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Smack / Feb 3, 2012 / 2:54 am

Derrick Rose Takes A Bite Out Of The Big Apple; Timofey Mozgov Gets Revenge

Derrick Rose

Derrick Rose (photo. adidas)

There’s no grander stage than Madison Square Garden, and Derrick Rose shined like stars should in NYC as Chicago bounced the Knicks, 105-102. The basics first: 32 points, 13 assists. What left you gasping: a blow-by Toney Douglas dunk in the third, a deke of Tyson Chandler at the rim a little later. The capper, however, was a layup where he avoided Chandler, Amar’e Stoudemire and Jared Jeffries driving through the lane while playing hide-and-seek with the ball around his head. Spike Lee, dressed to the hilt in a Lawrence Taylor Giants jersey, even stood up for that one. If you broke down the number of fans shaking their head in the “how did he just do that?” variety, Rose would lead the league … We all know the back page of the New York Post will be about the Knicks not coming through, but cheer up Garden fans, STAT went for a season-high 34 points and 11 boards. When he and Chandler (nine points, eight boards) traded power dunks in the second half, all of a sudden you remembered there was a crowd at MSG and that Stoudemire’s knees still have pop. Carmelo (26 points) was less memorable … The Tim Duncan of not so long ago showed up again in San Antonio for the Spurs’ 93-81 win over New Orleans. Gregg Popovich said that after Duncan scored 25 against Houston (he had 19 and nine last night in 22 minutes), he wants to keep some tread on Duncan’s tires by playing him more selectively. Playing the Hornets is the perfect time to do that. Tony Parker continued the vintage south Texas show with 18 points … Yes, Utah’s Gordon Hayward showed his face tonight against Golden State after last night’s ridiculous, fast-break block by Blake Griffin. He even led the Jazz with 21 points, but the Warriors won 119-101 at home. Steph Curry (29 points, 12 assists) was a showman with the ball. He whipped a left-hand no-look to Monta Ellis (33 points) on the break in the second, then threw a three-quarter oop to Ellis in the second half … In Atlanta it was cause to celebrate because Memphis won there for the first time in six years. It’s a little hard to believe considering the Phillips Arena crowd isn’t exactly vocal or full — or even have a Clipper Darrell character — and the Hawks have been so-so in that stretch. Whatever Lionel Hollins‘ crew said tonight, they made like Sherman’s March to the Sea and burned down the Hawks, off a 4-1 road trip, frighteningly easy, 96-77 … The Grizz were up 30 at one point after the Hawks, down just 10 at the break, didn’t score on their first seven shots of the second half. Meanwhile, Rudy Gay (21 points) and O.J. Mayo (18 points) were dunking all over the place in stretches and made a comfortable win look much worse for Atlanta. Could Rudy’s arm go back any further on his tomahawk in the second quarter? … Keep reading to hear what happened to Timofey Mozgov against Blake Griffin this time …

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  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i think the knicks are showing what they will be in games where amare plays up to his status along in games where melo plays like himself (stud) and when there are championship caliber role players around them. fields is waking up again! keep his ass.

  • Big Island

    I’d get rid of Melo for Joe Johnson just to see Austin smile and watch Beiber flip out and turn into Hercubeib.

  • atlien

    i’d get rid of Melo for Joe Johnson because atlanta.

    yup. because atlanta.

  • rw

    Im still reeling over DIME’s coverage of Mavs OKC yest. The RC ejection wasn’t a kick out of frustration, he was returning the ball to refs but it flew off his foot. The referring was so substandard, you’d be hard pressed to find someone who could call it objective. But no mention.. No worries

  • http://www.bettlejuiceXs3.com Chicagorilla

    The TNT dudes had me rolling last night. Finally someone spoke up about Lebron’s Hairline lol.

    Shaq taking it personal that they call Dwight Superman is funny as hell. He kept saying he was the “Original Superman” and I don’t think he was. If i remember, didn’t they used to called Jordan superman? Maybe it was just in a few highlights i don’t know.

    DRose = The MFKing man. nuff said.

    Denver = Philly = the most entertaining teams that don’t have star players.

    Boozer + Noah + T.Chandler = $200 Million dollars of wasted height. Seriously. Boozer was playing like Tupac a.k.a. Birdie was in the crowd and Amare was telling him “Birdie said no defense. You play for us now”<— (above the rim reference…catch up)
    Noah and Chandler are 7fters that can't score to save their lives. Tyson is damn near 30 and still doesn't have a post move, Noah been in the NBA for 5years and hasn't fixed his jumper nor learned a post move. Shyt is annoying to watch.

  • stefan

    Does anyone watch the top 10s on nba.com? they have guy commentating the plays now that sounds like the 90s. It’s hard to explain, but Rick Kamla used to do it often and it was great. Now they changed him with this old school voice.. it’s like I’m watching NBA Action, the 30 minute weekly NBA update that was popular in Europe in the 90s.

    And God damn it Blazers. You beat the bobcats by 60 and then lose to sacramento where you won 11 out of the last 12. I thought you would go on a little streak. How can a guy place some bets in this league? This year it’s impossible…

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i don’t know how to get this hawaiian dude off my sack.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz
  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=IroCDPBwcow

    the only thing missing here is a captain planet appearance.

  • EN FUEGO

    That’s gotta hurt. If your stars put up numbers like they’re supposed to (maybe more) and get the support they need but your team still loses at home?

