was sooo funny tonight. i was at work listening to the blazers/heat game on the radio, and our play-by-play announcer said this at one point “chris bosh is terrible!” ha ha haha. i’m glad people are finally starting to realize that mr. ‘i’m not a number two guy’ is terrible. and he’s right, he’s not a ‘number two’ guy, he’s on a team where he’s AT BEST the number 3 option. ha ha ha!!!! and lamarcus ALWAYS beasts bosh every time they play against each other. *sigh* i’m going to bed happy tonight!

  • BRUCE

    Born Ready ain’t ready. Nice moniker but the monkey ain’t ready yet!

  • http://www.lakernation.com smoove chips

    Yessir!! Onwards!three-peat already.
    And dime ,there was nothing predictable about that win.It was a trap game if i ever saw one.

    I can only imagine wade playing in chi-town.that team would be beastly.Sucks to see him being sucked into LBJ’s vortex of nonsense.

    For what it’s worth it’s finally good to see lebron own up to something.Now just grind it out and play.Forget tweeting and all that other shyt and just play.

    i gotta say though..the grizz are really playing.I like that !!

    Oh and D-rose for MVP.It’s too right.That man deserves it.

  • iCARNACKi

    F*** you, f*** you, f*** you, Wade you’re cool, f*** you. I’m out.

  • yoda

    riley can’t help them if they are unable to hit clutch shots. he can’t play for them. but i’d like to see bosh and lbj in old school riley’s meat grinder in practices. magic once said that lakers had trash bins courtside, so players could throw up and go back to practice, when slick push them big time

  • S-SiN

    @iCARNACKi

    classic quote man! does any one know who cried in Heat locker room after the Bulls loss? I don’t think riles is gonna do it. on the other hand phil and mamba will. again.

  • johnny kilroy

    there was more ball and player movement from miami earlier

    again bench produced nothing

    bosh needs to man up and hustle on D if his shot ain’t fallin

  • First & Foremost

    @Johnny – You are asking Bosh to do something he doesn’t do. You act like the guy gets paid near Max money and was considered a superstar in the league and could things most power forward are asked to do.

    Atlanta basketball fans are just odd. They can’t even sellout a do or die game in the playoffs. Joe Johnson should have left when he had the chance.

    The LMA All-Star Snub Tour is coming to an arena near you.

  • Lee

    Blazers had Wallace and Roy on the bench, not bad when you can bring 2 All Stars into the game.

  • Lee

    Also, what about Suns / Rockets and Warriors / Cavs ??

  • http://www.lakernation.com smoove chips

    @ First and foremost.
    It could be just me but JJ doesn’t ooze a burning desire to win. I get the sense that somehow he’s realized he’s gonna be one of those cats that’s nice that never gets a ring like Reggie and Barkley.Also, i think deep down even he knows he got overpaid.Sheeeiiit I wouldn’t leave either.

    @ iCANARKi
    that’s how you spell frustration.I’ve had many a night like that with my lakers.If it makes you feel any better in three or four years this league might be theirs for the taking.

    Oh and R.I.P big man..love how you did that.
    C4 to the door,no beef no more..classic.

  • First & Foremost

    @ Lee – What is stopping Miami from bringing Wade or Lebron or Bosh off the bench? Put Mike MIller in the starting line up and let Lebron or Wade run wild vs another teams second unit. If/When Haslem comes back, move Bosh to the bench.
    1st Unit: Chalmers, Miller, James, Haslem, Big Z. James played 7 seasons with this type of line up.
    2nd Unit: Bibby, Wade, Jones, Bosh, Anthony. What team is deep enough to stop this?
    3rd Unit: Hardaway, Morning, Marino

  • that dude

    @#6 Bruce
    Really, why does this man have to be a monkey.
    It’s 2011 can we leave the racial ignorance back in the day. I’m sure you have something better to do than call people monkeys. Judge a man by his character not his skin.

  • jdizzle

    There was no reaction from the Hawks crowd because Kobe throwing up airballs is nothing new to them, or anybody else for that matter.

    @iCARNACKi lol I was just watching that movie a few days ago!

    @ F&F one guess would be even more media scrutiny. Nothing says the wheels have officially come off and we’ve buckled under the pressure like bringing a 2-time MVP, or a former Finals MVP, or a multiple All Star off the bench. Why not sign AI or Sheed or both? Another gues would be I dont think they’d like being down by 50 at the end of the 1st quarter lol.

  • Stunnaboy2k11

    Funny how beginning of the year people were talking bout the Heats 3 “superstars” and as the year went by people realized Bosh ain’t shit. Can someone please send his ass to the low block? LeBron when are you gonna start posting up?

    Also whats this shit I hear about the Heat hating being everyones enemy? Oh so when you were winning it was cool to be the villain but nooooow? Bitches

    When the Heat bounce from the playoffs I am just gonna replay that parade they did everyday. Yes. We. Did. Yes. We. Did. XD

  • First & Foremost

    Faq da media! This is when you have yet another players only meeting and you ask, “What are we willing to do to win?”
    Juwan Howard – I won’t check into the game
    Lebron – Pass the ball earlier in the shot clock
    Bosh – Take a charge, try to block a shot, post up at least 3 times a game, never go 1 for 18 again.
    Wade – Continue to believe, “This is my house!”
    Arroyo – Come to practice anyway
    House/Jones/Miller – Take and Make more 3’s

  • http://www.dynastybasketball.net sean.dynastybball

    Click my name if you didn’t see Crash Wallace get the impressive block on Mike Miller to end the Heat’s 2 on 1 fast break.

    On a sidenote, that’s an incredibly douchy look for Tyler… where can I get myself some of those sunglasses.

  • That’s What’s Up

    Actually BRUCE is the outright, open racist on this blog. I think a brother had his way with his wife or something.
    If you want the real BRUCE just ask him how he feels about Shaq

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    LMAO @ the suggestion to bring Wade and/or Bosh off the bench. No way in hell that happens.

    I don’t care if you love the Heat, you have to admit either Wade and/or Lebron must have a tiny grain of doubt in their brain whether those two can actually co-exist. It’s painfully obvious to me, they are uncomfortable on the court with eachother.

    Lebron at the Decision: “It’s going to be a lot of fun”

    Having fun yet, jerk?

