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Philly Stands Up to LeBron, Carmelo and Chris Paul; Preview the Next Dream Team

Chris Sheridan wrote a story a few days back talking about Team USA and who will make up the 2012 roster. Sheridan, the former ESPN writer, said that Blake Griffin and Kevin Durant, two players not on the 2008 “Redeem Team,” both have spots on the 2012 team. Sheridan described his sources as “people in the know.” Both players deserve to be on the team. Griffin will prove elite athleticism at the power forward position, as well as the ability to guard multiple positions, a skill vital to succeeding on defense in the European game. Durant – he just scores a lot, and figures to have some fun getting open looks from the closer three-point line. Sheridan went on to list Dwight Howard, Chris Bosh, LeBron, ‘Melo, Wade, Kobe, CP3 and Deron Williams as the other “most-likelys.” What do you think? Is that a roster we can win the Olympics with? Is it better than the “Redeem Team?” Add Derrick Rose to that list and we think so … Carmelo Anthony is considered one of our very best International players, but with the Knick, LeBron and KD around, one of them will have to come off the bench (and form a ridiculous second-team partnership with D-Wade). Our guess is the vets get first dibs at starting (for now) … Speaking of All-Star squads, the group led by LeBron James, Carmelo Anthony and Chris Paul (known as Team Melo) were beat (and nearly got run out of the gym) 131-122 in the “Battle of I-95″ by a squad from Philadelphia that included Lou Williams, Kyle Lowry, Tyreke Evans, Jason Thompson and Hakim Warrick. Surprised? You shouldn’t be. The Philly dudes weren’t messing around, the game was played in one of those old, classical gyms with no AC (The historic Palestra… Team Melo wasn’t very deep) and of course, it’s not a Philly game unless the crowd serenades everyone (especially ‘Bron) with boos. LeBron, who went off with 43 points and 23 boards, and ‘Melo (31 & 17) did their part, but keeping up with the speedy Philly guards just wasn’t going to work. Lowry continued his overlooked beast of a summer with 34 points while Williams had 31. Evans went for 18 and 18 boards while Warrick had 19 & 12 as Philadelphia jumped out 22-6 to start … Afterwards, Warrick laid down the gauntlet with a bold statement, calling Philadelphia the new “champs” of summer basketball. We’ll give him the day to shine considering his homegrown squad beat a team with three of the best players in the world. But aren’t we still saying it’s Goodman that is the best summer team out there? They beat an Indy Pro-Am team this weekend 170-167 as John Wall had a triple-double (41 points, 12 assists & 11 rebounds). We wonder what Jameer Nelson has to say about this after telling us Philly needs to do a better job with it’s city leagues … And we all know that players aren’t taking these summer league/celebrity games all that serious at times, that the end result isn’t at all what matters. But what happened in the Kansas alumni game is just way too ridiculous. Paul Pierce dropped 22 points, but when Mario Chalmers banged a three with 0.1 seconds left, the game ended in a 111 tie. We need an explanation … We’re out like ties.

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38 Responses to “Philly Stands Up to LeBron, Carmelo and Chris Paul; Preview the Next Dream Team”

  1. beiber newz says:

    ahhahahaha hakim warrick. who was it that was going at my head shitting on him? not that this game means anything. just saying.

  2. beiber newz says:

    oh yea…………..it was first and foremost.
    for my dime comment boys, enjoy some fine eye candy (only for those who can handle the sight of attractive women, parental advisory)

    http://cdn.rtny.uproxx.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/09/a82-e1316912949937.jpg

    She just started to pop it for a nigga and look back and told me “baby, it’s real”
    And I say I ain’t doubt you for a second I squeeze it and I can tell how it feel
    -drizzy

  3. beiber newz says:

    EXCERPT—
    “… If you’re Cleveland, are you throwing Irving right into the mix as the starter right away?”

    This kind of phrasing of the question kind of sways people to say NO as an answer. Using the word THROWING and phrases RIGHT INTO and RIGHT AWAY sounds borderline negative. If one were to read in between the lines it would look like a completely different question.