    Kinda looking like the Knicks still don’t have what it takes to hang with the big boys.

    Rid Melo for Joe Johnson. Cold and cruel. beiber will surely lose it! HAHAHAHA

    beiber newz to barbie news is where my money will be

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz
  • First & Foremost

    The funniest thing I’ve seen today… Over on NBA.com they have a picture of Rose finishing at the rim around the outstretched arm of Jeffries. The best part is the facial expressions from the 6 people in the picture:

    Rose ~Just a little bit further~
    Jeffries ~I hate playing the help defender~
    Stat ~My bad Jared~
    Joakim ~I got this if you miss little buddy~
    Shumpert ~Let me just ease out of this picture~
    Melo ~LOL… Defense~

  • heckler

    the allstar starters were predictable.
    in fact, these are the same 10 that will start next year (barring injury & Dwights team next year).

    who should make it to the reserve squad?

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    @beiber
    You can’t get Big I off you. Once he’s on only he decides whether to let it go. Dirk is still receiving flowers on his doorstep every Monday morning with a card saying,
    To my favorite big guy.
    From Big I.

    BTW; remember our discussion about the fan all-star voting being a popularity contest?? I have another example to support my argument that I think you will agree with…
    John Wall (Was) 96,606 – 8th for East guards
    Ricky Rubio (Min) 397,456 – 3rd for West guards
    Jose Calderon and Richard Hamilton were ahead of Wall, and Rubio was ahead of Westbrook.
    Of course this year’s voting didn’t really effect the starting lineups(Phew!), but this shows that it is about who’s popular because fairweather fans are voting (my niece voted, and she’s 4). Unless you want to argue that Rubio is the West’s 3rd best guard.

  • First & Foremost

    They should eliminate the East vs. West game. Then replace it with a 6 team tournament. Each division sends a 7 man team. The division with the highest win % gets a first round bye. 30 minute games [Two-15 minutes halves] 4 fouls per player.

    Everyone wins… fewer egregious snubs because you expand the field of “All-Star” players from 24 to at least 42. The league has a full day of games with a March Madness feel to them. Most notably, the owners get to prove how lopsided the league is based on how many players from the same team are considered stars in their own division.

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    ^ Would never happen, but I love the idea.

  • First & Foremost

    True it would never happen. 60+ years of the same format makes it grandfathered in.

    If it were to happen this year. The Pacific division would be known as LA. The Central division team would be some trash overall. All 76ers would be snubbed from the Atlantic division. For the foreseeable future the Southeast, south south east, would run shit.

    If only…

  • LMNOP

    DAAAMN Derrick Rose, thats all i can say about that… the kid is good.

    Has anyone noticed, that if it wasn’t for Kevin Durant, then Pau Gasol with the 3rd most votes as a west forward, would be a starter and we would have an all LA western All Star team. Thats a scary thought.
    And Deron Williams, i know he plays in Jersey, but how do Ray Allen and Rajon Rondo get more votes than him? I think Tommy Heinsosnonn must have been voting constantly between jacking off over larry bird highlights.

  • control

    Melo is really an allstar starter? That is pretty undeserving, you could argue that he IS an allstar, but he really isn’t even the best star on his own team. Amare is going to make the allstar team most likely, so that means a team that might not even make the playoffs will have two allstars? Hahah.

    I really dislike Vinny El Negro’s substitutions. The guy doesn’t think for himself AT ALL, he pretty much plays his starters against the other team’s starters, and his bench against the other team’s bench. He won’t make a change in the lineup unless the other team does, it’s insane. The guy also quits more than any coach I’ve ever seen, half way through the 3rd and he’s already given up the game. Has Blake ever played against a team’s second line and went crazy? Has the guy ever tried an unconventional line like Blake, Jordan, Evans with Paul and Billups? Imagine the offensive rebounding with a lineup like that…Vinny really isn’t that good as a coach, considering the talent the Clippers have.

    While some players take the offseason to find an old school player and pickup some mentoring, apparently Blake picked up Vladi Divac, Rick Fox and Sam Cassel to work on his whiney faces, complaining and flopping. He should have picked up ANYONE to work on his free throw shooting instead. The Clippers as an organization NEED to get some free throw shooting coaches, they have three of the worst free throw shooters in the league in Jordan, Evans and Griffin, wtf?

    Anyone see that flop CP did in the 3rd quarter? He was cutting through the line, and just literally executed a stunman dive after he lost the ball, he flew like he was shot out a god damn cannon, I’m sooooo glad the refs didn’t buy it and bail him out on that bullshit.

  • Reg

    Anthony is undeserving of the All Star spot this season. He is on a team with a losing record and he is mostly to blame with his pathetic defence and poor offence which has been riddled with too many field goal attempts and he is simply not converting.

  • Bilal

    Melo starting is ridiculous (sorry BNews).

    I really hate the fan voting a bulk of the fans would vote whoever the NBA promotes most with highlights (Blake). Yes yes i am hating on Blake). KLove should be starting instead, but fans want the highlights and do what Stern wants.

    better end the rant here otherwise its gonna be a 4 page essay on “Why NBA is SternBA”

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    @Bilal
    Yup. Giving fans 100% of the decision to choose the starters is stupid.

    Another example of why it’s stupid….
    A couple of my friends who are die-hard hockey guys and don’t give a damn about basketball went online and…*wait for it*…they voted for the names that sound like they should be playing hockey.

