Smack / Jan 23, 2012 / 1:24 am

The Pacers Steal L.A.’s Thunder; Paul Pierce Hasn’t Lost His Touch

Danny Granger

Danny Granger (photo. Stephen Hill)

To pass or not to pass? Kobe finally gave it up twice in the final minute of the Pacers’ 98-96 win over the Lakers, and we almost wished he would’ve forced up something. First, Matt Barnes missed a wide-open trey, and then Derek Fisher threw up some type of contraption (not sure what that was… a pass? a shot? a prayer?) that didn’t touch anything but the out-of-bounds paint. With the Lakers down three in the final seconds, Bryant was finally forced into a long, 30-footer off the dribble that was off. While the Mamba still finished with 33 points and and eight rebounds, for the Pacers, the outcome was a confirmation: Watch out for us. Judging these teams based just off of what they’ve done this season shouldn’t have turned Indiana into underdogs. But it felt like that. Now that they’ve won a few games against some “elite” teams, Indiana has to be a serious threat to win a round in the Eastern playoffs. Danny Granger chipped in 16 points, but it was Roy Hibbert (18 points, eight rebounds) who made the largest impact for the visitors. He broke his nose in the first half, and while he was originally not expected to return, he did come back with gauze pads stuck up his nose like the bell just rang. In the fourth quarter, he got whacked on that thing again. It started bleeding and he still stayed in, coming down on the following possession and beasting Pau Gasol (who had one of the best passes of his career last night in one of the most passive games we’ve ever seen) on the block with a jump hook. The Pacers had to fight all night after early foul trouble threw them in a ditch, and Hibbert was literally the one in the middle of that. Still, Andrew Bynum had a backdown dunk on Hibbert in the third quarter where the Laker sent Hibbert to the floor like he was playing linebacker. The Laker color guys actually thought it was a flop, and called the former Hoya out on it, saying no big man should be flopping. If only it were that easy to get them to listen … Kobe really doesn’t like George Hill defending him does he? Whenever he caught the combo guard isolated on him, his eyes got larger than Mike Tomlin‘s. What followed was almost always some type of twisting, double-pumping, fallaway shot. During the second half of the third quarter, Kobe’s mindset was particularly easy to see. This stems back to Hill’s San Antonio days when he was the first short guy to punk Kobe since Chris Childs. Also, what’s the deal with Kobe rocking jerseys that are three sizes too big? He’s always been a lil’ late-’90s with his on-court style, but Bryant seems to be pushing the envelope even more this year. He’s looking like Hot Sauce in those things … Kareem Rush – remember him? – sang the national anthem before the game. Pretty bad when the pre-game singer is a better player than half of your roster. Darius Morris, for one, is dangerously close to Smush Parker territory. And Metta World Peace scored 11 last night, and it felt like it was nearly his best game of the year … Interesting take we heard on Twitter last night: the Lakers look like they’re a year away from being where Boston is at right now, with Lamar Odom being their very own Kendrick PerkinsKeep reading to hear about the best dunk of the night …

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  • beiber newz

    claw, are you telling me you never heard the saying “could’ve gone either way” ?

    and your facetious tone gets a C- at best. it doesn’t sound to intricate. if you want to sound that way at least make it sound intelligent. obviously team can win or lose. the term ‘going either way’ refers to how certain plays within a game can determine the loss. some loses are determined well before the game is over. yet some losses are determined by a missed free throw here or a turnover there. i can’t believe i had to explain this.

  • beiber newz

    i feel bad for chicago cuz they missing michael jordan
    ever since he retired the windy city’s been in mourning
    when d. rose isn’t playing yea the bulls are flat out boring
    and their title hopes sink low like a lil martin lawrence
    derrick rose got some handles, yea i think it’s type gorgeous
    but lil man always travels, i might as well call him tourist
    the bulls need him bad just like a song needs a chorus
    if he gets seriously injured, go burn their hopes like a forest

    haha.

  • beiber newz

    no one will ever be number 12 on the spurs again….why? san antonio is retiring his number.

  • beiber newz

    Yeah CLAW, games can go either way so the Knicks were the mutha fuking champs last year. Go Knicks, let win it all again this year.

    Melo for MVP
    Melo for MVP
    Melo for MVP
    Melo for MVP
    Melo for MVP

  • the shaman

    Knicks have knuckleheads that have a knack for losing, and that is all you need to remember.

    First off, ‘The Self-Important Ghost Of Allen Iverson’ has somehow poltergeisted Melo’s ego. I don’t know whether it was from direct physical contact or just something AI left wafting in the atmosphere in Denver that Melo contracted at the airport on his way out of town. He’s a team-killer because no player that plays that much one-on-one without any team involvement will win a Championship. Period.