  • IannyB

    Maybe Phil knew what he was doing when he had Bynum to postpone his knee surgery. Bynum takes a few games out everyyear to attend to his knees,this season he took them at the start, when it would’ve normally have started in February.Here’s hoping he’s healthy for a long post-season run. Go Lakers!!!!

  • WinDelRoj

    The problem with the Miami deal is that they got Bosh. Getting him just handicapped Miami, the absolute best case scenario is a hard cap that would force them to get rid of him.

  • First & Foremost

    I wish the NBA would go to a hard cap salary system. That way no team is better simply because they spent more. To prove you are in the elite class of teams your GMs will need their thinking caps. Kids will stay in college longer because it will be riskier to draft on potential alone.

    True, Lebron or Wade coming off the bench is crazy, but whose 2nd unit could handle that? Just like Odom, Manu, The Jet, Jamal Crawford, Ben Gordon, Brandon Roy right now, and several more players I can’t think of off the top of my head. They can all start on other teams but it is better for them to come off the bench.

    If a boxer throws all of his best punches in the early rounds, he has nothing left at the end of the fight. Then said boxer is known as a fighter who can’t close out in the end of fights, cries when he loses, and only picks on lesser known fighters.

  • sweetv0mit

    One highlight you will definitely be seeing today? In the first half, Wall tracked down Jennings on a break, elevated and smacked Brandon’s layup off the glass – Um, I can’t find the video anywhere! Post the vid when you guys find it please!

  • Claw

    You know the Heat wanted that one and couldn’t get it, and they were just total disarray on offense.

    “We need time to play together” – What BS, they still have no clue what they are doing.

    Nash is just a shadow of himself, what the hell is having a hurt pubic bone?

    Lowry was lights out but Warrick & VC stepped it up and they pulled that one out.

  • QQ

    Is there still something the apologists will try to use for us to think that Miami is a contender?

    I mean seriously, those fools have used every single excuse possible.

    ‘The role players aint performing well’ – Your team has TWO of the 5 best players in the L… AND a power forward widely considered a TOP 20 baller. Fuck that excuse.

    ‘Give them time’ – HAHAHAHAHA. If it’s the start of the season (as many of you fools said), we would’ve waited. But dammit, there’s, what 2 months left in the season? And you STILL can’t beat the top teams? And you’re best players STILL can’t make anything in the clutch? You STILL take we should give them time?

    ‘If the Heat don’t win the chip now, let’s wait one more year.’ – The most pathetic excuse ever. As if you fools weren’t celebrating at the start of the season cause you were SURE Miami will be the champ by June. As if you really think it would take a year for them to gel. As if you weren’t screaming ’73-9′ when you saw those 3 guys sign for the Heat.

    And as if Bosh, Bron and Wade we’re really thinking ‘We’re gonna win in 2012, not now’ when they we’re fucking flexing and posing for the fans in that Miami celebration that feels like a championship parade BEFORE the championship.

    As if yall thinking bout that. Don’t fool yourselves. Fuck the excuses.

  • jzsmoove

    aaahh the revelation of Chris Bosh. I have seen a lot of glimpses when he used to play for T.O. He would get routinely beat by the likes of Al Thornton and Mareese Speights. Get burned by Haslem and Horford. He would have his big game yes, but it was only because he was touted a franchise player thats why he got touches. He got game too but suited to compliment, not a 1 or 1A nor #2 option.

  • D-D-P

    Heat losing streak will be 8 before the catch a W

  • PJ

    wow, no mention of the other games last night? Did dime not stay up or something. Also, apparently, bdiddy’s grandma who raised him and main supporter passed away the other night. RIP. The world needs more caring individuals when others can’t step up to the plate.

  • darko’s doughnuts

    Wall is Wall. Hawks fans are not Hawks fans. Truer words have never been spoken. Thats poetry for you fools…

  • H.A.M.

    That’s because the big 3 have no help.
    I assure you, if the Heat also had:
    Deron Williams, to spread the ball.
    CP3, only to give D Will much needed rest.
    Melo, just to give rest to Wade and Lebron… sixth man.
    Shaq, to eat the opposition.
    Dwight Howard, just to give Shaq and Bosh some much needed rest.
    Blake to give some big depth.
    Steve Kerr to hit 3’s.
    Charles Oakley to be an enforcer.
    Then the Heat could win a championship.

  • http://www.illstate.com Chicagorilla

    “Lesson A) Dont f*k with B.I./thats that. Oh I/thought he was whack. Oh come come now/why yall so dumb now/hunt me or be hunted/i got 357 ways to simmer saute’/im the winner all day/lights get dimmer down biggies hallway/my forte/causes caucasions to say/he sounds demented/cars weed scented/if i said it i meant it/bite my tounge for no one, call me evil/or unbelievable” R.I.P. Big. As for the games last night…boring. But what is with guys like Kenny Smith, Greg Anthony, and even more so Rick Kamla doing on NBAtv talking mad ish about players when Kenny and Greg were complete bustouts in the L and Kamla doesnt look like he’d do damage in a local rec league. At one point a few weeks back Kenny referred to himself as a borderline all star…..WTF! Kenny wouldnt make a CBA allstar team! He was a fluking sidekick. Muthaflukas really coming outside they body as analyst now n days. Even CWebb gets beside himself when making fun of players. Especially since he was HORRID in the clutch his entire career!

  • QQ

    @ chi

    I really don’t understand Kenny’s swagger, either.

    I mean back when he writing articles for SLAM, I tried to remeber what he did in the L for him to warrant a ‘basketball expert’ labe;.

    All I got is ‘serviceable role player’.

    But his swagger says ‘perennual allstar’

    I don’t get that shit.

    Dude rode Hakeem’s heroics to get two rings, and he’s acting like he won the chips for Houston.

  • se7enboy

    did u forget that kobe passed Moses freakin’ Malone for 6th alltime in the scoring list …???

  • Lee

    Give Kenny a little credit, he was a starter on a championship team. He knew to give the ball to the big man, hasn’t that been a complaint in Orlando for years ???

  • Jacqueline Mitchell

    What on earth is happening in Miami? I thought they would have a much better record than what they have now.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    @ smoove chips: “It could be just me but JJ doesn’t ooze a burning desire to win. I get the sense that somehow he’s realized he’s gonna be one of those cats that’s nice that never gets a ring like Reggie and Barkley.”