    Translation kind of sounds like this:
    … If you’re Cleveland, are you HASTILY DEPLOYING (throwing) Irving IMPATIENTLY (right into) into a pressurized starting point guard role (the mix) SIGNIFICANTLY EARLY (right away)?

    Now how do y’all answer this question? Hmmmm..

    ALSO** IF YOUR INTERESTED IN KILLING ABOUT 15 MINUTES OF TIME, CUZ YOU WON’T GET THIS TIME BACK, WATCH THIS CHICK GO OFF ON KYRIE IRVING. APPARENTLY, SHE IS VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY VERY ANGRY.

    Threatens To Sue & Harm KYRIE IRVING and Friends.
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iIaJyXN1O_8

  4. First & Foremost says:

    LOL… In a game where 253 points were scored and we debated over the scoring prowess of Hakim Warrick, who only had 19. Yes he won the game but the “argument” was about whether or not Hakim is a scorer. For a game that had like 400 possessions, 19 points ain’t much. If I had to guess how he scored, caught a few back door lobs, tip ins, and occassional run out.

  5. K Dizzle says:

    Props to the Philly team for representin. Dudes were serious out there. Kyle Lowry is a beast n I don’t know how anybody gonna stop Tyreke when he puts it all together. Too strong. Too quick. Deadly combination.

    I love Blake Griffin’s game and Bosh is a solid backup….but hearin that those two should be on the squad lets me know just how underappreciated Lamarcus Aldridge is. Dude would kill internationally…

  6. Chicagorilla says:

    @KDizzle

    I agree that LMA should easily get a spot on that team along with Kevin Love. Love has the ability to reb better than anyone in the NBA and step out to the 3pt line. LMA is close to that same type of player.
    Blake Griffin is great, but those two are well ahead of him at this point.

    And saying that the MvP (Rose) isnt on the team kinda discredits the source.

    @the Kyrie vid

    That shit is sad that these female groupies keep doing that shit. You don’t see male groupies pulling that shit on the WNBA players or entertainers.

  7. abpin says:

    I don’t think Blake should be on the team just yet. His game is purely athletic at this point, but once he cleans up and gets better, he’ll definitely be a lock. If they say he’s a lock NOW, I’m sure it’s basically popularity and for fans to go ooh & ahh.

    I’d say, with a 12-man roster…
    Starting:
    5-Dwight Howard (Not really a question.)
    4-Kevin Love (Fit well with the Redeem Team. Rebounder & Intangibles.)
    3-Melo (Straight Scorer.)
    2-Kobe (“Veteran Role”. Always a threat.)
    1-CP3 (Experienced PG.)

    Bench:
    5-Bosh/LMA (Both can be a 4 or 5 & mix well with any lineup.)
    4-Lebron (Versatile, facilitator & scorer if necessary.)
    3-Durant (Straight Scorer.)
    2-Wade (Everything.)
    1-D.Rose/Deron Williams (Rose off the bench because of lack of international play. But I’m sure he’ll start a few games anyway because he can do everything. & D.Will is a solid PG with international experience like CP3, maybe more so now that he’s playing in Turkey.)

  8. Otto says:

    Her name is Miss Hawaii but she’s reppin NY hard. I’m confused. Is she suffering from the LeBron Complex?

  9. the truth says:

    I’m sorry, i love d rose but i just don’t see him gettin much clock over cp3 and d will. anyone agree?

  10. First & Foremost says:

    @The Truth – I don’t think CP3 will follow through and play in the Olympics. If Derrick Rose continues to improve while Paul has some knee problem, he might sit out all together.

    If all 3 do make the team, I agree with you, Rose seems the most likely to take the backseat and just learn. Deron will play his, “I’ve actually played a season over here, have you?” card to get playing time. Chris Paul has the buddy system going for him.
    ———-

    I’d like to see LMA make the team but I doubt it happens. Other PF’s are ahead of him for one reason or another.

  11. Chicagorilla says:

    @abpin

    I wouldn’t say Blake is all athleticism. His phenominal athleticism kinda over shadows his other abilities like passing and ball handling for a 6’10 guy. Plus he is a very good rebounder, when was the last time a rookie grabbed that many rebs per game, Shaq in 92′? or Duncan in 97′?
    But as far as international play goes, why would anyone chose Lebron? He is great for NBA rules, but the FIBA rules kinda work against his strengths. So i doubt the NBA will chose the 2012 team based on FIBA ability.