    Yes, you need a big-time scorer SIMILAR to Melo in the playoffs, during crunch-time when you need a clutch bucket or ability to get some free throws. But what about the first 46 minutes? Anthony is not a true leader, he doesn’t share. He’s just a scorer. That is why Kevin Durant will win a Chip and Melo won’t, he plays more to win, not for himself. The only way he will have a chance is as an aging veteran, like when Glenn Big Dog Robinson finally won one with the Spurs.

    I will never, ever forget the first ESPY Awards I watched where Carmelo won some award, ROY or most outstanding player or some bull. He got on the microphone and committed the ultimate faux pas of all-time when speaking at an Awards Show when he casually said, “I’d like to thank MYSELF for putting in all the hard work and hours in the gym shooting jumpers…”, or something to that effect. You NEVER thank YOURSELF!!! That’s your JOB, dumbass! Needless to say the audience was simply stunned, I think there are still some jaws laying around haphazardly on the floor to this day. And as for Carmelo, he has simply never grown out of that “me-first” mentality even after all these years.

    Second, Amare was best with a PG who could dissect the other team on Pick-and-Roll. Knucks don’t have that. And he’s never played D with much mojo, just getting occasional blocks like anybody with that much ath-uh-leticism (Barkley) should at 6’10″.

    The Spurs used to gameplan to basically allow Amare to score more in the playoffs by playing single-coverage. He had MONSTER games often to the tune of 40+ points, but it was still just two points a trip. They knew if they took away the 3 they could still do their damage on the other end and at least keep it close as the Suns couldn’t play D on opposing PNR’s. In other words, the Suns executed the PNR about as poorly as they defended it. It was “pick your poison” back then with Amare, but now he doesn’t have that same venom.

    Third, thinking Baron would solve NY’s major issues is like saying Steve Francis or AI would still be able to do the same. They will not have enough time or health to build up Championship chemistry. Plus, the only PG’s still around that can pull up for a 3 with twenty seconds on the shot clock and not hurt their team are Chauncey Billups and Steve Nash.

    Anyway, Davis’ priority seems to be more about Hollywood than as a franchise savior these days, as he passed the proverbial torch when he let Monta Ellis Shang Tsung his soul the day he left Oakland. Then Mike Dunleavy made sure to cripple his fighting spirit like Bolo in Bloodsport before Davis left Clipperland. Or maybe it was a “back-breaker” like Tong Po did in Kickboxer, that makes more sense for a herniated disc issue. I love Boom Dizzle but he won’t be the same guy that hurt AK47′s feelings so bad that he still plays in Russia, where his spiky head is safer from such aerial assaults.

    I think Baron Davis will improve the Knicks, just not enough. Unless they get a Deron Williams type up there it’s gonna be doom and gloom all season. But feel free to keep deluding yourselves. To me, the Nets have as much of a chance as the Knicks this year…ZERO.

  • beiber newz

    hey the shaman,
    you better watch out now, guys like chickgorilla will get mad at you for expressing your thoughts in lengthy details. he is part of the censor crew.

  • b

    chicago doesn’t play pretty ball… it plays winning ball. hate on that all you want, but at the end of the year if the knicks make the playoffs, if, and they lose in the first round – keep banging on chicago as ugly.

    they might lose to miami, might, but they ain’t loosin to new york. new york could’ve beat them if they kept that core pre melo trade, as they did twice during the season, but now – no chance

  • Big Island

    JAY – Perfect summary of the world of boxing. For the record, I would want Pacman to win because fuck Mayweather, but it is all politics. Boxing is dead outside of this fight, most fight fans watch the UFC now. Even if they agreed on a 50/50 split on the fight it would still get hung up with al of the other BS. Who gets top billing? Who gets to decide how it’s promoted? Even if you don’t watch the UFC, they handle all of the fights themselves. They don’t do cross promotion between different organizations. They lose some talent (Fedor before he lost a couple) but for the most part the top guys fight the top guys. It’s only in boxing where guys dodge guys, camps dodge camps, promoters dodge promoters. Imagine the Patriots and giants having different promoters and not agreeing to play one another. Floyd can eat it. Pacman can eat it. Arum can eat it. Whoever else has anything to do with boxing can eat it.

    My buddy’s wife used to work for Arum. She said he was a really nice dude even though you always hear otherwise.

  • beiber newz

    #57

    i bet if the knicks AT LEAST had that same support cast the bulls have now, they’d be lightyears better than chicago. what i mean is, just imagine if nyk n chi switched support casts, outside of the stars (rose vs melo amare) i mean isn’t it fair to assume, seeing as how rose is the MOST VALUABLE PLAYER. so, like melo keeps telling ppl, the knicks gave away starters. if rose was left with the same cast around melo and amare i think the bulls would be just as good if not worse. bulls need rose, and he earned his mvp because of that.