    Please… don’t EVER compare Joe Johnson’s desire to win with Reggie Miller or Charles Barkley. When did it ever appear that Reggie or Charles mentally checked out of a series? Those guys ran into a man named Michael. Joe Johnson cock-blocks himself. Get it straight

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    @Chi
    “Muthaflukas really coming outside they body as analyst now n days. Even CWebb gets beside himself when making fun of players. Especially since he was HORRID in the clutch his entire career!”
    Whatever homie. You’re a critic too. So am I and neither of us have even been in the league. We can all criticize and mock anyone we want. Fukkit.

  • QQ

    @ 39:

    We’re giving him credit, man.

    The thing is, his swagger doesn’t say ‘championship starter’. It says ‘hall of fame scorer that can talk shit about everything he wants’.

    That’s what’s annoying bout the dude.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    CNNSI is keeping track of the Heat’s record since Lebron made that “I’m refocused, 20+ games left… going to war” tweet.
    http://twitter.com/KingJames/status/43107583577432064

    The Heat are 0-4 since.

    Where’s Sporty-J? Talk shit homie. Let’s hear some more excuses. They keep me entertained. What other excuses do you have up your sleeve?

  • Reno Hightower

    Forget Charlie Sheen, the big 3 in Miami could star in “Two and A Half Men”..

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    You think Kenny Smith is bad, wait until Damon Jones gets a regular TV gig…

    As for the Heat. SETTLE DOWN. Last I checked, they still have a very good record and do have some big wins against good teams (Lakers, Magic). I don’t recall hearing all this “They’re done” talk about L.A. when the Lakers lost to the Cavs and Bobcats back-to-back, so why write off Miami’s season now? At least Miami is losing to good teams.

    Even if this year’s version of the Heat isn’t ready to win a title, did you expect a completely rebuilt team to win it all in Year One? If they could bring together Wade, LeBron and Bosh in one summer, let’s give Riley another summer to see what he can do about the supporting cast. Be patient. The Big Three are still in their 20’s (Jordan didn’t win chip #1 until he was 28) and they have six-year contracts. They don’t have to do it all this year.

  • QQ

    And yeah, as if Austin Burton wouldn’t make a SETTLE DOWN post.

    Sheeeeeesh.

    Now it’s really getting pathetic.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @QQ — Going back to your earlier comment, of course the Heat felt like they were going to win a championship this year. Just like the Lakers, Spurs, Magic, Bulls, Mavs, Thunder, Celtics and every other legit team felt like they were going to win a championship this year. Should they be faulted for that? (And are we talking about the same Miami team who is still ahead of your Magic in the Southeast?)

    You’ve got to identify the difference between an “excuse” and a “reason.” If I say Orlando won’t win a title this year because they don’t have anyone on the front line to help Dwight, that’s not an excuse, it’s a reason.

    It took Jordan, Pippen and Horace Grant four years together to win their first championship. And they had Phil Jackson coaching them. Kobe and Shaq took four years to win their first title, again with a Hall of Fame coach. Even the 2008 Celtics had struggles in their first season — they lost to the Raptors, Wizards, Bobcats, Warriors, and Sixers, they had a couple losing streaks, and they were pushed to 7 games in the playoffs by Atlanta.

    So yeah, settle down.

  • heavy d

    As a Hawks season ticket holder, I was afraid to taunt Kobe. He was already intensely d’ing up Joe Johnson and Marvin Williams (why bother?) at different times. I didn’t want to goad him into focusing on the offensive end. We were trying to hang close enough to make a run. We did make a run (cut it to 6) and Kobe nailed a contested 3 to shut the door for good and that was without taunting.

  • NYK

    i actually do feel bad for Wade and to some degree Bosh. But too bad, let the losses pile up for Bron, and the bandwagon ring chasers that Pat Riley assembled.

    the bench is the problem, they thought they can ride the coattails of the big 3 to a ring. 41-8 are you kidding me? I think the Cavs and Wolves bench plays better.

  • LakeShow84

    Someone put Bynum on ICE and thaw him out when we get to the 2nd round PLEASSSSEEEEE

    And you cant put the blame on Bosh.. he was 9/14 their last stinker and didnt touch the ball in the 4th..

    Its a chemistry issue and its just going through a ugly phase.. id say wins would fix it but people are ACTUALLY paying attention to the quality of opponents now..

    Sucks for South Beach!! lol

    @ Sporty-J

    I will admit your guys’s offense is lightweight fugly lol but id say its because, ONCE AGAIN, Lebron and DWade are the same player.. same talents damn near just ones bigger than the other..

    And when signing Bosh people though “we got 2 of the best perimeter players in the world and a top 5 post player”

    EEEHHHHHHH WRONG

    without his touches hes inclined to score with his biggest strength and thats his J.. no one has EVER called Bosh a banger.. Cant blame him hed probably go 4/12 more than half the time trying to do dirty work in the post..

  • LakeShow84

    And id say they didnt AIR BALLLL Kobe because

    Why make the Mamba come out?????

    it can get real ugly sometimes when dude is playing against an arena..

  • First & Foremost

    Why Yes, Austin, I do expect teams that assemble talented players to compete for a championship and win in year 1 like the Celtics. I do expect having 2 of the best players at their position to make consecutive finals appearances.

    This is a playoff level team playing lottery style basketball.

    Give them another summer to see what they can do about the supporting cast… with what money? They’ll have nearly $50M tied up in 4 players. What quality player will they gain and what will they pay that player with?

    The Lakers, Spurs, Celtics all get passes in the regular season because they have Championships. They all got them pretty early in the time of their cores being assembled. The Heat don’t get a pass because Lebron James is on that team.

    The team is too talented to lose to back to back games against ANYONE. They need to put their egos aside and play team basketball. If you aren’t the most clutch on your team why are you dribbling the game away? This team is making mistakes that should have been corrected a while ago. You don’t need training camp to determine who takes the last shot.

  • QQ

    Don’t even use the Magic sitaution, man.

    The Heat went into the season with over the top expectations, with their over the top celebrations.

    The Magic started the season meh, traded for pieces, were called out by many as a .500 team, started playing well since.

    It’s not like Dwight started the dancing and flashing his goofy smile in the tune of ‘We are the champions’. Remember: PEOPLE ARE CALLING US A 6TH SEED AFTER WE MADE THE TRADES.

    The Heat entered the season with 73-9 in people’s mind.