    The way i see the team is as follows

    PG – CP3, Rose, DWill
    SG – Wade
    SF – Durant, Melo
    PF – LBJ, B. Griffin, Bosh
    C – Dwight, K. Love

    As far as Kobe, I don’t think he will be playing in 2012. He is getting older and may want to rest. I see Rose and Dwilliams spending time as the back up SG since FIBA guards are all small anyway. I don’t know of another SG that would be healthy enough or good enough to take minutes from them.

    - Brandon Roy, but his health is too bad.
    - Tyreke Evans could go but he would have to make a huge leap this year.
    - Steph Curry played well but unless he changes teams (ORL anyone?) i don’t see him being in the spotlight enough to make this loaded team, but they do need his shooting badly
    - Rondo….um hell no
    - Rookies…..I don’t see a Christian Latener type making the team. Just won’t happen. Unless Harrison Barnes is all of a sudden a monster.

  12. Chicagorilla says:

    @FnF and Truth

    As you can see in my previous post. I don’t think the 2012 team USA will have Kobe. And I can also see CP3 not playing due to needing rest. If that Happens then DWilliams is the only one playing ahead of Rose.
    The problem really seems to be that they won’t have enough guys who will be able to take a backseat and still perform when its time.

    Guys like Jason Kidd, Mike Miller, and Tayshun Prince were able to just do their jobs and play their games in a small amount of minutes. If KLove, Griffin, Rose, and Durant can all humble themselves enough to just play a role, this team could be even better than 2012 and possibly the 2nd best USA team behind DT1.

  13. dagwaller says:

    I think that someone’s ego is going to end up hurt.

    A point to which a few you have alluded is that the superstar mentality doesn’t necessarily work for this team, nor does it work for these rules.

    So unless a couple of these guys check their ego at the door, they’re not going to get much PT or even make the team at all!

    Last time around, I was excited that we had the second tier stars like AI2 stepping up and doing the best they could at their jobs. I doubt it was a coincidence: most would give props to Coach K.

    In sum, if the U.S. has 12 spots but 15 superstars, who gets cut? And will it be 12 superstars, or will Coach K (who doesn’t ever have to see these guys again after the Olympics, really) choose “elite talent for a role” (role player) instead of “elite player” (superstar).

  14. dagwaller says:

    I guess what I’m trying to say is, “If we agree that sub-superstar players such as LMA or Love would be good for the team, can we afford to cut guys like Blake Griffin or Derrick Rose simply because their (superstar) skillsets don’t fit on this team?”

  15. beiber newz says:

    first and foremost,

    i just want to say first and foremost (pun intended) that i wasn’t mentioning hakim warricks philly game stats as something to point out. it was more of me reminiscing of me and f&f going back and forth about some guy who isn’t even an nba starter. i wasn’t tryna boast or anything, just bringing up an old discussion we had about him as a player. but to be fair f&f, 19 point and 12 rebounds shows activeness at least, and it’s nuthin to sneeze at. but i just wanted to be clear f&f that when i brought it up, it was just trying to get you to remember our discussion, no foul play on my part. i fux with u dude.

  16. Big Island says:

    I don’t feel bad for dudes who get caught up in drama with the groupies and crap like that. I love a little attitude in a woman, love a strong woman, but then there’s that obnoxious/delusional line, and this chick is WAY across that. How could you think you could hit that and not get any drama? If you don’t know how to stay away from chicks like that by the time you get into the league, you deserve everything you get.

    For me, and I might get some crap for this, I wouldn’t take Dwight to the Olympics. Swap him out for LMA. You’ve got your inside guys of Love, Griffin, and Aldridge. Then CP3 as your point with DWIll backing him up. Kobe, Durant, Melo, Wade. Lebron will be there. That’s 10 right there with size, rebounding, athleticism, scoring. Your big guys can step out and shoot the 3, Griffin is too quick going to the basket, Melo is built for international stuff. Wade, CP, Durant, Melo, Lebron = running. Go big with Aldridge, Griffin, Love, Lebron, Durant. Any combination of guys you put out there is big, fast, can score, and flexible as far as playing all over the floor.