  • silky

    lolol@ above the rim ref’s

    “c’mon coach… put me in, im all the point guard you’ll EVER need”
    -toney douglas(wayans)

    man I have a serious appreciation for rose gettin in and finishing around the rim. making the circus look standard, like Nash did when he broke out in dallas

  • heckler

    @ ALL–

    If the fans dont vote, who should vote?

    coaches already select the reserves. the commissioners office selects injury replacements.

    and I’ll be DAMNED if we allow PUNKASS media beatwriters to vote! they are MORE misguided than fans!

    “Im not voting for him because he denied to an interview last year.”
    “no. he plays in a small market. he has no business in the allstar game.”
    “I’ve always like Tim Duncan. who cares if he only averages 12pts this season. based on his overall career body of work, he is deserving. Kevin Love is young, he’ll have other chances. Im voting for Tim Duncan.”

    That shit is a strecth, but its NOT a far reach. if you DONT think writers/media think like that, than you need to be exposed to more.

    If the Dime office had the right to vote, Austin will have Eric Maynor in the game even though he’s hurt. or maybe he’ll have Paul George in the game.
    Patrick would have Lou Williams and Spencer Hawes in the game.
    Christian would have Landry Fields and Tyson Chandler in there.

    no, NO, NO…..

    see….gotta have the fans vote. and gotta have them vote for starters only.
    the format on voting is actually correct as it is now.

  • http://Dimemag.com Panchitoooo

    What about kenny smith calling Ty Lawson the new jet? Im kinda
    feeling that. There really aint alot nicknames for all the great players like their was in the past. The new school players like Wall, Rubio, Love, Griffin, D Will, and D Rose dont got Any nicknames yet. What would be some good one? Im sure if we come up with some good ones dime can make it popular.

    Too bad theres not more Nugget fans here theyd probably argue that Mozgov is now the best center in the league after last nights game.

  • EN FUEGO

    Hell of an idea, F & F
    Unlikely, but still… But if they ever give it some thought, they might as well realign the sense out of the divisions. It’s a geographical mess and confusing as shit.

    EASTERN CONFERENCE

    ATLANTIC
    Boston
    New York
    Philadelphia
    Washington
    New Jersey
    – Makes more sense Washington being there. Plus old rivalries stay put.

    CENTRAL
    Chicago
    Detroit
    Indiana
    Cleveland
    Toronto
    – Bucks go west. Last time they were champs they were in the West, so what the hell. Geography still looks fine.

    SOUTHEAST
    Miami
    Orlando
    Atlanta
    Charlotte
    New Orleans
    – Hornets go back east. Fuck the balance of power if there are any. With CP3 in LA, Bogut is the only significant one and mate’s too injured to be a factor right now.

    WESTERN CONFERENCE

    SOUTHWEST
    Dallas
    San Antonio
    Houston
    Phoenix
    Oklahoma City
    – Phoenix and Pacific never made sense. Too bad for the Lakers-Suns rivalry but between Nash, Dirk & that tackle by Horry more than makes up for any rivalry. This where OKC truly belongs.

    MIDWEST
    Memphis
    Minnesota
    Denver
    Utah
    Milwaukee
    -needs to be renamed MIDWEST because a Northwest Division without Seattle just ain’t right.

    PACIFIC
    Los Angeles Lakers
    Los Angeles Clippers
    Sacramento
    Golden State
    Portland
    – Blazers-Lakers makes up for any rivalry lost and Portland is closer to the Pacific than Phoenix ever was.

  • First & Foremost

    @Jay, imagine if voters voting for more important things made uninformed desicions like that. Just imagine if you voted for a politician based on class instead of character or appearance over morals or because he/she has the same last name or because the name appeared first on the ballot, or you heard that your friends were also voting for that person. Just imagine if we lived in a world where the government officials were elected based on the most mundane characteristics about them [Abe Lincoln won because he had a beard]. We’d probably have millions of people out in the streets protesting decisions of the elected decision makers once they realize how the decisions adversely affect their lives.

    Maybe, just maybe if we eliminate the ignorance at the front end of the voting process by having people make educated decisions, the after the fact uproar will die down.
    ——————————————————–

    Take the NBA All-Star voting for what it is. It is a popularity contest to allow fans to feel connected to the sport. Even though it flufs the HOF resume while shitting on perennial snubs possible resume, just let it be.

    Marc Gasol could have posted Dwight’s numbers and still not beat out Bynum. Millsap could have posted 17 & 9 with the same FG% as Blake with 2 less turnovers per game and finish in the bottom 5 of Forwards for the West.

    It just doesn’t matter how good A year a player is having. Chances are, to be an All-star you have to have Tebow-like hype or building up your status for a couple of years.

  • Big Island

    Beib – the Melo jokes will stop as soon as you stop hyping him. It’s all in good fun though.

    JAY – Deliver flowers?! I pick them myself every morning and seal the envelope with a tear and a kiss. Sometimes I even go into my sticker book and put some in there. If only they came out with a Dirk band-aid so I could put him on whatever cuts I get. It would be like he was kissing my boo boos.

    My biggest gripe with the ASG is that now guys have their pay tied to it when it is simply a popularity contest. I guess they sell more jerseys and they are worth it to the team, but it isn’t a performance thing.