    Seriously, AB. You are/were a basketball writer. I oughta respect you. Cause the closest thing I’ll ever do to what you’ve accomplished lis comment in a basketball forum under a fake name like QQ. You earn a living writing basketball. I aint even close to what you’re doing.

    But daaaaaaaaaamn. The more you try to ‘protect’ Lebron and the Heat, the more ridiculous you sound. I mean it’s MORE than ridiculous now. Seriously, man. Just saying.

  • Blazermark

    Heat, the media loves you and wants you to win… But give other good teams credit, when they whip your a$$es they whip em good…. Dont be surprised to lose, you are just a team like everyone else. Try not to believe David Stern and the Media, you are just a team. Suck it.

  • Claw

    @Austin – Cmon a High School Kobe and Shaq is being compared to DWade and Lebron? How are the Heat going to build this “team” around those 3, the money is gone all they are going to get is guys that used to be good 5-10 years ago (Juwan 20 years ago) and rookies. Their cap is done and it might even be smaller next year.

    Do I revel in the fact that they are struggling and Lebron is having breakdowns since they proclaimed themselves pre-season champions and the Decision? Hell Yeah!

    Its awesome and anybody see the article on how DWade didn’t think it would be this hard, f*ing hilarious

    http://nbcsports.msnbc.com/id/41960577/ns/sports-nba/

    I’m out like Lebron in Atlanta for not going to a nightclub and getting sued because his boy, Huggie Bear, double booked.

  • Claw

    My bad its Chubbie Baby not Huggy Bear, and no I’m not making the name up.

  • WinDelRoj

    last 3 games Lebron: 27.6PPG 9RPG 7APG 60%Fg

    The fact is this starting line up can score and defend.. in the perimeter. Then they have no bench. Even with these short comings they are 3rd in the East and would either play NY or Philly in the 1st round if the playoffs started today.They may have gotten 1 Bosh too many but the fact is anyone sleeping on this team is being short sighter.

  • WinDelRoj

    sighted*

  • Mt. Pleasant

    AB –

    People were calling the Lakers old and fading when they were slumping before the all star break. Everybody loves to overreact to a midseason slump.

    It looks unlikely, but would anyone really be surprised if the Heat put it together in the 1st round and rolled through the East? Still scares me cause I’m rooting for Celts vs Lakers rubber match.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    I’m not trying to protect the Heat or LeBron, but I think it’s ridiculous that we’re less than one season into the LeBron/Wade/Bosh era and people are jumping to such big conclusions.

    The Celtics are the only team I remember to complete such a massive offseason overhaul and win the championship in Year 1, and even they were fortunate enough to have a few young (and talented) pieces along for the ride like Rondo and Perkins.

    But you look at the 1970s Lakers; they brought in Chamberlain to join Baylor and West in 1968, and didn’t win a title until 1972.
    The Knicks brought in Earl Monroe in 1971 and won the title in 1973.
    The Bulls took a few years with Jordan/Pippen, the Spurs took a couple years with Duncan/Robinson, the Lakers took a couple years with Kobe/Pau …
    History has proven that this is a process, and the 2008 Celtics were the exception. Just because we’re less patient in 2011 doesn’t mean the game is any different. And this League is more talented now than ever, so it’s tougher than ever to win a championship for ANY team.

    Oh, and the playoffs haven’t even started yet. Let’s see how the Heat end up before declaring their season over yet. I recall the Celtics struggling during the regular season in 2010 and still making the Finals. Anybody who wrote them off in March was looking pretty silly come June.

  • LakeShow84

    @ WindeRoj

    27.6PPG 9RPG 7APG 60%Fg

    But like 1-13 on shots under 10 seconds or left

    Like i BEEN saying.. Quit throwing stats when talkin about Lebron..

    Shit Dwade has looked good too.. no one is saying these guys cant play they just cant carry a team against the best in the league.. NO 2 REALLY CAN..

    Lets put it like this if Lebron makes half of his end game shots we aint even talkin about shit cuz those losses turn to wins..

    The problem is some people arent knowing they roles on that team..

    O plus no bench and no post banger on either end.. They’ll get a HUGE boost when they get Haslem back but it shows what the risk of injury can do to that team..

  • First & Foremost

    Fair Enough Mr. Burton

    The difference between the Celtics and Heat is that the Celtics didn’t have parties celebrating their roster. KG was reluctant to go to Boston until they traded for Allen.

    The Heat acted like they already won it all so until they do people can hold them to that standard.
    “You want sympathy, look in the dictionary between shit and syphillis. That’s where you’ll find my sympathy. This ain’t no walk in the park.” – Major Payne

  • LakeShow84

    Somethin else to PILE on while we at it..

    Wasnt Lebron takin notes of all the naysayers???

    LMAO dude has had a rough year.. i feel bad for him on that front..

  • Sporty-j

    You people act like its the Heat fault that ESPN wanted broadcast our party. It was a celebration for the most successful free agent signings in league history. We cant help that China, ESPN, NBC, or whoever wanted to cover our celebration and show it to the world. When you think of Miami, Vegas, and etc. You think of party! Thats what we do down here and there was nothing wrong with what we did. Most NBA fans enjoyed it who do not live in Miami and no 1 was forced to watch it just like you all were not forced to watch Lebrons “Decision”. Its funny how cats want to come on here and all of a sudden have there gay orgies with each because the Heat are losing. Again if you are not the Boston Celtics please calm down just a bit because i bet you none of you will be betting your House, car, girlfriend, boyfriend, $$$ and etc on none of teams we will face in the playoffs rather than the Celtics. I know my Heat signings over the summer rejuvenated every fan base in the NBA, but its not palyoffs yet, even though i see Doc Rivers taking Spoelstra to coaching school 1 o 1 during the 3rd round. Child please ok!!!

  • QQ

    LOL at fools throwing out stats when we’re talking bout the picture here.

    Should’ve used that method a few years back.

    ‘Dwight has no post ga– STATS!!!!!!

    ‘Van Gundy is a sweating, panicking bi- STANDINGS!!!!

    ‘Carter is the most un-clutch assh— STATS!!!!!

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    In a nutshell..
    “The problem is some people arent knowing they roles on that team… They’ll get a HUGE boost when they get Haslem back but it shows what the risk of injury can do to that team..”