  17. beiber newz says:

    @chicagorrilla,

    hahahhah, i dont think males do that for the wnba cuz the stigma has it that most of them broads are dykes. i DON’T hold that premise, but others are widely regarded to feel that way about women ball players. but imagine if wnba females were AALLLLLLLLL DIMES? can u see yourself going to at least 1 game if that were the case? or could u imagine if all wnba females were sexy as hell, and then would u try to sneak to their hotel especially if one of the females winked at u during their game while u were in the stands watching their boobies and ass bounce and skin glisten with attractive moistness?

    something hilarious i just discovered. EVEN COMPUTERS DON’T RESPECT women’s basketball. if you type WNBA, they fucking correct you to write NBA instead. lmfao. funny shit.

  18. beiber newz says:

    OTTO

    i was wondering the same thing. LOL sounds like she’s going though an identity crisis! would you have sex with her tho?

  19. beiber newz says:

    BIG ISLAND

    “How could you think you could hit that and not get any drama? If you don’t know how to stay away from chicks like that by the time you get into the league, you deserve everything you get.”

    I think you just summed it up perfectly. That’s the exact reason the NBA started a class for rookies to assist and prepare rookies for making a smooth and educated transition into the league. Sadly though, if you remember, due to the lockout, the NBA cancelled this Rookie Transition Program (RTP). The key message of the program was to help rookies understand their lives will change as they come into money and notoriety…people. The program teaches them how to deal with these things.

  20. beiber newz says:

    look at this bulls #23 guy planking http://www.tumblr.com/photo/1280/10677743397/1/tumblr_ls43zxkohQ1qdi785

  21. Chicagorilla says:

    @B-News

    I remember someone mentioned that google search thing on the WNBA a while ago lol. It is what it is though.

    For me, I love basketball so much that i watch anyone playing. So while you guys are tripping over the lockout, Im tuning in to watch WNBA MvP Tameka Catchings and the Fever play against Angel McCaughtry and the ATL Dream. Or even better Minny’s Simone Augustus and Mya Moore take on PHX’s Dian Turasi and Dwanna Bonner. These WNBA playoff games have actually been some of the best WNBA games ive ever seen and some of the best basketball ive seen.

    And yes I think a few of them are sexy as hell, but I like tall women lol. Mya Moore (6’0), Candace Parker (6’5), Candice Wiggins (5’9),Kristy Toliver (5’7) Liz Cambage (6’8),Skylar Diggins (5’9) and Lauren Jackson (6’6) are all sexy as fluck to me. I would be a WNBA groupie and i’d defintely keep my mouth shut lol.

  22. beiber newz says:

    also….if u want lockout hope, Maurice Evans (nbpa vice president) believes there will be basketball sometime between November and January.

  23. Chicagorilla says:

    @Big Is

    Did you not see Dwight dominating in the Olympics. As a matter of fact, did you not see all of the true bigs the NBA has sent over dominate? Ewing, DRob, Shaq, Hakeem, Kemp, Duncan, Amare, Dwight.

    Plus lets not forget about guys like Pau and Marc Gasol, Nene, Greeces baby shaq, and Kris Kaman who would destroy team USA if Dwight wasn’t in the middle blocking shots.
    LMA, Griff and Love are nice, but Dwight is better than all of them at being a center.
    The thing that team USA doesn’t need/want to do is try to emulate the foreign teams. We don’t have to have a team full of bigs who shoot 3s or a team full of guards who are all shooters but cant drive. We just need players who are willing to work together, are smart, and are skilled enough to work within a system.
    Speaking of which, Coach K sucks balls and doesn’t need to be coaching that team anymore. sure he coached the team that won gold, but they never really looked good on offense. They were just playing phenominal defense.

  24. Chicagorilla says:

    @DIME

    Can we get something on the best assist of all time. Here is one i found on youtube but it isn’t even close.

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-AW6hT8fnY&feature=related

    Magics pass at number is fucking sick though. Especially the finish by B.Scott.

    Also the around the back lead pass by Isiah vs the Bulls looked like it was magically done.