  • Big Island

    OH! I forgot to give Beiber props for the Kobe/Celtics pictures.

  • Mt. Pleasant

    @ Control

    Agree with melo’s allstar nomination, Vinnies substitutions and Blakes whiney face was hilarious.

    However, yesterday was the clips 4th game in 5 nights with travel between every game, he had to pull em in the third, that starting unit looked pretty spent.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    k love is on a losing team. leave him off the all star team?

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    and did someone really say melo hasn’t been the best knick up until this point? wasn’t yesterday the first time amare has topped 25 all season or something like that?

  • K Dizzle

    LMAO @ “Birdie said no defense. You play for us now”
    Knicks need to put a call out to Kyle Lee Watson to run their point…

    All-star voting was mostly ok. Melo starting over Bosh is just wrong. Below all-star numbers on a below .500 squad.
    Even Josh Smith has been more consistent. Everybody else got a legit case. Love over Griffin wasn’t gonna happen, but they’ll both be there. Aldridge(better than Bosh THIS SEASON) needs to get there. Shouldn’t really be a snub this season unless the coaches put in Nowitzki, Dirk or Gasol over Milsap or LMA.

    @ JAY – Blake’s free throw shooting is partly why I can’t rank him above Love. The comedy of the Clips is that they the 2nd worst free throw shooting team in the l(Hi, Dwight! Your Magic number 1 yet again) but also got stud freebie drainers in CP3(81%), Mo(88%), and Chauncey(89%) who better be gettin the ball in late game situations

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    REPORTS ARE OUT SAYING THE LAKERS HAVE EXPRESSED INTEREST IN SIGNING….JR SMITH !!! who was it that i talked about with this a few days ago? this would be an epic move, jr and kobe at practice scrimmages should be televised !

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    also…i can’t BELIEVE people are complaining about the starters for the all star game. is this more hating or actual disagreeing with the results? the selections are great selections. yes some guys could have been chosen over others, but the guys chosen are still legit acceptable. go drink some tea and calm down. it’s gonna be a good game.

    and you guys called ME a whiner.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    melo IS the second best forward in the east, pf or sf. accept it.

  • LakeShow84

    Part of me wants Denver to get far..

    The way they play is beautiful basketball.. I dont think them not having a goto player is going to hurt them.. in anycase Lawson and Danillo are studs.. both of them got balls too lol

    I dont think there is a player alive that can check Rose either.. Dude is starting to go 1 on 3-4 in the HALFCOURT more and more.. sick

    And who said something about my boy Nutso?!!? lol

  • LakeShow84

    Sorry Beiber but Melo playing like shit and leading shit nowhere lol jussayin

  • LakeShow84

    And considering there arent too many pure PG’s (vision, passing) in the league id say Rubio is moving up on that PG list PRETTY QUICK..

    Imagine if dude played for Miami.. HOLY SHIT lol

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    omg…if any good pg with vision like that palyed with miami HOLY SHIT lol…i.e jason kidd. if kidd was on the heat i’d say they’d win. not even nash, but if someone like kidd was on that team….sheeesh.

    oh and BI gave me props on something? woah…it’s only been a few months since that’s happened.

  • control

    To me, a definition of an allstar is a guy who does the things his team needs to win. The team might have a losing record, but the question is: Did this player do more to cause wins than cost wins? Guys who are on losing teams can easily be a “yes” because you can have a shitty team that would be even more shittier without that person. Now, when you have a guy who costs his team wins with how he plays, regardless of his stats, can his spot on the allstar team be debated? Hell yeah. What is the point of playing basketball, if not to win? Therefore, a player who plays for stats, or otherwise doesn’t help his team win, isn’t very valuable.

    I would even say that a player shouldn’t be considered a “star” if it is even logically debatable that he helps his team win. Guys like LeBron, Rose, Durant, etc, there is no debating that they have a very positive impact on their teams, of course they have flaws, but they are “stars”. Guys like Westbrook, Boozer, and Melo though…they may or may not hurt their teams with their play, but it IS debatable. So, can you really call them “stars”.

    Mt Pleasant

    I would agree with you, if we were talking about the oldman celts or Spurs. The Clips have some of the most athletic guys in the league on their team, they should be able to handle more than 30 minutes a game, which Vinny cut the starters off at. What would 3 more minutes, and maybe a very nice run, do? Sure the Clips are in 3rd place in the conf right now, but they are 3 games out of being 10th or 11th place, the West is really tough, and if they want to make an impact, they gotta be tough. Giving away a game, even one game, isn’t tough.

    Shit, as much as I hate on the celtics, they had a 20 point come back last week…and they are all old men (not to mention, they might not even HAVE a bench…). They stepped up, didn’t give it up, and got a very much needed win. I hate on them more than anyone else on this site, but that is the shit that you gotta have if you want to be a winner.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    and i’m having trouble picking p my jaw at the comment: MELO PLAYING LIKE SHIT ?!

    love’s team aint winning either…LOVE IS PLAYING LIKE SHIT?

    that is not fair to say. learn to separate team records from individual accomplishments. it’s called discretion.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    there was a game when melo was on the nuggets and he had a 50 point game. they lost.

    this was melo’s tweet later that night:

    “I’ll trade this 50 for a W. Anyone, anyone?”