  • beiber newz

    And if the Knicks had Miami’s supporting cast outside of the stars (Lebron Vs Melo Amare) then we talking about championships.

  • Taj

    No one should ever get crossed up that nasty by a dude in pink shoes… EVER!

  • beiber newz

    haha @ taj

  • b

    @59

    my point exactly. the bulls depth is their strength, and i’d expect the knicks to be better with chi-towns supporting cast as they have 2 stars.

    but also, chicago’s team first nature is what gets them through. so far you here amare and melo talk the talk, but not yet doin the walk re defence, ball movement etc. i’m not hating on those guys, i’m just saying, its what i see.

    for the record – i’d like to see NYK do well, their fans have been hard done by for the last decade by a stupid owner – something you have in common with chicago to a certain extent

  • b

    btw – melo shouldn’t be saying anything about what knicks gave away – he forced the issue. gotta give him some respect tho, cause he coulda left denver hanging ala lebron james style and walked into a better situation in NY via free agency

  • beiber newz

    go knicks

  • http://Dimemag.com Panchitoooo

    Love this line from shaman:

    no player that plays that much one-on-one without any team involvement will win a Championship. Period.

    If shaman believes this statement than kobe cant be that much if a cheese, right?

  • Big Island

    How long will it take people to realize Melo is a big part of what’s wrong in NY?!?! Seriously. With all of the get him some help bs being talked about, nobody is bringing up the fact that he is an awful guy to play with. Denver had a squad with a ton of good guys. He pouted his way out to NY, where he thought he would come in and be the man. He can score, nobody says he doesn’t, but he absolutely does not help your team at all. I would LOVE to have him as a sixth man, come in, just go nuts, and then sit back down. He doesn’t pass, I don’t know if he can, he has to have the ball in his hands to score, he doesn’t move too well without the ball, and he plays zero defense. Plus he wears matching bubble jackets with Wade and Lebron!!

    http://vsaxmusic.com/2011/11/21/lebron-james-friends-nba-tour-starting-dec-4th-streamed-live-by-google/

    I think he is an extremely talented player who doesn’t understand how to make a basketball team better. He plays on a team where nobody else is capable of being that guy. He plays on a team where the coach only knows how to put up more shots than the other team. I’ll go one further and say he is a cancer for a team unless there is an absolute STUD on the squad who won’t put up with his bs.

    Stop with the “if he had a supporting cast” crap. Denver had a supporting cast. The Knicks had a supporting cast last season, and it isn’t terrible this season. The Heat, outside of Wade, Bosh and Lebron, have nothing really worthwhile. Norris Cole is playing well. But Chalmers? James Jones? I like Mike Miller as a person, but Mike Miller? I want Eddy Curry to do well, but Eddy Curry? 249 year old Juwan Howard?!?! And Wade and Lebron don’t even play well together! I take it back, NY’s team is pretty weak. I almost used Bibby and Jeffries. Melo and Tyson Chandler for Dwight, Jameer Nelson, and someone else to match numbers. Everyone is happy and Melo could go to all of the Heat games to cheer his buddies. Fucking cancer.

  • Big Island

    Except for the shaman said it.

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  • Big Island

    Beiber!!!

  • beiber newz

    in an association where team basketball is key…melo was able to carry syracuse to a championship.

  • beiber newz

    i think melo even almost made it to the finals the year he played the lakers when he was on the nuggets.

  • beiber newz

    isn’t it crazy how everyday people find a way to talk about the knicks? sometimes i think most of you are secret fans. you people always want to talk about them. some of you probably have a marbury shrine.

  • beiber newz

    who was it that said paul pierce lost it? lol hm, i said give time time, he still got it. and wall heating up. who was it that said wall is not as good as people make him seem? hm i knew he’d ratchet up.

    on another note…the thing that separates rose from kobe is that when kobe gets older, he is able to be effective due to a sweet stroke, arsenal of moves, post game, height advantage , etc. i don’t know how rose will perform at 33. he relies on speed and athleticism. his handles gets him by defenders, that’ll stay…but his loss of speed at 33 will make its effectiveness shoot way down. his jumper already looks too mechanical and at 33 i don’t know how much he can depend on it. it may be the only thing to extend his career so he better continue to work on it. his loss of hops will force him to do less herky jerky moves. and with a slight loss of hangtime, i don’t know if his style of play will warrant 35 minutes a night, like how the black mamba can still command at his age. kobe>rose forever.

  • http://Dimemag.com Panchitoooo

    Correction:
    Kobe<rose….alligator eats the smaller one

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