    Bird also has a pass where he takes a dribble then as the ball is coming up he slaps it to McHale for the dunk. As a kid we tried emulating that pass on the playground over and over. Only to realize just how difficult it was.

  25. Cal says:

    Look, Baron can still absolutely light it up. However, he’s a short, shoot first, scoring guard. What’s the last team to make it to the finals with a guy under 6’4 as their leading scorer? The 76ers in 01, led by AI in his prime. Baron won’t get you wins and you can argue he’ll turn Kyrie into a shoot first subpar mini star who never wins. Trade BD.

    http://www.theyoungandthebold.com

  26. JAY says:

    @Big Isl
    I see your logic in sending LMA over Howard, but they need a defensive big to single-cover any other big who might have otherwise had a good interior scoring night. Bosh and LMA are too similar. Personally, I would take LMA over Bosh… but’s that’s just me.

  27. Chicagorilla says:

    @Jay

    The only reason i would take LMA over Bosh is because Ive already witnessed how Bosh plays with superstars and he isn’t very useful at playing his role. He’s not terrible but he isn’t great like a James Worthy or Kevin McHale at playing 2nd/3rd fiddle. So I’d like to give LMA a try at that. Plus he’s bigger and a stronger player underneath the basket.

    Here is one of my favorite youtube videos. MJ before he got to the NBA. I’ve been following MJ since playing in the back alleys of Chicago shooting and dunking on milk crates with the bottom cut out, and I still have never seen most of these highlights. Kinda refreshing actually. And shows the greatness of MJ vs anyone else

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=U9myzmzmTSM&list=PL9D86F7781D59F84A#!

  28. First & Foremost says:

    @Beiber – No harm no foul.

    The WNBA is nice. Different but still nice. The CFL isn’t the NFL but you still have nice plays & highlights.

    2012 Team – Because of what Lebron could do and the versatility he offers, you have to bring him along. If Kobe wants to play, you can’t deny him a roster spot. You can hold tryouts and hope he hurts himself but those 2 will make the team, if they want to.
    Dwight-Love-Blake-Lebron does it matter what other big you bring? Mcgee possibly. Monroe only if Dwight is shooting a movie.

  29. JAY says:

    @Chi
    “The only reason i would take LMA over Bosh…”
    ^ I don’t think you’ll find someone who disagrees with your assessment. Both of them have shown their worth as the main guy, and a complimentary piece. IMO, LMA is better in both roles.

  30. First & Foremost says:

    I still think a 2nd teir Team USA roster would be better. Gold would still be expected of them but they wouldn’t be complacent as a team that swept the world, the last time out. Also it gives the guys who are on the verge of being superstars, a valuable experience to motivate their growth in the NBA.

    We see Lebron and Kobe year-round. They might be the only players that matter but they aren’t the only players. Team USA is a player development program that just so happens to participate in World competitions. How much more are you developing a 25+ scorer/7X 1st Team/ 6X All-Star/ Max player?

    Look at all the guys from last year’s team, most had a breakout year. Continue that trend! Bolster the middle teir of the league so that all these franchises losing money can at least market a World Champion on their rosters. Revive a dying franchise like Detroit by sending Monroe and Daye. If Nola still had Marcus Thorton or Collison, send one of them. Then the league has some selling point to unload that franchise on some rich guy who doesn’t really know basketball. [Oh well for that team]. have someone from the Bobcats go. I couldn’t tell you who to send though.

    The world knows they can’t F with America’s best. Team USA needs to show some arrogance and send a less than stellar team. 1972 will NOT happen again.

  31. jdizzle says:

    Rose’s ego won’t be a problem. I just read his interview in SLAM(am I allowed to say SLAM on this site?) and he said he’s not expecting to be on the Olympic team but wondering if he will even make it so him having a lesser role on the team will be good enough for him.

    As far as that crazy bitch in the video I saw that a few months ago. For some reason she thinks having a bunch of Twitter followers is important SMH…nice rack tho lol. As far as WNBA players having male groupies the only incident that comes to mind is when Leon Smith went nuts over Cappie Pondexter(even tho she wasn’t in the league at the time).