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    people forget, when there was a cast of contributers on the offensive end for melo on the nuggets, and solid defensive schemes around melo, he had a chance at the finals when he went up against kobe’s lakers in the west. conf. finals. put some solid guys on the knicks that could contribute to the point total as well as solid defensive system/players, melo is talented enough to lead a team. people are just judging what melo is doing off the final result instead of how he actually played. i bet most of you complaining probably haven’t watched more than 3 knicks games all year.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i hear k mart is a clipper

  • K Dizzle

    What’s with comparing Melo to Love?

    Who has the better stats?
    Who’s team has the better record?
    Love plays in the west(9 teams over .500). Melo plays in the east(like 5 teams over .500).
    Worst team in the west is Sacramento, who just beat the Blazers? No, New Orleans, who beat the Magic?
    Worst team out east is Charlotte or Toronto?
    Just stop…

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    no one is comparing melo to love dizzle i don’t think.

    at least im not.

    all i was doing is saying if guys have a problem with melo’s selection cuz of the team RECORD, then they should share a problem with love cuz of his losing record.

    it wasn’t about stats , at least for me.

    and i love how you trying to coddle love and show sympathy for his record. this is the nba. no boys allowed. stop expressing any sort of leeway for love. a losing record is a losing record. no one cares that the pacers and 6ers emerging is a big reason there is parity in the east cuz melo is playing there, stop showing leeway for love in the west.

  • LakeShow84

    Love isnt a superstar Beibs..

    Comes with the territory.. look at Rose last night.. team came off a ugly loss and he said it BEFORE and after the game that he wasnt going to have it another night..

    Usually if your team is in a rut you see a superstar come out and take the next game PERSONALLY.. Shit even Lebron does it and everyone knows which Wizard of Oz character he is..

    No reason a team with Amare, Chandler, Fields, Douglas and Jeffries should be under .500 in the East when they got a BONAFIDE STAR in Melo.. NO REASON

    Wheres the leader putting it all out on the line??? you can jack if you want but wheres the intensity??? wheres the fire up your team shit??? hes out there playing the same damn near every game it looks like..

    You could say the problem with Knicks is all leadership.. Everyone knows what D’Antoni about and Amare was fillin that role nicely until management told him to take a back seat, now he dont even give a shit..

    Its ugly out there lol

  • LakeShow84

    Id also like to point out i dont think Love is QUITE up there with the Superstars because he hasnt neccessarily proved it yet (playoffs) but if anyone is close its him..

    Hes shown up for every game ive watched him in..

  • control

    FYI

    Minny is 10-12 in a very tough West. new york is 8-14 in a very easy East…new york were hyped to be contenders at beginning of the year because of their “best front line in the league” and now they might not make playoffs. Minny wasn’t projected to get even 10 wins the entire year, they have a rookie point guard, and their “2nd best guy (according to reports at beg of season)” has been injured, and is insane otherwise. I (and a lot of other people) think they have completely exceeded expectations, and nearly everyone would agree Love is a huge part of that. What is so hard to understand about that or what about that is debatable?

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    @heckler
    The fans should be able to vote, but give them a percentage of the total vote. The fan voting shouldn’t count as 100%. I’ve been arguing that the fans’ top 3 at each position should be assigned a number of votes…
    Explanation:
    The leading vote-getter at each position gets 3 votes, the 2nd player get 2 votes, and the 3rd place guy gets 1 vote. Let the coaches vote, and add the assigned fan votes to the coaches total.
    That way if Melo doesn’t get many coach votes, since he was #2 in this year’s voting, he would add 2 additional votes to the coaches total and might not start this year.
    IMO, injured players should be playing… period. VC missed all but 4 games one year and was voted as a starter. Fuckin fans. It’s unlikely the coaches would have voted for him at all. My system significantly reduces the odds of that happening again, and still allows the fans to be involved. I’m not saying my way is the answer, but there are better ways to deal with the fan voting. Someone within the NBA head office needs to think outside of the box.

    @beib
    Bcuz Melo IS playing like shit. He’s barely shooting 40%. He deserves to be starting as much as Bargnani deserves to be starting. Bargnani improves his team. Melo doesn’t.
    And feel free to compare stats.

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    “”I’ll trade this 50 for a W. Anyone, anyone?””
    Was that tweeted before or after he kept one foot out the door??

  • EN FUEGO

    How about Melo trading his All-Star spot for a W? Hah! That’ll be the day.

    And shit. Knicks are 8-14 and Wolves are 10-12. NY is 10th in the east and 14th if they were west. Minny is 11th west and 8th if they were east and are in a tougher division.

    Winning?! Playing like shit?! Learn to separate biased homo pride from reality.

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    I just caught a typo in #51…
    “IMO, injured players should NOT by playing….”
    my bad

  • LakeShow84

    And BTW if the Lakers sign JR Smith..

    Shit i cant go anywhere else i think ill just curl into a ball and cry for a while..

  • JDish

    Watz up with that Dime.
    That second part of the title for Smack today I actually thought you meant Timofey Mozgov caught an oop from Dre and smashed it on Griffin’s or DeAndre’s head … but 11 points … ??? not what I expected. I guess thats what kind of scoring machine TM is right.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    so shooting 40 percent is all that’s needed to justify someone is playing like shit? wow. check his other numbers. well rounded baller. nuff said.

    and has amare played like amare? stephen a smithe even went off on amare. melo is the only knick playing up to expectations. the only one. you mentioned hared jeferries as a reason the knicks should be over .500 ? lol has t.douglas done anything this season? lol fields is just now catching fire. i can’t believe you guys putting all the blame on melo. he’s been the most consistent player. one game with 1 point and that’t the first time anyone on this site actually mocked melo’s boxscore. the first time and only time. melo has been a stud all year. bad shooting percentage, but because no one else is scoring on the knicks ! the defense can just focus on him all day. and what, he still averaging over 24 a night? that’s stud material.

