I’ve been guilty of some non-basketball talk, but lately, god damn…it’s insanity. I think everyone here knows who contributes good content and adds value to the Dime reading experience, and who doesn’t. Too bad there wasn’t a minor way to regulate it when someone gets out of hand with the bullshit. A little bit of bullshit, and the lack of moderating people’s input is great, but when it gets too extreme, it’s fucking annoying.

@Dime Can’t you make us sign in with our facebook or twitter accounts or something?

I walked into 7-11 late last night to grab a 3pack of Kobes(24oz) with my old school timberwolves KG jersey on. Some guy inside tells his homie ” this guy has a fucking garnett jersey on!” i live in LA so im guessing he was a fellow laker fan calling me out. Then his friend goes ” yah but its a Twolves jersey not celtics”, and that diffused the situation. So now im kinda pissed cause i have a CP3 hornets jersey that i may not be able to wear around cause i dont want anyone to think im a clipper fan.

rose should not have been mvp. he got lucky. rose just won the hearts of the crowd. everyone likes an underdog. and they used the best record excuse to give it to him. rose wouldn’t carry the knicks. a true mvp can carry a subpar group. i hate rose. rose sucks. rose can eat a dick. right after i finish eating the dick i just warmed up. someone pass the hotsauce. wall is the best in the nba. better than jordan even.

Sean Elliot is pretty bad.

Hahaha, at least the person faking me almost got it right this time…good grammar and English, not saying shit like “freak this!”.

*steps into room to talk ball after a bunch of interesting games last night*

*waste my time reading 30 posts*

Maybe try again tomorrow…

JO vs. Dwight
I’d like to believe Dwight could fight if he ever had to. The problem is that he is a docile big man who has a marketing image of being funny and goofy all the time. Casual fans would eventually forget about the scrum but Dwight would then have to go through the hassle of repairing that image.

Dwight made the smarter decision by not letting it escalate. Ever since the Heat decided to play the villain role, Wade hasn’t done any T-mobile commercials. All Lebron does is lurk in the shadows of his commercials, if he is even seen at all. Ivan Johnson has yet to do an NBA Cares commercial. Players are well aware of their off court images which basically handcuffs them in on court fights.

that’s still an encouraging statement for fake comments. i hope you don’t think your previous comments were a contribution to making it stop. that was my point.

JO vs Dwight

I think JO’s got a shot. He looks like he’s been in a few fights. Dwight’s a giant so I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s gone his whole life without having to fight.

I like the Warriors (mainly because of their jerseys) and hate Memphis, but even I had to repect Memphis for not quitting and killing them in the 4th on the road. That was really impressive without Randolph.

Gay’s free throw shooting would concern me come playoff time though if I was a fan of their’s.

Anybody else think Klay Thompson’s going to be a good player? I’ve only seen two games of his and he looked good in both of them.

Damn where is Chicagorilla?

Almost ready to pull the trigger on a DRose/Pierce for Deron Williams/Marc Gasol trade and need some insight to Rose’s big toe.

All I’m reading says he will try to play but might shut down if they wrap up their seeding and Marc Gasol’s numbers will go down when Fat Zach comes back from injury.

Any Rose insight will be appreciated!

claw, chickgorilla has been here all day faking comments…don’t you notice how most of them involve ROSE or chicago references ! and that is the reason the fake comments are oriented around? cmon. he’s been here. he wouldv’e been commented if he wasn’t jocking my name this whole time.

also, I REMEMBER some weird person bashing kobe playing with a torn ligament in his wrist saying he is getting injections so he is NOT IMPRESSED by kobe even playing on it. well deng has a torn ligament in his wrist, has kobe missed a game yet? nope, but deng has, and word has it, he’ll be out for some time. why doesn’t he JUST INJECT HIMSELF LIKE KOBE and drop 40 points? it’s easy for kobe right? because the injections make him superman huh?

oh and rose’s piggie toe hurts and he misses games. lol the mvp. kobe gets hated on yet people ignore kobe’s grit and competitive force to play through anything and produce like he aint even hurt. yet haters on this site will find any reason to throw rocks at kobe. sad.

i just wanted to get that out there cuz i find it funny that kobe was shitted on for injections, yet bulls players are missing game. isn’t noah due to break something in a month or so? fragile team, with fragile championship hopes.

If i didnt love basketball so much i wouldnt watch the NBA..

