Who’s Better: Magic Johnson Or Oscar Robertson?
PLAYOFF SUCCESS
The sample is misleading because Magic played with other all-time greats and Robertson only had a few seasons with another player of his caliber. In Cincinnati, Robertson led a “b squad” to the playoffs year after year until he eventually landed in Milwaukee with Kareem Abdul-Jabbar.
With the help of Jabbar, Robertson was able to amass almost all of his playoff success in a four-year window. In that window, he went 30-7 in the playoffs, won the ’70-71 NBA championship and lost another just three years later in ’73-74. Robertson was no slouch in the playoffs, averaging 22.2 PPG, 8.9 APG and 6.7 RPG in his 86 games played.
Ironically Magic found success with the same giant as Robertson did – Jabbar – in the playoffs. It was under different circumstances as Magic was drafted to a Laker team that already had Jabbar as an established superstar. Once in the playoffs, Magic had a nearly flawless record (as seen in the chart above). In his career, the season ended in the NBA Finals 8 out of 13 (full) seasons.
Magic has an astronomical edge in playoff success and has played in six more Finals than Robertson over his career. If you switch the player’s jerseys the story may have been different, but this is the way it was written.
Edge: Magic
HISTORICAL EFFECT
These players proved that a “generational talent” is more than an overused clichĂ©. In the ’60s and early ’70s, Robertson was a talent never seen before and played a style that was not common. He was a big guard that could score and rebound the ball. Traditionally guards played within the offense and distributed. The way he played created a ripple effect that was felt again in the ’80s.
That next ripple was Magic, who was a bit bigger and a bit more dynamic, but was the evolution of what Robertson started. He was more unique in the aspect that he could play five positions with regularity and did it well. On any given night Magic was the square peg that could fit in the square, circle, triangle, rectangle and diamond holes.
This proves further the equality of the players as Robertson was the original model that was modified and perfected with Magic.
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THE VERDICT
Both players made the triple-double an important statistic and proved a point guard can be as dynamic as any position on the court. Both go down in history as two of the greatest players to ever play the game, let alone the point guard position. Neither was more important than the other, but they were equally important in the growth of players after them. Down the road players such as Jason Kidd, LeBron James and others were relevant because they were not restricted to a positional definition. Even Magic could have been held back to a square peg in a square hole if Robertson did not break the mold.
1-1-2 TIE
They were definitely two of the best ever. They were both revolutionary and true generational talents. Is one better than the other? It depends on your preferences, but they were interchangeable in regards to skill and impact. Sure Magic won more, but look back at the company he kept.
Robertson is The Big O and Mr. Triple-Double, a prototype that constantly tries to be duplicated, but never replicated.
Magic is and was Magic, plain and simple. He did things that will never be seen again on the basketball court.
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That is a wrap. Did this solve the debates we all have at the water cooler? Heck no, but for the time being we have something to look at to make our debates more knowledgeable. These are eight of the best to ever run a team and in 20 years, we may be discussing the same names or maybe others will enter the mix as the best point guards ever.
Who would you rather have had?
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September 16th, 2011 at 12:22 pm
CJ says:
wow great debate. i think you’re safe either way.
i think it would depends on the supporting cast. with lesser talent around him, i would go with oscar. i think he would be more of a one-man wrecking crew. with those types of numbers he obviously had the ball in his hands most of the time whether he was shooting it or passing it. i don’t know if he could keep other talented players happy. i heard he was a bit difficult in the locker room as well.
Magic however proved that he could play with other great players. he was a strong effective leader, even with kareem on the squad. but i don’t think he would be as effective as oscar if he had a bunch scrubs around him.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:12 pm
JAY says:
Both are great in their own respect. Magic, is the better point guard. Oscar, is a one man gang. Neither one is better than the other.
September 16th, 2011 at 1:39 pm
Jzsmoove says:
Magic all the way man! Big O was nice but Lakers rode Magic to 5 titles. You can argue lakers had more star material to work with. That’s a lot if egos to feed. And Magic fed all and many.
September 16th, 2011 at 2:58 pm
ERIC says:
Big O fo sho!
September 16th, 2011 at 6:01 pm
Ian says:
fuck it its a tie.
magic went to 9 finals i think not 7.(8 of them in the 80s)
won 5 and lost to pistons , bulls , celtics and sixers?? no??
September 16th, 2011 at 7:36 pm
K Dizzle says:
No. Lose. Situation.
September 17th, 2011 at 1:55 pm
Cektics 17 says:
The Big O and Magic were the 2 best guards of their era. The only difference is Magic could play guard,forward or center if that’s what was needed to win.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yYNDWaEmqto&fmt=18
September 17th, 2011 at 6:24 pm
cesar says:
This is the FOURTH and final entry in the Point Guard Debate *