  • JDish

    Sad news from the 2012 all-star balloting selection for the starters. Kevin Love is no where to be found. So a guy that is scoring 25+ and rebounding like a mad man didn’t make the starters. If he don’t get chosen as a sub it would probably go down as the worst snub I’ve heard of in awhile.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    mad typos lol

  • LakeShow84

    Its about having what you need to succeed Beibs..

    Hes got all the weapons he needs.. he aint doin nothin with them.. He should be out there PISSED when someone misses a rotation.. when someone breaks off the play..

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    it’s okay…love was selected last season, on a worse winning team….he will be selected.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i’m not trying to make excuses for melo…i’m just saying it isn’t a polished team he is on

  • Big Island

    I would take Love over Melo quickly. I’d take Love’s 25 and 14 on 45% over Melo’s 24, 4 and 6 on 40% shooting. Hell, Love is hitting 3’s at the same percentage as Melo is shooting overall. Plus he can pass. I would still take Melo if I needed one basket over just about anyone in the league though.

    And even me, the biggest Dirk nut hugger ever, would be a little sad if he makes the all-star team. He just hasn’t played like it so far. I have a hunch he might make it, but it would be kinda bullcrap.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    lakeshow…i hope those would be tears of joy? in regards to jr

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    except melo could probably play love’s position. can love play melo’s position? those two are good. but melo is versatile. i guarantee there are no thoughts of love starting on the olympic team. i can bet the coaching staff is considering starting carmelo though.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    lmao at JAY’s #14…forgot to mention that.

  • reef

    5 best players in the NBA balling right now? Lebron, Rose, Durant, Kobe and who would be the fifth?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P9RJbLV98fI Showtime

    I’m pretty sure Bynum & Gasol would seriously consider retiring if we went after JR Smith so hopefully Jim/Mitch aren’t that dumb

  • LakeShow84

    Tears of depression lol

    Dude got the bball IQ of a cumqwat..

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i seriously think all the melo hate stems from him requesting his way outta denver. if durant, one day, asks to be traded to the magic, guys will start overly criticizing him too. durant doesn’t pass the rock that much. there hasn’t been a season where he’s averaged more assists than turnovers. just ridiculous. and if he played with a teammate who didn’t play up to par, guys would ignore that aspect and just throw stones at durant. guess that comes with being the best player on your team. notice how durant’s ppg has dropped with that swing-thru foul rule has been in affect? interesting. guarantee, if westbrook played below par like amare is in ny, durant would be focused on that much more and his shooting percentage would be down.

  • reef

    Yeah I agree that Dirk shouldn’t be an all star. He’s playing horribly, came into the season out of shape

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    lakeshow nooooooo! that’s something that can be worked on. it all takes discipline. you can’t find skill like his on the free agent market everyday.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    hold up..didn’t you want gilbert? i really don’t remember.

  • EN FUEGO

    This HOMO FOR MELO BS is making me puke

  • Mt. Pleasant

    @ Control

    I can’t believe I put myself in a position where I’m defending Vinnie who is an idiot.

    But I think the starters looked gassed. He pulled them with under 2 minutes in the third and the starters had scored like 5 points in 5 minutes and the lead had grown to 17. He didn’t give the game away at that point, it was over. Everybody was bent over with their hands on their shorts.

    I think you pull them hoping the bench would be fresher and if they cut the lead you can come back with the starters after a break for the last 9 minutes.

    LA played in Denver, home against OKC the next day. Had a day off, played in Utah and then home the next day against Denver. Even if you’re a young athletic team you’re gonna be gassed by the 4th against a fresher deeper running all game Denver.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    how about guys talk about who they THINK WILL WIN THE ALL STAR GAME. lol

    kobe and durant on the same squad!!! awesome. cp3 throwing lobs to everyone!!

    on the other said, you have a deadly rose, wade and lebron tandem. damn. i call 5 dunks in the first quarter for lebron!

    my all star mvp winner? : blake griffin..

    actually…i have no clue at the moment who’d get the award. dwight’s city…but i think if a gun was pointed at me…i’d pick durant. he nearly got it last year.

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    Melo can’t play Love’s position. Holy smokes beib… Stop the madness.

  • JDish

    … forget lob city … it’s gonna be lob country for CP3 at this all-star run

  • Bilal

    Melo vs Love really???

    @Showtime, i hope they dont sign JR either, but Jim is that dumb. I feel bad for the Lakers because Jim Buss will ruin you guys.

    If Blake wins allstar mvp i will quit regular season nba and skip to the playoffs. he didnt deserve his dunk contest (angry raps fan still reel that derozen got cheated here)

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i don’t mean full time, full blown pf. it is NOT madness to put melo at the 4. not at all. it is madness to restrict someone of melo’s caliber to only the 3 when he has the capabilities to operate in the post. i am not wrong for saying it. you are wrong for saying it is madness.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    yea bilal…i would say durant would try to get it.

    but knowing westbrook, he’ll try to show everyone he is the best player in the game.