    Kudos, lakeshow. Great post. I agree, stats don’t show anything. If it did, the Heat wouldn’t be in a slump. I don’t care what anyone says, regardless of their record, 5 straight by a team with 3 all-stars and arguably the 2 best players on the planet is a slump.

    @AB – With the Heat, it really doesn’t look like the Big 3 gel. You brought up MJ, Scottie, Grant… even though it took them a while, they still complimented eachother. And Michael made 3mill/yr so Krause can sign other guys. How much cap-space does Miami have again?

    Also, Chemistry is a real problem right now. Wade is saying he needs more touches late in games. Bosh is complaining about not getting touches in the post. THAT’s why the basketball world is pointing fingers at the Heat.

    And in one of your posts you said it’s just their first year…. how long did it take the Big 3 in Boston to gel? Chemistry doesn’t take THIS long to build, especially with talent THAT good. They’re going to need Bruce Bowen in point guard form(spot shooter/defensive specialist who doesn’t need the ball), and Samuel Dalembert(athletic/hustle/defensive center) to turn this thing into a championship caliber team. It hasn’t been what they expected.

    They put the cart before the horse when they had that fuckin parade after they signed. All that shit was premature. They deserve this losing streak.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    While the Heat post-signing party was a little extra, like Sporty-J said, that’s how people do things in Miami. Any team would have done something special to commemorate something as big as bringing three All-Stars/superstars together. The only exceptions are the Lakers, Celtics and MAYBE the Knicks because they have such a rich history, but give the Heat some slack; they’re a young franchise and haven’t had as many historic moments.

    Same reason I don’t get on Orlando for “retiring” #6 for The Fans.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    “When you think of Miami, Vegas, and etc. You think of party! Thats what we do down here and there was nothing wrong with what we did.”

    And that’s why those bitches aren’t focused… cuz “party” is what they do. I’m glad they’re enjoying themselves in Miami. If it keep going like this, that was their first and last parade.

  • QQ

    While anyone can see that we retiring number 6 was a MARKETING GIMMICK, give me a break that the Heat parade was just a marketing gaffe, something that the players just did, without them thinking ‘we’re gonna fuck all the other teams in the L’

    Seriously, give me a break.

    Those players believed they will dominate.

    Those players beleived they’re the number one contender for the crown.

    Those players believed it would be a fun to be in a team built unlike a team in recent history: a two time mvp, a top 5 player, and a ‘franchise’ power forward TEAMING UP.

    Don’t even compare it to Orlando’s marketing schtick.

    Those players think they were legit without even giving their team the chance to be legit.

    That’s the bottom line.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @JAY — I don’t think focus is the problem. Again, this is a League full of more talent than ever before, and Miami is losing to talented teams: Chicago, Orlando, Boston, New York, San Antonio, etc. It’s not like they’re losing to the Bobcats and Cavs.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    To complete post #69

    …cuz Stone QQold said sooooo!

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @QQ — You’re right, I’m sure the Miami party was planned and produced by LeBron and Wade, with no involvement from the Heat’s marketing staff. In fact, wasn’t it held in Wade’s backyard?

    Anyway, in the summertime and training camp, almost every player on the Spurs, Lakers, Celtics, Magic, Thunder, Bulls, Hawks and Mavs believes they will dominate. They all think they’re the No. 1 contender for the crown. They all think it will be fun. That’s the kind of confidence pro athletes have. Before Opening Night, every team thinks they’re legit.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    #70 AB
    Fair enough, but they’re losing statement games. What’s their record versus the top teams? Last I checked, you have to beat the good teams in the playoffs. It’s nice they’re beating the Bobcats and Cavs though. I’m happy for them.

  • First & Foremost

    I’d bet if the Heat draw the Knicks in the 1st round it is going to be a wrap. If the series turns out to be Heat/76ers then that might be the string of games to gain momentum for the rest of the May and May only.

    LOL… plenty of teams retire a number for the fans.
    The Seahawks retired #12… for the fans.
    The Atlanta Hawks will NEVER retire a number for the fans.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    AB “They all think it will be fun. That’s the kind of confidence pro athletes have. Before Opening Night, every team thinks they’re legit.”

    ^ ^ ^ Gotta agree with that. The Raps thought they were a playoff team. Lmao. Confidence breeds stupidity sometimes.

  • QQ

    Here’s the deal man.

    If you won’t EVER consider the whole ‘bringing the hate on themselves by doing a ‘championship parade’ before winning a chip’, you won’t ever get us.

    I mean it has been mentioned here by about 5 metaphors now, and you keep ignoring it.

    ‘They put the cart before the horse’

    ‘The Heat acted like they already won it all so until they do people can hold them to that standard.’

    etc.

    Without taking that into consideration, you won’t EVER get us.

    And kinda funny that you brought all those teams up like they all of those teams did a freaking party with all the players acting like movie stars who already won the Oscars without even having a movie deal. haha.

    And to be up to par with your sarcasm, yes, the Heat parade was probably not done by the Heat marketing staff. Most likely, they were done by Lebron’s people (you’re one of them, right?).

    Why?

    Because like all things made by Bron’s posse, it’s all fluff, all hype, all flexing, but ultimately, ALWAYS A LETDOWN.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    I understand WHY so many people hate on the Heat and want to see them fail. I’m just not one of those people. I understand that championship teams are not built overnight, and that how a team is marketed is not necessarily the personality of that team. It’s not Wade’s fault that Flo Rida made a song called “We Already Won.” It’s not Bosh’s fault that the Heat marketing staff wanted to throw a signing party. (Doesn’t pretty much every NBA team have a Draft party?) And it’s not LeBron’s fault that the media/fans were talking about 70-win seasons before he ever did. The Heat did bring some of the hate on themselves, but not all of it.

    @QQ — Do you really consider LeBron’s career a letdown?

  • QQ

    And in Austin’s alternate reality, the freaking HAWKS hosting a parade just like they did in MIAMI:

    ‘And now presenting YOUR ATLANTA HAWKS’

    *Joe Johnson, Horford and Josh Smith flexing, high fiving, smiling like maniacs, in front of the camere*

    ‘Now, you 3 players go around the arena high fiving everyone in attendance, just like what the Big 3 in Miami did!’

    *High fives about 8 people, 2 of them Laker fans*

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @QQ — And really, let’s say the Magic had found enough money to sign Dwyane Wade and Amar’e Stoudemire last summer and put them next to Dwight Howard. If the Magic had thrown a post-signing party at their arena, would you really be the guy running around screaming, “No! Stop celebrating! We haven’t won anything yet! This is wrong!”