Fuck their product..

I wish all these fucking MILLIONAIRE players would get together and START they own shit..

Who’s got 2k12 on PS3???

I’ve been running an online association and been having a ton of fun with it.
I wanted to gauge interested on starting one with some Dime people. Who’s down? I’m going to ask every now and then for the next week.

so celtsfan and and now lakeshow are the only two to call out the fake beib. commendable guys. whether it’s simply you are sick n tired of the dumb. wasted comments or are just looking out for me, very commendable. most guys seem afraid to call out the person. good shit.

and lakeshow, i was talking about that bs trade the other day, i think it was me and bilal talking about whether it was bball related or business related.

i think it’s hilarious that after stern vetoed a trade, his second trade was to send out paul for a player in gordon who he hasn’t given a contract extension to. eric gordon said himself he is basically waiting on stern to re him up. ironic huh.

that whole trade was to bs. can’t trust what happens behind closed doors, yet there were naive fans on this site backing stern’s every word about his reasons behind the failed gig with the lakers/cp3. 90% of the people shitting on the original trade just hated the lakers and were being guided blindly by the commissioner’s scripted reasoning.

kyrie irving of the CLEVELAND CAVALIERS plays ohio native lebron james TONIGHT ! i think that’ll be a good game. dan gilbert’s prized toy against his new nemesis.

@Control, Kdizzle, Big Is, Lakeshow, and all the other guys who been on here for a while.

If you guys find another website to go to, let me know. I can’t deal with this shyt anymore.

austin,

gm’s are the guys who usually run the show with orchestrating trades. dell demps, the gm and their coach were upset when everything fell through. they had spent a lot of time on the deal and they thought it a great move for the team.

stern’s original reasoning for stopping the first trade was because of something along the lines of “we need paul here to have the franchise look palatable for a sale”. well you think they’re any better off now? i’m not saying they can’t sell, but i am saying, it was a pretty quick trigger after the fact. now, they are left with no franchise player, but his reasoning early on was to have the team look attractive. sketchy.

what’s even more sketchy is this. stern made it 100% clear to dell demps and the rest of the front office that they had complete and utter control over basketball decisions. Stern was just a fill-in owner. he knew deep down inside that his involvement with a team was toeing the line of “conflict of interest”. it was to the point david stern let the hornets know those with authority had clearance to talk to whomever inquired about paul and demps had absolute autonomy to trade paul AS THEY SAW FIT.

this wasn’t just an ordinary nixed deal. the ramifications were immense. gm’s who spents yrs working on it felt their time was wasted. it lead to the lakers losing a 6th man of the year for nothing. the players involved felt betrayed. but looking at the team that got paul, you can see the affects of the deal business-wise. shirts, more notoriety and a revived franchise that is not a joke anymore. the lakers were going to be fine. the clippers needed a jolt. and stern made sure another profitable city wasn’t going to waste especially after a long lockout.

stern didn’t even issue a statement right after the fact. he scheduled a statement. most likely to script his fabricated reasoning. wouldn’t a coach know what’s best for his team. why does stern get to decide what is good? he is a lawyer/businessman/commissioner. how does he know what is best for that basketball team outside of MONEY?

i hear all your points austin about the owner having the final say, but consider this. 1, the deal had been worked on way before the season even started, and way before the lockout was even in place. 2, like i mentioned, the gm was given the FREEDOM to trade paul as he and his coach wanted. third, (and this is the most bogus thing stern can’t defend) he provided updates frequently on trade talks to two officials: stu jackson (nba’s vice president) and joel litvin (president of league operations). 4th, those two were keeping stern informed on the entire process the whole time. WHY DIDN’T STERN STOP THE DEAL THEN?

i know why. every person who looks deeper in the deal knows why. the lockout, angry owners and fans who were going to question the point of the lockout. this was not a basketball related move. it was a business move. stern has no defense. all he has is egg on his face and this nixed deal is not like every other cancelled trade because this will probably be the only one remembered throughout all time. ask yourself, everytime you see cp3 play, don’t you tell yourself, wow, he was almost a laker?

sorry i wrote so much, but i wrote fact. i believe stern 5% but 95% of what he explained is shit of bull.

chickgorilla with the gay move of the year. nuthuggin dudes on this site to follow where they go. that is fucking weird. wow! also, quite interesting that when he is called out he appears. interesting. stop faking posts and maybe he wont be called out. dirty whore.