  • Big Island

    JDish – It might be lob world for all we know.

    So my GF just called me to say there was a pitcher working out while she was doing her kickboxing training. She tells me about training, then how this guy was chucking balls at a target mat thing. Then she says “you would like him, he looks like Dirk”. WHAT THE HELL WOMAN!!! YOU THINK I JUST GO AROUND WANTING TO wait, what’s his name? You know your love affair with a player has gone too far when your own girlfriend, who you own a house with, who wouldn’t know a basketball if it hit her in the head because she’s Canadian and likes hockey and fighting, tells you that you would like a MLB baseball pitcher because he looks like Dirk. Mother of God…

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz
  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i wonder if coaches around the league respect how kyrie irving has played so far and what he’s done for the cavs that he’ll get in the all star game in his REAL rookie season…sorry blake.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    Carmelo can and has played power forward. He did it in Denver when the Nuggets used a small lineup (Nene at center, Melo at PF, Smith/Afflalo on the wings, Chauncey at PG) and he did it often with Team USA. Dude is like 6-7 or 6-8, he ain’t skinny, and he thrives as a scorer when playing physical. So why couldn’t he play PF regularly?

    I know it’s fashionable to bash Melo, the Knicks and Beiber right now, but people need to settle down. Melo is still putting up Melo numbers, and it’s not like he’s the reason the Knicks are bad. Have you seen the cast surrounding he and Amar’e? Have you seen the way this team plays defense?

    People want NBA superstars to do everything on the court, but you gotta be realistic. I don’t blame Melo solely for NY’s defense because Melo is not a defender. He’s a scorer, a shooter, a clutch performer and a playmaker (as in he makes plays, not saying he’s a great passer). A good coach, like George Karl, would know how to take advantage of those strengths while “hiding” those weaknesses.

  • http://www.dimemag.com Austin Burton

    …So yeah: Melo should be an All-Star, he’s still better than Kevin Love, and who really cares whether he’s an All-Star starter or a backup? Do the lineups REALLY matter once the game tips off?

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    AUSTIN BURTON PREACHING THE GOOD WORD !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • EN FUEGO

    Love may not play SF like Melo, but he can play center unlike Melo and play it as good as if not better than Melo plays PF.

    Oh damn. HAHA. Trying to work around the puke here. Don’t say he’s also MVP worthy too???!!! Based on what his game has come only pls. Cast, good/bad coaches aside.

  • http://www.zwani.com/graphics/funny_pictures/images/88funny-pictures128.jpg JAY

    Oh, i see what you’re saying. I thought you meant Melo could be a PF. That’s a bit different than what you meant. Regardless, Love is a 2 position player also. So who cares if Melo can play the 4.

    @AB
    A team with 2 all world talents should not be that bad. I’m not looking at the supporting cast because there’s 2 horses on that roster. I’m pointing the finger at those dudes and D’Antoni. They’ll get the praise if/when they win, and they should get the blame for when things aren’t going right. Melo wanted to be there.

    And I think you better check the IPs again. Looks like beiber is posting comment under your name. Lol. Juss playin.

    TGIF bitches.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    the raptor could become one of the young, exciting teams with potential in an instant if they nab wilson chandler from denver, bring over jonas valanciunas, draft kentucky star anthony davis, keep derozen long term, and trade whoever they can for a nice pg, whether that means sending out bargnani/j.bayless/ed davis for a deron williams?

    that’d be a great team to watch.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    but bargnani and brook lopez on the same team means no rebounds lol. but that front line would be crazy to stop for any defense. the nets should do it…they’d be getting ed davis in the deal anyway..and a young pg in bayless.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    :D good one jay @ the IP thing.

  • Mt. Pleasant

    Melo Amare and Chandler should be better regardless of cast.

    Melo’s PPG and shooting percentages are down this year and he needs to score more on this team.

    They were playing way better prior to trading for him, he is the reason their roster is gutted and he is paid franchise player money.

    Yeah, I don’t get why people blame him either.

  • EN FUEGO

    Gotta be shittin’. Now its homo with Toronto? HAHAHA
    Transgender for Chandler, lesbian for DeRozan and Jonas in your ass?

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    the mvp winner of the 2012 all star game get this thick chick waiting for them at their hotel door. golllly

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGVTNaq-oqE&feature=player_embedded

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    remember when i pointed out how en fuego’s jokes are all almost always homo erotic or about being retarded?

    exhibit A: COMMENT 94

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    the lakers can have ramon sessions handed to them on a platter if they offer one of their 2 first round picks to cleveland. but la is waiting to see what happens with dwight howard before making a move. that just means i don’t expect any pg upgrades until after the all star game. otis smith is said to be waiting til after the game is over..cuz the game is in orlando. i don’t really see the big deal in that. so what the game’s in orlando. they don’t want dwight coming back to that city and having a good game or something? it’s just an all star game. anyway, i’m just happy the lakers have two first round picks in this deep draft.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i think bynum, now having “allstar starter” on his resume, has increased his trade intrigue for the magic.

  • EN FUEGO

    remember when nobody remembers what barbie newz ever says? but she keeps posting and posting over and over with links and pathetic reasoning?

    no need for exhibit cornballs. its pretty much splattered around the Dime archives like a pile of shit hitting a fan the size of the millennium wheel.

    click on any smack for the past 4 months, at least. just follow the meth tracks hahahaha

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    who taught you how to be funny en fuego? pee wee herman?