  • Diego

    Folks, no loud “air ball” for Kobe last night because the arena was chock full of obnoxious nut-hugging Laker and Kobe fans. Just like the recent N.Y. game, except I’d bet 9 out of 10 of the frontrunning Laker fans there last night had never set foot in L.A. What is even rougher for the loyal Hawks fan (yes, there are always thousands of us actually there) is to listen first to loud “MVP” chants for Amare in Knicks game and then same thing for Kobe in L.A. game.

    But, hey, if folks want to save all there $ to buy inflated tickets to attend for 1 or 2 games a year, so be it–I made some nice change selling my several extra tix to both games.

    But Dime nailed reason why Hawks lost–Horford and Josh just could not handle the 2 big guys and, hell, one time Larry Drew put Hinrich on Kobe and Kobe was just licking his chops scoring every time down the court. Why the hell Drew didn’t start a big line-up or keep Zaza on Pau and Damien Wilkins on Kobe is a mystery–those 2 guys actually played well (best of any Hawks) in the game. Drew’s coaching is looking pretty weak and inconsistent–and I wish the guy showed the same emotion coaching as he did pulling his kid from N.C.

  • QQ

    As I said before, Bron has become so good that without a chip, he would be a letdown.

    I mean, don’t go play your favorite player like he’s Mitch Richmond, who’ll settle for dropping 25 per, saying ‘hey I dropped stats, that’s NOT a letdwon for me’. He’s MUCH MORE than that.

    I’m a freaking NBA fan. The Moment (yes, that’s a capital) I saw Bron destroy the Pistons by HIMSELF. I fell in love with his game. And that’s when he became MUCH MORE than an NBA player. Now, he’s the face of the NBA. Now he’s gonna lead his team to the crown. He’s the REAL Next MJ.

    But seeing the last few years of the douchiness, the un clucth moments, not even reaching the Finals the years he was MVP… THAT’s a Letdown.

    Now seeing that he could win 1 (or 8) chips, it wont stay that way. But so far, IMO, the moment he transcended being just a basketball player, it has been a letdown.

  • QQ

    @ AB:

    No I won’t do that.

    But when we lose 5 straight in March, I’ll just shut the hell up knowing that all that hate was brought upon ourselves by doing a premature celebration.

  • QQ

    Imma out for now.

    Looking forward to seeing the shit talking flow a little later.

    Had fun, guys.

    the Q.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @QQ — You’re in love with LeBron’s game? Could have fooled me. Anyway, I’m never the one to put a bad mark on a guy’s career for not winning a championship, especially when he’s only 25 or 26 years old. If this were golf or tennis or track, that would be one thing. But basketball is a team sport.

  • QQ

    And as always, HIS TEM and NEVER him gets the blame for him not winning a chip so far. HAHA.

    I’m in love with his GAME. He’s a BALLER. Only a fool wouldnt love HIS GAME.

    His off court issues, on the other hand… Only a fool would defend them. Oops.

    Just a little parting shot, cat.

    Im out.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    What are you talking about? LeBron always seems to get the blame. Even when he dominated the 2009 ECF, people blamed him. When he put up a triple-double in Game 6 against Boston last year, they blamed him. Dude puts up like 29-6-4 against the Knicks and everyone blames him because Miami lost.

  • LakeShow84

    I say in the REALITY in which we live, and nothing is finished until its over, NO Lebrons career is NOT a letdown

    In the REAL WORLD in which we live and the media tries to play Nebuchadnezzar and predict futures id say YES his career will be a letdown without a chip..

    Dont forget Lebron was touted as being MAGIC JOHNSON and MICHAEL JORDAN put together.. He’s supposed to DOMINATE every game regardless of opponent..

    So since the media has decided to HEAP the man on our backs and even damn near FIX some NBA awards (almost won DPOY?!?! GTFOH) id say this is the backlash of everyone regurgitating what was force fed down our throats..

    And its f#$kin beautiful to me..

    Honestly if Lebron had NO HYPE i mightve ended up liking him becuase i would accept him for what he is.. With all the hype that even he himself has bought into i call him a douche and bash when i can JUST to speak REALITY..

  • LakeShow84

    Put up a triple double in game 6 and proceeded to walk down the court with under a minute left in the game..

    Once again..

    It doesnt matter how you start it matters how you finish..

    Just sayin AB :)

  • the cynic

    @lakeshow

    I know you’re just speaking in jest when talking about putting Bynum on ice till the second round cause the lakers are going to need him if they draw Memphis in the first round

  • the cynic

    im so sick of listening to the media talk about the heat, and i blame Lebron’s “savvy” self promotion for creating this environment in basketball

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @LakeShow84 — OK, let’s not get into Kobe’s “effort” against Phoenix in the playoffs…

  • Sporty-j

    And to be up to par with your sarcasm, yes, the Heat parade was probably not done by the Heat marketing staff. Most likely, they were done by Lebron’s people (you’re one of them, right?).>>> lmaol, Dam Austin he got you on that 1 homie. You have got to bring th Akron hammer to get him back. You got 10 secs to not throw up a brick like your boy Lebron has been doing for us lately in Miami. The Honey moon is over and we are not use to that s##t in Miami. If the pressure is to much hes needs to pass that s##t to Wade. Dude needs to leave all this partying he is still doing alone(like this party he is suppose to attend in Atlanta that he is supposedly getting sued for) get in a gym to work on his team chemistry with his teammates. He should have got all of his partying out the way in the 1st half of the season and i thought there was an uproar over his tweet the other day when he said he was “focused” because since than we have been 0-4. Dude has yet to add any diff Arsenals to his game since he has come into this league while guys like D.Rose have already added a jumpshot. Lebron needs to go spend this summer with Kobe to work on his low post game, like Wade went to work with Kobe after his 2nd year in the league on his man on man defense but i know Lebrons pride would never let him do that. Just hate to see a guy with so much talent that was suppose to be better than Jordan 1 day settle for so less. You cant just put hard work in a person, hes always been around yes people his whole life, and friends that just want to live off of his wealth. Dude could have so used a Father growing up because a female just cant teach a boy how to be a man…

  • LakeShow84

    LMAO

    Always gotta come back to Kobe..