austin,

your post was more in response to the sentiment aspect of my attack on stern. but i hope that means you see how stern actually did screw the franchises on the court. you said you didn’t know any gm who had freedom to conduct moves as pleased and that stern had the final word. well, for those who knew that situation closely understand that stern in fact handed complete freedom to dell demps, allowed team officials to pull the trigger on any deal they saw fit and he was actually being briefed on every advancement in the deal. i hope we are on the same page in terms of stern knowing what was going on, being cool with what was going on and flip flopping after public outcry. so if his basketball reasoning was accurate, he would have killed the deal from day one, instead of watching his workers toil day and night over something he felt wasn’t the greatest “basketball decison” .

i see you touched on, like i said, the sentiments of my argument which were how it affected the players involved, gm’s wasting their time and the ramifications of the trade falling through. you are correct that that doesn’t matter, because it is the life they signed up for. the nba is a business. i get that, i studied business. that is not what my problem was. it was the fact stern lied to the people. i wanted to focus more so on the issues of why stern felt the original trade wasn’t suitable. too many flaws in his explanations and sources close to that situation are even questioning his reasoning especially after dell demps was informing stern the entire time.

yes the hornets ran themselves into the ground, but it is more so the previous owner’s fault more than it is the gm’s fault. also, the coach can’t control the players who gets brought in, he can only control who gets put on the court. monty williams liked that deal. he told demps, the guy who supposedly was given 100% control of trading paul, to bring in scola, odom etc. he wasn’t biting the hand that fed him because he was never fed. he just did his job. stern is like the step dad who comes in the family and tries to regulate with an iron fist. it’s his job to do so, but if you give someone authority, don’t undermine it at the finish line because you have 29 other owners ready to come for your head.

were the other owners going to sell their franchises if stern let paul go to the lakers? were the other 29 owners going to quit or ask for sterns resignation? i don’t think so, mainly because it wasn’t a trade that was by any means lopsided. yes the lakers were getting a franchise player, but they were giving up one themselves in a rare good big man and an amazing 6th man. just as people could say it was a bad deal, just as many people can look at it and say it was a great deal for all parties.

cp3 wasn’t acting like it was his right to be traded prior to being traded. it was only after the fact that he was supposedly traded that paul starting bitching about lawsuits, and i don’t blame him. he was doing what any player can do and demand a trade, even if that is wrong, he wasn’t making it his right at that point. he just let his team know he wanted out. if a kid was told he would go to the zoo tommorow by his dad, he’d be excited. but when saturday arrives and his dad just tells him “kiddo, we’ll go next week” , you can’t blame the kid for throwing a fit and acting like it is his right to go because he was told he would be going. it would only be wrong for that kid to complain if he wasn’t told he was going at all. i’m not saying the kid is right for complaining, but i can understand why he would be.

also, like is said, the clippers were on the rise before, but with the way the league was headed with superstars teaming up, sending a premiere player in paul to play with blake would get the attention of those who don’t even pay attention to bball. blake griffin was a good ticket, but i know people who watched their first clippers game because of all the controversy and the star power they now had. an organization in LA needs to be at the peak of notoriety. blake griffin and crew would not get it done. cpe and blake griffin would. espn runs interviews with both cp3 and blake because now they have two possible hall of famers. sending paul to the cavs would just bury a great player on a bad team.

i bet if monta ellis played point guard for the heat he’d be the next big star. because he plays on a subpar team, no one really respects him. don;t send a great talent to a bad team because no one respects stats of a good player on a bad team. that would be bad business if stern did that. the safe thing to do would be to send paul to a profitable team that hasn’t been the best of the best. and the clippers fit the bill. plus they had the pieces to do it as stern claims.

and your final point, yes you probably don’t look at paul and wonder he could have been a hawk or whatever, because he was never associated with those franchises. but that’s just you. some people look at durant and say he could have been a trailblazer though. some people even look at jordan and say he could have been a blazer. but the fact that paul was technically a laker for all about an hour, some if not many look at paul and see that failed trade.

well if you stop telling the faker he is so funny maybe he’d stop.

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so the cavs-heat game did turn out to be a good game. lbj with the win.

i bet if the magic still had gortat on the roster, trading dwight would be much easier. gortat is balling. he is a good center. starting caliber too. damn.