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    this is how deep the nuggets are: if kenneth faried were on the knicks, he’d average at least 20 minutes. he gets like no burn on the nuggets.

  • EN FUEGO

    wish i could take credit. but its all you barbie newz. you do it to yourself. always did. always will.

  • EN FUEGO

    marcus banks could play 25 minutes with the knicks, easy.

  • Three Stacks

    Pee Wee Herman was hilarious once upon a time. If you grew up in the 80s and 90s like it seems so many commenters here have, PeeWee Herman was the shiiiznit. Even Laurence Fishburne put on a Woody costume and played a black cowboy on that show, and Morpheus does not fuck around.

    Melo is gonna be an all-star based on his reputation, and because the NBA needs his name recognition to be part of the festivities. Whether or not he deserves is a whole nother story.

    Based on his numbers, of course he deserves to be there. But based on the impact he has on his team, I wouldn’t vote for him. Every time Melo gets the ball, the entire offense stops. I would understand if they were a pound-the-air-out-the-ball halfcourt defensive team, but they suck at that too. The Knicks do nothing well. His are the emptiest 24, 6, 4 in the league, by far.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    en fuego…lol seriously dude…hop off me.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    3stacks…i hear u, but get this. no team in the modern era has won a game getting a total of just 24 points (melo’s average). my point is, there needs to be some consistent help around melo. there is help (amare, fields(?)). but the keyword i used was consistent. amare had his 1st big game of the season yesterday. his first. now if amare played like how he did yesterday along with the way melo has been playing this year, i don’t think it’s a stretch to assume they would have beat those teams they had questionable losses to. minus 5 of their bogus losses and replace them in the win column, and you have a “great” team and no talk of blowing up the knicks. i would rather hear this criticism if amare had been playing like amare all year, not one game, leaving melo on a ny island. then it would be fair, cuz then both players would have played to their potential. but at this point, amare has not played like STAT. so we can’t fully judge this group until amare plays with some consistency. yesterday was a good sampling.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    haha mike wilbon just introduced the knicks celtics game as two playoff teams off to slow starts.

    i remember i had to explain the definition of “playoff team” to someone.

    happy an experienced journalist agrees with me.

  • EN FUEGO

    Wasn’t this Peewee dude a sex offender at one time?

    Sure, beibs, as soon as you hop off the meth.

    Damn, AB. Now we’re never gonna hear the end of it. Giving BN blank ammo like that. HAHA

  • UncheckedAggression

    Blake Griffin doesn’t deserve to be on the All Star team, much less start. I’ve watched most of their games, and he gets outplayed by many PFs. His numbers are the emptiest numbers of any player I’ve seen this year. Aldridge is so much better than this guy that it isn’t even funny.

    Love will make the team, and deserves to start. Unlike Griffin, Love OUTPLAYS every PF he goes up against. And is simply the most unique big man in the NBA.

  • UncheckedAggression

    And as I said before, I am really psyched at the idea of the Lakers trying out JR Smith. A disaster waiting to happen. PLEASE DO IT!

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    just to play devil’s advocate

    how can you say griffin doesn’t deserve to be on the all star team if love does?

    one of the more important big man stats is blocks. at least grifin is getting at least one of those a night.

    you talk about inflated stats? how many of love’s rebounds come off tapping his missing back up to the rim?

    you have a big man in love, who really doesn’t try to evolve his post game. you have him taking 4 threes a game. on the other end, you have griffin who is at least developing some sort of post game. and his assists number reflect his ability to share the ball and pass out the post. griffin is the better passer overall anyway.

    also, griffin takes a lot more smarter shots. love is feeling his jumper so much that he is often finds himself taking excessive 3s. also, the fact he misses a handful of his layup around the rim (hence his high offensive rebounds) his field goal percentage is in the mid 40s, griffin’s fg% is in around the mid 50s.

    BOTH players are good. love has his advantages over blake in that he is the superior shooter, at the line and from outside. but blake griffin is good in his own right. how could you fathom the idea that griffin doesn’t deserve to be an all star?

  • UncheckedAggression

    If someone provided accurate insight, I would respond to that person. Much of what you said was complete nonsense, as usual.

    Watch games. If you already are, then learn about basketball. Then watch games.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    that had to be the most deflating loss of the knicks this season.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    hahahahahhaha at unchecked smart rebuttal. u sound so intelligent

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    if the giants win, i’ll feel better.

  • http://www.bettlejuiceXs3.com Chicagorilla

    @Unchecked

    I don’t see why you would think Blake Griffin isn’t worthy of a all-star spot. Don’t look at just the dunks, the guy can play ball. His IQ is getting better every game. Blake’s post game is still raw, but his face up game is ill. He rebounds like his life depends on it and he plays Balls to the Wall like he’s the 12th man trying to crack the line up. I know he gets a ton of hype because of where he plays and the dunks and all that. But man don’t let that shyt make your judgment on him.

  • http://datpiff.com beiber newz

    i guess anyone would fill the “other than beiber requirement” even if it weak. so….there you go. i feel like i wasted my time defending why blake should be in the all star game. anyone who thinks blake is not an all star in the nba needs to take a weapon of their choice and inflict damage to their life.