    It like when a kid gets in trouble he wants to get another kid in trouble..

    But the funny part is..

    Lebron cant touch Kobe anymore.. he’d have to beat him in the Finals and/or add 2-3 rings to his collection..

    Think about this

    People always got on Kobe for requesting a trade out of LA.. His words were “just gimme some weapons to goto war with”

    The next year we trade for Pau and BOOM 3 straight Finals appearances, 2 BACK2BACK championships along with 2 Finals MVPs.. So Kobe held up his end of the bargain RIGHT OFF THE BAT..

    People always got Lebrons back because he just drops so many stats it MUST be his teammates fault they arent winning it all right???

    Well 2 additional AllStars later and Lebron aint any closer than he was in Cleveland.. actually Cleveland was closer go figure..

    Notice the difference?????????

    And everyone can bring up Phoenix, Colorado, Shaq all they want.. Us Laker fans know whats up.. Even if you sided with Shaq back then you’d be a fool to ignore what dude has accomplished through REAL HATE.. not just PUBLIC HATE but MEDIA HATE as well..

  • LakeShow84

    Case in point that SMACK didnt even mention dude passin Moses Malone on the scoring list LMAO

  • LakeShow84

    And just to go back to that Phoenix series..

    Phil said fairly recently that he told Kobe to get his teammates involved in the 2nd half of that game 7.. and id believe that seeing the TEAM approach got us the 3-1 lead..

    Dont forget dude had 15-20 pts in the FIRST HALF..

    But its all about perception am i right??????? Chuck says something that 5-10 other media heads who dont know anymore agreed with and thats the final verdict..

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @LakeShow84 — There you go getting ahead of yourself:

    “The next year we trade for Pau and BOOM 3 straight Finals appearances, 2 BACK2BACK championships along with 2 Finals MVPs. So Kobe held up his end of the bargain RIGHT OFF THE BAT.
    “People always got Lebrons back because he just drops so many stats it MUST be his teammates fault they arent winning it all right???
    “Well 2 additional AllStars later and Lebron aint any closer than he was in Cleveland. Actually Cleveland was closer go figure.”

    The 2011 playoffs haven’t started yet. Nobody was saying “Boom” about the Kobe/Pau Lakers in March 2008. Wait and see how Miami’s season ends up before saying LeBron isn’t any closer to a title. And isn’t Miami 1-0 against the Lakers?

  • Stunnaboy2k11

    Lakeshow, are you really defending Kobe in game 7? Come on bro that was the biggest F U I’ve seen in a while to someones teammates. Shit if Pau doesn’t come people would be piling onto him like they do LeBron now.

    As for the Heat? No excuse, don’t talk shit, launch a parade, have a slogan saying “Yes. We. Did.”, call themselves arguable the greatest trio ever, try to convince the world that Bosh is a top 10 player then proceed to end up 3rd in the East

    When they catch fire one of these years and rip off titles and win streaks I’ll eat a massive amount of crow, until then LeBron needs to tell Wade step off, go HAM, and then step off and let Flash close the game out. Bosh just needs to get 10 boards and 2 blocks/charges a game. This team can still be fixed.

  • http://www.livingcheapla.com hakasan

    @16… that starting 5 with just lebron in the lineup can barely outscore cleveland’s starting 5… although a second unit with wade and bosh should destroy any bench…

    @24… when was bynum ever 100% in the playoffs… let’s just call lazy lazy… imgaine if lakers traded him for howard…

    @45… like many mentioned… when you bring together 3 all stars in their prime… you’re expected to win a la 2008 celts… sure it took jordan a few years to gel with a rookie pip… sure it took shaq a few years to gel with a rookie kobe, sure it took 2 years for robinsin to gel with a rookie duncan… wade/lebron/bosh didn’t come into this situation fresh…

    the 2008 celtics were focused and disciplined all year… not so with the 2011 heat… but i do agree that when you have two players capable of taking over games singlehandedly in lebron and wade, anything can happen in the playoffs… i’m not writing the heats off until they’ve gone fishing… but it sure looks like they made reservations already…

  • http://www.livingcheapla.com hakasan

    oh, and to whomever mentioned that kenny deserves credit for feeding the rock to hakeem… totally agree there… he deserves as much credit as steve smith on the spurs, brian shaw on the lakers, bj armstrong on the bulls…

  • LakeShow84

    Yeah they 1-0 against us LMAO

    But i also saw Orlando go 2-0 against us in the regular season and proceed to get SHALLACKED in the Finals..

    I mean how much does the regular season really matter for the Lakers?? Not much of shit lol

    Now the regular season for the Heat is more serious.. they got a lot to prove.. A LOT to prove..

    We still on cruise control :)

    And there aint nothin to see.. they wont make it past Boston PERIOD.. im going WAAAAYYYY ahead of myself on that one lololol

    And for the record Kobe Bryant would never allow himself to be shut down Rajon Rondo.. Just sayin :)

  • LakeShow84

    @ StunnaBoy

    Biggest F U to your teammates???

    I mean for reals.. thats a stetch lol like i said.. dude did what coach told him to do..

    No one seems to be hearing that part why??? because of perception lol

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    How can the Lakers be on cruise control when Kobe never takes a minute off? I’m getting mixed messages.

  • http://www.livingcheapla.com hakasan

    kobe’s definitely not on cruise control… maybe bynum, artest, and the bench… kobe is definitely doing his best to get his team as easy of a match up for the playoffs or avoid slipping and having to face the top seeds…

  • http://www.livingcheapla.com hakasan

    (character and luke walton definitely on cruise control, btw)

  • Stunnaboy2K11

    @AB its best not to think about it to much, Kobe aint MJ remember

    @Lakeshow
    “Biggest F U to your teammates???

    I mean for reals.. thats a stetch lol like i said.. dude did what coach told him to do..

    No one seems to be hearing that part why??? because of perception lol”

    No one gets it cuz its not what they want to hear, same way people still rip on LeBron for not winning a chip when his best sidekick has been Mo Williams and him routinely dominating the shit out of games.

    Its best to ignore most of my Kobe jabs, its mostly just anger from our game 7 loss haha. I have all the love for him, specially in his Frobe days. Just hopes he retires like right now.