    @Chicagorilla you don’t fuck with Marissa Coleman from the Mystics?

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  32. Big Island says:

    @ dudes who like Dwight Howard

    I don’t hate on Dwight Howard at all. It’s just the Olympic game doesn’t suit true centers that well (wide lane, bs calls, ball movement, other countries having big guys who play on the perimeter). I mean Shaq, in his prime, got 9 and 5 a game. I like Dwight, and he is hands down the best center in the world right now. But he is terrible at 1)shooting free throws, and 2)passing out of double teams. I also feel like bringing LMA, Love and Griffin gives you size on both ends, with guys who can still overpower (maybe not Love) their guy in the post, spread the floor, and pass better. I know Dwight will go. I just think you could go without him and be just fine, if not better, in the Olympics. In the NBA, gimme Dwight over all three of those guys.

  33. Chicagorilla says:

    @jdizzle

    Yeh I just bought that slam mag too. I don’t really like their articles on DRose, could just be me nitpicking though. I just feel some weird bias when they write articles on him. Rose will have no problem mentally coming off the bench or playing his role, but i don’t know if his game will remain the same without being able to take as many shots or handle the ball as much. Its the same reason that a lot of people didn’t want Lebron or Wade in Chicago, because they would take the ball out of Rose’s hands too often. And unfortunately, Rose (like Wade, Bron, Melo, and some other big names) is still at the stage in his Bball IQ where he needs the ball to be effective on the court. Although i was very impressed by his defense during FIBA play in 2010.

    ANd oh yes, I fucks with Marissa Coleman. She is a former Terp, played with Tolliver. Yeh she can get it lol.

  34. Chicagorilla says:

    @Big Is

    They are going away from the trapaziod lane, and FIBA play is more physical than NBA play right now. Why not bring the biggest physical prescence in the NBA. Plus you can not forget his shot blocking ability.
    LMA would fill in just fine, but he tends to float away from the basket too much to be a 5 man. And there is no way KLove or Griffin is checking Nene, Kaman, or the Gasol brothers one on one. Dwight will shut every one of them DOWN.
    I don’t like Dwights lack of skill or IQ in FIBA play, but Team USA doesn’t need or have to play FIBA style ball. All they have to do is hit jumpshots and play lockdown perimeter defense. Howards got everything else handled.

    @FnF
    Ok, if you want a 2nd tier team, who exactly do you think should be on that 12 man roster? I would say send new blood but you have to have one or two stars or soon to be superstars. But i would only do that every four years. Whichever players played in the qualifying games should have first dibbs play in the upcoming olympics barring injury. You can’t really take the opportunity away from guys like Rose, Durant, and Love to win a gold medal in the olympics. Its not something that comes around that often and a lot of players want to have a gold medal.

  35. beiber newz says:

    i dnt even think Aldridge can over power bigs in the paint. he’s not a banger. but he still good for how he plays. he is basically an all star in waiting…for the next all star game.

  36. JAY says:

    I cosign almost everything Big I said, but the only problem if they don’t include Howard is……. all their bigs who can play center are too similar. They pretty much need Howard because he’s the changeup. There are bigs from other countries (Bogut, Gasols, Kaman, Nene) who can kill Bosh… who can kill Aldridge… Howard is the dude who can effectively damper any scoring streak just by putting him in the game. Howard will defend his position by himself… Bosh/Aldridge/Griffin can’t. And opponents will have to double-down on Howard, but might not have to on Aldridge, Bosh or Griff.

    I’m not exactly a pro-Howard dude… I’m more a non-Bosh guy. If I were selecting the players I would take Howard, Griff, and Aldridge. Bosh would be staying in Miami.

  37. JAY says:

    And sorry to get too far ahead… but I’m hoping for a Spain/US final.
    We could potentially see a Marc/Pau vs Howard/Griffin frontcourt matchup. Brains vs Brawn. That would be fun to watch.

  38. beiber newz says:

    but hey, look, i’m not here to change your mind. i’m here just stating the facts so rondo doesn’t go under-appreciated. a lot of ppl do that. funny thing is, i’m a lakers fan, sticking up for a C’s player. go figure. shows that i don’t like people not getting their due credit.

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