    And you just watch as Rondo defends the fuck out of Kobe in the Finals ;)

  • LakeShow84

    Or your thinking too hard lol

  • UncheckedAggression

    Never in my life would I have expected such crazy, broad statements made about the Heat due to their struggles. So many ridiculous arguments that aren’t even worthy of a response.

    First of all, most of what I remember at the start of the season is that it would be at least a year before they really had a chance. I have been a Miami supporter, but before the season started I had the Lakers and Celtics above the Heat. In fact, I was surprised when they went on that winning streak. The team has some good pieces but are severely flawed. The offense has looked like shit all year while the defense, while somewhat inconsistent, has been pretty good. Remember when some of you morons were applauding Spoelstra’s choice to let them do whatever they want on offense if they get a defensive rebound? Doesn’t look like such a good strategy any more, does it? They need to get their shit together on offense, period. If Bosh won’t go inside then I don’t see them winning a playoff series against a really good team.

    Having said that, of course this Heat team needs time. Claiming that they’ve had enough time just shows either a lack of basketball knowledge or the level of dislike you have for the Heat. I suspect both of those things are at play when it comes to the majority of commenters lately.

    And by the way–the Heat still have the potential to be a major player in the playoffs this year. Write them off right now if you want, but it still doesn’t mean shit. They play D, which means more in the playoffs than it does in the regular season.

    QQ-You have such a complex about the Magic and it’s hilarious to see get played out day after day. You’re a lunatic. It’s like you’ve convinced yourself that everyone believed the Magic were a terrible team and every win is validation that they were wrong. I never heard a single person say that team was gonna be .500. In fact, all I ever heard was that they were still a top 3 EC team. I certainly put them up there. Shit, they’re a really good team! But I sure as hell don’t consider them contenders. Because they aren’t. They rely way too much on 3s, which will ALWAYS come back to bite them.

  • LakeShow84

    @ StunnaBoy

    I think when your team wins 60+ games TWICE id say its fair game to get ripped for not making the Finals EITHER YEAR..

    Gimme a record of how many teams not named the Mavericks had 60 win seasons and DIDNT make the NBA Finals..

    once again..

    Just sayin :)

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @LakeShow84 — The 1998 Lakers were one of those teams. And the 1990 Lakers. And the 1986 Lakers.

  • LakeShow84

    ^^^ Asshole ^^^

    lmao

  • LakeShow84

    That was a rhetorical question!!! lmao

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    It’s cool. The Sonics have a couple 60-win, no-Finals teams too.

  • Stunnaboy2K11

    Game, set match AB haha

  • Stunnaboy2k11

    Btw anyone else the the St Johns Rutgers game? WTF was that it was like the refs had Bo intrest in ending that game at all.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    @Stunnaboy2k11 — No, what happened?

  • LakeShow84

    Hows that game set match cuz he answered ONE of my questions lol

    AB knows he cant spar with me on Lebron i almost turned him to our side back in the day lol then he had to go ghost for a bit and recuperate.. Real life story lmao

    Honestly its funner havin you in the comment section AB..

  • Stunnaboy2K11

    Answering a rhetorical questions like that was a pretty boss move though

    http://newyork.sbnation.com/2011/3/9/2040599/big-east-tournament-2011-st-johns-rutgers-tim-higgins-jim-burr-referee-controversy

    Basically the refs missed THREE calls on St John fouls, then at the end of the game a St John player takes three steps, goes out of bounds with 1.7 seconds left and chucks the ball into the crowd with .5 left and the refs call game over. My friends a Rutgers fan and was FURIOUS. Not a good look for the Big eats tourney

  • Stunnaboy2K11

    Also a game ending 65-63 with the Over/Under being 128.5 kiiiiiiiinda sets of some suspicion with the way it ended

  • Mt. Pleasant

    Second lakeshow, I like AB in the comments section.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    After G’town got mopped by UConn, I lost interest in the Big East tourney. The Hoyas still have to get into the Big Dance at 21-10, but they ended the season on a bad run and they’re probably not going to go anywhere without Chris Wright. Whatever. Pac-10 Tournament starts today…

  • the cynic

    I have a question to people who say the heat need to develop chemistry, didn’t four of the guys on this team (miller, bron, wade, and bosh) play together internationally for about 4 years? Is team chemistry really going to get that much better in year 2, 3, or 4?

  • LakeShow84

    ^^^^ Good point ^^^^

  • QQ

    @ 107:

    Just go back at the comments section when we traded for the Arenas, and see for yourself the hate.

    And in the first place, I’m arguing bout the Heat’s struggle lately, yet people keep bringing up the Magic, just because I’m a Mgic fan. LOL.

    It’s like I’m talking bout the reality here, then someone will bring up ‘what if they signed Amare and Wade’?

    I’m like WTF, I am talking bout a real 5 game losing streak, a real struggle in the clutch for the Heat, and you’ll talk about fantasy situations bout my team?

    No doubt the flow about my comments on my team will be disjointed.

    You keep inserting my team (FANTASY or otherwise) into a Heat argument that NOTHING TO DO WITH MY TEAM.

  • http://www.curtpalme.com/forum/files/you_re_a_homo_767.jpg JAY

    cynic: “I have a question to people who say the heat need to develop chemistry, didn’t four of the guys on this team (miller, bron, wade, and bosh) play together internationally for about 4 years? Is team chemistry really going to get that much better in year 2, 3, or 4?”

    ^ ^ ^ Best post of this whole thread.
    Just to add to it… they’re all friends off the court too. Wouldn’t friends who’ve played together before have gelled by now?? I guess we’re all just waiting for the magical moment when everything just clicks.

    Another question: When was the last time a championship team’s 2 best players had similar games and operated in the same space. IMO, that’s why they aren’t beating the good teams. Wade and Lebron’s spots on the court are pretty much exactly the same. You could say thing about Bosh’s game too. There’s no spacing. Then if you look at their top 2 productive bench players and they play the same positions as Wade and Lebron. How much cap space do they have again?

  • Alee-Mo

    Team USA is an entirely different setting than the NBA. Doesn’t matter if Wade, LeBron and Bosh were together for a few weeks here and there; that’s like saying Iverson and Rip Hamilton should have had instant chemistry because they were in some All-Star Games together.

  • the cynic

    A few weeks here and there? Why don’t you look into the Team USA organization and the amount of PRACTICE time before you compare to a no defense all-star game. I’m not even including the other 2 years they spent traveling together talking basketball when they were sitting on the bench for team USA